Хитрый Консул (США)

[antiSNOB]

Все знают что консулы:usa:, которые интервьюируют наших бедных :rolleyes: соотечественников являются очень хорошими психологами. Многие из нас хотя б 1 раз слышали или непосредственно были участниками прикольных случаев процесса получения виз.

Хотелось бы здесь обсуждать процесс получении nonimmegration visas from USEmbassy in Tashkent. Граждане уже имеющие визу please share us.

Какие вопросы частозадаваемые? Как нужно на них ответить? Что нужно говорить а что строго запрещается? Как всё-таки можно перехитрить:tomato: консула???

[UdachnicK]

Mani bitta og'aynim, sobesedovaniyaga bitta gruppa bilan birga kirip, yakobi' "gastrol"ga ketvommiza dip, doyrachi doirachi bo'lip kirgan:D
O'zi muzikani m harfini chunmiydi:) haliyam gastrol tugamagan(u USda) ;)

[Пушкарева]

poputeshestvuyte predvoritelno dlya kolichestva viz v passporte. eto ochen pomogaet. nu a potom yesli yest vozmojnost predostavit kakoy libo dokument (employer letter) yakobi u vas prilichnaya rabota i normalniy zarabotok, to eto toje ochen vajno.

ya kogda 1 raz zahodila na sobesedovaniye, pokazivala employment verfication with my salary, foreign bank account (no mojno i nash tam mestniy), v passporte bili drugiye vizi - i vsyo. sprosili zachem - skazala chot otpusk provesti, sprosili ne dorogo li, skazlaa z/p pozvolyaet. i poluchila vizu. no ya yeyo tak i ne uspela ispolzovat, chto mne kajetsya i pomoglo bez problem poluchit studencheskuyu vizu.

kogda ya zahodila poluchat F1, oni uvideli chot u menay yest viza, a ya yehsyo v tashkente i ne smotrya ni na kakie financial docs dali mne student viza. interview bilo ne bolshe 2 minut.


udachi.


Все знают что консулы:usa:, которые интервьюируют наших бедных :rolleyes: соотечественников являются очень хорошими психологами. Многие из нас хотя б 1 раз слышали или непосредственно были участниками прикольных случаев процесса получения виз.

Хотелось бы здесь обсуждать процесс получении nonimmegration visas from USEmbassy in Tashkent. Граждане уже имеющие визу please share us.

Какие вопросы частозадаваемые? Как нужно на них ответить? Что нужно говорить а что строго запрещается? Как всё-таки можно перехитрить:tomato: консула???

[spoon]

Какие вопросы частозадаваемые? Как нужно на них ответить? Что нужно говорить а что строго запрещается? Как всё-таки можно перехитрить:tomato: консула???

Если хоть как-то удастся перехитрить консула, то уже неостанется особой причины заполнять форму визы. Вам сразу же назначят подходящую дату и позовут на консультацию, и в результате у вас попросят заполнить анкету на работу в качестве нового психолога.

[Just_Girl]

Mani bitta og'aynim, sobesedovaniyaga bitta gruppa bilan birga kirip, yakobi' "gastrol"ga ketvommiza dip, doyrachi doirachi bo'lip kirgan:D
O'zi muzikani m harfini chunmiydi:) haliyam gastrol tugamagan(u USda) ;) chunki u Yuldiz Usmanovani jiyani bogan mana hozir ishlab yuribdi :)

[InTeGRa]

vot vi govorite hitriy council, i vse takoe, vi bi videli kakie zdes lyudi v amerike, uzbeki- daje srednego obrazovaniya netu, english k tomu eshe neznayut poluchayut vizi na 4 goda, tak eshe zarabativayut bolshe chem sredniy american ppl.....howcome?

[Ferry_BAY]

lol qatan bilasila shuncha gapla a? molodes uzbelaga gap yoo daje usade bilishadi kim qano visa oganini :)

[Ferry_BAY]

tuppa tugri shu gapga qushilman a tak kimga dur juda zarur visa kere busa manimcha uzbekistonimiz jonajon vatanimizda osa buladi approx 10K it is not bad when in chine to get visa to USa costs like 60K :)
Ona vatan Jonanjon VAtan :)
vot vi govorite hitriy council, i vse takoe, vi bi videli kakie zdes lyudi v amerike, uzbeki- daje srednego obrazovaniya netu, english k tomu eshe neznayut poluchayut vizi na 4 goda, tak eshe zarabativayut bolshe chem sredniy american ppl.....howcome?

[UdachnicK]

chunki u Yuldiz Usmanovani jiyani bogan mana hozir ishlab yuribdi :)

Just_Girl, manimcha siz boshqa odam haqida gapirvos... Chunki uni naskolko ya znayu Yulduz Usmonova digan holasiyam, amasiyam, tanishiyam yo'q:D
Usmonovadan boshqa artislayam borku USga gastrolga boradigan..??

[Amiri Turkiston]

mani bitta o'rtog'im og'zida jevachka bilan konsulni eshigini tepkanday qilib kirib / oyog'ini chalishtirib o'tirib konkretniy derzkiy gaplarni gapirib 2 yilga viza olib chiqdi :-) :-)

nima qilmoqchisan o'tta deb so'raganida - adamlarni pullariga kayp qigani ketvomman debti ...qanchaga viza ursez ushancha turaman depti :-)
lekin bir yildan keyin qaytib keldi

yana qanchadir oydan keyin kiruvdi - endi 4 yilga urib berishdi :-) :-)
bor dalshe kayp qivur deb

[Flash]

bor dalshe kayp qivur deb --->>>:lool: :lool: :lool: :lool:

[PHOENIX]

mani bitta o'rtog'im og'zida jevachka bilan konsulni eshigini tepkanday qilib kirib / oyog'ini chalishtirib o'tirib konkretniy derzkiy gaplarni gapirib 2 yilga viza olib chiqdi :-) :-)

nima qilmoqchisan o'tta deb so'raganida - adamlarni pullariga kayp qigani ketvomman debti ...qanchaga viza ursez ushancha turaman depti :-)
lekin bir yildan keyin qaytib keldi

yana qanchadir oydan keyin kiruvdi - endi 4 yilga urib berishdi :-) :-)
bor dalshe kayp qivur deb

nimala devossiz???
Mani oldimda bitta ayol yosh bolasi bilan kirgan edi. Bolasi to'polon qigan edi, ko'tiga urib o'tqizib qo'ydi joyiga. Konsul boshqa odam bilan gaplashib turgan edi. Haligi ayolni navbati keganda, konsul unga otkaz urib berdi. Nimaga deb so'raganda, "bolani urish mumkin emas" degan javobni oldi.

yana misolmi?
mani o'rtog'im (haliyam toshkenda, hatlashib turamiz), GreenCard yutgan, Toshkentdagi 1-sobesedovaniedan o'tgandan keyin unga Alma-Ata yoki Moskvadagi US Embassydan DVni olishini aytishgan. Alma-Atadagi posolstvoda unga qo'pol qilib aytganda, pridiratsya qilishgan (qarindosh urug', ish faoliyati, education, nima qimoqchi i t.d.), 1 soatcha gaplashishgandan keyin "Visa bermoqchimisla o'zi yoki yo'mi? deb jahl bilan so'ragan. Otkaz! Motiv: nervlarizni tuzatib, keyin yana qaytasiz.

[Unique]

agar USA dan I-20 form olib borsayam, viza olish qiyin bo'ladimi?

[PHOENIX]

agar USA dan I-20 form olib borsayam, viza olish qiyin bo'ladimi?

yo'q, 90% veroyatnost' uje qo'lizda, endi qogan 10% - obosnovat' qib bersez bo'ldi.

PS: uzr uzbek-rus aralashib ketti

[PHOENIX]

Кстати, отвечая на вопрос "Что говорить нельзя?"...

На сегодняшний день достаточно широко известны фирмы, реализующие отправку студентов в Соединенные Штаты иногда группами, иногда единицами. Не проходит такая фигня с консулом! Сам был свидетелем случая, когда эта фича сработала с 1% вероятности. На моих глазах консул "пробил" отказ около тридцати гастролерам, мотивирующим поездку в Штаты как "учиться английскому". Также не прошли 2 девочки, попробовавшие вариант "в колледж".
А одна smart русская девочка сказала "еду продолжать свое обучение, все оплачивает жених-американец". На вопрос консула предъявить любые документы, подтверждающие этот факт, она ответила, что это ее "..жених, а не муж и очень прошу прощения, но это не ваше дело". Вот на этот ответ консул пробил визу! Это была одна единая группа и у всех были подготовлены документы абсолютно одинаково.
Теперь ответ, почему 1%: консул точно так же мог и не выдать визу на такой ответ. (по моему)
В тот день визу получили всего три человека: я, эта и еще одна девушка, едущая на какую-то коференцию.

ЗЫ: отвечаю любопытным: я не был в этой группе.

[noodles]

The best way is to have a good TOEFL score, win the scholarship - that's it. Keyin eshigini tepib kirselayam viza beradi ;)

[Amiri Turkiston]

nimala devossiz???
Mani oldimda bitta ayol yosh bolasi bilan kirgan edi. Bolasi to'polon qigan edi, ko'tiga urib o'tqizib qo'ydi joyiga. Konsul boshqa odam bilan gaplashib turgan edi. Haligi ayolni navbati keganda, konsul unga otkaz urib berdi. Nimaga deb so'raganda, "bolani urish mumkin emas" degan javobni oldi.

yana misolmi?
mani o'rtog'im (haliyam toshkenda, hatlashib turamiz), GreenCard yutgan, Toshkentdagi 1-sobesedovaniedan o'tgandan keyin unga Alma-Ata yoki Moskvadagi US Embassydan DVni olishini aytishgan. Alma-Atadagi posolstvoda unga qo'pol qilib aytganda, pridiratsya qilishgan (qarindosh urug', ish faoliyati, education, nima qimoqchi i t.d.), 1 soatcha gaplashishgandan keyin "Visa bermoqchimisla o'zi yoki yo'mi? deb jahl bilan so'ragan. Otkaz! Motiv: nervlarizni tuzatib, keyin yana qaytasiz.

PHOENIX janoblari - ishongiz kelsa ishoning / bulmasam hohishish
man sizni ishonishiz uchun yozganim yo'q
1ta faktni etib o'ttim holos

sizni 2 ta misoliz ham hech nima haqida gapirmayapti
ayniqsa mani misollarimni noto'g'ri ligi haqida

[Sevinch]

nimala devossiz???
Mani oldimda bitta ayol yosh bolasi bilan kirgan edi. Bolasi to'polon qigan edi, ko'tiga urib o'tqizib qo'ydi joyiga. Konsul boshqa odam bilan gaplashib turgan edi. Haligi ayolni navbati keganda, konsul unga otkaz urib berdi. Nimaga deb so'raganda, "bolani urish mumkin emas" degan javobni oldi.

yana misolmi?
mani o'rtog'im (haliyam toshkenda, hatlashib turamiz), GreenCard yutgan, Toshkentdagi 1-sobesedovaniedan o'tgandan keyin unga Alma-Ata yoki Moskvadagi US Embassydan DVni olishini aytishgan. Alma-Atadagi posolstvoda unga qo'pol qilib aytganda, pridiratsya qilishgan (qarindosh urug', ish faoliyati, education, nima qimoqchi i t.d.), 1 soatcha gaplashishgandan keyin "Visa bermoqchimisla o'zi yoki yo'mi? deb jahl bilan so'ragan. Otkaz! Motiv: nervlarizni tuzatib, keyin yana qaytasiz.

Woy tovba qildim,birovni bolasi bilan nima ishi bor ekan?
Uzi Toshkentni posolstvosidan visa olish qiyin deyishadi, Almataga qaraganda.Men 2 marta Almatadan olgandim.Savollariga uverrenniy bulib javob berib "vsyoravno prava v moyom storone" degan vid qilib turish kerak ekan.

[PHOENIX]

PHOENIX janoblari - ishongiz kelsa ishoning / bulmasam hohishish
man sizni ishonishiz uchun yozganim yo'q
1ta faktni etib o'ttim holos

sizni 2 ta misoliz ham hech nima haqida gapirmayapti
ayniqsa mani misollarimni noto'g'ri ligi haqida

"namek"larni chunmasangiz, to'g'ri yozaman:

Konsul bo'lib tayinlanish uchun bu odamni hayoti o'rganib chiqiladi, keyin konkursant etib tayinlanadi, ana keyin bu "konkurs"da yutib chiqsa, o'shandan keyin Konsul deb atalishi mumkin.

