Iran's nuclear program

[Uzbekxonim]

Do you think that international community should allow Iran to develop its nuclear program? if yes/no, why?

[Abu Hurayra]

Do you think that international community should allow Iran to develop its nuclear program? if yes/no, why?

They talk about Global security, but every of own dozen of nukes.
In order to live in peace in this world it would be better choice to get rid of nukes at all. If not Those who does not own will not feel secure in a circumstanse where everyone owns nukes, thus they must be transparent about this issue.
But it seems to be not realistic nowadays.
Iran also feels not secure so tryin to have one.
For ex:Uzb has no nuke so time by time changing his "Big Brother". Now Uzbs BIg Brother (who got nukes and etc) seems to be Russia.

I refer to this post sended by var:
Грустно все это...я в очередной раз убеждаюсь в том что все эти страны нужно оградить от ядерных технологий, современного оружия и т.д. и т.п. примерно лет на 400....так будет лучше для них самих же. :rolleyes:

related article:
"Ядерное досье" Ирана было отправлено на днях в Совбез ООН, чего и добивались американцы. Как и предполагалось, Москва «кинула» своих тегеранских друзей, проголосовав за американскую резолюцию. Что получили русские взамен своего предательства, пока не ясно.
Теперь все пойдет по наезженной дорожке. Вряд ли этот взявший на себя право судить, править и карать "совбез", давно превратившийся в частный сходняк, примет какие-либо серьезные санкции или разрешит вторгнуться американцам в Иран. Но американцам этого и не требуется, как показал пример Ирака. Они, как обычно, продемонстрируют миру свои сфальсифицированные фото "атомных ракетных установок" Ирана, сделанные с американских спутников, а сомнительные иранские диссиденты расскажут в сионистских СМИ, что они "видели" и "слышали" об атомных ракетных арсеналах Ирана.
Со своей стороны посол США в этой ООН Болтон снова начнет свои привычные разглагольствования о "несоблюдении" Ираном каких-нибудь процедур, прекрасно зная, что Иран суверенное государство и ничего соблюдать на своей собственной территории не обязан.
Западных шпионов, работающих под крышей "инспекторов МАГАТЭ", Иран допускал на объекты своего мирного атома исключительно с целью продемонстрировать добрую волю. Бонтоновскую болтовню в ООН растиражирует, как обычно, "мировая пресса". Все это уже было. Мы это видели и слышали на примере Афганистана и Ирака. А повод для войны американцы могут придумать любой, не утруждая себя соблюдением хоть какой-то правдоподобности.
После этого американцы в компании своих марионеточных союзников начнут военную агрессию против Ирана. Само собой разумеется, что американцы не в состоянии захватить и оккупировать эту страну. Но этого, по большому счету, им и не нужно. У них другие планы. Американцы собираются захватить только небольшую нефтеносную провинцию Хузестан на юго-западе страны, где добывается 90% иранской нефти, а также взять под свой контроль Ормузский пролив, чтобы блокировать Иран с моря.
Про американские планы аннексии Хузистана сейчас широко пишет незападная пресса. Так бейрутская газета Daily Star недавно сообщила: "Первым шагом американских агрессоров будет попытка оккупировать богатую нефтью иранскую провинцию Хузестан, захватить чувствительные Ормузский пролив и лишить иранские вооруженные силы нефти, заставив их пользоваться только весьма ограниченными нефтяными запасами".
США проявляют к Хузистану давний интерес. Ещё в 1980 году Саддам Хуссейн, в то время чисто американская марионетка, начал войну с Ираном по приказу США, чтобы овладеть этой богатой провинцией с численностью населения всего 3,7 миллионов человек при площади только в 62 тысячи квадратных километров (для сравнения площадь всего Ирана составляет 1648 тысяч кв. километров, то есть на долю Хузистана приходится всего 3,7% территории Ирана).
В прошлом и в этом году английские террористические группы осуществили несколько терактов именно в этой иранской провинции, в городе Ахвазе.
Захватить эту провинцию жизненно необходимым для американцев. Президент Ирана Ахмади-Нежад недавно объявил, что с марта месяца этого года Иран переходит на оплату своей нефти в евро, а не в долларах. Это приведет к резкому падению курса доллара и нанесет сильный удар по американской экономике.
По промышленности и военным установкам Ирана американцы собираются нанести бомбовые удары. Если иранцы на них ответят, например, бомбежками американских баз в Ираке или сионистского анклава в Палестине, то американцы угрожают нанести по Ирану удары атомными бомбами малой мощности, чтобы запугать Иран и все остальные страны. До США иранские ракеты не долетят. Радиус действия самых мощных из них 2500 километров. Хузестан американцы провозгласят "независимым демократическим государством", типа карзаевского Афганистана.
Таковы планы американцев. На бумаге они смотрятся очень гладко, но на деле, как показывает тотальный провал США в Ираке, новая американская агрессия только приблизит поражение Америки.
related links: http://lenta.ru/news/2006/02/06/action/
http://lenta.ru/news/2006/02/08/council/

