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referee
12-02-2005, 03:56 AM
brothers and sisters,
If you know how to determine qibla in any city in the world with ordinary compass (or know the internet site) please help those, like myself, who travel but don't know how. If you have a leaflet or information on the compass degree position for major cities around the world that would be helpful too.
Jazakullah!
Uzbekxonim
12-02-2005, 04:03 AM
adashmasam qibla quyosh botadigan tarafta bo'ladi...:? yoki visa versamidi...
Royal
12-02-2005, 04:07 AM
As long as if You determind where about is NORTH
You may download Azan program from the www.islamicfinder.org would help to find the QIBLA with selection of cities around the world.
Alouddin
12-02-2005, 04:17 AM
adashmasam qibla quyosh botadigan tarafta bo'ladi...:? yoki visa versamidi... qibla biz (turkiston) uchun quyosh botish tarafida... altho with a minor inclination towards south. va qizil dengizning chap tarafidagilar uchun quyosh chiqar tomonda =)
a tak yaponlar uchun qayerda ekan?..
Ulug'bek
12-02-2005, 04:20 AM
adashmasam qibla quyosh botadigan tarafta bo'ladi...:? yoki visa versamidi...
Uzbekhonum, qiblah quyosh botadigan tomonda emas Makka (Saudi Arabia) shahridagi Ka'ba - qiblamizdir!:) (Undan sharqda bo'lsangiz qiblangiz g'arbda va aksincha va hokazo vahokazo)
O'zbekistonda, Siz aytgandek qibla deyarli quysoh botish (undan biroz chapda) tomonda bo'ladi, Siz o'sha taasurotlaringizni aytayapsiz, adashmasam.
Brother Referee,
Check the web-site below out, I hope it will help you, although didn't try it, (I have a qiblah compass that came with info-sheet that contains how to determine qiblah in different countries, i take it with me all the time in my travels)
http://www.starlight.demon.co.uk/qibla/
Royal
12-02-2005, 04:20 AM
Shimolie Amerikada (East Coastda) Shimoldan 12mibutda simoli-sharqda boladi
Yani quyosh chiqishi tarafidan 12daraja sharq tamonga
referee
12-02-2005, 04:25 AM
Brother Referee,
Check the web-site below out, I hope it will help you, although didn't try it, (I have a qiblah compass that came with info-sheet that contains how to determine qiblah in different countries, i take it with me all the time in my travels)
http://www.starlight.demon.co.uk/qibla/
Baraka toping Ulugbek!
The link is dead but this sofrtware can be uploaded here:
http://www.islam-australia.com.au/salat/Download.htm
i have not used it yet but will tell you if it works...
BTW, can you scan that info-sheet from your qibla compass and post it here, or is it difficult?
referee
12-02-2005, 04:27 AM
Shimolie Amerikada (East Coastda) Shimoldan 12mibutda simoli-sharqda boladi
Yani quyosh chiqishi tarafidan 12daraja sharq tamonga
You see when you live in one place it's easy to find out the directions, but when you travel ot a different place for a short stay especially when the country is non-Muslim then it's hard to find this out unless you have a qibla compass. Mind you some qibla compasses may be inaccurate, as I was told...
Ulug'bek
12-02-2005, 04:29 AM
Baraka toping Ulugbek!
The link is dead but this sofrtware can be uploaded here:
http://www.islam-australia.com.au/salat/Download.htm
i have not used it yet but will tell you if it works...
BTW, can you scan that info-sheet from your qibla compass and post it here, or is it difficult?
Thanks brother, for the correction!
I hope I will try to do it (:) ) after the Jum'ah prayer and the launch, God willing!:)
Uzbekxonim
12-02-2005, 04:49 AM
Uzbekhonum, qiblah quyosh botadigan tomonda emas Makka (Saudi Arabia) shahridagi Ka'ba - qiblamizdir!:)
endi Ulug'bek-aka unday narsalarni bilaman...:cool: ja Islom bilimdoni bo'lmasam ham.... ;)
Alouddin
12-02-2005, 05:26 AM
Ulug'bek: http://www.starlight.DEMON[???].co.uk/qibla/
Amiri Turkiston
12-02-2005, 06:52 AM
wow
great
ja zo'r ish qilibsizlar
man bunaqa programma borligini bilmas edim daje
Juma' namozingiz qabul bulsin
Compas is not enough to determine Qibla.
You also need to know your location.
Knowing where your country located relatively to Qibla is sufficient to know approximately where is Qibla.
Delf.