...o'zi o'sha payt o'rtog'izni yonidamidingiz yoki "man eshikni biiitta tepdimde, manga viza berlaring dedim..yugurib obkeberishdi" degan gapiga ishonib ketaverdingizmi?
Hamma mayda-chuyda narsalarga e'tibor beradigan, odam hissiyotini bitta qarashda aniqlaydigan psiholog Konsul o'sha o'rtog'izni vajohatidan qo'rqib ketib viza urib bergan ekande, a?

[guest2005]

By the way, there is no way to kick the door to Consul's office because there is no Consul's office :). Consul stands on one side of the window and applicant on another. Consequently, there is no way to sit in front of consul, otherwise he/she will not be able to see the applicant.

Guest

P.S. Agree with the point that getting visa is matter of luck in many cases. It is very subjective and might depend on factors such as what kind of dream consul had the previous night :).

[PHOENIX]

By the way, there is no way to kick the door to Consul's office because there is no Consul's office :). Consul stands on one side of the window and applicant on another. Consequently, there is no way to sit in front of consul, otherwise he/she will not be able to see the applicant.

Guest

P.S. Agree with the point that getting visa is matter of luck in many cases. It is very subjective and might depend on factors such as what kind of dream consul had the previous night :).

Я даже не стал обращать внимание на такие детали...:lol: , но ты прав!

:lool: Я тут вспомнил...дверь же открывается наружу, а не вовнутрь, потому что там стоит бак с питьевой водой!!! :lool: :lool: :lool: (имеется ввиду не вход в здание консульства, а в "зал ожидания и переговоров")

...и еще..до двери провожает бдительный охранник, так что ДАЖЕ ЕСЛИ БЫ она открывалась вовнутрь, то сами понимаете...:lool:



PS: Ну, Амири Туркистон, прежде чем говорить "факты", то хотя бы продумай детали...мдаааа :rolleyes:

[bacha]

Here is an example, two guys go to consulate.
They had businesses in Uzbekistan, they take all those docs that they have about their business. One of them is smart, the other can speak with charm. The smart one explains that he and his friend are looking for new ways to expand their business, the second one wins the heart of the council(she was a lady). They got vizas for four years. Why? Because they both were absolutely confident about what they were saying, and what they wanted. Documents were original, but does it metter to the council who cannot read them?!

Another example, a guy says fifteen years ago he saved the life of a girl and that the girl is in US and inviting him. She will pay all the expenses. The council asks for proof from the girl. The person doesn't have. Refusal!

Still another example. A lady goes to consulate with an handicapped kid. She says to the council that she wants to take him to doctors in US and that an Uzbek fund is going to pay the expenses(The kid seemed to be ok, and interesting what fund is ready to pay the crazy expenses that she might have in US hospitals! She had some sort of paper at hand though). She cries, she begs, and here you go. She gets the viza!

A young guy goes to consulate. Has some docs from US. They can help with the viza, but do not guarantee. He thinks they do guarantee and he acts accordingly. He replies to the questions posed with absolute confidence and with a sort of anger, ignores the translator and starts talking English. He gets the viza.

Tell stories that you know. They might help someone.

[Amiri Turkiston]

...o'zi o'sha payt o'rtog'izni yonidamidingiz yoki "man eshikni biiitta tepdimde, manga viza berlaring dedim..yugurib obkeberishdi" degan gapiga ishonib ketaverdingizmi?
Hamma mayda-chuyda narsalarga e'tibor beradigan, odam hissiyotini bitta qarashda aniqlaydigan psiholog Konsul o'sha o'rtog'izni vajohatidan qo'rqib ketib viza urib bergan ekande, a?

odamga miyya uni ishlatish uchun berilgan
agar uni ishlata bilolmasangiz shunaqa qilib tushunmasdan yururas ...ola deb :D

eshikni tepib kirdi degani - apchagi qilib eshikni beli yoki kallasi barovarida tepdi degani emas ;)

posolstvada eshiklar soni etib ortadi konsul ko'radigan

bitta oynadan qarab turdi degani hech narsani ko'rmidi / ayniqsa qanday kirishizni ko'rmaydi degani emas

keyin konsul - uni vajohatidan emas - balkim uni shart shart qilib uverenniy o'z maqsadini bilib gapirishiga ishonch hosil qilib bergan

ee mayli - peace on you man

[Amiri Turkiston]

Young banker goes to the consulate with a invitation letter of Training Organizer ….it was a invitation for 1 week training that costs about $2000. His bank decided to pay all his training & accommodation expenses. He got the visa for a month.
But he wasn’t able to leave Tashkent … because he left the bank

After 3 months he goes to the consulate again and told that he decided to pay all his expenses by himself. And he explained that after passing through this training he would be able to get a new even better job. Of course he showed a letter of invitation to the interview that going to be organized after 3 weeks by world known Auditing company with good salary.

He got his 1 month visa again …and he is still passing his training.

[Shambles]

Ya slyshal ochen' i ochen' zabavnuyu istoriyu... Ya tam ne prisutstvoval, voobsche nikogda ne zahodil v Amerikanskoe posol'stvo (nikogda ne rvalsya) poetomu vpolne dopuskayu, chto eto legenda...

Odnajdy v posol'stvo prishli muj s jenoy, let po 40... Priehali oni izdaleka, vse kak polagayetsya (maxsi-kalishlarda:)). S angliyskim im v jizni ne udalos' podrujit'sya.. Nu konsul na nih vzglyanul i srazu ponyal chto k chemu i zachem oni sobralis' k dyade Sam'u... Nachalis' standartniye voprosy: "skol'ko u Vas detey?" Oni otvechayut 6. "Skol'ko let jenaty?" 20 s lishnim... Zatem on zadayet vpolne dejurniy vopros: "S kakoy tsel'yu Vy sobirayetes' posetit' Soyedinenniye Shtaty?"... To, chto on uslyshal, on vryad li kogda-nibud' zabudet... Oni yemu spokoyno: "My eto...na MEDOVIY MESYATS hotim poyehat'"... Tut konsul, kot. psiholog po idee, ne vyderjal i stal vo ves' golos rjat', hlopat' sebya po kolenyam i minut 10 ne mog uspokoit'sya... Vse, kto tam byl byli v shoke, t.k. konsula v "takom vide" nikto ne litsezrel ran'she... Zatem on uspokoilsya...i govorit... "Sed'mogo rebenka nazovete moim imenem!!!" i postavil im vizu....

Tak chto mojet yego prosto nado rassmeshit'???:D :D :D

[Kiyovtura]

Ya slyshal ochen' i ochen' zabavnuyu istoriyu... Ya tam ne prisutstvoval, voobsche nikogda ne zahodil v Amerikanskoe posol'stvo (nikogda ne rvalsya) poetomu vpolne dopuskayu, chto eto legenda...

Odnajdy v posol'stvo prishli muj s jenoy, let po 40... Priehali oni izdaleka, vse kak polagayetsya (maxsi-kalishlarda:)). S angliyskim im v jizni ne udalos' podrujit'sya.. Nu konsul na nih vzglyanul i srazu ponyal chto k chemu i zachem oni sobralis' k dyade Sam'u... Nachalis' standartniye voprosy: "skol'ko u Vas detey?" Oni otvechayut 6. "Skol'ko let jenaty?" 20 s lishnim... Zatem on zadayet vpolne dejurniy vopros: "S kakoy tsel'yu Vy sobirayetes' posetit' Soyedinenniye Shtaty?"... To, chto on uslyshal, on vryad li kogda-nibud' zabudet... Oni yemu spokoyno: "My eto...na MEDOVIY MESYATS hotim poyehat'"... Tut konsul, kot. psiholog po idee, ne vyderjal i stal vo ves' golos rjat', hlopat' sebya po kolenyam i minut 10 ne mog uspokoit'sya... Vse, kto tam byl byli v shoke, t.k. konsula v "takom vide" nikto ne litsezrel ran'she... Zatem on uspokoilsya...i govorit... "Sed'mogo rebenka nazovete moim imenem!!!" i postavil im vizu....

Tak chto mojet yego prosto nado rassmeshit'???:D :D :D
:lool: :lool: :lool:
ya znayu ih ;)

[Frida]

Woy tovba qildim,birovni bolasi bilan nima ishi bor ekan?
Uzi Toshkentni posolstvosidan visa olish qiyin deyishadi, Almataga qaraganda.Men 2 marta Almatadan olgandim.Savollariga uverrenniy bulib javob berib "vsyoravno prava v moyom storone" degan vid qilib turish kerak ekan.
voy, odamlarga hayron qolamande gohida, xo'razqand chet elniki desa yotib yalashadi :lol: ko'p odamlardan eshitaman Alamatada bemalol bervotgan ekan, o'sha yerga borish kerak deb. Bo'lmagan gap, agar javoblariz konkret bo'lib, hamma dokumentlar joyida bo'lsa beraveradi. Man consulning yoniga uch marta kirganman --- birinchi marta olganman albatta, keyin yana qaytib borganimda passport almashtirish, keyingisida status change bo'lgan shunga boshqattan visa olganman. Shu uch marta kirgan bo'lsam - o'tirib odamlarni hikoyasini eshitamande, kulgim keladi. Bittasi 90 yillarni boshida - Texasga ketvomman fermerstvoni o;rganishga degan ekan, shunga berishgan ekan. Endi viloyatlardan kelganlarning hammasi shu ertakni etadi. Yana shunaqa o'zi ertaklar bor, odamlar soddade shunaqa desam shartta bervotgan ekan deb kiraverishadi. Bittasini xotini etuvdi, ortiqcha 100$ topsala elchixonaga yuguradilar, hozir yaxshi bervotgan ekan deb. Ko'rganlarimning hammasi, aniq joyi belgilangan va qo'lida dokumenti yaxshi bo'lsa berveradi. Ingliz tili kurslariga man guvoh bo'lganlarimning bittasiga ham bermagan. there are enough resources in Uzb. to learn english degan. Bir katta gruppa bollar ketishdi ko'zimning oldida 10-15tasiga berdi -- travel and work bo'yicha. Dokumentlari hammasiniki konkret edi. Konsullar ham odam, hammasi ham o'zidan qo'rqadi, agar hamma doklariz to'g'ri bo'lsa berib yuboradi.

The best one I have ever seen was an old woman, the counsil didnt even ask many questions, she showed some paper work, it seemed like her friend's daughter was getting married. so the counsil just said come tonight at 5. Btw: for those who didnt know american consulate now in Yunus Abad. They moved it in November 18th.
Cheers,
Frida

[Shambles]

:lool: :lool: :lool:
ya znayu ih ;)

Bulgan voqeami uzi???:) :) :)

[SayFuLLoH]

Kogda ya zahodil v perviy raz,tam sidel {Alex}-esli kto pomnit ego:),Nas bilo 11 chelovek,ya i troe iz moego Instituta {TashGiV},ostal'nih ya videl v perviy raz .Pervim pozvali moego druga {Hamid},on dva goda otuchilsya v {Japan},angliskiy znal na otlichno,on prostoyal vozle Kosul'kogo okoshka 20 min..,potom pozvali menya,mne zadali vsego odin vopros:{V Kakom fakultete ya uchus'}-Ya otvetil chto v MEO{TashGiV},:
Karoche iz 11 chelovek proshli 10,pochemu{?},Tak kak 11 pozvali,pacana kotoriy,daje russkogo yazika neznal,emu zadali vopros,perevesti Institut gde on uchitca na angliskiy yazik {Ya nepomnyu gde on uchilsya}-on ne smog,Emu otkazali,vse ostal'nie poluchili {VISA}...
No hochu skazat',budte uverenni kogda budete razgovarivat' s Konsulom,nenado derzit'...,i nenado lezat' emu zadnicu,nado pokazat' emu chto vam eto Amerika nafig nenujna,vi prosto edite posmotret',kak tam..:P

P/S/Kto v Danniy moment,pitaetca,mechtaet i videt v svoih snah US,hochu ogorchit' vas,US ne takoy kakim vi ego sebe predstovlyaete,zdes' ochen' trudno,esli vi neznaete yazika,u vas net zdeshnego obrozovaniya,ili horoshih znakomih,to vam luchshe ostovatca v Tashkente...

