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Uzb_futboli
12-07-2005, 09:58 PM
Inshallah, yaqinda hajj boshlanadi.
Bilsangiz kerak, 1988 yildan beri Saudi Arabistoni dunyoning har bir mamlakati uchun "Hajj quota" tizimini joriy qilgan. Man internetdan qidirib, qaysi mamlakat uchun bu yil qanaqa quota berilganini topdim.
Hozircha yig'ilgani shu.
Xudo xohlasa, bu yil jami 1.8 million odam haj qilishi kutilmoqda, shunlardan 1.3 millioni chet olkalardan bo'ladi.
Jumladan
Rossia – 13000
Ozarbayjon – 2800
Qirg'iziston - 4500
Bahrain – 12000
Turkiya - 70000
Pokistan – 150000
Indonezia - 205000
Nigeria – 60000
Hindiston - 147,000
JAR – 7000
Qatar – 2950
Bangladesh – 54000
Turkmaniston – 188
Uganda - 1100
Eron – 97000
Xitoy – 6900
Malayziya – 26000
Bruney – 200
Afg'oniston – 25000
UK – 50000
Hozircha topganim shu. Yozilishicha, quota mamlakat aholisga qarab belgilanar ekan (ya'ni har bir 100000 fuqaroga 1 orin).
O'zbekistondan rasmiy raqam topganim yo'q, lekin adashmasam o'tgan yili 4000 odam borgan edi hajga.
Amiri Turkiston
12-07-2005, 10:58 PM
ja 4000 bulmasa kerak
bizani aholimiz Kyrgyzlarnikida ancha ko'proq ku
Shokirbek
12-07-2005, 11:19 PM
ja 4000 bulmasa kerak
bizani aholimiz Kyrgyzlarnikida ancha ko'proq ku
Menimcha o'zbeklar talab qilsa ancha o'rin olsa bo'ladi.
Turkiyaga 70 000 o'rin berilganiga qaraganda 1 000 kishiga bir o'rin bo'lsa kerak, O'zbekiston aholisini 25 000 000 desak (shunchamidi) ularga 25 000 o'rin berilishi kerak, lekin bunga o'zbek hukumatining hajga boruvchilarga qo'yayotgan shartlari, aholining kambag'alligi (Bangladeshdan 54 000 kelayapti ekan ) to'siq shekilli.
Alouddin
12-07-2005, 11:21 PM
kg oldinda ekanmi? :cool: hamdulillah
Gareeb
12-08-2005, 04:26 AM
UKga qoyil.O'zi nari borsa ikki milliyon musulmon bor.50 000 odam Hajjga borar ekan.Zo'rku a?
tarafdor
12-08-2005, 04:48 AM
Bilmadim, balki adashayotgandirman...lekin nimagadir chet eldan Hajjga borish juda ham arzon tushadi..kamida 1,200$ga. Bizning hukumatmi yoki boshqa taraf katta foyda kuradi buyerdan. O'zi hukumat samoletlarida uchishini o'zi foyda emasmi davlatga?.. yana bilmadim, Ollohu Alam.
Gareeb
12-08-2005, 05:02 AM
Bilmadim, balki adashayotgandirman...lekin nimagadir chet eldan Hajjga borish juda ham arzon tushadi..kamida 1,200$ga. Bizning hukumatmi yoki boshqa taraf katta foyda kuradi buyerdan. O'zi hukumat samoletlarida uchishini o'zi foyda emasmi davlatga?.. yana bilmadim, Ollohu Alam.
Hojiboshilar xarajati ham oddiy hojilar bo'ynida bo'lgani uchun shundaydir.
Amiri Turkiston
12-08-2005, 12:49 PM
Qozog'istondan hajga borish 1.5 barovar arzon deb eshitdim
ushanchun mani bir tanishim ushattan ketuvdi
Cimkent
12-08-2005, 11:19 PM
Hajjga bormaganman lekin borishim uchun shartlar shakllanib kelayotganga o'xshaydi. Uzb.da ushbu safar hammasi bo'lib qanchaga tushadi? biladiganlar bormi?
tarafdor
12-09-2005, 12:19 AM
Hajjga bormaganman lekin borishim uchun shartlar shakllanib kelayotganga o'xshaydi. Uzb.da ushbu safar hammasi bo'lib qanchaga tushadi? biladiganlar bormi?