Royal
12-02-2005, 07:47 AM
You see when you live in one place it's easy to find out the directions, but when you travel ot a different place for a short stay especially when the country is non-Muslim then it's hard to find this out unless you have a qibla compass. Mind you some qibla compasses may be inaccurate, as I was told...
Compass will show where North is, in Azan program by entering Your city/country location data You may find out where qibla is with indication of where is NORTH.
referee
12-02-2005, 07:48 AM
Compas is not enough to determine Qibla.
You also need to know your location.
Knowing where your country located relatively to Qibla is sufficient to know approximately where is Qibla.
Delf.
yes, compass on its own is not enough, hence this thread to clarify ways to determine city/country location and then determine qibla location with the compass. Only knowing your country location is not enough, you need compass too.
P.S. I think that compass inside buildings can sometimes perform inaccurately due to magnetic effect of the walls or equipment. I had several different results in the same room:shock:
referee
12-02-2005, 07:52 AM
Compass will show where North is, in Azan program by entering Your city/country location data You may find out where qibla is with indication of where is NORTH.
thanks Royal. In london, for instance, you identify north, then see the 140 scale on the compass, and that's where qibla is from london. But imagine if you go elsewhere for a week or more, how would you know what that degree should be? There are softwares for this, as we found out today. And inshallah, Ulugbek, or someone else will now post here s list of major cities/countries location data.
Ulug'bek
12-02-2005, 08:06 AM
BTW, can you scan that info-sheet from your qibla compass and post it here, or is it difficult?
Sorry brother, I was wrong, I can't help with that info sheet, it could only work with my japan made qiblah compass (It was given to me as a present by a turkish brother) or the like, I didn't notice that before, now taking the compass itself on my hand (although didn't find the consize info-booklet yet :) ) unless you buy the similar type compass. It says for example to determine what is direction of qiblah in UK make the red hand on 26, then there is another pictured line inside the compass telling 'this is direction of the qiblah', which doesn't help you with ordinary compass!:(
ps. I cheked the software, it is working well (although very simple), only negative thing there is that the map is very small, but still gives you an aprroximate direction!
Ïóøêàðåâà
12-02-2005, 08:09 AM
My friend's qaynana told us that we should look where is the sunset and then turn 45 degrees to the right to determine Qibla taraf.
I hope that was right.
Samimiy
12-02-2005, 08:34 AM
Qiblani topish uchun kompasdan tashqari yana bir yul bor: qibla va namoz vaqtlarini kursatuvchi soat :)
http://www.alasr.com/details.html
Sayt unchalik zur ishlamayptiku, lekin harholda chidasa buladi. Mana shu soat uzimda bor, 3 yillardan beri ishlataman, juda foydali. Namoz vaqtlari, hijriy kalendar, qiblani aniqlaydi. Budilnigi ham bor. Qiblani quyoshga, oyga yoki shimolga qarab aniqlasa buladi. Lekin 10 graduslargacha adashishi mumkin, olsangizlar kurasizlar. Soat qibla va namoz vaqtlarini turgan joyingizga qarab hisoblaydi. Eng qulay tomoni ham shu- ayniqsa tez-tez sayohat qilib turuvchilar uchun juda foydali. Faqat shaharni uzgartirasiz, qolgani avtomat :) Dunyodagi yirik shaharlarning hammasi ichida bor. Lekin hohlagan joyingizni meridian-parallellariga qarab kiritishingiz mumkin.
Ishqilib hammaga tavsiya qilaman. Faqat saal qimmatlik qilishi mumkin :)
Samimiy
12-02-2005, 08:36 AM
My friend's qaynana told us that we should look where is the sunset and then turn 45 degrees to the right to determine Qibla taraf.
I hope that was right.
Whether or not your friend's mother in law is right depends on where you are. You should go to one of websites given above (for example www.islamicfinder.org (http://www.islamicfinder.org)) to make sure.
For example, this is the qibla direction from where I am:
http://www.islamicfinder.org/prayerDetail.php?zipcode=16801&country=usa&lang=
Royal
12-02-2005, 08:43 AM
thanks Royal. In london, for instance, you identify north, then see the 140 scale on the compass, and that's where qibla is from london. But imagine if you go elsewhere for a week or more, how would you know what that degree should be? There are softwares for this, as we found out today. And inshallah, Ulugbek, or someone else will now post here s list of major cities/countries location data.
Azan software allready installed data of the 6MLN place around the world, much easier - as long as You find where is NORTH with a compass.
Royal
12-02-2005, 08:49 AM
thanks Royal. In london, for instance, you identify north, then see the 140 scale on the compass, and that's where qibla is from london. But imagine if you go elsewhere for a week or more, how would you know what that degree should be? There are softwares for this, as we found out today. And inshallah, Ulugbek, or someone else will now post here s list of major cities/countries location data.