SayFuLLoH

[Flash]

P/S/Kto v Danniy moment,pitaetca,mechtaet i videt v svoih snah US,hochu ogorchit' vas,US ne takoy kakim vi ego sebe predstovlyaete,zdes' ochen' trudno,esli vi neznaete yazika,u vas net zdeshnego obrozovaniya,ili horoshih znakomih,to vam luchshe ostovatca v Tashkente...:thumbs: :thumbs: :nod: :nod:

[spoon]

Никто из вас не слышал историю о мужчине, который после многократной неудачной попытки уговорить консульского оффицера выдать ему визу, нагло выплевывает в лицо консулу серо-зеленоватым веществом (носвай?) прямо у всех на виду.. Благо, говорят, что там было огородительное окошко, а то консулу пришлось бы худо..

[Sevinch]

Никто из вас не слышал историю о мужчине, который после многократной неудачной попытки уговорить консульского оффицера выдать ему визу, нагло выплевывает в лицо консулу серо-зеленоватым веществом (носвай?) прямо у всех на виду.. Благо, говорят, что там было огородительное окошко, а то консулу пришлось бы худо..
da, ya slishala takuyu istoriyu.

[RealTajikPlaya]

Guys i read lots of things in this thread but you know it does not have to do anything with the consule and his personality. he is human also and understands what we want and why we want. If you explain him everything clearly and right he will open all the doors to american world. But i like what Flash said:

P/S/Kto v Danniy moment,pitaetca,mechtaet i videt v svoih snah US,hochu ogorchit' vas,US ne takoy kakim vi ego sebe predstovlyaete,zdes' ochen' trudno,esli vi neznaete yazika,u vas net zdeshnego obrozovaniya,ili horoshih znakomih,to vam luchshe ostovatca v Tashkente...:thumbs: :thumbs: :nod: :nod:
__________________
The question to be asked at the end of the educational step is not
"What has the student learned?"
But
"What has the student become?"

If your english is not good and you are not capable of communicating in english just learn it first. it's very hard even though i like it here but still home is better place but if you do not know anything about here and doesn't have good english this "heaven" you guys talking about can be hell. So how we say "Yetti o'lchab bir kes"
Good luck everybody and watch your steps plz.

[PHOENIX]

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

It seems Flash doesn't know how to quote, keeping the authority rights...
...and RealTajikPlaya (cool nick, btw) doesn't pay attention to the posts, written regular, not in bold.

[Royal]

Konsul bo'lib tayinlanish uchun bu odamni hayoti o'rganib chiqiladi, keyin konkursant etib tayinlanadi, ana keyin bu "konkurs"da yutib chiqsa, o'shandan keyin Konsul deb atalishi mumkin.

Bu qattan kegan gap ? US Consul bolish uchun shartamas judayam kotta tajriba bolishi , bunda osha konsullik oqishini bitirgan yoki podderjkasi bor biror bir kelajagi porloq birowni qarindoshi !!!!
judayam ka hollarda oddie biror bir yengi kandidatura tushib qolishi mumkin....
a tak bu bollani anchasi ozini doirasidan...

yana: knkursant ??? blin stipendiant, dosent - kandidat deganlariday....

[Administrator]

antiSnob !!!
kop dostlarim amerikga ketishdi va sizga quydagi maslahat beraman agar uylanmagan bolsangiz ve uylanish niyatingiz bolmasa ish chatoq! va darhol fiktivniy brak qilishingiz kerak,bu havodek zarurdur, 50$ ga qilinadi bu ish :lol:
u yerga kirganda uylanganman desangiz sizga katta plyus boladi agar bolalar bolsa undan ham yahsiva oila va qarindish urugda urugda kriminla va ugolovniklar bolmasligi kerak.

endi bolgan voqealarni eshiting:
bir ayol mehmon vozasi uchun taklifnoma bilan elchihonaga kirgan va undan asil maqsadini sorashganda u erim osha yerda 3 bolasini tashlab ketdi oshani topib olib kelsihim kerak dep aldagan(lekin uni eri rostda ham tashlab ketgan va aemrikada bolgan lekin u ayol u yerga eri cuhun emas ammo ishlash uchun keytapgandi) ve konsul jon dep vizani bosgan.
bir ayollar millyicha soda tarzda kiyinp(yani romollar taqib atlas liboslar kiyib) kigan va man amerikaga borsih armonida butun umr yashadim hozir sogligimda u yerlarni korib kelmoqchi edim degan va viza olgan.
bir bola kirdi 26 yoshlarda "koplar ota olmayapgan ekan men esa shunchaki omadimni sinamoqchi dep hazillashgan " va viza olgan.
hullas gap bu yerda sizning dokumentlarda emas ammo momulangizda bazan asroto ham kerak,yani ohshatib hazil qilsangiz sizga viza berilshi mumkin.

[PHOENIX]

Bu qattan kegan gap ? US Consul bolish uchun shartamas judayam kotta tajriba bolishi , bunda osha konsullik oqishini bitirgan yoki podderjkasi bor biror bir kelajagi porloq birowni qarindoshi !!!!
judayam ka hollarda oddie biror bir yengi kandidatura tushib qolishi mumkin....
a tak bu bollani anchasi ozini doirasidan...

yana: knkursant ??? blin stipendiant, dosent - kandidat deganlariday....

qanaqa yana podderjka? O'zbekistonmi bu sanga?
Konsul etib tayinlanish processi qonun bo'yicha man aytganimdek bajariladi. Umuman olganda, MVESda ishlab yurgan paytimda shunaqa edi.

[Administrator]

Никто из вас не слышал историю о мужчине, который после многократной неудачной попытки уговорить консульского оффицера выдать ему визу, нагло выплевывает в лицо консулу серо-зеленоватым веществом (носвай?) прямо у всех на виду.. Благо, говорят, что там было огородительное окошко, а то консулу пришлось бы худо..
eto bili samarkandtsi i on viplyunil na okoshko a ne v litso.

[Alexandria]

Добро пожаловать в посольство под Christmas - виза почти гарантирована (если у вас в порядке с документами). Не забудьте захватить Улыбку и Уверенность (не путать с самоуверенностью). :cool:


А вот это личный опыт. Довелось побывать в Канадском Посольстве - там визы в один момент наспех проставляли, лишь бы люди успокоились. Около 20 человек уже с утра ждали - невтерпеж стало, началось с какой-то бабки..Галдеж.. I couldn't believe my eyes.. Охранник глазами хлопает - "ребята, давайте по порядку", - говорит. Какой - его даже никто не слушает - все давят на окошко, кричат..
Человек 10 точно получили при мне. :rolleyes:


P.S. Самому там виза не нужна была

[Martingale]

don't lie! They will know it. You might be penalzied so that you won't be granted any visa up to ten or more years.

- Make sure all your documents are correct
- Be confident while speaking and make clear statements. not just blah blah
- sometimes your appearence might also matter.

in any case, falsifying documents and providing wrong information might cause very bad results. Wait until the next time if rejected. Sometimes more lenient consuls might take the office. Good Luck!

[Bonik]

qanaqa yana podderjka? O'zbekistonmi bu sanga?
Konsul etib tayinlanish processi qonun bo'yicha man aytganimdek bajariladi. Umuman olganda, MVESda ishlab yurgan paytimda shunaqa edi.

Logika jeleznaya :lol: :lol: :lol: Rosayam yotvolib kulimman :lol:

Uzbekistonni MVESida ishlagn odam Amerikani konsuli qilib tayyinlanish protsessini ipidan ninasigacha yahshi bilarkan :)
Phoenixboy, hotyabi MID demabsizde ;)

Bilmagan narsa haqida fikrizni yahshisi bildirmang... Tanish bilishchilik, oka-ukachilik, poraho'rlik butun dunyoda bor. Amerikada bu "behind the scenes" va "juda yuqori uroven"da bajariladi.

Qonun bo'yicha oppoqqina bo'gani bilan LOBBY degan narsa bor o'tta... Kim soqqasini ko'pro bersa o'sha oladi kresloni.

Yanglishmasam 1999 yili Janubiy Amerikadan ishini tugatib qaytayotgan bitta US konsulini FBR ushlagandi Miami aeroportida. Chemodanida millionlab dollar bo'gan.

[Just_Girl]

Just_Girl, manimcha siz boshqa odam haqida gapirvos... Chunki uni naskolko ya znayu Yulduz Usmonova digan holasiyam, amasiyam, tanishiyam yo'q:D
Usmonovadan boshqa artislayam borku USga gastrolga boradigan..??
gapingiz ham togri chunki hamma kegan artistlani kelishgan pulli ozini yolkirasini qoplamidi boshqalaga viza olib berib pull qilishadi .. yaqinda bittasi keldi Tojik Uzbek halq artisti daje konsert ham qoymasdan olib kegan odamlarini tashlab ketdi aha Ny kim yashasa soreng etib berishadi ....

[antiSNOB]

agar USA dan I-20 form olib borsayam, viza olish qiyin bo'ladimi?

I-20 form nimaedi? ko'p eshitganmanku, lekin qanaqa formaligi esga kemiyapti...

[antiSNOB]

The best way is to have a good TOEFL score, win the scholarship - that's it. Keyin eshigini tepib kirselayam viza beradi ;)

magistraturaga scholarship olish qiyinde... 2-3yil ishlagan bo'lishin kere...

[antiSNOB]

Kogda ya zahodil v perviy raz,tam sidel {Alex}-esli kto pomnit ego:),Nas bilo 11 chelovek,ya i troe iz moego Instituta {TashGiV},ostal'nih ya videl v perviy raz .Pervim pozvali moego druga {Hamid},on dva goda otuchilsya v {Japan},angliskiy znal na otlichno,on prostoyal vozle Kosul'kogo okoshka 20 min..,potom pozvali menya,mne zadali vsego odin vopros:{V Kakom fakultete ya uchus'}-Ya otvetil chto v MEO{TashGiV},:
Karoche iz 11 chelovek proshli 10,pochemu{?},Tak kak 11 pozvali,pacana kotoriy,daje russkogo yazika neznal,emu zadali vopros,perevesti Institut gde on uchitca na angliskiy yazik {Ya nepomnyu gde on uchilsya}-on ne smog,Emu otkazali,vse ostal'nie poluchili {VISA}...
No hochu skazat',budte uverenni kogda budete razgovarivat' s Konsulom,nenado derzit'...,i nenado lezat' emu zadnicu,nado pokazat' emu chto vam eto Amerika nafig nenujna,vi prosto edite posmotret',kak tam..:P

P/S/Kto v Danniy moment,pitaetca,mechtaet i videt v svoih snah US,hochu ogorchit' vas,US ne takoy kakim vi ego sebe predstovlyaete,zdes' ochen' trudno,esli vi neznaete yazika,u vas net zdeshnego obrozovaniya,ili horoshih znakomih,to vam luchshe ostovatca v Tashkente...

SayFuLLoH

A sho za proga bi'la? Work&Travel???

[antiSNOB]

antiSnob !!!
kop dostlarim amerikga ketishdi va sizga quydagi maslahat beraman agar uylanmagan bolsangiz ve uylanish niyatingiz bolmasa ish chatoq! va darhol fiktivniy brak qilishingiz kerak,bu havodek zarurdur, 50$ ga qilinadi bu ish :lol:
u yerga kirganda uylanganman desangiz sizga katta plyus boladi agar bolalar bolsa undan ham yahsiva oila va qarindish urugda urugda kriminla va ugolovniklar bolmasligi kerak.


Uylanmaganman, uylanish niyatimam yo'q :( Toshkenda fiktivniy haqida eshitmaganakanman... fiktivniy brak bolalari bilan qilsayam bo'ladimi???

[antiSNOB]

Ya nedavno ezdila na kanikuli v Uzbekistan obnovit' visu F-1. Posol posmotrel moy I-20, skazal "First of all, congratulations on your Dean's Scholarship; tell me why you transfered to your current university from your previous college; why did you leave the US in March ( I was traveling on my spring break)." That's it. I got my visa within 30 mins. Believe or not.

Beleive;) And what was your looooong(30mins) answer?