Eng kamida 2 million 500 ming sum. Yaxhsi variant bor, lekin agarda bilet qolgan bulsa. Toshkent-Istanbul-Jedda Turk Havo Yullarida tuda obratno bilet olsa eng kupida sizga 1000$ tushadi, keyin usha 15 kunni masjidda utkazish mumkin, agarda soglik joyida bulsa, u bu narsaga kupida 300$ ketadi. mani bir turk dustim Hajjni utgan yil 1400$ bilan ado etgandi.
Olloh hammamizni Hajj safariga muyassar aylasin.
Amiri Turkiston
12-09-2005, 03:04 AM
Eng kamida 2 million 500 ming sum. Yaxhsi variant bor, lekin agarda bilet qolgan bulsa. Toshkent-Istanbul-Jedda Turk Havo Yullarida tuda obratno bilet olsa eng kupida sizga 1000$ tushadi, keyin usha 15 kunni masjidda utkazish mumkin, agarda soglik joyida bulsa, u bu narsaga kupida 300$ ketadi. mani bir turk dustim Hajjni utgan yil 1400$ bilan ado etgandi.
Olloh hammamizni Hajj safariga muyassar aylasin.
wow 2 barovar arzon tushar ekanda
yahshi ettiz
Gareeb
12-09-2005, 11:33 AM
Kuch-quwat borligida Hajj qivolish kere.Keyin bola-chaqa, uy-ro'zgor tashvishlari bilan qo'l tegmiydi.
Xudo hammamizga nasib qisin.
real_life
12-22-2005, 07:30 AM
Assalamu alaykum warohmatulloh
Muborak Hajj amali vaqti yaqinlashib kelmoqda, etiboringizga ushbu amalni qanday bajarish haqida flash taqdim etmoqchi edim. Enjoy.
http://www.arabacademy.com/download/elhajj/elhajj.htm
wassalamu alaykum
Amiri Turkiston
12-23-2005, 07:17 AM
bu yil bizadan 5000 kishi HAJga borisharmish
HAKIKAT
12-23-2005, 09:49 AM
THE PILGRIMAGE TO MECCA
Hajj is one of the five fundamental pillars of Islam. The religion attains its maturity by its performance. Almighty Allah requires in the holy Qur“an:
„Pilgrimage thereto is a duty men owe to Allah, those who can afford the journey; but if any deny faith, Allah stands not in need of any of His creatures.“ (Al´ Imrân: 97)
„And proclaim among the people the pilgrimage! They will come to you, on foot and on lean camels, coming from every deep ravine.“ (Hajj: 27)
Muhammad the Messenger of Allah declares:
„O men! Allah orders you to perform the pilgrimage. Therefore go on pilgrimage.“
„Go on pilgrimage. Because as water removes filth, pilgrimage purifies a man“s sins.
Allah the Most High states the superiority of Mecca:
„Allah has appointed the Ka“ba, the Sacred House, a standard for mankind.“ (Mâ´ida: 97)
„(O Muhammad, say:„I am commanded only to serve the Lord of this land which He has hallowed, and unto whom all things belong.“ (Naml: 91)
Almighty Allah declares the grace of Ka´ba:
„The first House (of worship) appointed for men was that at Bakka, full of blessing and of guidance for all kinds of beings. In it are signs manifest; the station of Abraham. Whoever enters it attains security.“ (Al“ Imrân: 96:97)
„And we made the House (the Holy Ka“ba at Mecca) a place of assembly for mankind and a place of safety.“ (Baqara: 125)
Allah the Most Supreme orders to every rich and healthy Muslim (man and woman) who is of responsible age, mentally, financially fit to go on pilgrimage to Mecca once in his or her life.
Hajj (pilgrimage) removes all degree, color, race, language differences; it unites all Muslims. It is a miraculous worship which is an act of thanks to Almighty Allah for physical health and wealth.
Hajj is a divine center and meeting place. The Compassion and Approval of Allah the Most High descend there. Pilgrimage is the fountain of divine blessings. This divine fountain enables a man to reach spiritual maturity.
