Ruslan Sharipov = crybaby

[krokobazuka]

Руслан Шарипов > "Журналистское счастье": право на свободную смерть?
13:42 21.12.2005
"Да, нередко люди должны переступить через множество барьеров, преодолеть самих себя, прежде чем решиться сделать то, что ранее казалось невозможным. Люди по-разному покидают этот мир, для многих уход превращается в жесточайшую пытку."

Проигранная победа. Год спустя

Прошло 14 месяцев со времени моего приезда в США.

Покидая Узбекистан после неоднократных нападений, угроз физической расправы и повторного заключения за решетку, я надеялся продолжить журналистскую и правозащитную деятельность за пределами республики.

Надежды таяли на глазах.

Жить, чтобы "выжить"

Одновременно я продолжал искать любую работу.

http://centrasia.org/news2.php4?st=1135161720

This proves:

1. He is a crybaby
2. Lazy @ss who can't find a job in US. People with no english no connection come to US and get their lives together
3. Unprofessional
4. Can't learn new skills (or educate himself) to find a real job
5. Worth nothing as a journalist.

Trust me, I don't agree with everything that is happening at home and with some policies of the government. Yet, this guy has never had my respect as a journalist or human rights activist. A mere crybaby and wannabe. This is a reality check for him.

Now blast me all you want for being heartless ;)

[Zamon]

So many mexicans dont speak in English and dont even have Social Security works in Constructions, Hotels, Resturants and etc. And it is nothin to do with his SSN number. He is legally staying in USA. Надо же опустится до такой степени и написать про это. Если есть специальность и опыть работы то можно найти работу. Ведь люди работают двух работах. Не думаю что Американские СМИ его примут на работу как журналист. Абсолютно ноль! то что написать Каримов Диктатор и Менты сволочи может любой. Такой "журналист знаменитый" почему не пошел работать радио Свобода или Голос Америки? таких как он называют LOOSER вот и докозал. После скандала с "мальчиками" у меня отврашение этому "Борцу за Свободу". Видимо Это ему Аллах отвечает за то как он поступил.

[UzLand]

Надеюсь, это не было его последним письмом отчаянья. Руслан, прислушайся к советам многих здесь и попробуй изменить свою жизнь.

[PainKiller]

Ёзнинг жазирамасида, колингизга кетмонни тутказиб, узбек пахтакорлари пахта тераётган далага хайдагим келиб кетти. Канакa уятсиз одамсиз, Руслан ака?
Нималар деб валдираб ётибсиз?! Эркак кишига "депрессияга тушиб икки хафта краватдан турмай ётдим" дейиш ярашмасакан. Ха, икки хафта ётмасдан, сал туриб, иш кидирмабсиз-да, яхши йигит.:?

[stanford]

1. He is a crybaby
2. Lazy @ss who can't find a job in US. People with no english no connection come to US and get their lives together
3. Unprofessional
4. Can't learn new skills (or educate himself) to find a real job
5. Worth nothing as a journalist.


Don't you have anything to post rather than criticizing somebody's personal life?? Do not mistake me , your self-opinion leading to personality which I think we should avoid.

[PainKiller]

Don't you have anything to post rather than criticizing somebody's personal life?? Do not mistake me , your self-opinion leading to personality which I think we should avoid.I wish I were such a good person, stanford. :(

[krokobazuka]

Don't you have anything to post rather than criticizing somebody's personal life?? Do not mistake me , your self-opinion leading to personality which I think we should avoid.

Stanford,

First of all, I do have a lot of things to do in my life other than trolling on the message board. In fact, if you count my post totals, they are not nearly as yours. Besides, I bet you can hardly find my posts in sections other than Uzb problems, Main or Sports. In fact, unlike other people, I don't post in sections "Между нами девушками", which does get more personal than my post.

Secondly, the Ruslan Sharipov issue is relevant in Uzb problems section. FYI, this guy has been whining since he got kicked out of Umid program. After that he desided to avenge the whole system. I don't want to get into history of this thing, but I believe, that his last article reveals the true face of "freedom fighter" as a weak-ass, whining crybaby who given his status in the USA can't get his life together and complains... And this is the person who claimed himself to be a president of some kind of independent journalist association in Uzbekistan... Are these the kinds of leaders we need? Thanks, but no thanks.

[stanford]

Krokobazuka,

Why do you need to examine his personal life? May be it is his life problem, failure but should we cut like a knife making a person embarrassed and degraded. If the answer is yes, then welcome to the human race. There were several discussions about his experience as a journalist,we tried to refute him when it was necessary,argued but this and my post numbers do not mean that you can insult a person directly attacking his personality.It was not an argument thread dude, it is clear laugh-at-person thread. I don’t understand how can you relate a hostily toward another person as a pretext for posting on Uzbekistan problems board. Good people have good arguments, informations on politics,news, education,technology and etc. to discuss and share, they always try to make interesting threads, posts rather than argue over someone’s personality. Personal related threads are almost always a tactic used by those who lack appropriate human sense and have hostility.