[SayFuLLoH]

Horosh moi posti kopirovat'!
Narod,esli est' jelanie i dengi,pomojem priehat' v US {tipa} na uchobu:)

P/S/ Ya ser'ezno!

[antiSNOB]

uzr, quote qivorimman:D

qaysi programmaligini bilmohchiydim Mavlono:)

[daejeon]

qiziq juda qiziq nima bu ******* konsul faqat uzbekistonda
shunaqa ishledimi? :evil: nimaga bunaqa?
boshqa maslan kirgizston yok qozogstonlada unaqa
emasmi? yani kayfiyatiga yoki kuldirgani uchun
beradimi viza kirgizslarga qozolarga ham? bilishimcha uk
gayam shunaqa qiyin ekan viza olish?

[spoon]

Американскую визу в посольстве США в Ташкенте можно легко приобрести, если удастся установить "надежный" контакт с консулом в кулуарах. Помню как года 3-4 назад цена была не ниже 10,000 УЕ. То есть никаких вопросов, походов и длинных очередей в посольство - все под ключ. Детям дипломатов и прочих высших чинов такое удовольствие обходилось в 3 раза дешевле.

[melo]

qiziq juda qiziq nima bu ******* konsul faqat uzbekistonda
shunaqa ishledimi? :evil: nimaga bunaqa?
boshqa maslan kirgizston yok qozogstonlada unaqa
emasmi? yani kayfiyatiga yoki kuldirgani uchun
beradimi viza kirgizslarga qozolarga ham? bilishimcha uk
gayam shunaqa qiyin ekan viza olish?

From what I understand getting a US visa from Kyrgyzstan is more difficult than from Tashkent.

[UdachnicK]

gapingiz ham togri chunki hamma kegan artistlani kelishgan pulli ozini yolkirasini qoplamidi boshqalaga viza olib berib pull qilishadi .. yaqinda bittasi keldi Tojik Uzbek halq artisti daje konsert ham qoymasdan olib kegan odamlarini tashlab ketdi aha Ny kim yashasa soreng etib berishadi ....

Uyam shunaqa artisladan bittasiga ergashipketgandee...:D

[UdachnicK]

Американскую визу в посольстве США в Ташкенте можно легко приобрести, если удастся установить "надежный" контакт с консулом в кулуарах. Помню как года 3-4 назад цена была не ниже 10,000 УЕ. То есть никаких вопросов, походов и длинных очередей в посольство - все под ключ. Детям дипломатов и прочих высших чинов такое удовольствие обходилось в 3 раза дешевле.

Bilmadim, lekin bir og'aynimmi tanishi etganidi: Uni kotta osobnyakida Counsilladan bittasi arendada turarkan. Bir kuni shunaqa predlojenie bilan undan so'raganakan, nu tipa, davay dogovorimsya, ya tebe passporti s den'gami, ti' mne vizi', i tebe horosho, i mne, digan ma'noda, hullas haligi ko'zlarini kotta kotta qilip: yana bir marta shunaqa narsa haqida gap o'chadigan bo'sen, uyini bo'shatip beraman, dipti...

niznayu naskol'ko verno...

[abcd]

Bugun bitta tanishimiz viza opti. Language course ga kelyapti.

Man o'zim kirganimda Jizzahlik biznesmen kirgan edi. Jiyanim Floridada o'qiydi shuni yoniga ketyapman hotinim bilan degan edi. Har hil finasoviy dokumentlar bilan kirgan edi. So'g'diyona futbolniy klubni sponsoriman kotta biznesmenman deb rosa gapirdi. Hotiniga srazu otkaz berdi. Eriga yana qo'shimcha dokumentlarni olib keling degan edi. Yana bitta odam viza olgan ekan keyin amerikaga borib kelibdi. Qaytib kelganda passportini yoqotib qoyibdi shuning uchun vizani yangilash uchun kirganda bermagan. Bitta qiz Harvarddan I-20 bilan kirgan edi, I-20da bitta qarindoshi sponsorlikka ko'rsatilgan edi. Ertasiga vizani olgani kelganimda o'sha qiz ko'rinmagan. Viza olganmi yoki yo'qmi bilmiman.

[Administrator]

Американскую визу в посольстве США в Ташкенте можно легко приобрести, если удастся установить "надежный" контакт с консулом в кулуарах. Помню как года 3-4 назад цена была не ниже 10,000 УЕ. То есть никаких вопросов, походов и длинных очередей в посольство - все под ключ. Детям дипломатов и прочих высших чинов такое удовольствие обходилось в 3 раза дешевле.
konsul emas ammo atrfodigalilar sotiladi kirish ehtimolnin 99% garantiya berishadi man bitta aniydigan odam amerikada 5 yil nelegal bolib yurib qaytib kelib yana 11 baksga togirlab ketdi.

[Administrator]

Uylanmaganman, uylanish niyatimam yo'q :( Toshkenda fiktivniy haqida eshitmaganakanman... fiktivniy brak bolalari bilan qilsayam bo'ladimi???
ha ,boladi lekin osha kiradigan oyda qilmasdan 5-6 oy oldindan qilsangiz menimcha mantiqliroq.gap shundaki qizni pasportga pechat qoymasa ham boladi,faqat siznikiga qoyiladi(sizga shu pechat kerak ozi aslida ) bir dostimga ohshab oz amma yoki hola qizingizni yordamga chaqirishingiz mumkin :lol: ciddiy aytyapman.

[KeSha]

lol qatan bilasila shuncha gapla a? molodes uzbelaga gap yoo daje usade bilishadi kim qano visa oganini :)

uzun cho'pi borde o'zbeklarni hammasini :lol:

[Amiri Turkiston]

vchera za $ 5000 mne poobeshali vizu v Ameriku na 4 goda

[Amiri Turkiston]

btw: MID ham MVES ham konsulni tayyorlanish processi bilan ishlamaydi

uni chet el davlati tayinlaydi va MID ning bir hozirgi Cirk ning oldidagi bulimi tasdiqlaydi holos

[erkak#1]

vchera za $ 5000 mne poobeshali vizu v Ameriku na 4 goda
Omadizzi bersin! :lool:

[UdachnicK]

moy otets kogda-to s 3-h mesyachney vizoy projil tam 3goda:D

est li u menya shansi'?

[Martingale]

qiziq juda qiziq nima bu ******* konsul faqat uzbekistonda
shunaqa ishledimi? :evil: nimaga bunaqa?


yes, that's somehow true. You should take it with a grain of salt.
For example, based on what I was told by my mexican friend, it's damn hard to get a US visa in Mexico even if you have all proper documents. I guess no one would argue on that. :)
And I know another mexican guy, who is studying at Texas M&A university with a toursit visa. He goes back to Mexico in every three month(that's the requirement of tourist visa), then comes back to US and continues studying. He is doing this because he was not able to get a student visa.
So that's how consular offices of US work across countries.

[forex]

speaking of US consulate in Tashkent.Is it open now?I heard rumors that it's temporarily closed.Can anyone confirm?

[UdachnicK]

speaking of US consulate in Tashkent.Is it open now?I heard rumors that it's temporarily closed.Can anyone confirm?

ya uje kak 2nedeli nemogu dozvonitsya...:(

[PHOENIX]

ya uje kak 2nedeli nemogu dozvonitsya...:(

a ispolzovat' polchasa svobodnogo vremeni i zaehat'?

[MUHLIS]

Genius bitta gap yozgan ekan "Admission ol, scholarship yut" deb. Tamom boshqa gap bo'lishi mumkin emas.
Sizlar bu yerda so'zlab o'tirgan xikoyalar xammasi sub'ektiv va viza olish/berishning asosiy maqsadiga xech aloqasi yo'q. Masalan, biringiz aytibsiz bir ayol bolasini orqasiga urgan edi "urish mumkin emas" deb viza bermadida deb......Menimcha vizani rad etishning asosiy sababi u emas edi, u shunchaki bir tanbeh edi xalos.....
Bittangiz yozibsizki go'yo "xamma hujjatlari bir" bo'lgan guruhdan biriga "sizi ishiz emas" degan gapi uchun viza beribdi qolganiga bermabdi.....Bilasizmi, maktabda yozma ish yozganda xam xamma bir a'lochidan bir misol va bir yechimni ko'chirgani bilan bir xil baxo olishmaydi....

[UdachnicK]

Genius bitta gap yozgan ekan "Admission ol, scholarship yut" deb. Tamom boshqa gap bo'lishi mumkin emas.
Sizlar bu yerda so'zlab o'tirgan xikoyalar xammasi sub'ektiv va viza olish/berishning asosiy maqsadiga xech aloqasi yo'q. Masalan, biringiz aytibsiz bir ayol bolasini orqasiga urgan edi "urish mumkin emas" deb viza bermadida deb......Menimcha vizani rad etishning asosiy sababi u emas edi, u shunchaki bir tanbeh edi xalos.....
Bittangiz yozibsizki go'yo "xamma hujjatlari bir" bo'lgan guruhdan biriga "sizi ishiz emas" degan gapi uchun viza beribdi qolganiga bermabdi.....Bilasizmi, maktabda yozma ish yozganda xam xamma bir a'lochidan bir misol va bir yechimni ko'chirgani bilan bir xil baxo olishmaydi....

Threadni ochilishidan maqsad ham shunaqa US council bilan bo'gan voqealani yozish edi manimcha. Scholarsihp yutish hammagayammas, ushanga boshqa variantariniyam ko'rib chiqvommiz mavlono:)

[UdachnicK]

a ispolzovat' polchasa svobodnogo vremeni i zaehat'?

Hamma call'laga jovob berishvotti. Manimcha uje hammasi iziga tushipketgan. Bemalol confirm qiseyla bo'vuradi:)

[MUHLIS]

Threadni ochilishidan maqsad ham shunaqa US council bilan bo'gan voqealani yozish edi manimcha. Scholarsihp yutish hammagayammas, ushanga boshqa variantariniyam ko'rib chiqvommiz mavlono:)
Tushunarli. Ha unda avval Mexicaga viza olib keyin Americaga o'tish haqida ham o'ylab ko'rmabsizlarda. :lool:

[forex]

$2k to get from Mexico to the US.If you are in Mexico it's not that hard to get into the US.But is it worth it?That's the question.

[Пушкарева]

recently on campus they showed movie on human trafficking and illigal migration. tak vot tam pokazivali US_Mexica border i kak ludi yeyo nelegalno peresekayut i kak ona ohranyaetsya US troups. Mnogiye teryaut svoyu jizn tam. Pls obdumayte horoshenko stoit li eto togo.


$2k to get from Mexico to the US.If you are in Mexico it's not that hard to get into the US.But is it worth it?That's the question.

[corsair]

recently on campus they showed movie on human trafficking and illigal migration. tak vot tam pokazivali US_Mexica border i kak ludi yeyo nelegalno peresekayut i kak ona ohranyaetsya US troups. Mnogiye teryaut svoyu jizn tam. Pls obdumayte horoshenko stoit li eto togo.
yes it does worth it!
i did it twice!

all the best

PS: BTW, konsul psiholog, LOL, voobshe v posolstve s vami konsul i ne obshaetsya!!! eto visa officers i oni toje ne psihologi, oni opitniye rabotniki!

[rOOst]

rebyata, u menya vopros est', nemnojko offtopoviy :) :
shob vizu v US vzyat' obizatel'no v posol'stvo v Tahkente zahodit'? delo v tom shto ya seychas v Shvetsii, nel'zya li vse dela tut v posol'stve v Shvetsii sdelat' a? ... a to ehat' obratno v Uzb... (damn, I'm lazy :)) na samolyot den'gi tratit'...

[Shambles]

rebyata, u menya vopros est', nemnojko offtopoviy :) :
shob vizu v US vzyat' obizatel'no v posol'stvo v Tahkente zahodit'? delo v tom shto ya seychas v Shvetsii, nel'zya li vse dela tut v posol'stve v Shvetsii sdelat' a? ... a to ehat' obratno v Uzb... (damn, I'm lazy :)) na samolyot den'gi tratit'...

Yesli nichego suschestvenno ne izmenilos', to nel'zya... Oni (amerikantsy) trebuyut, chtoby ty yehal v svoyu stranu i poluchal tam vizu... God nazad menya priglasili na konferentsiyu v Shtaty, no t.k. ya byl v Shvetsii i vizu poluchit' bylo nevozmojno, prishlos' ot nee otkazat'sya...