It is a great happiness to be able to go on pilgrimage and to participate in that divine meeting.
That center provides enormous spiritual power to one who performs it.
During pilgrimage a man can encounter many difficulties. Only and only love overcomes those difficulties. A person should consider those troubles as acts of compassion thus worthy to be experienced.
Muhammad (peace be upon him)the Messenger of Allah requires:
„Most precious worship is the most difficult one.“
Pilgrimage is an ocean of divine grace and a source of light.
During hajj (pilgrimage) a man absolutely has to be honest and patient. He must behave humbly and abstain from all kinds of disputes. His body and clothes should be pure.
Muhammad (peace be upon him) informs:
„A complete pilgrimage is like jihad.“
„Allah forgives all sins, major or minor, of the people who go on pilgrimage with honestly earned money and without committing bad deeds and hypocrisy. They will come out as sinless as a newly(born child (just delivered by his mother).“
„The reward of Hajj Mabrur (the one accepted by Allah) is nothing except Paradise.“
A person going on pilgrimage must have pure sincerity in his heart. His or her intention has to be only to obtain the Approval of Almighty Allah.
If his or her intention is sincere, by Allah the Most High´s order, angels protect him or her.
Muhammad the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) proclaims:
„Pilgrims are under the divine protection of Allah the Most Great.“
If his or her intention is not sincere, he or she only suffers trouble.
Our Master Prophet (peace be upon him) ordains:
„If someone worships with the intention of ambitious display, he remains deprived of Almighty Allah“s Compassion.“
VatanparvaR
12-23-2005, 10:19 AM
Bir narsaga hayronman :rolleyes:
Hajga borishlariga hech ham, umuman qarshi emasman !
Lekin, bu yog'da ahvol bunaqa bo'p tursa, shuncha pul ketqazib Hajga borgandan ko'ra, 28-30 yoshga kirgan o'g'lini uylantira olmayotgan oilalarga, yoki 3-4 kelin bilan bir hovlida chidab yashayotganlarga, dori-darmonga puli yo'qligidan o'lib ketayotganlarga, bolalar uylariga, maktablarga va boshqa-boshqalarga (sanasam ko'p) shu pulini ajratsa Hajga borgandan ham ziyoda savoblarni olmasmikin deymanda
yana bilmadim... :rolleyes:
Royal
12-23-2005, 10:51 AM
Eng kamida 2 million 500 ming sum. Yaxhsi variant bor, lekin agarda bilet qolgan bulsa. Toshkent-Istanbul-Jedda Turk Havo Yullarida tuda obratno bilet olsa eng kupida sizga 1000$ tushadi, keyin usha 15 kunni masjidda utkazish mumkin, agarda soglik joyida bulsa, u bu narsaga kupida 300$ ketadi. mani bir turk dustim Hajjni utgan yil 1400$ bilan ado etgandi.
Olloh hammamizni Hajj safariga muyassar aylasin.
osonmas, marmar yerda yotib turish, har soatda haydab tozalab turiladi va yonidagi narsalardan ajralib qolish havfi kotta...chunki oziq-ovqatga ancha harajat boladi ortada, hojatga borish deganlari ham bor yegandan keyin...
Hajj faqat Makkadamasku yana Arofatga borish kerak, Muzdolifaga borish kerak, hammasini oz holiga ado etish juda ogir bolishi mumkin..
yana bir havfi SAga hajj uchun shahsie yakkahon hajjchilarni qoymsliklari mumkin...
Welsh
12-24-2005, 07:50 AM
Hi everybody, Can you please help me to find talbiyah in mp3 or ram formats. I've found several versions but their sound quality is not very good (pronunciation isn't clear).P.S. Talbiyah - Labbayk Allahumma Labbayk, Labbayk la sharika laka Labbayk, Innal hamda wanni'mata laka walmulk La sharika lak
Royal
12-24-2005, 09:06 AM
Assalomu alaykom
Here should help: http://islam.org/audio/ra90_51.ram
from: http://www.internetmuslim.com/Dawah_Center/audio_center2.htm
download as : save as and transfer from real player (.ram) to mp3 file, should be better.