PS: Peace !!!;)

[UzLand]

There should be consistence. The whole Middle East should be a nuclear-free zone. It means there should be made a deal. No nukes for Israel = no nukes for Iran. Why does Israel need nuclear weapons? They have conventional force and weapons enough to effectively defend themselves against their Arab enemies. Why don't IAEA inspectors visit Israel and ask it to get rid of their nuclear weapon? Israel is a de-facto nuclear power and everybody tries not to notice that. And wich such a cynicism, how can Western countries expect their ideologies and plicies to win in the Middle East? Where is the sincerety?

But I agree, Iran should NOT have a nuclear weapon.

[Royal]

here is same in own game.

Iran just trying to play in that game, but they doesn't want let Iran to this game.

If israil uses own nuke bomb against the iran - how fare is it? and possibility that rocket or plain could be shot down on the way in middle of the some where ?
and
if iran sends the nuke bomb how greater they have chance to hit the shores of israil?

But here question was regarding the NUCKLEAR Program, not the regarding the nuke weapons !?

Iran would like to have energy source, but western world are (in face of israil and as representatives of israil) couldnt afford that becouse balance in Middle East would be lost in favor of arab world - not only in military treat, but in economy as well.

[stanford]

Do you think that international community should allow Iran to develop its nuclear program? if yes/no, why?

Target Iran? (http://www.forum.uz/showthread.php?t=19821) What do you think?

[stanford]

Russian MP Says US To Attack Iran Late March

A top Russian parliamentary leader has told Ekho Moskvy radio station that an attack on Iran is inevitable and that it will occur on March 28th. The leader of the Liberal Democrats Vladimir Zhirinovsky also believes that the Muslim riots were orchestrated by the US to garner European backing for the military strike.


Source (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2006/070206attackiran.htm)

I don't believe it.

[Royal]

stanford

do you really think that us will push it israel attack to iran ? israil can not come to they self after sharon's headacke....
untill now us lost @2500 person in iraq, with iran may loose somuch in a day.
has a difference.
Iran economy build by they selves, so they have everything produced domesticly , so they would not be depending on sharon's son to sale them the weapons or any armory.
us before the iraqi campaine close (at lieast try to do that) all the loop holes, (antonov-?/taywanchik) from where may leak weapons to iraq, even they start counting the special machines was produced in Ukraine only 64? units, one was lost, but they found at last.
in iran case they have to think several dothen time and before cut the line think more to it. otherwise could get ass kicked.
world economy groups are not advising to do so, because dollar value against everything going down, loosing the value - may head to crash - they pridicting a such a thing during this couple month - could be possible: that us to hold the crush may involve they selves to this type of mess and try to control majority of energy sources - in that time they may bring the dollar value once more to previose points.

[Aziz]

America lied about the weapons of mass distruction in Iraq, we shouldn't be fooled again.