Hotya yest' odin interesniy moment... Moy drug (kazah) poprosil v posol'stve USA v Kazahstane "Letter of Support", oni yemu yego prislali (t.k. oni oplachivali yemu dorogu v shtaty) i na osnove etogo pis'ma v Stockholme yemu postavili vizu bez problem!!!

Uspehov!!!

[kipchak]

РЕбята,
а никто здесь визу не менял свою J-1, J-2 на F -1 будучи в Штатах, и не выезжая из нее? просто наткнулся на объявления в местной газете которое предлагает такие услуги...
че думаем по этому поводу?

[guest2005]

Shambala,
I think you were a little bit mistaken about the visa process. How can you explain the situation when Uzbek citizen can get a US visa in Kazahstan or Russia? I also heard of cases when foreign citizen come to the US as tourists, but in order to change their status to student status they need to depart the US, so they go to Canada or Mexico and get their student visas (those people were not canadian or mexican citizen). Anyways, I am almost sure (85.674395450985% :) ) that any US embassy can issue visas (not all types of visas though) regardless of citizenship of visa applicants.

Guest

[Shambles]

Shambala,
I think you were a little bit mistaken about the visa process. How can you explain the situation when Uzbek citizen can get a US visa in Kazahstan or Russia? I also heard of cases when foreign citizen come to the US as tourists, but in order to change their status to student status they need to depart the US, so they go to Canada or Mexico and get their student visas (those people were not canadian or mexican citizen). Anyways, I am almost sure (85.674395450985% :) ) that any US embassy can issue visas (not all types of visas though) regardless of citizenship of visa applicants.

Guest

It looks like a paradox... And it seems that u were right...but, I've noticed one essential point in ur rhetorics... Not all types of visas... And I strongly guess that my case was within ur "not all types of visas"... As a back-up... Two guys from Azerbaijan wanted to get a visa to conference at Princeton. And they applied, went to Stockholm and to their great disappointment were informed that they MUST go to Baku, since it's the only way to get a visa for them...and, moreover, they didn't give back their visa fee.

It was in May 2004, so u can easily refer to the above-mentioned as a case study... If regulations havent changed, of course.

[Lolahon]

It looks like a paradox... And it seems that u were right...but, I've noticed one essential point in ur rhetorics... Not all types of visas... And I strongly guess that my case was within ur "not all types of visas"... As a back-up... Two guys from Azerbaijan wanted to get a visa to conference at Princeton. And they applied, went to Stockholm and to their great disappointment were informed that they MUST go to Baku, since it's the only way to get a visa for them...and, moreover, they didn't give back their visa fee.

It was in May 2004, so u can easily refer to the above-mentioned as a case study... If regulations havent changed, of course.


I have a question regarding to this case, Had those Azeri guys been temporary legal residents such as a student, worker, etc., or had some kind of other legal status. If the answer is yes, they can apply for a tourist visa for the conference, and it is more likely possible to get it, if you have some kind of bindings to the country where you are applying from. For example, if they had their studies continued or work, they could have shown their school enrollment, work papers, and those would be enough proves. Maybe they applied at the end of their school year, or they did not have visa back to Europe, etc. Perhaps they did not have proper documents, such as enough funding, or an invitation letter from the conference. But if they were tourists (those who are in tourist status can not apply from visiting country, they should go home country or the country where they have a residence)or illegal, of course, they have been refused. So there are a lot of factors before a person applies for a visa.

I had a vice versa situation, when I was in the US, I wanted to go to Europe, since I was a student and had a temprorary resident status, i was eligible to apply for visa, as long as I had all my documents legal, updated, proof of financial security and accomadation, etc.

[Royal]

You may get visitors visa from any consulate of US, but depends how is Your situation and how You presented Your case to the consul. kak podat!

[Shambles]

[quote=Lolahon]I have a question regarding to this case, Had those Azeri guys been temporary legal residents such as a student, worker, etc., or had some kind of other legal status....[quote=Lolahon]

Thanks for ur comments... It's getting more complicated as I see, since those Azery guys had temporary residence permits for 1.5 years and all other papers such as invitation, financial issues etc. were just fine... Moreover, they were in the middle of their studies and this conference was a part of their academic studies. But people in the embassy even didnt talk about it, saying that this issue is beyond their competence.

Maybe regulations were different in 2004??? I cant see any other reason, if u insist that it's more than possible.

[PHOENIX]

РЕбята,
а никто здесь визу не менял свою J-1, J-2 на F -1 будучи в Штатах, и не выезжая из нее? просто наткнулся на объявления в местной газете которое предлагает такие услуги...
че думаем по этому поводу?

ну че, коллега...;)
тоже researcher? или visitor?

..я собираюсь, в принципе. Узнаешь больше о процедуре, дай знать ;)

[kipchak]

ну че, коллега...;)
тоже researcher? или visitor?

..я собираюсь, в принципе. Узнаешь больше о процедуре, дай знать ;)

хахах, да я и то и другое в принципе,
вот что смог найти в нете: http://www.immigrantcenter.ru/
удачи, если что тоже делись:)

[Unique]

sorry for off-top, but it came to my mind. do you have to pay for changing your visa status? if yes, how much about?
thank you.

[PHOENIX]

sorry for off-top, but it came to my mind. do you have to pay for changing your visa status? if yes, how much about?
thank you.

1) Yes. You have to pay for lawyer's service.
2) It depends.

хахах, да я и то и другое в принципе,
вот что смог найти в нете: http://www.immigrantcenter.ru/
удачи, если что тоже делись:)

Спасибо за инфу.
Я собираюсь сделать это все-таки через "лоера". Так надежней, хотя его услуги обычно стоят бешеных денег.

[abcd]

РЕбята,
а никто здесь визу не менял свою J-1, J-2 на F -1 будучи в Штатах, и не выезжая из нее? просто наткнулся на объявления в местной газете которое предлагает такие услуги...
че думаем по этому поводу?
If you are not bounded by any contract why not. You just need to go and talk with your advisor and send necessary documents to INS. I know one guy who changed his status from J-1 to F-1. But do not procrastinate because if your J-1 ends and you will decide apply later then they won't grant it for you because for some period of time you will be off status which they take very seriously.

[kipchak]

Razorback - thanks for the info

Phoenix - а через лоера сколько это все будет примерно стоить? и как рано это все надо затевать (имею в виду за сколько месяцев до дедлайна визы)

А как насчет кидалова - тут я слышал это тоже процветает..

[PHOENIX]

Razorback - thanks for the info

Phoenix - а через лоера сколько это все будет примерно стоить? и как рано это все надо затевать (имею в виду за сколько месяцев до дедлайна визы)

А как насчет кидалова - тут я слышал это тоже процветает..

primerno ot 2000 do 4000.

kak rano? hmm...po-moemu, gde-to polgoda hvatit...

[forex]

primerno ot 2000 do 4000.

kak rano? hmm...po-moemu, gde-to polgoda hvatit...

I wouldn't spend $2-$4K just to change my status.This is outrageous.You can do it yourself.There is no lawyer that can affect your immigration status,it's all up to BCIS.If they decide not to change your status,no lawyer can help you out.All you have to do is to prove them and present them solid reasons.
You can find all the instructions and information at www.uscis.gov (http://www.uscis.gov)
It's usually a good idea to apply for change of status two months before your I-94 or I-20 form (in case you are an F1 student) expires.
good luck on saving some money

[Valentina]

hEY! V chyo delo?!..S uma poshodili?!..Prichyom tut UZBEKI, ne uzbeki...MI VSE UZBEKISTANCI!.. Vay boy!Stidno, stidno! Idyote po puti, kotoriy Martin Luther King pitalsya "smit'" iz istorri pozornih faktov SSHA?..Mi vse Uzbekistanci!..

[Administrator]

voybuu namuncha qutirmasa endi..

[PHOENIX]

hEY! V chyo delo?!..S uma poshodili?!..Prichyom tut UZBEKI, ne uzbeki...MI VSE UZBEKISTANCI!.. Vay boy!Stidno, stidno! Idyote po puti, kotoriy Martin Luther King pitalsya "smit'" iz istorri pozornih faktov SSHA?..Mi vse Uzbekistanci!..

Vy, mnogouvajaemaya, eto k chemu? :rolleyes:

[Prince]

Konsuli - oni smotrat na vseh kak budto oni sami "1-sort" a vse ostalnie kotorie hotyat vizu oni "3-sort". Prosto nado derzko otvechat uverenno i vse budet o.k ( i chtob vse dokumenti bili v poryadke )

Officer: Hi , so you going to US , huh?
Me: Kind of ,
Officer: Why to US? To "this" University?
Me: Why not? i liked it!
Officer: oo i see , u been to London , UK , how was that?
Me: It was Great , i liked it
Officer: When are u planing to come back?
Me: Within 24 hours after my graduation
Officer: xaxa ( smeyotsa ) You can come tomorrow between X am - 3 pm and get your visa
Me: Thanks

[Sarahjon]

when i was there, everyone in line before me got rejected. only one person going to some us-funded seminar got a visa. i had i-20, and no prob.

if you are getting your visa in summer, go to the embassy with water; and someone to accompany you. i stood in line in outside heat from 9am till i entered the embassy building at about 2pm w/t any water food or bathroom break. they call out your name - and you ve gotta be there at that moment. once in the bulding - there was water, but line as well! another hour. i was unhappy completely - and got my "OK" for a visa very fast w/t much interview questions... maybe i was about to pass out and they did not wanna witness that...

anyways - you can see that mostly people wanna get out to not return / to earn money/ and there is no way they can do that legally in most cases. you dont have to be too smart to see that - come on - so rejection is only logical....

always yours. moi.

[DIDO]

Qanaqa achinarli holat shunaqa izdivatsya qilinishimi, lekin bitta savol:
qaysi tilda gapirish biror rol oyniydimi?
Yana aytishadiki, agar Yevropada bo'lib qaytgan bo'lsa, osonroq bo'larmish, bunga nima deysizlar?
Keyin, boshqa davlatdan USga student viza olsa bo'ladimi, well o'zi qanaqalarini olish imkoni bor chetdan turib?

[Prince]

Dido , xa
Agar Europe viza bolsa , prosrochenniy bolmasa , berishi oson boladi! Lekin ularni bilib bulmaydide , davlat ularniki sizni xech qanday xaqqingiz yoq ularga pritenzia qilishizga , hohlasa beradi hohlamasa yoq. sizning esa xech qanday huquqingiz yoq.
Student visa olishni bilmadimku lekin misol uchun UK( LOndon)da legalniy student bulib turib , US ga Visitor visaga - apply qilsam boladi , lekin qaytarib betaman bermasligi xam mumkin! Bu garantia degani emas.

[forex]

has anyone applied for a US non-immigrant visa lately?
I mean,these 3 past months.

[RockerDen]

Как всё-таки можно перехитрить:tomato: консула???

Esli konsul evrey - eto nevozmozhno.:lol:

[Hamitovich]

Woy tovba qildim,birovni bolasi bilan nima ishi bor ekan?
Uzi Toshkentni posolstvosidan visa olish qiyin deyishadi, Almataga qaraganda.Men 2 marta Almatadan olgandim.Savollariga uverrenniy bulib javob berib "vsyoravno prava v moyom storone" degan vid qilib turish kerak ekan.

po amerikanskim zakonam rebenka bit' nelzya. Posolstvo eto amerikanskaya territoriya gde pravyat ih zakoni. Konsul postupil ochen daje pravilno. I vsem ostalnim eto nado znat'.

[Hamitovich]

has anyone applied for a US non-immigrant visa lately?
I mean,these 3 past months.
NIMEDI, AZIZIM?