or here to download:
The Prophet (pbuh) said:
No good deeds done on other days are superior to those who done on the first ten days of Dhul-Hijja (Al-Bukhari#534)
PALESTINE
12-29-2005, 08:07 AM
sadaqa rasoul allah
thank you dear too much
stanford
12-29-2005, 02:04 PM
It is also reported that Muhammad S.A.W said, "There are no days more beloved to Allah to be worshipped in than the ten of Dhul Hijja, the fasting of every day in it is equal to fasting a year, and the worship of every night in it equal to the worship of the Night of Lailatul Qadr. (ImamTirmidhi)
Worshipping at nights of Dhul Hijja includes the following:
*Solat without any specific prescribed number of rakats
*Reciting Quran
*Reading hadiths
*Glorifying Allah S.T and praising Him
*Blessings upon Muhammad S.A.W
Allah, guide me among those You guide.
by fasting the day of Arafah Allah forgives the sins of the previous and the coming year
Pinkie
01-02-2006, 07:48 AM
by fasting the day of Arafah Allah forgives the sins of the previous and the coming year
Ohh? Even in the coming year? I thought it was only the previous year
Alouddin
01-02-2006, 08:02 AM
Ohh? Even in the coming year? I thought it was only the previous year same here... Aziz, I thought it would compensate for the PAST sins only...
Alouddin
01-03-2006, 04:53 AM
a wee du'a for our brothers and sisters in hajj:
alhamdulilah robbil 'alamin, wassalatu wassalamu ala rosulihi muhammadin wa ala alihi wa ashabihi ajmain
ya rabbi, plz accept the journeys that our brethren and sisters have undertaken to perform one of the pillars of your perfect religion that you have bestowed on us.
plz make their trips safe and their ways open. admit their prayers that they are asking you of in front of your house that you have given us ever since the times of our father adam as. they r standing in front of the hajar ul aswad and doing what the perfect man - muhammad saw - had done in his time upon your instruction. do admit their prayers and make their journeys back homes safe.
ya rabbi, do admit our prayers and strengthen the ummah. seeing such a great number of muslims congregated in your house must shed strengthh into the souls of those very muslims. ya rabbi, make that inspirations stay with them forever! may them be able to share that inspriration with all those whom they have left behind praying for them. ya rabbi, hajjis will be throwing stones at shaytan - make him stay away from all of us.
ya rabbi, we have witnessed several occasions when you have taken lives of many people during the hajj in such a way the hikmah of whch is known to you alone. make those who have perished blessed and granted jannatil firdaws and make those stayiing behind further spread the word of islam.
ya rabbi, you are the most kind, the most merciful
do admit our du'a and let us travel to hajj as well
amin!
same here... Aziz, I thought it would compensate for the PAST sins only...
the previous and the coming year
check (Muslim#1163 and #1162)
Pinkie
01-03-2006, 11:06 PM
I might be wrong.....I'll check it,
I'm sorry
No problem:cool:
Subhanallah..during Hajj last year it rained:D
Sayyoh
01-05-2006, 08:06 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060105/ap_on_re_mi_ea/saudi_hotel_collapse
May Allah's mercy be upon them. There should be somebody punished for that.
It is expected to rain heavily this year at Hajj.
AQSHdan nechta odam hajjga borishdi?
AbuMuslim
01-05-2006, 10:54 AM
Хаж хакида флеш, аммо ўша дастурда бир линк бор. Ўша линкда Хаж ибодати хакида мукаммал маълумот бор. Дасутрчани бемалол юклаб олсангиз бўлади.
http://www.islam.uz/60.swf
http://www.islam.uz/fotograf/makka.jpg
as if the building collapsed in Uzbekistan!!!!
read the names:
The person who was renting the building : Saleh Turson Turkistani!!!
the man who was speaking in behalf of the Saudi ministry of health : Dr. Khaled Margilani!!!
Akhee-Abdullah
01-06-2006, 07:12 AM
as if the building collapsed in Uzbekistan!!!!
read the names:
The person who was renting the building : Saleh Turson Turkistani!!!
the man who was speaking in behalf of the Saudi ministry of health : Dr. Khaled Margilani!!!
Assalama alaikum,
I know what u mean...both of them are of Uzbek origin! May Allah accept those who died to the highest of the stations.
