Майкл Джексон станет мусульманином

[stanford]

Jackson to build a mosque in Bahrain


MANAMA — World’s top pop singer Michael Jackson, who recently settled down in Manama has donated a huge amount of money, the figure was not disclosed, for building a state-of-the-art mosque near his luxury palace in the Bahraini capital, according to his spokesman. The proposed mosque would be designated for learning the principles and teachings of Islam, as well as teaching of English language, for which high-standard teachers would be brought from United States under his personal supervision, the spokesman said.


Source (http://www.khaleejtimes.com/displayArticle.asp?col=&section=middleeast&xfile=data/middleeast/2005/November/middleeast_November671.xml)

[Gareeb]

Jackson to build a mosque in Bahrain


MANAMA — World’s top pop singer Michael Jackson, who recently settled down in Manama has donated a huge amount of money, the figure was not disclosed, for building a state-of-the-art mosque near his luxury palace in the Bahraini capital, according to his spokesman. The proposed mosque would be designated for learning the principles and teachings of Islam, as well as teaching of English language, for which high-standard teachers would be brought from United States under his personal supervision, the spokesman said.


Source (http://www.khaleejtimes.com/displayArticle.asp?col=&section=middleeast&xfile=data/middleeast/2005/November/middleeast_November671.xml)
O'sha pulini Bahrayngamas, Pokistondagi zilziladan jabrlanganlarga berganda yaxshiroq bo'lardi.Pul topib hisob topmagan odamlarda.

[VatanparvaR]

Vaqtida Muhammad Alini, Mayk Taysonni 'musulmon' qilgan arab milliarderlari yaqinda Jacksonniyam 'musulmon' qilishadi.
Propaganda. hehe.

(yuqoridagi fikr to'g'ri yoki noto'g'riligiga hech kim kafolat bermaydi !)

[Uzbekistan2010]

Jackson to bulid a mosque


BAHRAIN?????????? :pukey: :throwup:

[al-quds muslim]

salamu alaikum,

happy to listen for news about constructing mosques, but ,i noticed in quran an ayet saying about that great work , saying as the following

besm ellah ir-rahman ir-raheem

(He only shall tend Allah's sanctuaries who believeth in Allah and the Last Day and observeth proper worship and payeth the poor-due and feareth none save Allah. For such (only) is it possible that they can be of the rightly guided. ) surat at-tawbah(ayet 18)

sadaqa allahul-atheem


thank u all very much

[ajoyib_bola]

Are they accepting his money? From that pedophile? What a hypocrisy! This is a big image problem to the Muslim world. Obviously money can make people reject the morals they hold in highest esteems. Just makes me laugh.

[Samimiy]

Vaqtida Muhammad Alini, Mayk Taysonni 'musulmon' qilgan arab milliarderlari yaqinda Jacksonniyam 'musulmon' qilishadi.
Propaganda. hehe.

(yuqoridagi fikr to'g'ri yoki noto'g'riligiga hech kim kafolat bermaydi !)

Muhammad Ali bilan Mayk Tayson musulmonligi chin, chunki ular ikkalasi ham buni etirof etgan. Qoidaga kura "Men musulmonman" degan kishi odamlar nazarida musulmon hisoblanadi. Uning imoni chinmi, yuqmi, buni faqat Xudo biladi.

[Aus]

Vaqtida Muhammad Alini, Mayk Taysonni 'musulmon' qilgan arab milliarderlari yaqinda Jacksonniyam 'musulmon' qilishadi.
Propaganda. hehe.

(yuqoridagi fikr to'g'ri yoki noto'g'riligiga hech kim kafolat bermaydi !)

manimch amajburlab musulmon qilib bo'lmaydi..insonni uzidan chiqishi kire bu hohish:)
uzi chunib yetmaguncha uni hech kim majburlamidi.....

[VatanparvaR]

Muhammad Ali bilan Mayk Tayson musulmonligi chin, chunki ular ikkalasi ham buni etirof etgan. Qoidaga kura "Men musulmonman" degan kishi odamlar nazarida musulmon hisoblanadi. Uning imoni chinmi, yuqmi, buni faqat Xudo biladi.

Hurmatli Samimiy !
Afsuski keyingi paytlarda shunaqa ommoviy ravishda nomiga etrof etish ko"payib ketmoqda. Odatda bu taniqli shahslar orasida. Etibor bering, ommoviy ravishda !
Nega?
Menimcha musulmon bo"lish uchun Men musulmonman deb ko"krak kerib aytish keragi yok. Va bunga muqaddas kitoblarda ham urg"u berilgan bo"lishi kerak. Ozing bil, Hudo bilsin. Osha Mayk Taysonning hayotiga e"tibor qilsangiz, Musulmonman deb jar solgan paytlarida dunyoni to"ntaraman deb turgan milliarder edi va o"zini tutishidan ham odamlik hsusiyatlarini ko"rish mumkin edi. Hozirchi ? Puli yok. Nega ?
Chunki u vaqtida Men musulmonman deb ulgurgan. Missiya bajarilgan. Endi uni keragi yok. Tayson ham, musulmon man deb aytishni shu kambag"al bo'lib, daydib yuradigan vaqtlarimga saqlab qo'ymagan ekanmanda deb yurigan bo'lsa kerak :D .
Hozir yurishini ko"ring. Qilayotgan ishlarida Musulmonchilikning M harfiyam yok manimcha. Afsuski bundan lanati pulning hidi kelyapti.

(fikrlarim factlarga asoslanmagan)

[VatanparvaR]

manimch amajburlab musulmon qilib bo'lmaydi..insonni uzidan chiqishi kire bu hohish:)
uzi chunib yetmaguncha uni hech kim majburlamidi.....