[stanford]

Royal

I think Israel will launch air strikes against Iranian nuclear facilities backed by United States.Israeli air force has successfully proven in events like "osirak" and possesses some of the best technology to make such strikes.They will use US gulf region military bases,cause skies of middle east like over Saudi arabia for example is not open for Israel.And It is not a great idea US to attack because of military operations in Iraq.US will face a lot more damage in Iraq if attacks Iran.This is what I guess and again who knows.

[ДЖИГИТ]

US military actions throughout history were hoaxes and lies, JFk assassination by americans themselves, Pearl Harbor, Vietnam war, CIA drug trafficking, 911 attack fabricated by US which served as a cornerstone in the 21st century for US invasions, though they are fake, fake Osama Bin laden tapes, after all they (CIA) could not fake his video since Osama's probable death that CIA released only audio tape, but even that tape is fake (see LooseChange 911 by Alex Jones, Truth and lies of 911, the Great Conspiracy in movies section). It is all crusade against truth, against people who follow true religion Islam. It is not surprising that tensions grew over Iran nukes, again double standards by US and its allies European countries which have nukes themselves, if it is an international regulation for nuclear non proliferation, then it must be applied to each and every country in the world but not the way that I have the right and you don't. This world and its events are presented opposite from what they really are by mass media controlled by Zionists, they show black as white and white as black. However unless every country disarms nukes, Iran and any other country is righteous of having such a weapon. But God and who follow God's path are winners! The statistics show that provided the same course of world population growth most european nations will dissappear by the end of this century because of the ratio between birth rate of muslims and european nations. Western society is declining and morally degrading but muslim nations are growing in every aspect, birth rate, social aspects and etc. Islam will dominate the world in near future because it advocates truth and peace!

[Pinkie]

I'm more nervous for the fact the United States has nuclear weapons! They used them on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, what makes you think they wont do this action again? Don't forget Israel, they have nuclear weapons but what is this business of them not admitting to it? Was Bush's warning speech about Iran's nuclear program a result from Mahmoud Amadinejad's "Israel must be wiped off the map" statement?

[Scofield]

i extremely support Iran's activities! it will be beginning of Islam's power and i bet all other Muslim countries will begin it. Please support Muslim countries Nuclear Activities

[Royal]

Royal

I think Israel will launch air strikes against Iranian nuclear facilities backed by United States.Israeli air force has successfully proven in events like "osirak" and possesses some of the best technology to make such strikes.They will use US gulf region military bases,cause skies of middle east like over Saudi arabia for example is not open for Israel.And It is not a great idea US to attack because of military operations in Iraq.US will face a lot more damage in Iraq if attacks Iran.This is what I guess and again who knows.

but situations are change with own time, same as this "carricatures" case as well, this case was done several years ago, because of Danish Government desided to finance the new Palestinian government, but that time people understand that this was israils intriques, so they did not pay attention kind of, but this time to some power would like to excalade those problems to make more "shows', all israils mass medias start screaming that they did not do anything now, israil is not to blame here, but all activities of the main show against the fawor of the israil. israil start shaking becouse of this temp of the worldwide movement, that is not easy....

irans main goal should be to talk to russia and under certain control use nuklear energy only for the peace electric energy source...;)

here You have think regarding the teritories also, how much israil have and how much iran have, so israil can bomb all th territories of the iran ?? and how many needs to israil territories ??

[Guardian]

i extremely support Iran's activities! it will be beginning of Islam's power and i bet all other Muslim countries will begin it. Please support Muslim countries Nuclear Activities
VS
http://www.forum.uz/showpost.php?p=378585&postcount=9

Beg your pardon for my curiosity ...

[Sayyoh]

The statistics show that provided the same course of world population growth most european nations will dissappear by the end of this century because of the ratio between birth rate of muslims and european nations. Western society is declining and morally degrading but muslim nations are growing in every aspect, birth rate, social aspects and etc. Islam will dominate the world in near future because it advocates truth and peace! i wish i could put this this my signature, but it's a bit too long :D

[Scofield]

VS
http://www.forum.uz/showpost.php?p=378585&postcount=9

Beg your pardon for my curiosity ...
my friend, there is something you might be interested:
http://www.forum.uz/showthread.php?t=27720
don't be surprised!