Ameen.
Alouddin
01-06-2006, 09:39 AM
why do i keep thinking that there was an "external help" in this collapse?..
Shock
01-06-2006, 10:41 AM
Allah knows the best, but seems not external influence, but overload of reconstruction (http://www.newsru.com/world/06jan2006/aravia.html). why do i keep thinking that there was an "external help" in this collapse?..
malizia
01-06-2006, 11:05 AM
Ne veryu ya v takoe iskuplenie grehov... lyudi godami sobirayut eti basnoslovnie dengi dlya poezdki, kogda luchshe zabotitsa o blijnih svoih i pomogat im.
Amiri Turkiston
01-06-2006, 11:15 AM
Ne veryu ya v takoe iskuplenie grehov... lyudi godami sobirayut eti basnoslovnie dengi dlya poezdki, kogda luchshe zabotitsa o blijnih svoih i pomogat im.
vot v etom i fishka
tam tak i ogovarivaetsya ... esli est nujdayushie ludi vokrug - to lutshe im pomogat - Boh eto vse uvidet i zachtet u sebya za bolshoy plus
Kiyovtura
01-07-2006, 05:50 AM
Ne veryu ya v takoe iskuplenie grehov... lyudi godami sobirayut eti basnoslovnie dengi dlya poezdki, kogda luchshe zabotitsa o blijnih svoih i pomogat im.
Esli ty hatela skazat' chto takim obrazom iskuplenie grehov ne pravda i voobshe ne verish v eto chudo to tebe svetit ad !
v kotoroy ty uzhe ne smojesh tak kak veruyushie allahu delayut hajj dlya iskuplenie grehov, a dlya etogo nujen iymon, ollohni yakkayu yagonaligiga shahodat keltirmoq va qandayin gunoh bulmasin uni kechirguvchi va uni kechira olguvchi faqatgina olloh taolo dur, jannatga bunday toyfa kishilar kirmas ekan - ollohga shirk keltirgan, qarindosh uruglaridan habar olmay ularni unitganlar va ichkilikga berilgan kimsalar, ogoh bulingiz ollohning jazosi yomon bulur duzahniham jannatniham egasi ollohdur magribniham mashriqniham egasi ollohdur uning karami keng, aytinchi qaerga qochib qutilasiz? kech bulib qolmasin chiroging qani bandam deb olloh suraganda uyalib qolmangiz, guringizni nurga tuldirib turuvchi bu ibodatdur, kechalari uqigan namozingizdur, tilovat qilgan kuronningizdur, bular hammasi ollohdan bu bandangni shafoat qilgin u kechalari meni uqidi uyqidan qolib deb surar ekan.
Agarda siz savolingizda , hajj amalini qilgandankura yon atrofdegilarga, qarindosh uruglariga beva becharalarga yordam qilsa bumaydimu desangiz unda bilinki hajj qilishni shunday shartlariham bordur, qushningiz och utirsayu siz hajj qilolmaysiz, uglingiz buyi etib qolgan bulsayu uylanmagan busa qilolmisiz, uylik joylik qilib qurbingiz etsa kegin hajj qilinadi , mani bilishim shu uzur agarda hatoga yulquygan bulsam.
Osama Turkistani was among the people who died in his father's hotel
he was 21
Pinkie
01-07-2006, 12:04 PM
:( He was so young. My brothers and sisters in Islam, we don't know the day we will return to Allah Subhanahu wa ta'ala. It might be in 5 minutes, 5 months, 5 years-we don't know..
Osama Turkistani was among the people who died in his father's hotel
he was 21
Sayyoh
01-12-2006, 06:33 AM
May Allah swt be pleased with them (http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/0112/saudi.html)and grant His Jannatul Firdaws
More than 70 people were killed in a Crowd before Al-Jamarat bridge.
Royal
01-12-2006, 09:49 AM
Olloh oz rahmat etsin, joylari jannatda bolsin
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060112_hajj_hmed_530a.hmedium.jpg
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060110/ss_060110_hajj_mwtease.vsmall.jpg
Slide show of more pictures: http://www.msnbc.com/modules/interactive.aspx
MECCA, Saudi Arabia - Thousands of Muslim pilgrims rushing to complete a symbolic stoning ritual during the hajj tripped over luggage Thursday, causing a crush in which at least 345 people were killed, the Interior Ministry said.