Hurmatli Aus !
Fikrlaringizni hurmat qilaman.
Lekin tarihda, Islomni hamma ham o"z hohishi bilan qabul qilmaganligini eslashning ozi kifoya bo'lsa kerak deb oylayman. Buning yaqqol misoli sifatida 1992 yil Hindistonda bo'lgan voqealarni keltirish mumkin. Lekin unda teskarisi, yani musulmonlarning kallasini olishgan edi. Bu hindlarning asrlar moboynida ichida saqlab kelayotgan qasdning uchquni bo"lsa ajab emas.
Chunki vaqtida oz diniga sodiq qolgan, Islomga otishni hohlamagan hindlarning kallasini olishgan.

Bu achchiq haqiqat.

(bu faqat mening fikrim, tog"riligiga kafolat bermayman)

[Amiri Turkiston]

O'sha pulini Bahrayngamas, Pokistondagi zilziladan jabrlanganlarga berganda yaxshiroq bo'lardi.Pul topib hisob topmagan odamlarda.

hammaning o'ziga yarasha orzusi buladi
o'zining dunyo qarashi

birovning bir ishini to'g'ri emas deyish hato bulishi mumkin

mayli Maykl jonning ham omadini bersin

Oz'b. da bir shunaqangi madrasa ochsa ham yomon bulmasdi

[Gareeb]

hammaning o'ziga yarasha orzusi buladi
o'zining dunyo qarashi

birovning bir ishini to'g'ri emas deyish hato bulishi mumkin

mayli Maykl jonning ham omadini bersin

Oz'b. da bir shunaqangi madrasa ochsa ham yomon bulmasdi
Har qanday dunyoqarash ham to'gri bo'lavermaydi.

Kim haqida qanday o'ylab , qanday xulosa chiqarish har kimning o'z ishi.

Mayklga avvalo hidoyat tilaymiz.

Uzbda madrasalar etarli , hukumat ruxsati kerak xolos.

[Marg'iloniy]

Tuppa tog'ri.

Tavhid kalimasini aytimi demak u bizni nazarimizda musulmon. Bizlar tilida aytgan kalimasiga qarab baho berishimiz, zohiri esa Allohga ma'lum bu payg'ambarimiz sunnatlari. Saodat asridayam payg'ambarimiz munofiqlarni tili bilan bergan iqrorini yetarli bilib, qilgan juda kup ayblarini kechirganlar.

Muhammad Ali bilan Mayk Tayson musulmonligi chin, chunki ular ikkalasi ham buni etirof etgan. Qoidaga kura "Men musulmonman" degan kishi odamlar nazarida musulmon hisoblanadi. Uning imoni chinmi, yuqmi, buni faqat Xudo biladi.

[farishta]

Ha eshitishimga qaraganda AQSHda eng tez tarqalayotgan din bu Islom dini ekan. Balki Michael ham Islomni qabul qilib Islom rivojiga oz bo'lsa ham hissa qo'shmoqchi bo'lgan bo'lsa buning nimasi yomon. Balkim shu ishi bilan Alloh oldida qilgan gunohlari uchun ajrim so'rayotgandir bechora.



Do not judge others, one day comes you will be judged.

[Alesser]

Masjid barpo etish albatta bu juda ham yahshi. Bilishimcha Odam vafot qilgandan sung agar uzidan 3 narsadan birini qoldirsa shularni savobi Ohirat kuniga qadar u kishiga borib turar ekan. Bulardan biri Masjid barpo etish, shu Masjidda Musulmon ibodat qilaverar ekan, savobidan bu Masjidni qurishga hissa qushgan odam ham bahramand bulaveradi ekan. 2 chisi esa uzidan ahli mumin, yahshi farzand qoldirish, va nihoyat 3-si esa uzida bulgan ilmini birovga urgatib ketish ekan. Shuning uchun Ohirat kunida bir guruh insonlar bular ekan. Ularning yuzlari huddi Oy tulganda nur taratayotganday, nur taratib turar ekan. Hamma, hattoki Rasulullohdan (pbuh) ilgari utgan Paygambarlar ham ularga havas bilan qarab, bular qanday Allohning dustlari ekan deb, hayron qolishar ekan. Shunda Farishtalar bular Muhammadning (pbuh) ummatlari deb aytishar ekan. Yuzdan nur taralib turishga esa Islomning bizning davrimizga qadar ustozlariming bizga urnak bulib urgatib ketishi. Shunda Jannatga birinchi bulib Paygambarimiz (pbuh) ummatlari kirib ketadi, har bir sahobalarning orqasida minglab Musulmonlar ergashgan holda. Ahir uylasak Abu Bakr, Umar, Ali Radianlahu Anhumalar uzlaridan keyingi urgatib ketgan ilmlari haligacha kuplab Musulmon ahli tomonidan zikr etib kelinmoqda.
Masjidga qaytadigan bulsak, agar inson biror savob ish qilmoqchi bulsa buni hech kimga indamay, e'lon qilmasdan qilsa ham bulaveradi. Nafaqat muslulmon odam, balki har bir odam yashhilik qilsa Hudo uchun qilishi kerak, hammaga jar solib obru uchun qiladigan bulsa u yahshilikdan nima qoladi?!
Shunchaki bir misol, men yashaydigan joyda bir yangi Masjid qurila boshladi. Shu Masjidga hissa qushgan odamni men tasodifan bilib qoldim. Buni Masjid Shekh (Imom) uzi tasodifan menga aytib quydi. Bu Masjidni qurishga katta hissa qushayotgan odam Imomdan hech kim bilmasin deb iltimos qilgan va hammadan sir tutgan, hattoki qarindoshlari ham bilmaydi. U kishi uzi ijaraga kvda utiradi (Garbdagi kup insonlarga uhshab), zurga uyga pul tuplagan, va keyin uy olish urniga shu Masjidni qurmoqchi bulgan. Uzi kvda utirib bulsa ham uy urniga odamlar ibodat qilsin deb holis Alloh uchun Masjidga qurishga bergan, va eng muhumi buni hammadan sir tutgan. Allohning uzi savobi ajrini bersin.... Shunchaki kurgan bilganlarimni sizlar bilan urtoqlashgim keldi...
Hammaga rahmat,

[SHOHRUHM1]

O'sha pulini Bahrayngamas, Pokistondagi zilziladan jabrlanganlarga berganda yaxshiroq bo'lardi.Pul topib hisob topmagan odamlarda.