[stanford]

here You have think regarding the teritories also, how much israil have and how much iran have, so israil can bomb all th territories of the iran ?? and how many needs to israil territories ??

Israel's military forces is much smaller than that of Iran. But it is much better armed. Israel has nuclear weapons, submarines equipped with US missiles and got latest air strike weapons from US like Blu 109 bombs which can deliver nuclear warheads and buster planes which can strike Iran and return to Israel without re fuelling.

In case of attack ,it will be very very hard for Iran to stand, look at the map it is now surrounded by American forces from all sides - in the Central Asian republics to the north, Afghanistan to the east, the Gulf to the South and Iraq to the west.

Map: Iranian Nuclear Facilities

[Guardian]

I think, this is not fair, to report Iran to the UN Security Council, because Iran does not have a savage history and has been cooperating with the IAEA. Why nobody dares to report Israel to the UN security Council, although Israel got a military nuclear program. Reporting Iran will cause not only a political but also an economic crises. Furthermore, Iran can hit back in any case.

But Dr. Rice has put it: the West does not need another nuclear country in the region. Israel is enough and fits their interests.

To all those who defend USA, they should take their heads out of sand. Uncle Sam wants to bomb Iran to prevent the opening of the Iranian Oil Exchange on March 20th 2006 because if it ever goes online, the US Greenback will lose as much as 30% of its value and spell DOOM for that bubbled nation. Stop watching and reading the US medias and search the truth, it is there in front of your eyes.

[Milky_Way_NY]

I think, this is not fair, to report Iran to the UN Security Council, because Iran does not have a savage history and has been cooperating with the IAEA. Why nobody dares to report Israel to the UN security Council, although Israel got a military nuclear program. Reporting Iran will cause not only a political but also an economic crises. Furthermore, Iran can hit back in any case.

But Dr. Rice has put it: the West does not need another nuclear country in the region. Israel is enough and fits their interests.

To all those who defend USA, they should take their heads out of sand. Uncle Sam wants to bomb Iran to prevent the opening of the Iranian Oil Exchange on March 20th 2006 because if it ever goes online, the US Greenback will lose as much as 30% of its value and spell DOOM for that bubbled nation. Stop watching and reading the US medias and search the truth, it is there in front of your eyes.

I think someone must stop Iran from developing it's nuclear program. Moreover, it's is a moral obligation of a civilized world not to let an idiot A. to obtain weapons of mass distraction. Hov can we people of the earth trust an idiot A. with all this? He's te one who talks about the distraction of state of Israel, where people of all backgrounds live an equal life. (not talking about PA) ... Palestinians do not share an equal life even in Arab countries, unfortunatelly.

[UzLand]

i extremely support Iran's activities! it will be beginning of Islam's power and i bet all other Muslim countries will begin it. Please support Muslim countries Nuclear Activities

It will be Iran's power, not Islam's. Did Pakistan share it with other Muslim nations? Or did Pakistan use its nuclear weapon for helping other Muslim nations? I think Arab countries out of their hatred for Iran do not want it to have a nuclear weapon.

[Milky_Way_NY]

here is same in own game.

Iran just trying to play in that game, but they doesn't want let Iran to this game.

If israil uses own nuke bomb against the iran - how fare is it? and possibility that rocket or plain could be shot down on the way in middle of the some where ?
and
if iran sends the nuke bomb how greater they have chance to hit the shores of israil?

But here question was regarding the NUCKLEAR Program, not the regarding the nuke weapons !?

Iran would like to have energy source, but western world are (in face of israil and as representatives of israil) couldnt afford that becouse balance in Middle East would be lost in favor of arab world - not only in military treat, but in economy as well.

Iran isn't an Arab world.
Second, no one cares about Israel so much as you think they do.
If it seems that Us on the side of Israel, ii'ts only because Israel is a Democracy.