The stampede occurred as tens of thousands of pilgrims headed toward al-Jamarat, a series of three pillars representing the devil that the faithful pelt with stones to purge themselves of sin.
Interior Ministry spokesman Maj. Gen. Mansour al-Turki said 345 people were killed. Dr. Abbasi, a Red Crescent doctor at the scene, put the number of injured at 1,000.
Footage from the scene showed lines of bodies laid out on stretchers on the pavement and covered with sheets. Ahmed Mustafa, an Egyptian pilgrim, said he saw bodies taken away in refrigerator trucks.
An Egyptian pilgrim, Suad Abu Hamada, heard screaming and “saw people jumping over each other.
“The bodies were piled up. I couldn’t count them, they were too many,” he said.
State-run Saudi television Al-Ekhbariyah reported that most of the victims were from South Asia.
Luggage fell from buses
The stampede happened as pilgrims were rushing to complete the last of three days of the stoning ritual before sunset, al-Turki said. Some of the pilgrims began to trip over dropped luggage, causing a large pileup, he said. Many pilgrims carry their personal effects with them as they move between the various stages of the hajj.
The site is a notorious bottleneck for the massive crowds that attend the hajj pilgrimage and has seen deadly stampedes in the past, including one in 1990 that killed 1,426 people and another in February 2004 that killed 244.
This year’s hajj was marred by the Jan. 5 collapse of a building being used as a pilgrims’ hotel that killed 76 people in Mecca.
The pillars are located on a large pedestrian bridge, the width of an eight-lane highway over the desert plain of Mina outside the holy city of Mecca. A number of ramps lead up the bridge to give pilgrims access to the site, and the stampede occurred at the base of one ramp.
Construction proves ineffective
Mina General Hospital, a small facility several hundred yards from the site, was filled with injured, and some victims were sent to hospitals in Mecca and Riyadh, said Ismail Abdul-Zaher, a doctor at the hospital.
Ambulances and police cars streamed into the area, and security forces tried to move pilgrims away from part of the site, though thousands continued with the ritual.
The stampede took place despite Saudi efforts to improve traffic at the site, where all 2.5 million pilgrims participating in the annual hajj move from pillar to pillar to throw their stones, then exit.
Saudi authorities replaced the small round pillars with short walls to allow more people to throw their stones without jostling for position. They also recently widened the bridge, built extra ramps and increased the time pilgrims can carry out the rite — which on the second and final days traditionally takes place from midday until sunset.
Early morning versus midday
Shiite Muslim clerics have issued religious edicts allowing pilgrims to start the ritual in the morning, and many Shiites from Iraq, Iran, Bahrain, Lebanon and Pakistan took advantage to go early in the day.
“This is much better. We are now done with the stoning before the crowd gets larger,” an Iranian pilgrim, Azghar Meshadi, said hours before the stampede.
But Saudi Arabia’s Sunni Muslim clerics, who follow the fundamentalist Wahhabi interpretation of Islam, encouraged pilgrims to stick to the midday rule.
The stoning ritual is one of the last events of the hajj pilgrimage to Islam’s holiest sites, which able-bodied Muslims with the financial means are required by their faith to do at least once.
Many pilgrims had already finished the stoning ritual Thursday and had gone back to Mecca to carry out a farewell circuit around the Kaaba, the black stone cube that Muslims face when they do their daily prayers.
The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this article.
HarunYahya
01-12-2006, 01:52 PM
Olloh oz rahmat etsin, joylari jannatda bolsin
Ameen Brother.
Amiri Turkiston
01-12-2006, 10:58 PM
Allohni o'zi usha bandalarini rahmatiy jannatiy qilsin
Brigadir
01-16-2006, 07:35 PM
16-yanvardan boshlab O'zbekistonlik Hojilar o'z ziyoratlarini tamomlab yurtga qaytishni boshladilar... Alloh ziyoratlarini qabul aylasin... Lekin mani hayron qoldirgan narsa bu yil Hojilar orasida Yulduz Usmonova ham bor ekan. Men tushunmadim haj bu turistik sayoxatmi yoki ziyorat? Hajga borish uchun nafaqat moddiy balki asosan ruhiy jihattan tayyor bo'lishi kere emasmi? Bu ketishda hali borib borib u bu pornstar haj qilibdi deyishsa hech hayratlanmay qolsa kere...