Education first. they (pakistan) r getting help from all over.

But u r right he could have donated to Pakistan too but may be he did???

[Dani]

Judge not lest you be judged yourself.

Anyone who professes that there is no gods save Allah and Muhammad is his prophet and servant is Muslim. If he did something bad being Muslim, it is up to Allah to decide. Leave Michael alone, I think by disscussing him here on forum we are doing more sin. (ghiyba).

[AbuMuslim]

Майкл Жексон Исломни кабул килишга якин турибди. (http://islam.uz/main/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=128&Itemid=47)

[musoFR]

Майкл Джексон готовится принять ислам (http://www.religio.ru/lecsicon/09/165.html). По информации арабского издания Khaleej Times (http://www.khaleejtimes.com/index00.asp), после завершения громкого судебного процесса в США Джексон решил переехать вместе с тремя детьми в Бахрейн.

Рядом с домом он намерен построить мечеть.


http://newsru.com/religy/09dec2005/jackson.html

[Shokirbek]

Olloh hidoyat qilsin, dinga kirgandan keyin qaytmaydigan sobitqadam qilsin.

Abu Sufyon (r.a.) mushriklik vaqtidan Vizantiyaga qilgan safarida Hiraql (Vizantiya hokimi (Gerakl), yoki bir viloyatining hokimi) undan Payg'ambarimiz sifatlarini so'raydi, so'ragan savollari ichida: "Tobe'laridan birortasi dini yoqmay qolib qaytayaptimi?" degan savolga Abu Sufyon:"Yo'q" deb javob beradi, shunda Gerakl:"Farahbaxsh Iymon qalblarga o'rnasa ana shunday bo'ladi (joyidan siljimaydigan sobit bo'ladi)" deydi.

[Kitaro]

FIgnya vse eto....

[Shokirbek]

FIgnya vse eto....

????
Mening gapim hammi?

[Delf]

Da pust' on hot' papoi rimskim stanovitsa.

A pedofilom bit' ne perestanet.


Delf.

[tarafdor]

Da pust' on hot' papoi rimskim stanovitsa.

A pedofilom bit' ne perestanet.


Delf.

Bl**t, hamma vaqt ig'vo bilan yashaysizlar...xursand bo'lib duo qilish kerak, ajab emas uning fanatlari ham Islom bila qiziqib qolsa...faqat xursand bo'lib duo qilaylik...Ollohning qulida hammasi...iymoni kuchli qilib pedofillikdan qaytar insholloh...

[Martingale]

Bl**t, hamma vaqt ig'vo bilan yashaysizlar...xursand bo'lib duo qilish kerak, ajab emas uning fanatlari ham Islom bila qiziqib qolsa...faqat xursand bo'lib duo qilaylik...Ollohning qulida hammasi...iymoni kuchli qilib pedofillikdan qaytar insholloh...

are you sure?:)

[adagio]

are you sure?:)

WHy not?
u know, this world is the " world of reasons", everything is built on reasons or more precesiely " the world of causes " " Sabablar olami",
if every reason is at the good time then one may witness many things that one may have considered as impossible!!
just an example, read why Yusuf Islam (Cat Stevens) reverted to Islam
someone( brother if i am not mistaken) presented him Quran, YI got interested and, gathered more info, then u know the rest..., in London there is an islamic school, all courses are taught( physics, biology, maths.. as all other schools), and it is the best school in london, i mean the quality of education, the percentage of the graduates who win the best places at the universities of UK.

I have a friend , a german, who also reverted to Islam, he has read so many books on Islam, sometimes I feel ashamed of our illeteracy!!!

he also got acquainted with Islam thanks to some reasons...

so if a particuliar reason is done then many miracles may be witnessed

Though, if M. Jackson revertes to Islam , the Greatness of Islam won't change, it has always been Great, it will be, . But it will be M jackson who will profit from his decision.

Bazan uylab qolaman, odamlar qanday qilib shunday Haqiqatga kur qoladilar aaaaaa? shunday ochiq haqiqatni kurolmidilar-a???

Qalb kuzi yopiq bulishi naqadar katta musibat!!!

[Shahnoz]

Майкл Джексон готовится принять ислам (http://www.religio.ru/lecsicon/09/165.html). По информации арабского издания Khaleej Times (http://www.khaleejtimes.com/index00.asp), после завершения громкого судебного процесса в США Джексон решил переехать вместе с тремя детьми в Бахрейн.

Рядом с домом он намерен построить мечеть.


http://newsru.com/religy/09dec2005/jackson.html

Ё товба... гапииз рост булсин... Пусть он сначала детей любить научится...
Хотя... может это и правда... станет он мусульманином... придётся имя менять... нельзя же так: Michel Jackson - и мусульманин...

[daejeon]

Майкл Джексон готовится принять ислам (http://www.religio.ru/lecsicon/09/165.html). По информации арабского издания Khaleej Times (http://www.khaleejtimes.com/index00.asp), после завершения громкого судебного процесса в США Джексон решил переехать вместе с тремя детьми в Бахрейн.

Рядом с домом он намерен построить мечеть.


http://newsru.com/religy/09dec2005/jackson.html
shu Maykljongayam Olloh insop beripti qoganlagayam insop bersin bizgayam bersin Omin Ollohu Akbar.