[melo]

Israel's military forces is much smaller than that of Iran. But it is much better armed. Israel has nuclear weapons, submarines equipped with US missiles and got latest air strike weapons from US like Blu 109 bombs which can deliver nuclear warheads and buster planes which can strike Iran and return to Israel without re fuelling.

In case of attack ,it will be very very hard for Iran to stand, look at the map it is now surrounded by American forces from all sides - in the Central Asian republics to the north, Afghanistan to the east, the Gulf to the South and Iraq to the west.

Map: Iranian Nuclear Facilities

I don't believe there are many American forces in Central Asia or Afghanistan ( I mean I know there are not). The US has problems with their military being spread already- I don't think they have any capability to start a new war.

[PainKiller]

Israel's military forces is much smaller than that of Iran. But it is much better armed. Israel has nuclear weapons, submarines equipped with US missiles and got latest air strike weapons from US like Blu 109 bombs which can deliver nuclear warheads and buster planes which can strike Iran and return to Israel without re fuelling.

In case of attack ,it will be very very hard for Iran to stand, look at the map it is now surrounded by American forces from all sides - in the Central Asian republics to the north, Afghanistan to the east, the Gulf to the South and Iraq to the west.

Map: Iranian Nuclear FacilitiesComparing Iran and Israel does not even make sense. Israel can kick the whole arab world's ass in short period of time. I am sorry to sayt that, but who can argue with this? Healthy arguments only, please.

[Uzbekxonim]

i extremely support Iran's activities! it will be beginning of Islam's power and i bet all other Muslim countries will begin it. Please support Muslim countries Nuclear Activities

Don't you think that after getting nuclear power Muslim countries will come to the idea that they should dominate in the world and another predatory war will begin?

[Uzbekxonim]

Israel's military forces is much smaller than that of Iran. But it is much better armed. Israel has nuclear weapons, submarines equipped with US missiles and got latest air strike weapons from US like Blu 109 bombs which can deliver nuclear warheads and buster planes which can strike Iran and return to Israel without re fuelling.

In case of attack ,it will be very very hard for Iran to stand, look at the map it is now surrounded by American forces from all sides - in the Central Asian republics to the north, Afghanistan to the east, the Gulf to the South and Iraq to the west.

Map: Iranian Nuclear Facilities

i'm sure that in case of attack all other Muslim (mostly developed arabic countries) will help Iran.

[Uzbekxonim]

I think, this is not fair, to report Iran to the UN Security Council, because Iran does not have a savage history and has been cooperating with the IAEA. Why nobody dares to report Israel to the UN security Council, although Israel got a military nuclear program. Reporting Iran will cause not only a political but also an economic crises. Furthermore, Iran can hit back in any case.


just to remind you: US is one of the permanent members of UN, nobody would dare to report and if smb does it will stay as it is - just a report and no further actions on that.

[Abu Hurayra]

Here I just wanted to quote one statement from below showed link:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/HB07Ak03.html

How is it that nobody in the European free press is talking much about the fact that Iran stopped any further discussion of its nuclear program because the three EU leaders who were parleying with them reneged on their side of the bargain, by not ensuring Iran security in the event of a foreign invasion? ".

PS:The smell of Nuke war is coming from somewhere...:rolleyes: :(

Peace!!!

[Uzbekxonim]

It will be Iran's power, not Islam's. Did Pakistan share it with other Muslim nations? Or did Pakistan use its nuclear weapon for helping other Muslim nations? I think Arab countries out of their hatred for Iran do not want it to have a nuclear weapon.

believe me in a situation as this (after danish cartoons) the whole Muslim world is angry, the ONE enemy can unite all anemies (Allian vs Predator: my enemy's enemy is my friend)

[Scofield]

It will be Iran's power, not Islam's. Did Pakistan share it with other Muslim nations? Or did Pakistan use its nuclear weapon for helping other Muslim nations? I think Arab countries out of their hatred for Iran do not want it to have a nuclear weapon.
They don't share because of Turkish Government is Pro-Western su*kers, Pakistan is almost allied with USA and soon with Israel. Iran is more pro-Russian and they always say "Muslim nations don't have to be worried, we'll never use our power against them". It proves a connection between muslim nations.
Egypt is also allied with western and Israel.
After all, i see that Russia is one of the Islam's defender as Christian Super Power.
Some of Muslim Nations are allied with west, some others allied with each others, some of them with eastern or Russia.