[cosonic]

Qanaqa achinarli holat shunaqa izdivatsya qilinishimi, lekin bitta savol:
qaysi tilda gapirish biror rol oyniydimi?
Yana aytishadiki, agar Yevropada bo'lib qaytgan bo'lsa, osonroq bo'larmish, bunga nima deysizlar?
Keyin, boshqa davlatdan USga student viza olsa bo'ladimi, well o'zi qanaqalarini olish imkoni bor chetdan turib?


boshqa davlatdan ham osa boladi man misol uchun J 1 viza ovoganman. istanbulda oqiyman prosta ogaynimi oldiga borish uchun va ushata bir oy english course uchun bormoqchi edim vot man istanbuldegi ozmizani konsulstvaga bordimde okamlaga etim refrence letter yozib berin didim yozib berdila i ras bordim kirdim manga savol berdi nima qilasan eta dib shu englischani ozlashitiraman uyo buyo dib ozbecha mentaliteta obardim... keyin bopti yaxshi yetvolin didi. manga tam 3 min. boldi shakil gapishganimizaga. reski oldim !

yuzizga qaridi boldi uverin busez ketasiz agar chaynalsez ketomisiz.

[Крейсер]

Konsuli - oni smotrat na vseh kak budto oni sami "1-sort" a vse ostalnie kotorie hotyat vizu oni "3-sort". Prosto nado derzko otvechat uverenno i vse budet o.k ( i chtob vse dokumenti bili v poryadke )

Officer: Hi , so you going to US , huh?
Me: Kind of ,
Officer: Why to US? To "this" University?
Me: Why not? i liked it!
Officer: oo i see , u been to London , UK , how was that?
Me: It was Great , i liked it
Officer: When are u planing to come back?
Me: Within 24 hours after my graduation
Officer: xaxa ( smeyotsa ) You can come tomorrow between X am - 3 pm and get your visa
Me: Thanks

prikol...

Here is my shortest interview. I said four words, 5 seconds:

Me: [politely] Hello!
Officer: So... you are going to school
Me: Yes.
Officer: You can pick up your passport tomorrow blah blah
Me: [smile and politely] Thank you.

I must say i had all docs ready and I've been in the US several time before then.

[Kobe]

Hehe mdaa stol'ka postov! Ofiget... nu ya raskaju svoy konsulskiy proces.
Nu kak skazat' umenya zdes' rodstvenniki katoriye citizen oni zdes' uje 13 let
karoche uehali po vize nevesta k jinihu. Karoche ya hotel poluchit' studenchiskoyu vizu F-1, karoche umenya tak poluchilos' chto, na kajdiy vopros konsula ya predyavlyal dokumenti, daje ona hehe sprosila menya kakoy nomer mashini vashey teti v us ya otvetil yey 10 ps 007 hehe
vot i dali mne vizu!
bez problem!
Kstati umenya yest' vopros mne dali na god vizu nu cherez god ya hotchu vernutsya no do etogo ya postuplyu v univer, mne pridetsya zayti v posolstva yeshe raz. Kak vi dumayete oni mogut mne otkazat'? Ya koneshno im pokaju i-20 gde ya uchus' toefl i t.d i t.p , i kstati obezatel'noli predyavlyat opyat vse dokumenti o rodstvennikah v us? Ili unih uje v kompe yest'. Tak kak ona vse dokumenti obsmatrela!

[PHOENIX]

Hehe mdaa stol'ka postov! Ofiget... nu ya raskaju svoy konsulskiy proces.
Nu kak skazat' umenya zdes' rodstvenniki katoriye citizen oni zdes' uje 13 let
karoche uehali po vize nevesta k jinihu. Karoche ya hotel poluchit' studenchiskoyu vizu F-1, karoche umenya tak poluchilos' chto, na kajdiy vopros konsula ya predyavlyal dokumenti, daje ona hehe sprosila menya kakoy nomer mashini vashey teti v us ya otvetil yey 10 ps 007 hehe
vot i dali mne vizu!
bez problem!
Kstati umenya yest' vopros mne dali na god vizu nu cherez god ya hotchu vernutsya no do etogo ya postuplyu v univer, mne pridetsya zayti v posolstva yeshe raz. Kak vi dumayete oni mogut mne otkazat'? Ya koneshno im pokaju i-20 gde ya uchus' toefl i t.d i t.p , i kstati obezatel'noli predyavlyat opyat vse dokumenti o rodstvennikah v us? Ili unih uje v kompe yest'. Tak kak ona vse dokumenti obsmatrela!

"Abdullajon" filmidagi "za kadrom" rus tilida gapirib turadigan odam borku ("Uvajaemiy Stiven aka,..."), o'sha odam yozgandek tuyuldi menga...:lool:

PS: "hehe" dib qo'yishizdan o'rgilay. :D (Yahshi ma'noda, albatta)

[Kobe]

Hehe o'zimni tilimda yozsam tushunmi qolishin mumkinde bratishka!
Nu che ti otvetish na moy ureskes?
sanam qo'shimcha 6 ta tilni o'rganib ko'r =)

[Aabror]

Tushunarli. Ha unda avval Mexicaga viza olib keyin Americaga o'tish haqida ham o'ylab ko'rmabsizlarda. :lool:

:) shunisi qoldi O'zi =))

[Aabror]

Все знают что консулы:usa:, которые интервьюируют наших бедных :rolleyes: соотечественников являются очень хорошими психологами.
Какие вопросы частозадаваемые? Как нужно на них ответить? Что нужно говорить а что строго запрещается? Как всё-таки можно перехитрить:tomato: консула???

Rebyata nenado muchatsya v Tashe polnim polno agentov kotoriye za babki takuyu istoriyu napletut i glavnoye vsemu nauchat. A takje yest' specialniy lyudi kotoriye gotovyat na sobesedoavniye na angliyskom i uchat tipa "tuda ne smori eto ne delay takoy poryadok docov doljen bit' i td"

A kto sam vse gotovit tem bol'shoy respect znachit bashka varit udachi! Glavnoye ispol'zuyte logiku. I uchites' na chujih oshibkah.

[Proserpina]

bir bola kirdi 26 yoshlarda "koplar ota olmayapgan ekan men esa shunchaki omadimni sinamoqchi dep hazillashgan " va viza olgan.
hullas gap bu yerda sizning dokumentlarda emas ammo momulangizda bazan asroto ham kerak,yani ohshatib hazil qilsangiz sizga viza berilshi mumkin.[/quote]


Sencerety иногда является ключем к успеху:frndshp:

[antiSNOB]

Rebyata nenado muchatsya v Tashe polnim polno agentov kotoriye za babki takuyu istoriyu napletut i glavnoye vsemu nauchat. A takje yest' specialniy lyudi kotoriye gotovyat na sobesedoavniye na angliyskom i uchat tipa "tuda ne smori eto ne delay takoy poryadok docov doljen bit' i td"



nesmogli b skinut' na pm kontakt odnu iz nikh... ??

[Unique]

hello hello everyone!!! :D :D :D
this is me again. so basically guyz, I got my I-20 form from the US college via mail. And now I have to make an appointment with somebody in the embassy of Uzbekistan, in Tashkent. I wonder what questions I will be given. For example, if they ask why I want to leave my school in Tashkent and go to the USA.. what should I answer? Oh yeah, I study at IBS in Tashkent. :wink:
Thanks in advance, I hope ur advices will be useful! :rolleyes:

[Пушкарева]

men toje kajetsya prosto nujno bit samim soboy. konsuli ne duraki :) ya nedavno bila v posolstve. otkazivali mnogim. odna babulka prishla, v godah uje, no prikolnaya takaya, veselaya :) yeyo iskrennosti mojno bilo pozavidovat. koroshe skazala, chto ona pensionerka, skzala, kakuyu ona poluchaet pensiyu. no hochet uvidet podrugu kotoruyu en videla 15 let. i yey dali.

tak chto i ti Mehnom girl, skaji vsyu pravdu. prosto rasskaji realno chto k chemu. ti je navernoye znaesh, pochemu ti hochesh uchitsya v US :) u tebya legal documents - trust me, you won;t have any probs

[erkak#1]

men toje kajetsya prosto nujno bit samim soboy. konsuli ne duraki :) ya nedavno bila v posolstve. otkazivali mnogim. odna babulka prishla, v godah uje, no prikolnaya takaya, veselaya :) yeyo iskrennosti mojno bilo pozavidovat. koroshe skazala, chto ona pensionerka, skzala, kakuyu ona poluchaet pensiyu. no hochet uvidet podrugu kotoruyu en videla 15 let. i yey dali.

tak chto i ti Mehnom girl, skaji vsyu pravdu. prosto rasskaji realno chto k chemu. ti je navernoye znaesh, pochemu ti hochesh uchitsya v US :) u tebya legal documents - trust me, you won;t have any probs

Aha! Soglasen...
Mehmon girl, just don't lie that u have $15,000 in your account at NBU! :lool:

[Royal]

hello hello everyone!!! :D :D :D
this is me again. so basically guyz, I got my I-20 form from the US college via mail. And now I have to make an appointment with somebody in the embassy of Uzbekistan, in Tashkent. I wonder what questions I will be given. For example, if they ask why I want to leave my school in Tashkent and go to the USA.. what should I answer? Oh yeah, I study at IBS in Tashkent. :wink:
Thanks in advance, I hope ur advices will be useful! :rolleyes:
Bu yerda bir qancha savollaga javoblar topib u yerga borishingiz manimcha yordam qilishi mumkin, bu yana mani fikrim, ohiri nima boladi bilmadim..

IBSda nimaga oqigansiz ?
Kim maslahat bergan ?
maslahat bergan odamni ishhonasida shu otgan yozda ishlaganmisiz ?
ishlagan joyizdan biror bir maqtov qogozlari yoki/va kichik hodimlikdan teparoq mansabga otkazishganmi ?
Kelajakda osha yerda ishlashingiz uchun osha ioshhona sizni yanada kuchliroq oqishga yuborishga sposorlik qilishi mumkinmi ?
mumkin bolsa ularni shunga bolgan mun osabatlari togrsisida biror bir qogoz bormi ?

shunga ohshagan bir qancha narsalarni toplash mumkin.

[Student06]

I will do everthing to avoid going to the US embassy in Tashkent I don't know why but I’m so nervous when I star thinking that there is a chance of not getting this visa. I’ve gotten visa for 3 times. And I don't know how they decide whether to issue the visa

[Пушкарева]

if your docs are real and ok - then you won;t have any probs getting visa.
first and foremost thing they look at - whether you can afford going to states, for any type of visa.


ps: i like your signature. reasonable one.

I will do everthing to avoid going to the US embassy in Tashkent I don't know why but I’m so nervous when I star thinking that there is a chance of not getting this visa. I’ve gotten visa for 3 times. And I don't know how they decide whether to issue the visa

[zanjir]

манимча ёлгьон гапирмаслик керак. чунки улар прихолог озиз етганиздака.
кегин довдирамаслик хам керак шупха тугьилиб эолиши мумкин.
одамни козига эараб гапира олишингиз керак, ёлгьон болсаям козига тик эараы олсангиз сизга ишонади.
мани хаётиы тайрибамда коп болган бунаэа холат, консул, полице, судя ёки шунчаки домла.

[Unique]

Bu yerda bir qancha savollaga javoblar topib u yerga borishingiz manimcha yordam qilishi mumkin, bu yana mani fikrim, ohiri nima boladi bilmadim..

IBSda nimaga oqigansiz ?
Kim maslahat bergan ?
maslahat bergan odamni ishhonasida shu otgan yozda ishlaganmisiz ?
ishlagan joyizdan biror bir maqtov qogozlari yoki/va kichik hodimlikdan teparoq mansabga otkazishganmi ?
Kelajakda osha yerda ishlashingiz uchun osha ioshhona sizni yanada kuchliroq oqishga yuborishga sposorlik qilishi mumkinmi ?
mumkin bolsa ularni shunga bolgan mun osabatlari togrsisida biror bir qogoz bormi ?

shunga ohshagan bir qancha narsalarni toplash mumkin.

gmmm.... maslahat bergan odam sho'tta, no hali beri praktika yo'q, o'zi o'qishga endi kirdimku, ishlashga hali ulgurmadim. ok, hammasini etganilade qilaman, danke schoen :D
oldin uchrashuv belgilavoli. rahmat kottakon hammani maslaxatlari uchun

P.S. erkak#1, iiii nega etib qo'ydiz???

[The Reaper]

Remember, in most cases, they have a fine tuned BS detector.

To them, each applicant is viewed as a potential illegal immigrant. Therefore, maintain your cool, be confident, and answer questions clearly and spot on.
Bottom line is, even if you don't get a visa that's not the end of your life as far as I'm concerned. I guess that's what makes people lose their calm - being afraid of rejection. Desperation is what kills your chances.

