Top 25 Consulting Firms

[Tokugawa]

Here are top 25 consulting firms (according to http://www.vault.com/nr/consulting_rankings/consulting_rankings.jsp?consulting2005=2&ch_id=252 ).

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2005RANK / FIRM / SCORE / 2004RANK / HEADQUARTERS
1 McKinsey & Company 8.353 1 New York, NY
2 Boston Consulting Group 7.960 2 Boston, MA
3 Bain & Company 7.717 3 Boston, MA
4 Booz Allen Hamilton 6.670 4 McLean, VA
5 Gartner 6.381 7 Stamford, CT
6 Monitor Group 6.327 5 Cambridge, MA
7 Mercer Management Consulting 6.144 6 New York, NY
8 Deloitte 5.955 11 New York, NY
9 Mercer Oliver Wyman 5.811 9 New York, NY
10 Mercer Human Resource Consulting 5.728 13 New York, NY
11 A.T. Kearney 5.690 8 Chicago, IL
12 IBM BCS 5.673 16 Somers, NY
13 Accenture 5.513 12 New York, NY
14 Towers Perrin 5.468 19 Stamford, CT
15 Roland Berger Strategy Consultants 5.447 10 Munich, Germany
16 The Gallup Organization 5.380 NR Washington, DC
17 Parthenon Group, The 5.327 15 Boston, MA
18 Marakon Associates 5.280 14 New York, NY
19 BearingPoint 5.241 20 McLean, VA
20 L.E.K. Consulting 5.214 17 Boston, MA
21 Capgemini 5.173 18 New York, NY
22 Hewitt Associates 5.031 23 Lincolnshire, IL
23 Cambridge Associates 5.010 NR Boston, MA
24 Watson Wyatt Worldwide 4.770 30 Washington, DC
25 Stern Stewart 4.707 24 New York, NY
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The full list consists of 50 firms. I personally admire McKinsey and Roland Berger. Anyone aiming/working at these firms?:D

Among Investment/Commercial Banking institutions, the leader was, unsurprisingly, Goldman Sachs, followed by Blackstone Group and Morgan Stanley.:cool:

[Masud]

McKinsey. Their Mission is so concentrated. Very Individual. You can go management or you can go finance, audit, accounting in McKinsey
But, before that I have to get my associate's in Accounting and Bachelor's in Finance.

Ernst & Young is prestigious, indeed.

AT

[silbermond]

My choices or the famous ones in Germany
1 McKinsey & Company 8.353 1 New York, NY
2 Boston Consulting Group 7.960 2 Boston, MA
3 Bain & Company 7.717 3 Boston, MA
4 Booz Allen Hamilton 6.670 4 McLean, VA
....
7 Mercer Management Consulting 6.144 6 New York, NY

when it comes to investment banking in Germany then
Deutsche Bank, DRKW, JP Morgan, BNP Paribas, Societe Generale, UBS and some swiss firms which i can not remember now are the ones which I would love to work for.

In my opinion, in some extent MorganStanley, GoldmanSachs,MLynch are not considered as famous as they are in other regions of the world.

[Amiri Turkiston]

man bitta juda tez rivojlanvotgan kompaniyalardan birini yahshi bilaman

bu: UBI Consulting LLC
hozirda butun O'rta O'siyo Mamlakatlarida ishlashvotti

[Martingale]

I am planning to consider, McKinsey because it is mostly LLC, or companies in that nature.
But, before that I have to get my associate's in Accounting and Bachelor's in Finance.

Ernst & Young is prestigious, indeed.

AT

Why is it important to you for a company to be LLC? why not LLP? Like Ernie & Young or Toilette & Douche:lol: ?

p.s. Tokugawa, how is transition going?

[Amiri Turkiston]

Why is it important to you for a company to be LLC? why not LLP? Like Ernie & Young or Toilette & Douche:lol: ?