If Iran begins, why can't we all begin nuclear power? Don't we have right to defence our terrority?

Well, if somebody rejects this idea, it means he/she is pro-western or it's own citizen.

Don't you think that after getting nuclear power Muslim countries will come to the idea that they should dominate in the world and another predatory war will begin?

Well, tell this yada yada to USA, France, Sweden and Israel (actually, also their allies). If they have, we must have too...

If you, your kind or western don't want muslim nations to be armed with nuclear power, they also have disarm.

it must be 50-50. or 0-0

[UzLand]

believe me in a situation as this (after danish cartoons) the whole Muslim world is angry, the ONE enemy can unite all anemies (Allian vs Predator: my enemy's enemy is my friend)

I advise you not to be a hostage to such a euphoria. The recent history has seen many such cases in which excitement and quick anger seemed to unite Muslims, but produced little results. So this case will calm down too. Believe me. As long as most Muslims societies do not reform themselves, all we have to keep in this fast developing world will be our anger and inability to counter.

The Muslim wealth - oil and other resources should be spent on education, science, advanced technologies and improvement of economic lives rather than on Rolls Royces, palaces, casinos and the like.

[UzLand]

Иван Васильевич айтганларидай "Алавурсин, алавурсин, камейиб коларканми?:)

[Uzbekxonim]

If you, your kind or western don't want muslim nations to be armed with nuclear power, they also have disarm.

it must be 50-50. or 0-0

agree with underlined.

[Scofield]

agree with underlined.
thank you, that's the final point which i meantioned. ;)

[PALESTINE]

It will be Iran's power, not Islam's. Did Pakistan share it with other Muslim nations? Or did Pakistan use its nuclear weapon for helping other Muslim nations? I think Arab countries out of their hatred for Iran do not want it to have a nuclear weapon.
helo dear friend,
however, you must know too things,
1- am an arab man, and know that arabs like there muslim brothers, if were iranians, turks ... etc, and please dont beleive what some parts say about us .

2- if any want to make islamic or humanity justice development, i will be his soldier, who ever he was

3- islamic brotherhood -in my openion and how it must be- over any other consideration ...

about what (TURK DIASPORA) said about muslim rights in having nuclear resources as others , i dont take that in absolute beleive, as i dont know if he is amuslim first or not (he said about him self as christian catholic) how ever, that still his own openion if one said yes or no!

regards

[UzLand]

1- am an arab man, and know that arabs like there muslim brothers, if were iranians, turks ... etc, and please dont beleive what some parts say about us.

One Arab man can't speak for all Arab men, but Arab's negative attitude towards Iranians I've heard so many times from so many Arabs. So no use to try to convince otherwise.

[Uzbekxonim]

2- if any want to make islamic or humanity justice development, i will be his soldier, who ever he was


ssory to intefere your dialogue.
could you make more clear the above sentence of yours? 'cos after considering it for a while i came to conlusion that you would go against anyone with war ('soldier' as you mentioned) just to restore islamic or humanity justice, is it right?

[PALESTINE]

One Arab man can't speak for all Arab men.
i dont say in arabs name, but describe there state as one of them, and my previous result still right in my openion, although you concluded the contrary, and have the evidence too ...

but Arab's negative attitude towards Iranians I've heard so many times from so many Arabs. So no use to try to convince otherwise.
about problems with iran, here they are,
1- problems of saddam, and you cant account arabs by falses of that dictator

2- problems of borders in the region called by -AHWAZ- and such problems couldnt be sorted just as (arab-iranian), as you can see also (arab-arab) problems on borders, as you can see between -saudi/yaman- , also
-sudan/egypt-, and such problems also can be found all around the world ...