[PALESTINE]

AS-SALAMU ALAIKUM WA RAHMATULLAH,

mickael jackson after reverting to islam, begin singing islamic songs,

and now preparing for asong in the pure arabic language,

source : http://www.watan.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=4097&mode=


download this great jackson islaimc song, and enjoy,;)

the name of it is (give thanks to allah):D

http://www.aldair.net/data3/uploads/mjebtihal.mp3 (http://www.aldair.net/data3/uploads/mjebtihal.mp3)

[Aziz]

AS-SALAMU ALAIKUM WA RAHMATULLAH,

mickael jackson after reverting to islam, begin singing islamic songs,

and now preparing for asong in the pure arabic language,

source : http://www.watan.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=4097&mode=


download this great jackson islaimc song, and enjoy,;)

the name of it is (give thanks to allah):D

http://www.aldair.net/data3/uploads/mjebtihal.mp3 (http://www.aldair.net/data3/uploads/mjebtihal.mp3)



I'm sorry brother,
but this song is for Zain Bhika in the album Our World or Towards the lights I'm not sure
I bought that Album from Dubai
his sound sounds very much like jackson

http://www.zainbhikha.com/

[migrant]

I heard that brother of M.J. has accapted ISLAM but have not heard about him

Is that also true?

[MyMoon]

It may be some Mickael Jackson but it is definitely not the Michael Jackson that does moonwalk and all that stuff. I doubt he ever changed his religion to Islam.

[MegaZ]

What a bunch of crap. The child rapist is now singing Islamic songs ... shame to Islam world.

[Guardian]

Do you, really, care about his religious preferences, or is it his private issue? wtf?

[MyMoon]

Как вы думаете, даже если он станет/стал мусульманином будет ли он по-прежнему хватать себя меж ног когда танцует? :lol: Противоречит ли этот его "танцевальный элемент" принципам Ислама?

[Elfy]

Как вы думаете, даже если он станет/стал мусульманином будет ли он по-прежнему хватать себя меж ног когда танцует? :lol: Противоречит ли этот его "танцевальный элемент" принципам Ислама?Menimcha, agar Chindan ham Islom Dinini kabul kilsa, u na koshik aytishi, na raksga tushishga haklidir.

[Amiri Turkiston]

Menimcha, agar Chindan ham Islom Dinini kabul kilsa, u na koshik aytishi, na raksga tushishga haklidir.


eee qattan oldiz bu gaplarni

siz Islom dinini qanaqadir mahluqqa aylantirib qo'ydiz uuuu

[Martingale]

Fcuck Michael Jackson, Happy New Year!:)

[Elfy]

eee qattan oldiz bu gaplarni

siz Islom dinini qanaqadir mahluqqa aylantirib qo'ydiz uuuu

MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS (MA'AAZIF)
The use of all musical instruments (*236) is forbidden. This ruling has been arrived at through an analysis of the texts of authentic hadeeths narrated by Al-Bukhaari and Ibn Maajah, in which the word al-ma'aazif (musical instruments) occurs. Since the wording of the text is general ('aammun), its directive encompasses all types of musical instruments except the daff, whose permissible use is a specification (takhsees) of the general text or an exception to the general ruling. These two texts are sufficiently clear proof which establish a general, all-encompassing prohibition. However, to remove the grounds for all possible specious arguments regarding this all-inclusive hukm (ruling). And in order to clarify it beyond a doubt, the shari'ah has conveyed a number of other texts which categorize the various possible types of musical instruments and prohibit them. The categories of musical instruments are as follows: (a) wind instruments, (*239) (b) string instruments, (*240) (c) percussion instruments (*241) and (d) a combination of two or more of the above. (*242)
Preceding texts of the sunnah designated the general ruling of prohibition regarding singing under certain circumstances. The narration of Al-Haakim described the singing voice coupled with music as imbecilic and sinful. Naturally, singing to musical accompaniment is forbidden since it is coupled with music. (*255) As for innocent singing to the accompaniment of just the daff, this has been allowed on only specific occasions. (*256)
Singing without musical accompaniment is permitted under certain circumstances and with particular conditions. The lyrics of the songs must be pure and innocent, and must keep within the moral bounds set by Islamic teachings. Hence, lyrics which are erotic and licentious (*257) and/or sung in a licentious manner (*258) (which adversely affects the libidinous instincts of the listener) are undoubtedly forbidden. Moreover, even innocent songs become forbidden if they are performed in the presence of, or are coupled with, such prohibited acts as gambling, drinking and other deeds of moral depravity. Singing by women is restricted to a female audience as the nature of a woman's (singing) voice is to excite sexual feeling in the male listener. Generally speaking, these songs should be pure and innocent although they need not be restricted to Islamic themes. They may express simple joys, wisdom, etc. They may be in praise of such attributes as courage, fearlessness and strength; or the lyrics may commemorate historical incidents such as battles against the enemy, etc. Among the best songs are those which encourage piety through good deeds done for the sake of Allah.
I will try to find some hadeeth to prove my statement.

[Dilshodius]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but one of the Prophet Muhammad's wives was 13 or 14 years old on the day of the marriage. It was common practice to marry 13 years old girl and have sex with her.

P.S. If it has been prooved that Michael Jackson commited pedophiliac acts towards boys, he would be in a jail already, no matter how much money he has or how good his lawyers are (you can avoid jail once, but not two or three times).

[Elfy]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but one of the Prophet Muhammad's wives was 13 or 14 years old on the day of the marriage. It was common practice to marry 13 years old girl and have sex with her.

In the time of Prophet, a lot of things were different. It was ok to have slaves, it was ok to trade slaves, it was ok to have 4 wives. What does this have to do with Michael Jackson, who is neither Muslim, nor married any of those children whom he had sex with?