atak: LLP va LLC ning orasida farq yo'q

- LLP - Limited Lianility Partnership
- LLC - Limited Lianility Company

unda ham bunda ham Partnerlar buladi
yuridicheskiy ham farqi yo'q

prosto kindir kompaniyasini unaqa kimdir esa bunaqa deb nompaydi

mana nimaga dir of-shor kompaniyalarning ko'pi LLC deyishadi

kattaroq finansoviy sohada ishlaydiganlar esa LLP solidniyroq deb o'ylashadi

[Martingale]

atak: LLP va LLC ning orasida farq yo'q

- LLP - Limited Lianility Partnership
- LLC - Limited Lianility Company

unda ham bunda ham Partnerlar buladi
yuridicheskiy ham farqi yo'q

prosto kindir kompaniyasini unaqa kimdir esa bunaqa deb nompaydi

mana nimaga dir of-shor kompaniyalarning ko'pi LLC deyishadi

kattaroq finansoviy sohada ishlaydiganlar esa LLP solidniyroq deb o'ylashadi

Bilmadim, qattadir uqib qogandim, manimcha Enron i world.com tufayli most LLC(limited liability company) switched to LLP(limited liability partnership). Especially it concerns accounting firms. Why? because the company should not be responsible for wrongdoings of partners anymore. (Referring to those cases)
E&Y is LLP, if not mistaken.
This Sarbanes Oxley thing had great impact by separating consulting from accounting or vice versa.

[Tokugawa]

Why is it important to you for a company to be LLC? why not LLP? Like Ernie & Young or Toilette & Douche:lol: ?

p.s. Tokugawa, how is transition going?

Laziz, thanks for asking, but not that successful so far. DB qo'ldan ketdi.:(

[Amiri Turkiston]

Bilmadim, qattadir uqib qogandim, manimcha Enron i world.com tufayli most LLC(limited liability company) switched to LLP(limited liability partnership). Especially it concerns accounting firms. Why? because the company should not be responsible for wrongdoings of partners anymore. (Referring to those cases)
E&Y is LLP, if not mistaken.
This Sarbanes Oxley thing had great impact by separating consulting from accounting or vice versa.

hmmmm
aytgan keyslarizni qanaqadir tushunmadim

nimaga endi partner hato qilsa butun kompaniya javob bermasligi kerak????

non sence ku bu....partner bulganidan keyin ham obyazatelstvo ham pribil taqsimlanadi muljallangan miqdorda

agar partner hato qilsa, butun kompaniya backup bulib turishi kerak i naabarot
bulmasam maynavochilik bulib ketadi
o'ziz tushunasiz ku buyog'ini


atak bu ajralish yahshi buldi - endi konsultacia bergan tekshira olmaydi
endi hammasi logichniy

a oldin konsultaciya bergan firma tekshirib...o'zini hatosini konechno aytmas edi

[Martingale]

I dunno man, maybe we misunderstood each other. Maybe this helps a bit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LLP

Limited liability partnerships (LLP) are a form of business organization combining elements of partnerships and corporations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation). In the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States), each individual state (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State) has its own law governing their formation. In general, each partner in an LLP is fully liable for the debts of the partnership, but not for acts of professional negligence or malpractice committed by the other partners.

Laziz, thanks for asking, but not that successful so far. DB qo'ldan ketdi.
I think with such a great experience, including Toilette and Douche, you have a great chance at any other IB or consulting firms, so keep struggling! Good Luck!

[WASP]

hmmmm
aytgan keyslarizni qanaqadir tushunmadim

nimaga endi partner hato qilsa butun kompaniya javob bermasligi kerak????

non sence ku bu....partner bulganidan keyin ham obyazatelstvo ham pribil taqsimlanadi muljallangan miqdorda

agar partner hato qilsa, butun kompaniya backup bulib turishi kerak i naabarot
bulmasam maynavochilik bulib ketadi
o'ziz tushunasiz ku buyog'ini


atak bu ajralish yahshi buldi - endi konsultacia bergan tekshira olmaydi
endi hammasi logichniy

a oldin konsultaciya bergan firma tekshirib...o'zini hatosini konechno aytmas edi

LLPs are common in small service companies, where two or more professionals hold ownership. i.e. law firms, health services. Speaking of small law firms, each lawyer often have his/her own clients and individual cases (although sometimes they work in teams) for which they should be responsible for. So, if one partner (lawyer, in this case) screws up, the other partners are not held responsible. To the contrary, LLCs are small firms often with a sole proprietor.

[abcd]

Can anybody explain me why these firms are ranked in this way? Because I looked to the methodology and didn't like it. Recalling famous russian proverb which states vstrechayut po odezhke provojayut po umu I think that this list was compiled based on vstrechayut po odezhke but not based on provojayut po umu.

One more thing is when I was writing a paper I often refered to the predictions about today's economy made by famous and not so famous companies in the past. I noticed that the predictions made by not so famous companies on average were more accurate compare to the predictions made by famous companies. So I was surprised why is that so?