Royal
01-16-2006, 07:51 PM
Несостоявшиеся киргизские хаджи хотят судить руководителей муфтията
10:48 16.01.2006
Несостоявшиеся киргизские паломники требуют судить руководителей мусульманского духовенства страны
На встрече с директором Агентства по делам религии при правительстве Киргизии Умурзаком Мамаюсуповым, которая состоялась в конце прошедшей недели на юге Кыргызстана, обманутые паломники региона потребовали привлечь к судебной ответственности руководителей духовенства, виновных в провале их поездки в хадж.
Напомним, в статье "Лишние паломники Кыргызстана": две с половиной тысячи верующих не смогли отправиться в хадж" (Фергана.Ру, Элмурад Жусупалиев, Алишер Саипов, 10.01.2006), мы сообщали, что по вине организаторов хаджа более трети оплативших все расходы мусульман не смогли поехать в паломничество.
На встрече представители муфтията страны (управление мусульманского духовенства) попытались оправдаться перед пострадавшими, но публика не хотела их даже выслушать. По словам казы (духовного судьи) Джалалабадской области Дильмурата Орозова, только из этой области в этом году подали документы на поездку в хадж более 1600 человек, что вдвое больше обычного. Более семисот из них не смогли уехать в Мекку, а другая часть вернулась обратно из разных стран по различным причинам. "Мы подавали все документы в муфтият раньше многих. Однако по вине руководителей штаба по отправке в хадж наших людей "отодвинули", - сказал Орозов. - То, что я тоже являюсь членом этого штаба, я узнал только после того, как возникли эти проблемы".
У 85-летнего аксакала Хабибуллы-хаджи супруга и четверо близких родственников вернулись обратно из Бишкека, потерпев серьезные убытки. По его мнению, вся эта проблема возникла из-за алчности работников муфтията, которые получают с каждого паломника "долю" в пять долларов США.
>"Пострадали не только люди, - отметил аксакал, - мы опозорили страну на весь мир. С виновников надо спросить по всей строгости".
По мнению хаджибаши (уполномоченные по хаджу на местах) Сайфиддина Хайдарова, который возит людей в хадж уже более десяти лет, во всем виноваты руководители муфтията и их представители на местах. Он считает, что в махинациях с делами паломников замешаны также люди, которые хотят очернить Ислам и ввести смуту в ряды мусульман. Хайдаров сообщил, что в Бишкеке инициативной группой создана комиссия, куда вошли 17 человек из хаджибаши и несостоявшихся паломников. Они намерены провести собственное расследование и передать дело в соответствующие органы.
Отвечая на вопросы граждан, директор Агентства по делам религии У.Мамаюсупов сообщил, что руководству муфтията дан срок до 25 февраля, чтобы они сами разобрались в ситуации. После указанного срока Агентство рассмотрит ситуацию и вынесет свое решение. У.Мамаюсупов признался, что раньше с учетом того, что религия отделена от государства, агентство взирало на подобные проблемы со стороны. "Теперь этого не будет. Мы будем принимать самые жесткие меры в отношении виновных, поскольку здесь затронуты права наших граждан. Виновники обязательно понесут заслуженное наказание и возместят понесенные убытки", - заявил он.
У.Мамаюсупов также подчеркнул, что в следующем году первыми в хадж будут отправлены те, кто не смог поехать туда в этом сезоне. В ответ на это прозвучал вопрос одного из обманутых аксакалов Каримова Абдували: "А вы можете дать гарантию, что мы доживем до этого времени?"