3- the main problems comes from beleivings of shiaa, and such problems can be founded also with arab shiaa's them selves, as in lebanon and iraq

AS YOU SEE, NO THING AGAINST IRAN FOR ITS IRANIAN NATURE ...

dont forget also some hard friendship between iran and several arab countries as syria for example, and also dont forget that arabs blessed islamic revolution made by -khumini- in its time as an islamic revolution against dictator -shahin shah rida fahlawi-, but after that every thing been changed as this revolution was just to make -iranian cumhuriyyet- not more...

please, arabs, iranians, turks are brothers under the true meaning of islam what ever others told you, as islamic relationship is above arabic relationship and that is the most important ...

[MUHLIS]

Иван Васильевич айтганларидай "Алавурсин, алавурсин, камейиб коларканми?:)
Bu o'sha "Yo'q-Yo'q, men bunday tarihiy hujjatlarga imzo chekolmayman" deb oxiri "Vaqtincha shoh vazifasini bajaruvchi Bunsha" deb qo'l qo'ygan odamning gaplarimi?
Ko'rdingizmi mansab odamni qanday buzib yuborar ekan. :)
Lekin avatarni menga bersangiz bo'lar ekan.

[PALESTINE]

ssory ... i came to conlusion that you would go against anyone with war ('soldier' as you mentioned) just to restore islamic or humanity justice, is it right?
dear sister,
-soldier- in english may used just for armory use, but i meant its translation from my arabic tongue, that includes other fields to this meaning, e.g we call student or scientist as -soldier of science-

am from that type of persons who beleive in using deplomacy
simoltanuosly with army, side by side in order to give others there rights, and take my rights from others, not accept to be aweak side either in deplomacy or armory force between powers which use several scales towards different human sorts ...

lets say, use the suitable language with the suitable person or side for the suitable occasion in its suitable time ...

and please correct your sentence (against any one with war !!!), as am not the suitable person for such language, also from the wrongness to take one way used towards all ...

regards .

[Uzbekxonim]

dear sister,
-soldier- in english may used just for armory use, but i meant its translation from my arabic tongue, that includes other fields to this meaning, e.g we call student or scientist as -soldier of science-

am from that type of persons who beleive in using deplomacy
simoltanuosly with army, side by side in order to give others there rights, and take my rights from others, not accept to be aweak side either in deplomacy or armory force between powers which use several scales towards different human sorts ...

lets say, use the suitable language with the suitable person or side for the suitable occasion in its suitable time ...

and please correct your sentence (against any one with war !!!), as am not the suitable person for such language, also from the wrongness to take one way used towards all ...

regards .

ssory if i misunderstood you. just be carefull with your words.

[UzLand]

Lekin avatarni menga bersangiz bo'lar ekan.

Алавуринг, алавуринг, камейиб коларканми?:lol:

[Martingale]

Алавуринг, алавуринг, камейиб коларканми?:lol:

:lol:

p.s. Uzland aka, hozir sizga warning berishadi?

What can you say "home rules":)

[UzLand]

:lol:

p.s. Uzland aka, hozir sizga warning berishadi?

What can you say "home rules":)

Типун тебе на язык, дейишармиди?:) Бир узим warning билан юрмайин, дебсизда-а?:)

[Royal]

Don't you think that after getting nuclear power Muslim countries will come to the idea that they should dominate in the world and another predatory war will begin?
calculations are in progress...
i'm sure that in case of attack all other Muslim (mostly developed arabic countries) will help Iran.
are You ???

[Royal]

Israel's military forces is much smaller than that of Iran. But it is much better armed. Israel has nuclear weapons, submarines equipped with US missiles and got latest air strike weapons from US like Blu 109 bombs which can deliver nuclear warheads and buster planes which can strike Iran and return to Israel without re fuelling.