P.S. If it has been prooved that Michael Jackson commited pedophiliac acts towards boys, he would be in a jail already, no matter how much money he has or how good his lawyers are (you can avoid jail once, but not two or three times).

Money and Power can help u to avoid Jail and troubles. It has been Proven that Bush started criminal war Against Independent State of Iraq, so what? I do not see him in Jail. Even more, he was reellected for the second period.:rolleyes:

[Dilshodius]

In the time of Prophet, a lot of things were different. It was ok to have slaves, it was ok to trade slaves, it was ok to have 4 wives. What does this have to do with Michael Jackson, who is neither Muslim, nor married any of those children whom he had sex with?

Money and Power can help u to avoid Jail and troubles. It has been Proven that Bush started criminal war Against Independent State of Iraq, so what? I do not see him in Jail. Even more, he was reellected for the second period.:rolleyes:

The Holy Muslim book, Quran, was written at the times when Prophet Muhammad lived. If times changed, why the followers of Islam try apply everything written in the Holy Book to modern world.. And there is no proove that Michael Jackson had sex with those kids.. If there was, as I said, he would be in jail. It doesn't matter was that girl Muhammad's wife or not, if he had sex with her, then it is pedophillia.

What does this case have to do with Bush? J. Bush were elected by majority of the nations as a head of the state. As a president he has power to initiate military invasion or stop it, given the support of the Congress. He acted as a legal entity in this case, with whole administration behind his back. You won't see him in a jail because there is nothing that he could be legally sued for. It is politics, you do what you have to do. Did anybody sue Lyndon Johnson for initiating war against Vietnam? No. But would they sue him if they found any evidence Johnson poking small kids? They whole nation would despise him and they would put him in a jail, ultimately. Nation (Americans) don't give a sh*t about faults in politics, that is why they reelected J.W. Bush. But if he commited any immoral+illegal action, they would boo him all the way. Like people did with William Clinton, just because poor guy boned a chick while being a president.

If one becomes rich, people will tell that he raped them to death, did other illegal sh*t, in order to suck in some money

[Sayyoh]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but one of the Prophet Muhammad's wives was 13 or 14 years old on the day of the marriage. It was common practice to marry 13 years old girl and have sex with her. correct ME if I am wrong, but you are talking about Aisha r.a. AND you are alleging that my/our beloved Prophet Muhammad mustafa :saw: had sex with Aisha r.a... Do you have proof for that?.. I don't... And if you ARE alleging that Muhammad :saw: had intercourse with her, since "It was common practice to marry 13 years old girl and have sex with her" with no proof, I ask moderators to warn you for offending my religious views...

peace

Islam is absolute

[Akhee-Abdullah]

What a bunch of crap. The child rapist is now singing Islamic songs ... shame to Islam world.


1) All sins are forgiven if repented sincerely including shirk (in one's own life time of course), and a person is determined to never commit that sinful action again.

2) It has not been proven yet if MJ has ever molested children, or do you have proofs MegaZ, were you in the same bedroom? Or do you know who was in the same bedroom? I do not want you to share the details with us...I am just wondering if you do or not...if you really do then what is stopping from going to the court and testifying against him.

If he really DID what is claimed against him, then he should definietly face the consequences of his actions according to the law. I do not what the penalty is for being a fag in the States. I thought they were being accepted as regular citizens....or did you guys make up ur minds under conservative Chrysler-tian Gorge UU Bush (man)?

3) The parents of the children who let him to sleep with the children in the same bed room should be jailed knowing his past history at the court.

4) Honestly, I do know where MJ stands and who really he is...I guess it does not make any difference to the Religion of Islaam if he does this or that for Muslims, It does not make Islaam more or less attractive. MJ does not represent Islaam nor the Muslim people.

5) If he wants to accept Islaam, then why not, as long as he worships Allah only, never commits shirk, not a fag we hope his actions will be rewarding for him Insha'Allah.

6) BTW, I never knew there were "Islamic songs", AFAIK, Music is haraam in Islaam. Hope MJ knows what he is doing and getting himself into : ) He would have to step down from his "throne of King of Pop Music" and step up to become a Muslim. Not an easy thing...for many...Let's watch what happens and do not rush to make any conclusions at this time...

Wassalam alaikum.

[Dilshodius]

"It was common practice to marry 13 years old girl and have sex with her" with no proof, I ask moderators to warn you for offending my religious views...

Arabs had practice of marrying 13-14 girls even before Islam became main religion in the region. Barbarian practice, some may call. If you want any proof, go and read some books about that period. Excuse me, I forgot to bring scanned pages of books I read in junior high and attached them here so you could see some facts. I didn't state that Muhammad had sex with his young wife. But it was common practice and it has nothing to do with your religion. If I say that only sick people can marry four women, will I offend your religious views? If you say "Yes, you offended me, cuz Islam allows men to marry as much as 4 wives", then Christians on this forum should ask moderators to warn you Christianity says that marriage could be between one man and one woman.

It's not religious matter, but moral. Ask yourself such question as: Being commodity seller, did Muhammad ever cheat in business? Did he ever slap his wives? What he done as a person has nothing to do with what he done as a Prophet.

Most ignorance is vincible ignorance. We don't know because we don't want to know.
~Aldous Huxley

P.S. You can go and rat me out to moderators, I don't care.

[Akhee-Abdullah]

Arabs had practice of marrying 13-14 girls even before Islam became main religion in the region. Barbarian practice, some may call. If you want any proof, go and read some books about that period. Excuse me, I forgot to bring scanned pages of books I read in junior high and attached them here so you could see some facts. I didn't state that Muhammad had sex with his young wife. But it was common practice and it has nothing to do with your religion. If I say that only sick people can marry four women, will I offend your religious views? If you say "Yes, you offended me, cuz Islam allows men to marry as much as 4 wives", then Christians on this forum should ask moderators to warn you Christianity says that marriage could be between one man and one woman.

