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migrant
01-02-2006, 11:19 AM
Dear "Turkistan Forumu" members I am interested in some issue but unfortunately can not speak and understand Turkish.
Can you please write only in English so that those who donot know Turkish and I could enjoy your ideas about the problem.
TOPIC:
WHAT FACTORS ARE DISTINGUISHING TURKEY AND OTHER NEAR-TURKISH LANGUAGE SPEAKING COUNTRIES (AZERBAYJAN, KIRZISTAN, UZBEKISTAN, TURKMENISTAN...)???
Colpan
01-02-2006, 11:24 AM
Dear "migrant",
You are free to open a topic in English, but you have no right to order us to do so.
Just make empathy. If I want you to open topics just in Turkish and add that I can not speak Uzbek, will you accept it?
We are trying to learn Uzbek but as you will agree, it is not as easy as seen. I can understand it well but I can not speak or write in it easily.
migrant
01-02-2006, 11:37 AM
Dear "migrant",
You are free to open a topic in English, but you have no right to order us to do so.
I DONOT WANT TO FORCE SOMEONE TO WRITE SOMETHING I CANT DO THIS
I ASKED TO WRITE IN ENGLISH ONLY THOSE WHO CAN DO IT AND OF CAURSE ONLY UZBEK WOULD BE DIFFICULT EVEN FOR ME.
PLZ TRY TO UNDERSTAND THIS
Just make empathy. If I want you to open topics just in Turkish and add that I can not speak Uzbek, will you accept it?
YES
We are trying to learn Uzbek but as you will agree, it is not as easy as seen. I can understand it well but I can not speak or write in it easily.
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO WRITE IN ENGLISH
Scofield
01-02-2006, 12:14 PM
WHAT FACTORS ARE DISTINGUISHING TURKEY AND OTHER NEAR-TURKISH LANGUAGE SPEAKING COUNTRIES (AZERBAYJAN, KIRZISTAN, UZBEKISTAN, TURKMENISTAN...)???[/quote]
DISTINGUISHING facts:
1.Azeri Uzbek Khrgiz and most of their language mixed with Russian...
2.Turkey's Turkish mixed with Arabic,English,French and more and more...
It's typical, it depends on the area...
By the Way, you can visit to Turkistan Forum and create English topic, whenever you want ;) we will be responding to your questions
www.turkdiaspora.org
migrant
01-02-2006, 12:20 PM
WHAT FACTORS ARE DISTINGUISHING TURKEY AND OTHER NEAR-TURKISH LANGUAGE SPEAKING COUNTRIES (AZERBAYJAN, KIRZISTAN, UZBEKISTAN, TURKMENISTAN...)???
DISTINGUISHING facts:
1.Azeri Uzbek Khrgiz and most of their language mixed with Russian...
2.Turkey's Turkish mixed with Arabic,English,French and more and more...
It's typical, it depends on the area...
By the Way, you can visit to Turkistan Forum and create English topic, whenever you want ;) we will be responding to your questions[/quote]
2nd point:
But as far as I know Azeri, Kirgiz and Uzbek languages also contain words from Arabic ? :)
Honestly, I dont know much about the other Turkic countries myself but one thing I am proud to say as a Turk who lives in Istanbul is Türkiye is the only country in the region who has achieved to be just herself.
I dont think our language has been mixed with Arabic, English or French. So, I disagree with TurkDiaspora in some way that is it is typical (as he said) that Turkish is a mixed one. But this only pertains to vocabulary, not to the language itself as a whole. If the Brits didnt have Latin words, they would not have an excellent language capable of helping depict all sides of human being's philosophical approaches and meeting the intellectual needs of a thinking individual. In this sense, Turkish is one of the most powerful languages in the world regarding with the complexity. As a comp programmer once said: "Of all the languages in the world, Turkish is the Linux while English is the Windows."
If you check out the relevant article at Wikipedia, you can get what I mean.
Other than the language issue, there's alot you may learn here that might be of any interest to you. Just keep an eye over here. Welcome to the Turkistan Forumu.
Ops. Apparently I misunderstood your question, Migrant. I thought you were asking what is distinguishing Turkiye and the other Turkic countries from the rest of the world. Sorry.
migrant
01-02-2006, 12:47 PM
Ops. Apparently I misunderstood your question, Migrant. I thought you were asking what is distinguishing Turkiye and the other Turkic countries from the rest of the world. Sorry.
OK can you answer my question since you are from Turkey you should know her very well
OK can you answer my question since you are from Turkey you should know her very well
As I said I dont know much about the other Turkic countries. Unfortunately, I didnt have the chance to meet as many people from there as to have a vast knowledge of these countries, but just a few people. I've been struggling to get to intimately know them on my own by hanging around this forum. I recommend you to do so as well.
But to have answered your questions, people of Turkiye andAzerbaijan and Gagauzia are much closer to each other compared to the other ones. Because the Turkish dialects spoken in these countries are of almost the same segment of the Turkic languages.
I cannot say I'm not so informed on this issue. I hope other users can fill you in vey well.
2nd point:
But as far as I know Azeri, Kirgiz and Uzbek languages also contain words from Arabic ? :)
Almost all Turkic languages contain Arabic words at some extent.
Scofield
01-02-2006, 02:54 PM
But as far as I know Azeri, Kirgiz and Uzbek languages also contain words from Arabic ? :)
it might be because of the Islam Religion. Lot of words entered to Turkic languages by Islam ;) this is my way to explane. And i bet there are some facts of Ottoman Empire's old Ottoman (almost like Arabic) Language
Kaptan-i Derya
01-03-2006, 08:55 AM
2nd point:
But as far as I know Azeri, Kirgiz and Uzbek languages also contain words from Arabic ? :) And many Persian words (think its the most loaned one).
Börteçine
01-03-2006, 07:19 PM
All you need is explained here.
www.turkistan.org (http://www.turkistan.org)
This site has lots of info about Turkish language.
Amiri Turkiston
01-03-2006, 08:19 PM
DISTINGUISHING FACTORS:
- Turkey are considering themselves as a big brother among other Turkish countries - but it is not good because if we can also be called as a big brother
- Uzbek / Kazahs / Kyrgyz / Turkmens have almost the same view points neither then Turkey
-Uzbek / Kazahs / Kyrgyz / Turkmens / Azerbaijans / Tatars / Naimans / Sahas - have common understanding of Russian language - that sometimes helps a lot on understanding each other - because as you know all Turkish dialects are different and sometimes it is difficult to understand each other
- Turkey are looking to joining to EU - but other Turkish countries are looking to joining with each other
Qarama
01-04-2006, 10:06 AM
And many Persian words (think its the most loaned one).
yes thats right :) for example zeytin or maymun or names like feruza firuze and so on...
I think zeytin is an Arabic word. There's a Quranic verse having that word.
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