А.Мамараимов 16.01.2006
Источник - Фергана.Ру
R.Azimov
01-16-2006, 07:59 PM
16-yanvardan boshlab O'zbekistonlik Hojilar o'z ziyoratlarini tamomlab yurtga qaytishni boshladilar... Alloh ziyoratlarini qabul aylasin... Lekin mani hayron qoldirgan narsa bu yil Hojilar orasida Yulduz Usmonova ham bor ekan. Men tushunmadim haj bu turistik sayoxatmi yoki ziyorat? Hajga borish uchun nafaqat moddiy balki asosan ruhiy jihattan tayyor bo'lishi kere emasmi? Bu ketishda hali borib borib u bu pornstar haj qilibdi deyishsa hech hayratlanmay qolsa kere...
Yulduz Usmonova hajga borsa nima bo'libdi?
Ajabmas agar gunohlari bo'lsa, olloh dargohida kechirilsa...
P.s: Sizning fikrlaringiz bizdagi "aqlli" muxolifatchilarning fikrlariga yaqin kelibdi menimcha... (saytlariga kirib turmaysizmi mabodo) jokin... :)
R.A.
Brigadir
01-16-2006, 09:32 PM
Yulduz Usmonova hajga borsa nima bo'libdi?
Ajabmas agar gunohlari bo'lsa, olloh dargohida kechirilsa...
P.s: Sizning fikrlaringiz bizdagi "aqlli" muxolifatchilarning fikrlariga yaqin kelibdi menimcha... (saytlariga kirib turmaysizmi mabodo) jokin... :)
R.A.
Nima qilibdi deng? Hech narsa... Yulduz Usmonova ham Allohning bir bandasi. Mayli siz etganchalik gunohlaridan poklanib kelgan bo'lasin.. Bu yog'iga qanday bo'lishini birga klip va konsertlaridan kuzatib boramiz... 2004yilgi konsertida fotiha surasini o'qigandi... Lekin aynan o'sha konsertda islom aqidalarining hech bir miyorlariga to'g'ri kelmaydigan ahvolda raqqosalar sahnani "bezashgadi"...
"Aqlli" muholifatchilarga kelsak, ular g'irt lo'ttivoz... Ayniqsa birlikchilar... Achigan og'izdan sassiq gap chiqadi degan gap manimcha aynan shu "aqlli" muholifatchilarga chiqarilgan bo'lsa ajabmas... Ulardan faqat ma'lumot olish mumkin, lekin hech bir tuzuroq fikr emas...
Shokirbek
01-17-2006, 09:35 AM
Yulduz Usmonova hajga borsa nima bo'libdi?
Ajabmas agar gunohlari bo'lsa, olloh dargohida kechirilsa...
P.s: Sizning fikrlaringiz bizdagi "aqlli" muxolifatchilarning fikrlariga yaqin kelibdi menimcha... (saytlariga kirib turmaysizmi mabodo) jokin... :)
R.A.
Ulamolar hajning mabrur - Olloh nazdida qabul bo'lgan haj bo'lishi uchun qilgan shartlaridan eng muhimi: ilgari Islomga zid qilib yurgan gunohlarini qilmaslik, deganlar, shuning uchun, qaranglar, yana o'sha behayoligiga qaytsa, amin bo'linglarki, buning haji haj bo'lgan emas, garchi bu dunyoda boshqa haj qilish unga vojib bo'lmasada.
Ilgarigi o'tgan oriflardan biri Arafotda minglab odamning yig'ilib turganini ko'rgan shogirdi unga: Hojilar bunchalik ko'p-a! deb hayratlanganda: o'g'lim, odamlar bunchalik ko'p-a, lekin hojilar juda oz, deb javob bergan ekan.
Nima qilibdi deng? Hech narsa... Yulduz Usmonova ham Allohning bir bandasi. Mayli siz etganchalik gunohlaridan poklanib kelgan bo'laqosin.. Bu yog'iga qanday bo'lishini birga klip va konsertlaridan kuzatib boramiz... 2004yilgi konsertida fotiha surasini o'qigandi... Lekin aynan o'sha konsertda islom aqidalarining hech bir miyorlariga to'g'ri kelmaydigan ahvolda raqqosalar sahnani "bezashgadi"...
Kuzatishiz shartmas birodar. Utkan yili umraga borib kelgandan keyingi kliplarini qarivurin.
Yulduz borsa boribdi, uyam yaratganni bandasi.
Nima dirdik, bizagayam ulug joylani ziyorat qilish nasib qisin
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