It's not religious matter, but moral. Ask yourself such question as: Being commodity seller, did Muhammad ever cheat in business? Did he ever slap his wives? What he done as a person has nothing to do with what he done as a Prophet.

Most ignorance is vincible ignorance. We don't know because we don't want to know.
~Aldous Huxley

P.S. You can go and rat me out to moderators, I don't care.

Hope this will be helful Insha'Allah.

This topic was dscussed previously.

Under the topic:

A reply to those who charged Muhammad sal'Allahu alayhi wassalam with pedophily.


Did 53 year old man had sex with 6 year old girl??? Please listen to the lecture and enjoy the ride.

Here is the link http://www.forum.uz/showthread.php?t=22954

[Shirin_Qiz]

Shunchaki bir misol, men yashaydigan joyda bir yangi Masjid qurila boshladi. Shu Masjidga hissa qushgan odamni men tasodifan bilib qoldim. Buni Masjid Shekh (Imom) uzi tasodifan menga aytib quydi. Bu Masjidni qurishga katta hissa qushayotgan odam Imomdan hech kim bilmasin deb iltimos qilgan va hammadan sir tutgan, hattoki qarindoshlari ham bilmaydi. U kishi uzi ijaraga kvda utiradi (Garbdagi kup insonlarga uhshab), zurga uyga pul tuplagan, va keyin uy olish urniga shu Masjidni qurmoqchi bulgan. Uzi kvda utirib bulsa ham uy urniga odamlar ibodat qilsin deb holis Alloh uchun Masjidga qurishga bergan, va eng muhumi buni hammadan sir tutgan. Allohning uzi savobi ajrini bersin.... Shunchaki kurgan bilganlarimni sizlar bilan urtoqlashgim keldi...
Hammaga rahmat,

" Asslamu alaykum ahli jamoa val oqibatul muttaqim assalatu vassalatu vala rasulihi va olihi ashabihi ajmain"...

Albatta juda ham tug'ri fikrlarni bildiribsiz lekin ayrim fikrlarizga kechirasizu men qushilmayman chunki 1 chidan sizga tasodifan aytgan imom notug'ri ish qilgan chunki imomga ishonib aytilgan sirni u hech kimga yatmaslik kerak edi.Ikinchidan u inson uzi ijarada o'tiradi debsiz balki siz u insonni qanday yahshayotganligini ham bilarsiz ,u uz oilasini rizqini qiyib masjid qurdirayotgandir.Islomda oilasi ota onasi qarindoshlaridan ortgandan keyin bunday ishlarni amalga oshirish ma'qbul bular edi deb aytilgan menimcha u inson hech kimga bilintirmasdan usha pulini masjid uchun bergan oilasi ham bilmagan deyapsiz hush nima uchun u shunday qilgan savob uchunmi menimcha usha pullarini farzandlariga yoki ota onasiga sarf etganda kattaroq savob bulmas edimi .

Alloh umringizni ziyoda qilsin.

[Sayyoh]

Arabs had practice of marrying 13-14 girls even before Islam became main religion in the region. mhm, exactly - before Islam... But Muhammad saw's proclamation as the final messanger has put an end to many atrocities, including burying young girls alive. (btw, the use of word "even" here suggests that the practice has been only stepped up with the advent of Islam)

If you want any proof, go and read some books about that period. Excuse me, I forgot to bring scanned pages of books I read in junior high and attached them here so you could see some facts. junior high nima degani? :rolleyes: (and, btw, mind the use of tenses)

I didn't state that Muhammad had sex with his young wife. how the f else am I supposed to understand this => "One of the Prophet Muhammad's wives was 13 or 14 years old on the day of the marriage. It was common practice to marry 13 years old girl and have sex with her."

If you are saying that you didn't really mean to imply the "have sex with her" part, well, then you are supposed to clearly articulate your intentions;)

But it was common practice and it has nothing to do with your religion. MY religion?.. May I ask you as to your religious beliefs? I mean do you follow my signature or prefer going to church? It's important, since based on that I shall be formulating (and clearly articulating) what I am trying to say;)

If I say that only sick people can marry four women, will I offend your religious views? If you say "Yes, you offended me, cuz Islam allows men to marry as much as (as MANY as :rolleyes: )4 wives", then Christians on this forum should ask moderators to warn you Christianity says that marriage could be between one man and one woman. Nah, you won't offend me (and, btw, make me believe you are out of the fold of Islam) cuz only sick people can say what you said:D Christians can go ahead and ask Alouddin to warn me but as long as I don't say "sick people only can have marriage between only one man and only one woman" they won't be able to do so ;) You know, even if I do go ahead and say "Islam allows (!) polygamic marriages" Christians wouldn't be able to request Alouddin to warn me, since I am saying "allows" and not "requires" or "teaches that only sick (!) people marry only one woman" :lol:

It's not (a) religious matter, but moral. Nah, I still think that having a nikaah before having sex with your spouse is still a religious matter :D

Ask yourself such question as: Being commodity seller, did Muhammad ever cheat in business? Nope, he never did. And that's why he [saw] gets his Al-Amin [the reliable, the trustworthy] nickname :D

Did he ever slap his wives? Nope, he [saw] never did, for his wives knew who he [saw] was and never made him angry enough to beat them :D

What he done as a person has nothing to do with what he done as a Prophet. did you read this in your junior high school text-books? (and, btw, mind the use of the auxiliary verb 'to have' in perfect tenses)

P.S. You can go and rat me out to moderators, I don't care.
they keep an open and close eye on the whole forum all the time, no worries kiddo

p/s o'zbekcha gapiraversak ham bo'ladimi?..