[Amiri Turkiston]

mana tassavvur qiling aaa:

PWC auditorlari qaysidir kompaniyani audit qilib qaysidir partner zaklyucheniya berdi

a zaklyucheniya notoog'ri bulib chiqdi

endi kim javobgar bu wrong zaklyucheniyaga...Partnermi? yo butun PWC mi?

javob hammaga ayon PWC.

[Amiri Turkiston]

manda bitta yaqinda voqea buldi

KPMG bir uzbek bankining otchetlarini audit qilibdi

yakuniy otchetda 1 000 000 000 o'rniga 100 000 000 deb yozib qo'yishibdi
i eto ne kto ne zametel (hatoni summasi 900 000 000) aytkanimni bilaman....eh heee rosa tipirchilashdi

[Masud]

I dunno man, maybe we misunderstood each other. Maybe this helps a bit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LLP

Limited liability partnerships (LLP) are a form of business organization combining elements of partnerships and corporations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation). In the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States), each individual state (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State) has its own law governing their formation. In general, each partner in an LLP is fully liable for the debts of the partnership, but not for acts of professional negligence or malpractice committed by the other partners.


I think with such a great experience, including Toilette and Douche, you have a great chance at any other IB or consulting firms, so keep struggling! Good Luck!

Back to the post I have posted earlier, it doesn't matter as long as it not a corporation. LLP is a partnership, that is what I meant.

P.S. you saying Toilette and Douche just cracks me up.I am sure you're just making fun of the name. (Deloitte & Touche:lol: )

[UdachnicK]

wht abt SKS Consulting ??? :D

[Martingale]

Here are top 25 consulting firms (according to http://www.vault.com/nr/consulting_rankings/consulting_rankings.jsp?consulting2005=2&ch_id=252 ).

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2005RANK / FIRM / SCORE / 2004RANK / HEADQUARTERS
...
19 BearingPoint 5.241 20 McLean, VA
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KMPG Consulting (a.k.a. BearingPoint) changed its name in october 2002 in order to dictance itself from the parent company KPMG LLP.

[Amiri Turkiston]

yana bitta qiziq narsa:

O'zbekistonda faqat:
- PWC
- Ernst & Y.
- Deloite & T.

bor holos

- KPMG
- sobiq Author A.

hammasi yopilib ketti va Rossiyadan boshqariladi


atak ishonaslami? biz Ernst & Y. ning auditing reportidan USD 1 M raznicani topkanmiz ...ushanchun ularga nisbatan qarashim o'zgargan

[WASP]

Amiri Turkiston,

Siz E&Y uhshagan firmlarni tekshirasizmi? Davlatga ishlisizmi? 1m raznica? Uzi qanaqa budget bilan ishliydi ular..?

WASP

[Amiri Turkiston]

Amiri Turkiston,

Siz E&Y uhshagan firmlarni tekshirasizmi? Davlatga ishlisizmi? 1m raznica? Uzi qanaqa budget bilan ishliydi ular..?

WASP

ularni budgeti jaa katta emas
bir shunaqa ish bo'lib qoluvdida ...

man nazarda tutkanim bu - ular bitta katta bankni tekshirishgan - ushanda ularning Finansoviy rezultatida USD 1 M o'zidan o'zi yoqolib qolgan

tag'in biz buni statemenlar ofialniy cenzuradan o'tkanidan keyin aniqlaganmiz

tasavvur qiling qanaqa pozor - katta auditing company uchun


bundan tashqari - E&Y ning ko'p klientlari juda opasniy / skolzskiy klientlar
ularga negative statement qilib bersez boshiz ketadi
ushanchun man bu kompaniyani hurmat qilmayman

[Amiri Turkiston]

qani endi O'zbekistonda ham bu soha rivonlansa

nimaga bu tema chekkada qolib ketti o'zi hech tushunmayabman

[Luganos]

qani endi O'zbekistonda ham bu soha rivonlansa

nimaga bu tema chekkada qolib ketti o'zi hech tushunmayabman
O'zbekistondayam boridi yahshigina Company.
Nomi Business Solutions, Office Hotel Uzbekistan da edi.
Web sahifasi www.biznessolutions.com (http://www.biznessolutions.com) edi.
Hozir qarasam yuq :lol:
Bizda tushunmidida bunaqa hizmatlarni... ancha bor hali...