Approach them with confidence and a smile, and try to be be genuine. Say "Hi, how are you doing", and then engage. They are human beings too, you know.

It also wouldn't hurt to imply that you don't have any reasons to violate the immigration code, because you already have some things going on for you at home (perspectives, etc.)
Of course, the language issue is very important, especially when you're filing for a student visa.

Questions are generally the same:
Do you speak English?
What's the purpose of your visit?
Who is going to support you financially?
Do you have any relatives in the US?
What do your parents do?

I think it's easy to understand what kind of answers they look for.

TR

[UzLand]

Questions are generally the same:
Do you speak English?
What's the purpose of your visit?
Who is going to support you financially?
Do you have any relatives in the US?
What do your parents do?

TR

Would you like to be a US President?:twisted:

[Royal]

Would you like to be a US President?:twisted:
Only US Born people can pretend that spot...

[corsair]

Все знают что консулы:usa:, которые интервьюируют наших бедных :rolleyes: соотечественников являются очень хорошими психологами. Многие из нас хотя б 1 раз слышали или непосредственно были участниками прикольных случаев процесса получения виз.

Хотелось бы здесь обсуждать процесс получении nonimmegration visas from USEmbassy in Tashkent. Граждане уже имеющие визу please share us.

Какие вопросы частозадаваемые? Как нужно на них ответить? Что нужно говорить а что строго запрещается? Как всё-таки можно перехитрить:tomato: консула???

u think he/she/they r smart...?:D
they still belive that someone from uzbekistan can afford to pay for his/her study in the usa...
:D

[corsair]

Only US Born people can pretend that spot...

:D :lol: :lol:
u r right!
u should b US born and must have some money (+- 10-20 millions)...

[Пушкарева]

Yesterday I attended a conference on human trafficking in Russia. So presenters, experts from Russia, were talking about ways all those agencies use to send labor and sex migrants abroad. I was amazed to know about tricks people use to get their US and Canada visas. There are people/agencies specializing in preparing a whole package of documents for interviews in the embassies and it includes:

- employment verification (prestigious work place and position)
- bank statement
- family bonds in the country of origin (can make up docs even for non-married young girls as if they have husband and kid/s staying at home):shock:
- invitation letter (from some american family), and
- neatly worked out story on a US host family

They also maintain trainings on interview passing skills.

It just WOW, how creative people are. Someone mentioned above that there are people in UZb who are providing kinda same services...

[Inspiredmind]

Yesterday I attended a conference on human trafficking in Russia. So presenters, experts from Russia, were talking about ways all those agencies use to send labor and sex migrants abroad. I was amazed to know about tricks people use to get their US and Canada visas. There are people/agencies specializing in preparing a whole package of documents for interviews in the embassies and it includes:

- employment verification (prestigious work place and position)
- bank statement
- family bonds in the country of origin (can make up docs even for non-married young girls as if they have husband and kid/s staying at home):shock:
- invitation letter (from some american family), and
- neatly worked out story on a US host family

They also maintain trainings on interview passing skills.

It just WOW, how creative people are. Someone mentioned above that there are people in UZb who are providing kinda same services...


how about you?? how did u go to USA?:D

[Пушкарева]

- got admitted to a university,
- got fully covered by the school (financially),
- got documents certifying that,
- got to the embassy,
- presented them,
- got my visa



how about you?? how did u go to USA?:D

[Inspiredmind]

- got admitted to a university,
- got fully covered by the school (financially),
- got documents certifying that,
- got to the embassy,
- presented them,
- got my visa


Oh my GOD too many things, better i gonna stay my lovely home town:D

[The MINUSCULE MAN]

Vo vremya moego intervyu na vopros kogda ya vernus' nazad, ya skazal chto cherez 3 nedeli u menya svad'ba. Kurs moy bil na 2 nedeli. eta misl' prishla mne v golovu vo vremya interv'yu, t.k. odin iz moih dokumentov bil ne v poryadke, konsul hotel chtobi ya ehal obratno v Ferganu, peredelival ego i potom obratno na novoe intervyu. Ya skazal chto na eto uydyot esho odna nedelya, a u menya kak vidite vremeni net, jenyus' ya skoro i t.d. i t.p. Koroche iz 23 chelovek v tot den' poluchili vizu 2 - e : ya i sportsmenka odna.

[Пушкарева]

hehe :lol: kak davno ti v US, i kak davno bilo interview?


Vo vremya moego intervyu na vopros kogda ya vernus' nazad, ya skazal chto cherez 3 nedeli u menya svad'ba. Kurs moy bil na 2 nedeli. eta misl' prishla mne v golovu vo vremya interv'yu, t.k. odin iz moih dokumentov bil ne v poryadke, konsul hotel chtobi ya ehal obratno v Ferganu, peredelival ego i potom obratno na novoe intervyu. Ya skazal chto na eto uydyot esho odna nedelya, a u menya kak vidite vremeni net, jenyus' ya skoro i t.d. i t.p. Koroche iz 23 chelovek v tot den' poluchili vizu 2 - e : ya i sportsmenka odna.

[melo]

Yesterday I attended a conference on human trafficking in Russia. So presenters, experts from Russia, were talking about ways all those agencies use to send labor and sex migrants abroad. I was amazed to know about tricks people use to get their US and Canada visas. There are people/agencies specializing in preparing a whole package of documents for interviews in the embassies and it includes:

- employment verification (prestigious work place and position)
- bank statement
- family bonds in the country of origin (can make up docs even for non-married young girls as if they have husband and kid/s staying at home):shock:
- invitation letter (from some american family), and
- neatly worked out story on a US host family

They also maintain trainings on interview passing skills.

It just WOW, how creative people are. Someone mentioned above that there are people in UZb who are providing kinda same services...

If people could only use this energy for doing something useful they wouldn't need to come to the US. Exactly what the US needs is more liars and scumbags. :rolleyes:

[The MINUSCULE MAN]

hehe :lol: kak davno ti v US, i kak davno bilo interview?

Ya v UK (dumayu raznitsa v metodah sobesedovaniya mejdu posol'stvami ne bol'shaya). Uje 3.5 goda. Haliyam "uylanmoqdaman". :)

[corsair]

If people could only use this energy for doing something useful they wouldn't need to come to the US. Exactly what the US needs is more liars and scumbags. :rolleyes:

yeap, exactly what usaiii needs more liers and scumbags, just like US goverment :lol: :lol: :lol:

[melo]

yeap, exactly what usaiii needs more liers and scumbags, just like US goverment :lol: :lol: :lol:

I wish it was only the government.:rolleyes:

[Flamingo]

Biza kupchilik edik. Manga navbat ohirida etdi. Kech bulib qolgan edi. Konsulni tug'ilgan kuni ekan. Tort eb utirgan ekan. Pasportimni olib qoldiju "qorningam och qogandir-a ?" dedi.

[The Reaper]

Another advice is, try to view an interviewer as a human being, no better or worse than you. The only difference is that he is behind the window and happens to work at the US Embassy.
People lose it, and start to think as if they are at the gates of Purgatory.
Be yourself. Be calm, and always remember that not getting an American visa is not the worst thing that happens in life.

Remember: First couple of questions, and the last one, are best parts to make a favorable impression. Human psyche tends to frame an opinion of a person based on the beginning and the end of a conversation. In 99% of cases, the middle part doesn't play a major role.

TR

[Unique]

I don't understand what type of letter is required to bring to the interview about the affidavit of financial statement. Is it enough if my sponsor have faxed some lines about that to the US Embassy or what? :rolleyes:

[-Resident-]

I don't understand what type of letter is required to bring to the interview about the affidavit of financial statement. Is it enough if my sponsor have faxed some lines about that to the US Embassy or what? :rolleyes:

I think it depends what kind of visa you getting!

[-Resident-]

Men birinchi bor visa olishimda 2004 yilni boshida biz 6 kishi bo`lganligimiz uchun bizga online aplication ni to`ldirishga majbur qilishgan edi u paytda hali shart emas edi yakka holatda kirganlarga qisqasi hamma qog`ozlarni to`ldirib kirdik faqat ichimizdan bir kishiga ruhsat berishmadi sabab USA dan kelgan DS-2019 formada ismini bitta harf no`tog`ri yozilib qolgan ekan bizga oson bo`lgan tomoni birinchi bo`lib ingliz tilini yahshi biladigan bolani chaqirgan suhbatga u hammasi gapirib bergandan keyin qolganlardan nomiga savol so`rab ertaga kelaverilar deb chiqarvorgan edi! Lekin haligi bola bizdan keyin 3-4 marta kiribdi visa so`rab ololmabdi:(
Keyingi kirishimda esa elchihona yangi jo`yga ko`chib o`tgan ekan ancha katta maydonga lekin ichkariga kirish usullari juda bemani bo`lib qolibdi shunisi yoqmadi.
Qisqasi 20 atrofida odam top`landi kirdik ichkariga menga navbat kelguncha 5-6 odam suhbat qilindi lekin bittasiga berdi visa u ham bo`lsa qanaqadir olim ekan ertasi kuni gaplashib qolgan edik "voyenniy tehnologiyalar " bo`yicha ketyapman dedi yana bilmadim! Lekin u odam bilan consul yoki visa officer juda yahshi gaplashdi ish bo`yicha savol bermasdan o`zaro shunchaki gaplashishdi ertga visangizni olib ketavering dedi.A u odamdan oldin bo`lsa bitta ayol bolasi bilan,bir yigit konferensiyaga ketyapman dedi,bitta oilaviy yana bir ayol ozi hammasiga qayerda yo`q savollarni berib ohirida baribir yo`q afsuski sizga visa berolmayman deb pasportini qaytarib berdi. Shular bilan suhbat qilganlar ikkalasi ham ayol consullar edi lekin ruscha olib bordi suhbatni juda yahshi bilishar ekan rus tilini aksent ham yo`q deyarli.
Keyin meni ham chaqirdi har safar haligi consul ayol kishi chaqirayotgan edi bu safar ham o`sha ayol chaqirdi endi o`sha chaqirgan oynaga qarab ketyapsam bu yoqdan bir erkak kishi "right here" deb qoldi keyin o`sha oynaga qaytdim salomlashgach darrov bu sen "Subject ekansanku 212E" ga dedi men aytdim to`g`ri pasportda visaga shunday lekin aslida "Not subject" bo`lishi kerak edi dedim a u bo`lsa qanaqa isboting bor dedi men eski DS 2019 ni ko`rsatdim va oldin elchihonaga jo`natgan e-mail larni ko`rsatdim shunda u hozir bir daqiqa dedida nariroqqa borib bir ayol kishini chaqirdi va u bilan maslahatlashgach qaytib kelib pasportdagi eski visaga ruchka bilan chizia boshladi :shock:
Keyin bilsam u haligi "Subject..." degan yozuvni o`chirib "not subject "deb yozib qo`ygan ekan...
Qisqasi ertasi kuni kelaver dedi lekin ertasi kuni borsam yo`q hali tayyor bo`lmadi dedi

[-Resident-]

PS: BTW, konsul psiholog, LOL, voobshe v posolstve s vami konsul i ne obshaetsya!!! eto visa officers i oni toje ne psihologi, oni opitniye rabotniki!

Shu yuqoridagi gapni o`qib qoldim hozir nimaga bu odamlar o`zi bilmagan narsalarni ham yozib yuborishadi ekan men shahsan ikki marta kirgan bo`lsam elchihonaga birinchisida vice consul ikkinchisida esa consulni o`zi intervyu
o`tkazgan!

[Пушкарева]

Question: did any uzbek ever visited home while on OPT? Did you then get your visa with no probs to come back to US (based on your OPT I-20)?

[melo]

Another advice is, try to view an interviewer as a human being, no better or worse than you. The only difference is that he is behind the window and happens to work at the US Embassy.
People lose it, and start to think as if they are at the gates of Purgatory.
Be yourself. Be calm, and always remember that not getting an American visa is not the worst thing that happens in life.
[B][U]


:lol: :lol: :lol: Hopefully nobody thinks that. :lol: :lol: :lol: Getting to the US is not such a great thing. I am afraid when people get to the US they must be terribly disappointed. :shock:

[Prince]

Question: did any uzbek ever visited home while on OPT? Did you then get your visa with no probs to come back to US (based on your OPT I-20)?