Sayyoh the Piligrimus wohahahaha

[Dilshodius]

Initially I decided not reply on your last post, because it seems you getting frustrated with me and losing your point. But then I choose to reply because you asked me some questions and it would be impolite of me not to give you some response.

junior high nima degani? https://mail.berea.edu/exchweb/img/clear1x1.gif (and, btw, mind the use of tenses)

Elementary school => Junior High => High School

As far as my grammar is concerned, if it makes you feel better, then yes, I do make mistakes. Limited time, i.e. no time for proofreading.

how the f else am I supposed to understand this => "One of the Prophet Muhammad's wives was 13 or 14 years old on the day of the marriage. It was common practice to marry 13 years old girl and have sex with her."

If you are saying that you didn't really mean to imply the "have sex with her" part, well, then you are supposed to clearly articulate your intentionshttps://mail.berea.edu/exchweb/img/clear1x1.gif

Yes, I did imply, but didn't state c'uz I don't know for sure.

MY religion?.. May I ask you as to your religious beliefs? I mean do you follow my signature or prefer going to church? It's important, since based on that I shall be formulating (and clearly articulating) what I am trying to sayhttps://mail.berea.edu/exchweb/img/clear1x1.gif

I'm Muslim, by birth. I go neither to church nor mosque. I don't like religious preaks and can't stand those who trying to preach about life in religious terms. I personally think that religion is and had been a political instrument and all-powerful people use/used it for their own purposes. Why do you think Arab tribe leaders allowed Muhammad to spread Islam religion over their territory? They used Islam to gather all Arab tribes who were in the state of vendetta at that particular time to start their invasion to Central Asia and other regions. They say that religion will help to forgive your sins if you go to church or mosque. Religious people say one wouldn't get into hell if he obeys the rules created by "holy" people. I knew some people back at home who were committing immoral acts and then, every Friday, they went to mosque for clemency.

One don't need to shout on the right and on the left that he lives by God's rules, that s/he is Muslim and proud to be one. One has to be true to himself, know what is right and what is wrong, i.e having some sense of ethics.

Nah, you won't offend me (and, btw, make me believe you are out of the fold of Islam) cuz only sick people can say what you saidhttps://mail.berea.edu/exchweb/img/clear1x1.gif Christians can go ahead and ask Alouddin to warn me but as long as I don't say "sick people only can have marriage between only one man and only one woman" they won't be able to do so https://mail.berea.edu/exchweb/img/clear1x1.gif You know, even if I do go ahead and say "Islam allows (!) polygamic marriages" Christians wouldn't be able to request Alouddin to warn me, since I am saying "allows" and not "requires" or "teaches that only sick (!) people marry only one woman" https://mail.berea.edu/exchweb/img/clear1x1.gif


Buncha of crap. Ignored.


Nah, I still think that having a nikaah before having sex with your spouse is still a religious matter https://mail.berea.edu/exchweb/img/clear1x1.gif


F***** Jesus Christ... Did I tell anything, I repeat, anything about sex before the wedding

It seems like you trying to speak out something that is on your mind, the issue that is really important to you, and, I guess, you thought it is a right moment and right place.


Nope, he never did. And that's why he [saw] gets his Al-Amin [the reliable, the trustworthy] nickname https://mail.berea.edu/exchweb/img/clear1x1.gif

Nope, he [saw] never did, for his wives knew who he [saw] was and never made him angry enough to beat them https://mail.berea.edu/exchweb/img/clear1x1.gif


You cannot say that for sure, as much as I cannot say that Muhamad precisely commited acts of pedophilia.

did you read this in your junior high school text-books? (and, btw, mind the use of the auxiliary verb 'to have' in perfect tenses)

Life. Get some.


they keep an open and close eye on the whole forum all the time, no worries kiddo


I don't seem worried. I'm cool with it.

p/s o'zbekcha gapiraversak ham bo'ladimi?..

I speak language that I'm more comfartable with. And it is not Uzbek, unfortunatelly.

Sayyoh the Piligrimus wohahahaha

HeH. There you go, the daughter of Allah. :o

P.S. Can you check my grammar and spelling cuz I have no willingness to do it myself.
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[illusion]

LMAO and LMAO once again!
Guys, how many times have we gone through this topic? Come on now, no one knows for SURE what our dear prophet has done during his life time. So we cannot make any statements based on some unreliable sources.
I agree with both of you. Dilshodius is right in some way and Sayyoh in other.

Dilshodius, I really do enjoy reading your posts and I think your English is perfect. Usually, I ignore stupid comments left by some "intelligent" majority of our forum. So here you go!:)

Sayyoh aka, siz mabodo Ingliz tili o'qituvchisi emasmisiz-a? "Auxiliary verb" gapingiz mani o'ldirdi-de;) You are attacking him by mentioning his small grammar mistakes, which are not so important in this arguement...Come on now...

[Sayyoh]

I'm Muslim, by birth. I go neither to church nor mosque. boshqa savol yo'q Sizga ;)

illusion, aha, domla-man man =)

prosto bu qichu bolani tanlagan tilida evlay yozolmayotganiga yengilgina (!) sha'ma qip qo'ydim-de :)

a tak postimni boshtan oxir o'qipsiz =)

Dilshodius, I really do enjoy reading your posts and I think your English is perfect. Usually, I ignore stupid comments left by some "intelligent" majority of our forum. So here you go! Dilshod, u now must click the thank you button after this. hehe

[Zamon]

Dilshodius totally agree! i mean about political instrument, same thing with christianity, Roman Empire decided made Christianity main relegion so later they can keep the empire and maybe take over more lands. I always say that Relegion its personal, kinda intimate things, between YOU and ALLAH (GOD) respect all prophets-messengers, but no need to go to every corner and yale everyone about the Relegion. Do not kill, do not steal, do not do adultery, respect parents, women, children, be patience......to do all those good things don't mean that you must go to church or mosque, or even be relegious, its commonly accepted rules, depend on presons moral values. In Texas where almost every american go to Church in Sunday morning, keep talking about Love of Jesus but same time this state gave more death penalty to prisoners then any other state. Or in Church they bless American military pilot or soldier ( we support our troops yeahhaa!!!) and those soldiers go to Iraq and kill children, women, men, bomb schools, houses....(fight with "terrorism") I am sure before go to killin those soldiers ask Jesus help them or save them. Same things with radical muslim fundementalists, simpy go to somewhere in subway or shop blow himself........Every relegion under heavy political agenda. Some BASTARDS and son of the B$#ches sit somewhere top and play with people faith, from the both sides.



about Michael Jackson, i hope its not true that he is muslim, this pedophile must be in prison.