In case of attack ,it will be very very hard for Iran to stand, look at the map it is now surrounded by American forces from all sides - in the Central Asian republics to the north, Afghanistan to the east, the Gulf to the South and Iraq to the west.

Map: Iranian Nuclear Facilities
Us can not aford to involve iran territories in nuked area. they need this territories as clean to operate and achchive they agenda...

israil will agree only if they may use bombings only to bury those places under own buildings..
that would be more effective otherwise worthless, same as throwing the granate under own feet,
because wind will bring everything from contaminated site to the israil shores and everybody will suffer..

[PALESTINE]

Israel can kick the whole arab world's ass in short period of time..
sorry to interfere little girl, but open your eyes on these facts,

America couldnt defeat iraqi movements TILL NOW using world forces and great developed weapons, and may announce its defeating soon, so couldnt defeat just one arab country for 4 years ...

and israel till now couldnt defeat palestinians, and couldnt protect its civilians and soldiers from 1948 to 2006, and may in the future too ...

the best israeli unit defeated in JENIN CAMP in 2002, and couldnt enter just asmall camp for 15 days, just there were several palestinian men ...

israel defeated in lebanon on hands of hizb-ullah, and submitted land of the northern tab to lebanon ...

israel defeated by palestinian hands on (al-karamah struggle) in 1968 and withdraw soon from jordan, israeli destroyed tanks shown on tv that time, you can see them in AMMAN CITY now ...

israel defeated on hands of EGYPT-SYRIA in 1973, and the israeli prime minister (golda mayer) was crying on israeli killed soldiers on (bengoriun airport), israeli news papers wrote (israel = 24 hours) :shock: ...
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dear little jew girl, open your eyes on this fact
neither america, nor israel can defeat the muslim arabs nor other muslims whatever they had weapons, and whatever time passed ...
:D ;) :rolleyes:

regards for all :D :D :D

[var]

арабы ближайшие 50 лет скорее всего будут противостоять западу и бороться с ним....правда на своей территории :cool:

[Uzbekxonim]

are You ???

i would help the way i could.

[Guardian]

Someone was saying that Muslim dominant states' governments will help in case US/Israel's attack on Iran.

I'm sure Pakistan's Parvez Musharraf, Afghanistan's Hamid Karzai, Iraq's Jaafari, Kuwaitis sheikhs, Egypt's Husni Muborak and some Saudis will come to help. Without obligations. But to whom?

[PALESTINE]

Don't you think that after getting nuclear power Muslim countries will come to the idea that they should dominate in the world and another predatory war will begin?
NO
look for pakistan after having nuclear weapons, did the 10th world war made ??? at the contrary, the peace builted with india -although iam against that point, as not withdraw from 85% muslim kashmir ...

however, am against those who neglect crimes of super powers, and looks in great attention to muslim countries in order not to make there nuclear power, 1.5 b muslim have the right to have such weapons as any other nuclear countries, why america, russia, england, france, israel, india,... etc, have the right to have nuclear power and arab and muslim countries not ???

also, america is the first country made nuclear crimes in the world (in japan), why not the world asked america to get rid from such weapons, or america is the GOD of the world who make whatever wants without responsibility from any ???

till what time the world will continue scaling in double scales, and when this blah blah blah will end ???

[PALESTINE]

I'm sure Pakistan's Parvez Musharraf, Afghanistan's Hamid Karzai, Iraq's Jaafari, Kuwaitis sheikhs, Egypt's Husni Muborak and some Saudis will come to help. Without obligations. But to whom?
I AGREE BUT,
the governments openions are too much far from the true wells of peoples, and as you see, allah put on every muslim coutry bad criminals who help enemies, DRIVEN ACCORDING TO THE DRIVING POLICY OF THE DRIVER G.W.BUSH .

may allah solve that problem soon ...

http://195.224.230.11/pictures/big/_9047_mubarak-bush-26-2-2004.jpg

[PALESTINE]

ssory if i misunderstood you. just be carefull with your words.
i know how to speak, but there still some mistakes of how others want to comprehend thigs, and that is not my mistake ...