London according the Azan software - QIBLA location is - North - South/East 53degree - if the by watch - 12 as NORTH, by minutes 23minut should be.
referee
12-02-2005, 09:00 AM
Whether or not your friend's mother in law is right depends on where you are. You should go to one of websites given above (for example www.islamicfinder.org (http://www.islamicfinder.org)) to make sure.
For example, this is the qibla direction from where I am:
http://www.islamicfinder.org/prayerDetail.php?zipcode=16801&country=usa&lang=
For countries other than USA, please check out here:
http://www.islamicfinder.org/world.php?home=
Just choose the country and it will show the direction on your compass and timetable for prayer... Just print out, pray and relax:D
Royal
12-17-2005, 12:12 PM
Assalomu alaykom
mana buni korib qoldim, balkim qidirgan zarill bolganlarga yordam berar, hudo hohlasa:
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Samimiy
01-22-2007, 11:27 AM
Compas is not enough to determine Qibla.
You also need to know your location.
Knowing where your country located relatively to Qibla is sufficient to know approximately where is Qibla.
Delf.
Here is a a link which helps you to find the direction of the qibla thru Google maps.
http://www.qiblalocator.com/
This is a very nice tool which helps you visualize the general direction of the qibla anywhere in your city. The program does not work for every city in the world, though. Just enter your street adress (or simple the city) and a red line appears extends from your location in the direction of qibla.
ville
01-22-2007, 07:18 PM
Darvoqe, qibla haqida:
o'zi nega ka'ba (kub) joylashgan tarafga ibodat qilasizlar? Nega Allohga emas? Butparastlik anqiyapti...
Tokugawa
01-23-2007, 01:55 AM
Some trivia. To the East of Hawaii Islands, qibla would be exactly to the NORTH. Why?
Here is a a link which helps you to find the direction of the qibla thru Google maps.
http://www.qiblalocator.com/
This is a very nice tool which helps you visualize the general direction of the qibla anywhere in your city. The program does not work for every city in the world, though. Just enter your street adress (or simple the city) and a red line appears extends from your location in the direction of qibla.
Samimiy
01-23-2007, 10:04 AM
Some trivia. To the East of Hawaii Islands, qibla would be exactly to the NORTH. Why?
Because that's the shortest distance to Mecca?
PS. it's not "exactly to the north". it's 359.37 degrees, not 360.0 :)
Tokugawa
01-23-2007, 09:34 PM
Because that's the shortest distance to Mecca?
PS. it's not "exactly to the north". it's 359.37 degrees, not 360.0 :)
I do not know the explanation. May be it is suggesting the fastest and cheapest "air route" :) . Almost the same situation for Tokyo. Looking on the world map you think that, from Tokyo, Qibla direction woul fall within South-West sector, but no. Qibla direction from Tokyo (according to many many sources) is somewhat like to the North West.
uzmarvel
07-13-2007, 08:17 AM
Yaponlar uchun ham g'arb tomonda bo'ladi albatta
:)
uzmarvel
erkak#1
07-13-2007, 09:14 AM
- Sahro kabi ovloq joyda kishi qiblani bilolmay qolsa, so’ramoqqa odam topolmasa, namozni qaysi tarafga qarab o’qiydi?
- Kishi qalbi qaysi tarafga qibla ekanini anglab moyillik bildirsa, o’sha tarafga qarab namoz o’qisa bo’ladi.
- Agar kechasi bo’lsa, atrofda hech bir narsa ko’rinmasa, qanday aniqlaydi?
- Agar bulut bo’lmasa, Oltin qoziq yulduzini topib, o’shandan aniqlaydi. Oltin qoziq yulduzi doim quyosh yuradigan tarafga muqobil va qarshi bo’lib, shimol tarafda turadi. Oftob yurar tarafni topgandan so’ngra chog’lab qibla tarafni bilsa bo’ladi.
- Shunday aniqlab, bir tarafni qibla e’tiqod qilib namoz o’qishga kirishsa, namozni tamom qilmasdan biror alomat tufayli qiblaning boshqa tarafda ekanini anglab qolsa, nima qilish kerak?
- Namoz o’qib turgan holda o’sha tarafga aylanib ibodatini ado etishi lozim.
- Bir necha kishi qiblani topolmay, har kim o’zicha bir tarafni qibla deb, hamma bir tarafga qarab ibodat qilsa, nima bo’ladi?
- Har kim o’zi moyil bo’lgan tarafga yolg’iz-yolg’iz holda ibodat qiladi.
source: http://www.ziyouz.com
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