[Martingale]

Как вы думаете, даже если он станет/стал мусульманином будет ли он по-прежнему хватать себя меж ног когда танцует? :lol: Противоречит ли этот его "танцевальный элемент" принципам Ислама?

http://flagpole.com/images/jpgs/2005/12/14/hipmamma-michaeljackson.jpghttp://flagpole.com/xxx.gifhttp://flagpole.com/xxx.gifhttp://flagpole.com/xxx.gifDid you mean like this?:D

[Dilshodius]

illusion, aha, domla-man man =)

Are you a stutterer? :) Man... man...

prosto bu qichu bolani tanlagan tilida evlay yozolmayotganiga yengilgina (!) sha'ma qip qo'ydim-de :)

I hope you feel being less pathetic now...

a tak postimni boshtan oxir o'qipsiz =)

You think it's worth it? =)

Dilshod, u now must click the thank you button after this. hehe


I did.


P.S. I honestly think that illusion as a reasonable and intelligent person gave her unbiased opinion about both of us. She either favored you or me. So, take it easy.

[Sayyoh]

ahmoqqa eng yahshi javob - sukut ;)

pax vobiscum

P.S. I honestly think that illusion as a reasonable and intelligent person gave her unbiased opinion about both of us. She either favored you or me. So, take it easy. mhm, she's the coolest ever. hehe

[Royal]

Майкл Джексон собирается стать мусульманином?

Брат Майкла Джексона сообщил британскому ежемесячному изданию "Муслим ньюс" о том, что поп-звезда, возможно, сменит вероисповедание. Не исключено, что артист, прославившейся знаменитой "лунной походкой", примет ислам.

Джермен стал мусульманином еще в 1989 году, сообщает РИА "Новости". По его словам, в последнее время король поп-музыки очень интересуется исламом и читает много религиозной литературы.

http://www.rambler.ru/news/images/news/2007/02/24/1172343181_04024.250x250.jpg

"Вполне вероятно, что Майкл перейдет в ислам. Я привез брату из Мекки много книг. Он ознакомился с ними и стал расспрашивать меня об этой религии", - рассказал Джермен.

В 2005 году во время судебного процесса, связанного с обвинениями в совращении малолетних, певец пользовался услугами телохранителей одной из американских военизированных группировок "Народ ислама".

[Black]

Bu Maykl nechi marta Musulmon bo'ladi o'zi? 1990 yillarda "Lenin uchquni" degan gazeta bo'lardi, o'shanda yozib chiqishgan edi "M. Jekson musulmon" deb. Adashmasam o'zining "gaplari" ham bor edi "musulmon bo'lganligi" haqida. Juda jonga tegdi da shu Maykl ham, 20 yildan beri har yilda bir marta Islomni "qabul qiladi".

[Vector]

Bu Maykl nechi marta Musulmon bo'ladi o'zi? 1990 yillarda "Lenin uchquni" degan gazeta bo'lardi, o'shanda yozib chiqishgan edi "M. Jekson musulmon" deb. Adashmasam o'zining "gaplari" ham bor edi "musulmon bo'lganligi" haqida. Juda jonga tegdi da shu Maykl ham, 20 yildan beri har yilda bir marta Islomni "qabul qiladi".

:lol: haqqatan, rosa gapirishadi musilmon boldi deb...nechi martta musilmon bolish mumkin ozi :lol:

[infolife]

Bu Maykl nechi marta Musulmon bo'ladi o'zi? 1990 yillarda "Lenin uchquni" degan gazeta bo'lardi, o'shanda yozib chiqishgan edi "M. Jekson musulmon" deb. Adashmasam o'zining "gaplari" ham bor edi "musulmon bo'lganligi" haqida. Juda jonga tegdi da shu Maykl ham, 20 yildan beri har yilda bir marta Islomni "qabul qiladi".

bechara Bahrainda machit qurdiryatgan bolsa terrorismni fund qilyapti deb qamab yuborishlaridan qorqib bu US intellegenciasini shubhada qoldirish uchun har yili boshqatan musulmon bolyatkandurda:lol:

[NifTy-Nix]

Agar musulmon bo'lsa, mashalloh, bu juda ham yahshi habar. Biz uning uchun juda hursand bo'lishimiz kere. Agar bo'lmasa, unda Allohdan unga iymon tilab qolishimiz kere. A uni oldin nima qilgani bizni qiziqtirmasligi kerak. Har holda islomni qabul qilgan odamning oldingi barcha gunohlari kechiriladi diyilgan. Alloh kechirsa, bandasi o'z holicha boshqa birovlarni ayblashga haqqi yo'q.

Kimning nima dinga etiqod qilishi o'ziga havola, din erkinligini hurmat qilishimiz kerak. Bu forumda bekordan bekor bir birimizga tosh otmasak yahshi bo'lardi, har holda bir mamlakat farzandlarimiz.

Hammaga sog'liq tilab

[Gareeb]

Alloh hidoyat bersin