[PainKiller]

I always say, Everything is about the intentions. And if the intention from this thread was to laugh at Ruslan and to put him down, I belive it was not the best idea.
I did not like the article either, maybe u had the same reaction readin it like I did. But What I feel, whether I like it or not-My personal Opinion, and my PROBLEM.
IF you want to be a professional and tell us that Ruslan Sharipov is not the best journalist, you should remove personal references and talk about him as about the journalist. At the end, neither u nor me are Judges.
PS. Do u remember the army story in Umidie's Camp when u did not sign that paper? Do u think It will be nice of me If I will(hell knows why) open a thread about that? I believe, that will be one of the nastiest things I've ever done, so I will not.

[krokobazuka]

Krokobazuka,

Why do you need to examine his personal life? May be it is his life problem, failure but should we cut like a knife making a person embarrassed and degraded. If the answer is yes, then welcome to the human race. There were several discussions about his experience as a journalist,we tried to refute him when it was necessary,argued but this and my post numbers do not mean that you can insult a person directly attacking his personality.It was not an argument thread dude, it is clear laugh-at-person thread. I don’t understand how can you relate a hostily toward another person as a pretext for posting on Uzbekistan problems board. Good people have good arguments, informations on politics,news, education,technology and etc. to discuss and share, they always try to make interesting threads, posts rather than argue over someone’s personality. Personal related threads are almost always a tactic used by those who lack appropriate human sense and have hostility.


Ok let me try to address each of your concern

Why do we need to discuss someone personal life?

Hopefully you do agree that public persons are subject of personality asssessment. The reason is that public persona's action / attitude does have an impact on how things are done/going in society.

I know that RS is no G.Bush or a public figure of this nature. However, he was a subject of big public scrutiny. Name another Umid program participant whose speaches/actions have made as much buzz as RS's?

If it only his sole problem, why is his article published in centrasia.org, a leading news site for the region? In fact, the article was not published under someone's initiative, but only after his initiative.

Why am I giving my personal opinion on this person? Well, in fact many of you give your personal opinion about other public figures, so why can't I? Personal opinions are part of any statement. RS had an opinion according to which if you are not on his way of thinking about HR and government in Uzb then you are government's kiss ass.

About my intent - the intend was not to embarass him or hurt him. I don't give rats ass if he is hurt or not, because I already formed an opinion of a lowlife about him and that will hardly change. My intent was to show that big words must be supported by big actions. There are so many oppositioners on this board trying to stab a knife at every opportunity on the current regime - yet, as life goes on, it shows that when opportunity bell rings these people aren't capable of any action. And RS is merely an example of it. So, no, once again, it is not a laugh-at-person thread, it is simply be-consistent or "выше-головы-не-прыгай" thread.

Lastly, the quality of posts is not dependent on what you have copy pasted from the internet. Just because someone discusses every thread here does not mean that person truly cares about Uzbekistan. Believe me, a lot of us can share a lot about their experiences, talk about politics / economics in Uzbekistan to much further extend that average poster, but choose not to for various reasons. And trust me, they do care and actually do a lot for Uzbekistan.

PS Regarding the post numbers, you are the first one to be interested about my life isn't it?
PPS Inco who are you referring to btw?

[krokobazuka]

I always say, Everything is about the intentions. And if the intention from this thread was to laugh at Ruslan and to put him down, I belive it was not the best idea.
Answered.

I did not like the article either, maybe u had the same reaction readin it like I did. But What I feel, whether I like it or not-My personal Opinion, and my PROBLEM

You have given your personal opnion about other people, what makes RS so different? Why is he untouchable? The reason he is my problem is that he has a message/cause which directly or indirectly affect my life.

IF you want to be a professional and tell us that Ruslan Sharipov is not the best journalist, you should remove personal references and talk about him as about the journalist. At the end, neither u nor me are Judges.

People are judges when it comes to public figures. RS was a public figure because he had a message and intend, he was calling people to join his cause. And people to whom he addressses are the ones to judge his call/personality.

May be my answer was not a professional, but I never claimed to be one. I haven't (yet :) ) attempted to call for my public cause, and if I ever decide to do so, believe me, I will try to do it professionally. And then you can talk about my professionalism. Until then, I am just an ordinary young man from Uzbekistan :)

PS. Do u remember the army story in Umidie's Camp when u did not sign that paper? Do u think It will be nice of me If I will(hell knows why) open a thread about that? I believe, that will be one of the nastiest things I've ever done, so I will not.

??? remind me through private message what are you exactly talking about?

[PainKiller]

Kroka, ma point was, As A Journalist, Ruslan Sharipov Sucks big time. Should I Evaluate his personal life as well, or is it not my business as nobody's elses? Just be honest. No nessessary I love him:D

[krokobazuka]

Agreed partially. Private life shouldn't be discussed unless that person is a public figure. In your or my case, we aren't stating any case or calling others to join our cause. This is not the case with RS. Same goes to any politician/public figure. Secondly, RS was the one to bring up his troubles - it wasn't I or you who privately talked to him and then wrote up this article.

Anyways, I don't want to discuss this issue anymore with anyone :) I stated the reason for my remarks and I stand firm ;) If you disagree it is your right which I truly respect :)

Happy holidays :)

[PainKiller]

Private life shouldn't be discussed unless that person is a public figure. What do u think about Levinsky and Ex-President's case?:D
Mne pochemu-to, prosto stalo interesno. Do ur views apply for Klinton and Levinsky crap as well?

[orxan]

Ruslan, did u try to apply for welfare? i know it's not much, but it helps. millions of ppl in New York are on welfare, and they enjoy their lives so far.

[Delf]

This proves:

1. He is a crybaby
2. Lazy @ss who can't find a job in US. People with no english no connection come to US and get their lives together
3. Unprofessional
4. Can't learn new skills (or educate himself) to find a real job
5. Worth nothing as a journalist.

Trust me, I don't agree with everything that is happening at home and with some policies of the government. Yet, this guy has never had my respect as a journalist or human rights activist. A mere crybaby and wannabe. This is a reality check for him.

Now blast me all you want for being heartless ;)
Or maybe he is in deep depression after what happened to him in Uzbekistan. He probably tried to cope with that and has not succeeded so far.

It may take some time for him to rehabilitate fully and I hope he will get his life going.

Remember, he was an Umidie, he was talented, active, honest and professional journalist who performed his duty and you have no rights to call him crybaby. Yes, he is probably in a very difficult situation currently, but it only means that he needs help and not your sarcasm.


Delf.

[Delf]

When the turn to came to Uzbeks, God asked them: "What would you ask for?".

And Uzbeks said: "Two sticks".

God asked: "Why?"

Uzbeks answered: "Bir birimizni #!$%zni kovlash uchun".

[bacha]

Our brave moderators stick their ****ing noses into every hole possible, but dumbasses do not understand that these kinds of topics should not exist. What a stupid bunch of idiots!

[krokobazuka]

What do u think about Levinsky and Ex-President's case?:D
Mne pochemu-to, prosto stalo interesno. Do ur views apply for Klinton and Levinsky crap as well?

Yes :)
May be I am bit conservative, but I think the president of the most powerful country in the world shouldn't become a subject of interrogation on his sexual adventures....

A esli nemnogo shutya, agar nalevo yursa, nalevo yurishni eplasin ;) (ko mne eto nikakogo otnosheniya ne imeyet ;) :) :) )

[Akhee-Abdullah]

When the turn to came to Uzbeks, God asked them: "What would you ask for?".

And Uzbeks said: "Two sticks".

God asked: "Why?"

Uzbeks answered: "Bir birimizni #!$%zni kovlash uchun".

So u were there? I mean, did you really ask for the "2 dona gugirt chopi?" Or were you standing by? I mean, as far as I know U r an Uzbek, that's the reason I am assuming and asking if it was you who asked for the "gugurt choplarri"...I mean was that @$$hole you? Please, no offence, I am trying to understand the joke : )

I just wonder, why did not you ask for the whole pack of it? Kezi kelganda, hich odam topilmasa ozizniam : ) yurardizda botam : ) ...

Woy uzr endi, hazillashib qoydim...prosto naturede...Kopirlar (Yakkah Allahga ibodat qilmay murtad yoki mushrik bulganlar, yoki umuman U zotni inkor qilganlar) Din haqida joke etsa...sometimes they forget that the joke has moral consequences and it might relate to him as well....

Hapa bugan oris..bilaman...qaltis hazilu...ammo...ba'zan...qilib turish kk oxshiydi...

A tak hammaga soghlik, wa Ruslanjonga wonderful career in his new home!!!

Ruslan- Be Strong, insha'Alla no time passes, when you see yourself happy and successful.

Any help, please let me know in PM, I will definietly do my best to help you out whatever way I can.

[Delf]

So u were there? I mean, did you really ask for the "2 dona gugirt chopi?" Or were you standing by? I mean, as far as I know U r an Uzbek, that's the reason I am assuming and asking if it was you who asked for the "gugurt choplarri"...I mean was that @$$hole you? Please, no offence, I am trying to understand the joke : )

I just wonder, why did not you ask for the whole pack of it? Kezi kelganda, hich odam topilmasa ozizniam : ) yurardizda botam : ) ...

Woy uzr endi, hazillashib qoydim...prosto naturede...Kopirlar (Yakkah Allahga ibodat qilmay murtad yoki mushrik bulganlar, yoki umuman U zotni inkor qilganlar) Din haqida joke etsa...sometimes they forget that the joke has moral consequences and it might relate to him as well....

Hapa bugan oris..bilaman...qaltis hazilu...ammo...ba'zan...qilib turish kk oxshiydi...

A tak hammaga soghlik, wa Ruslanjonga wonderful career in his new home!!!

Ruslan- Be Strong, insha'Alla no time passes, when you see yourself happy and successful.

Any help, please let me know in PM, I will definietly do my best to help you out whatever way I can.

Man, my words were directed at Krokobazuka for his baseless bashing of Ruslan.

So I put that joke to make Krok think twice before he tries to "psychoanalyse" someone else. And proudly awarded him a warning too :)


Delf.