Nezabudka ,
Once you get your OPT , you cannot come back based on that, however if you applied to Graduate or to other school , you can still come back as the student, but i it's gonna take be same visa!
P.S: You cant travel with OPT

[SmIlIk]

Nezabudka,

Prince is somewhat right. You can travel while your OPT appplication is pending and yet not approved. But you cannot travel after your OPT appl. is approved UNLESS you have a job and returning to resume your employment.

If you will have to leave, make sure you have all documents needed to renenter the country.

1. Valid F1 visa
2. Valid Passport
3. Valid I-20
4. Job offer letter
5. Valid EAD-Employment Autharization Document from INS (USCIS)

Clarify everything with your school before you do anything. Or do not risk traveling if you are not sure :)


Good luck

SMLK

[Пушкарева]

Well, the international students' office of my uni says that although it is risky, students still stravel and never had any probs to come back once they have employer's letter. Maybe bc they are from different countries..

Is there anyone who did it before? I've heard from my uzbek friend that her acquaintances were denied visa while on OPT. Althoigh, as I said, other international students do come back. Confused. :rolleyes:

I did not get the highlighted remark though. Could you restate it?


Nezabudka ,
Once you get your OPT , you cannot come back based on that, however if you applied to Graduate or to other school , you can still come back as the student, but i it's gonna take be same visa!
P.S: You cant travel with OPT

[Пушкарева]

Here are the points:

- My school says - you should be ok.
- Its not yet clear if I have an employer by that time (internship - yes, for sure)

Saying job, do you mean the type of employer who will sponsor me for the H1B, or just the one who hires me for the OPT duration?



Nezabudka,

Prince is somewhat right. You can travel while your OPT appplication is pending and yet not approved. But you cannot travel after your OPT appl. is approved UNLESS you have a job and returning to resume your employment.

If you will have to leave, make sure you have all documents needed to renenter the country.

1. Valid F1 visa
2. Valid Passport
3. Valid I-20
4. Job offer letter
5. Valid EAD-Employment Autharization Document from INS (USCIS)

Clarify everything with your school before you do anything. Or do not risk traveling if you are not sure :)


Good luck

SMLK

[SmIlIk]

Here are the points:

- My school says - you should be ok.
- Its not yet clear if I have an employer by that time (internship - yes, for sure)

Saying job, do you mean the type of employer who will sponsor me for the H1B, or just the one who hires me for the OPT duration?

The one that hires you for the OPT duration. Optional Practical Training considered to be somewhat job after you graduate. That's why you also apply for work permit (EAD).

[Пушкарева]

I am well informed what OPT is (processing applications every day myself ;)). But, do you think I can get a new visa based on the OPT I-20? They deny it to uzbeks, dont they?


The one that hires you for the OPT duration. Optional Practical Training considered to be somewhat job after you graduate. That's why you also apply for work permit (EAD).

[Prince]

OPT is work permit , but not for re entering to US,
Lets say you got your OPT and then been accepted to Graduate School. If you got your new I-20 , you can go with that... but not with OPT only
Cheers,

[SmIlIk]

I am well informed what OPT is (processing applications every day myself ;)). But, do you think I can get a new visa based on the OPT I-20? They deny it to uzbeks, dont they?

Depends on that uzbek and his/her job offer, I guess :)

[Пушкарева]

Thank you Smilik and Prince. Just wanna go and see my parents very much, but will be on OPT then. :rolleyes:

Depends on that uzbek and his/her job offer, I guess :)

[Mirzabek]

Men bir martda USA borib keldim...
Vizani Turkiyada olganman...eee bu USA posolstvalari hammasi yomon.
Oynani nargi joyida otirvolib ozini bir narsa deb oyledi maymunlar...
Visani osongina berdi, lekin konsul bilan gaplashtim angliz tilida ancha suhbat qildik. Menga USA dan bolla priglasheniye jonatishkan edi.
Konsul bilan salomlashgach va ozgina suhbat qilgandan kegin, soradi nimaga ketyabsan deb?
Ha endi dunyo kezgani USA nima ekanligini bir ko`rib kelay dedim lekin uncha ham havasim yok boraman menga viza bering demayabman, bersela borib kelaman, a tak bu yerda menga yaxshi ishim bor normalniy tolashyabdi, men direktorman firmada. Men ish uchun ketganim yo`q. dedim
Oylanib turib kancha bo`lasan dedi?
Cavob bir oy.
Hullas kalom viza berdi va uyiga taklif qildi USA da. rostanam USA da vashintonga bordim. Ochiq ochiq gapirsen berar ekan shu. Madrajda gapirib hayaconlanib tursan ha yana bitta latta keldi deb oylashadi

[sherbola]

Men 2 kundan keyin viza olgani interview'ga kiraman. Tassurotlarimni o'shanda yozarman. Hozircha shu forumda yozilgan gaplarni hazm qilyapman. Menga birmuncha yordam bo'lsa kerak. Hammaga rahmat!

Qiziq, shu gaplani hammasini konsul o'qib chiqsa nima bo'larkin?

[Elvie]

Salom Odamla!!!

Man hozir US'da 2 yildan beri F-1 visa'da oqiyapman. Visam mana shu yilni (2007) May oylarida tugashi kerak. Lekin shu o'tgan yilni ichida man boshqa universitetga Transfer qilib oldim, ( 4 yillikka ), va mana uje 2 semester'dan beri boshqa universitetta oqiyapman. Uydagilarni juda sog'inib kettim, korib kelgim kevotti. Lekin bu qanchalik risk bilmiyamman. Hozir Consul'stvada qanaqa ahvol? F-1 visa berishvotti mi? Mani visamni RENEW qilib berisharmikan???
Agar huddi mandaka holatga duch keganlar bosa, iltimos taasurotlarizni yozvorila shotga! Juda minnatdor bolardim!

rahmat,
Elvie

[Prince]

Hullas kalom agar baholar , uqishlarni tolash bilan problema bomasa bemalol boruring - beradi! Qatga? boradimi sizga visa bermi!? Siz legalno yashab kevosa amerikada - shunga sizga brishi kerak! :insha:
Transcriptlarizzi ovoling, pullariz tolanganligi xaqida qogoz xam ovoling, hullas uqishga tegishli xamma hujjatlarni ovolib boravering qorqman!
Hudo hohlasa beradi!!!

[neznakomec]

Salom hammaga man sila yozgan narsalani hammasini erinmasdan oqib chiqdim va QOYILMAN . Bizani ozbek bolla nimala qilishmidi . Ha ogainila otga borganga yarasha qancha topsa boladi ham oqib ham ishlab. Endi mani holatim manda viza bor work viza UAE (Dubayga, man buni birinchi marta yozivotganim yo)man srazu ottan mani ortogim USA da mana uni priglasheniyasi deb va qogan hamma qogozzlarini qilsam nima javob olaman . "San nima qivossan UAE degi USA ambassysida yoqol vataningdan ol, tem bolee san OZB fuqarosisan " degan javob omimanmi? Travel viza olgandan keyin otta srazu F-1 ga ozgartirsa boladimi yo man masalan Canadaga chiqib ottan turib USA da oqish topib USa ga kelishim keremi obratno F-1 qilib?

[Elvie]

Rahmat sovetiz uchun Prince!

Man oqishga gde to 70%'ga Scholarship yutganman, qoganiga esa sobiq US hostfamilim Loan co-sign qilib berdi. U ham uncha muncha pul emas.

Lekin faqat, shu otgan yil 2 yilli colllege'ni 1 yilda bitirdim, va Associate degree olishim bilan OPT ovoldim, na vsakiy sluchay. Status'siz qob ketmi deb! Keyin esa yarim yildan song oqishni boshladim yangi universitetta. Shunga nimega OPT oldin, niyating oqish edi ku deb problema qimasmikan Consulstvo?


Elvie.


Hullas kalom agar baholar , uqishlarni tolash bilan problema bomasa bemalol boruring - beradi! Qatga? boradimi sizga visa bermi!? Siz legalno yashab kevosa amerikada - shunga sizga brishi kerak! :insha:
Transcriptlarizzi ovoling, pullariz tolanganligi xaqida qogoz xam ovoling, hullas uqishga tegishli xamma hujjatlarni ovolib boravering qorqman!
Hudo hohlasa beradi!!!

[Prince]

Elvie - OPT ogan bosez xech nima qilmaydi legalnosizku xali xam , orasida nelegal bup qogan paytiz yoq shunga legalno hisoblasiz, qorqmasdan boruring! Nimadan qorqas? Bemalol, boruring beradi :insha:

[Borz_man]

Salom hammaga man sila yozgan narsalani hammasini erinmasdan oqib chiqdim va QOYILMAN . Bizani ozbek bolla nimala qilishmidi . Ha ogainila otga borganga yarasha qancha topsa boladi ham oqib ham ishlab. Endi mani holatim manda viza bor work viza UAE (Dubayga, man buni birinchi marta yozivotganim yo)man srazu ottan mani ortogim USA da mana uni priglasheniyasi deb va qogan hamma qogozzlarini qilsam nima javob olaman . "San nima qivossan UAE degi USA ambassysida yoqol vataningdan ol, tem bolee san OZB fuqarosisan " degan javob omimanmi? Travel viza olgandan keyin otta srazu F-1 ga ozgartirsa boladimi yo man masalan Canadaga chiqib ottan turib USA da oqish topib USa ga kelishim keremi obratno F-1 qilib?


Viza chenge ni soginib qoldizmi?LooooL.
Sizga maslahat,agar viza olmoqchi bo'lsanghiz
celary certefikat ovoling.Bankdan ham ohirgi 3 oydagi
kirdi-chiqdi steytmentini oling.UAE da 6 oydan ko'p
ishlagan bo'lishingiz kerak.Ishlayatgan firmezdan
amriqo bilan kontrakt bo'lsa ancha qo'l keladi.
Safarizda dinizga hayrlik tilab qolaman.

[sherbola]

Mani eslavossilami, forumshunosla? Man uje 1 oydan beri USdaman. Oregonga harakt qigandim. Konsulni rassa qulog'iga lag'monni osib, ustidan sous qilib yarim-qalbaki hujjatlani ko'rsatgandim, ishondi! To'g'risi, rostdanam Shustriy bo'lish kere ekan. Gapda tutilmasdan huddi sergap olib qochar bollaga o'zshab bemalol lag'monni osseyz, olasiz vizani. Faqat har bir lag'mon uchun qayla qilib u-bu qog'oz to'girlab olish esdan chiqmasin. A to o'xshamiy qolishi mumkin.

Mana shu forum thread manga viza olishimda, interviewga tayyorlanishimda ancha yordam berdi. Kotta rahmat!!! Maslahatim, butun threaddagi postlani hazil va chinini ajratib chiqing, yaxshilab tayyorlaning va 100$ va boshqa sarflayotgan pullarizga umuma achinmasdan, qo'rqmasdan interviewga boring. a to shuni deb ham ko'pchilik hayajonlanib qovun tushirib kelishadi...

Hammaga omad! USA keliyla, umuman achinmisla, bo'ttiyam yaqinda UZA qilamiz!

[Lolahon]

Mani eslavossilami, forumshunosla? Man uje 1 oydan beri USdaman. Oregonga harakt qigandim. Konsulni rassa qulog'iga lag'monni osib, ustidan sous qilib yarim-qalbaki hujjatlani ko'rsatgandim, ishondi! To'g'risi, rostdanam Shustriy bo'lish kere ekan. Gapda tutilmasdan huddi sergap olib qochar bollaga o'zshab bemalol lag'monni osseyz, olasiz vizani. Faqat har bir lag'mon uchun qayla qilib u-bu qog'oz to'girlab olish esdan chiqmasin. A to o'xshamiy qolishi mumkin.

Mana shu forum thread manga viza olishimda, interviewga tayyorlanishimda ancha yordam berdi. Kotta rahmat!!! Maslahatim, butun threaddagi postlani hazil va chinini ajratib chiqing, yaxshilab tayyorlaning va 100$ va boshqa sarflayotgan pullarizga umuma achinmasdan, qo'rqmasdan interviewga boring. a to shuni deb ham ko'pchilik hayajonlanib qovun tushirib kelishadi...

Hammaga omad! USA keliyla, umuman achinmisla, bo'ttiyam yaqinda UZA qilamiz!

Sherbola, lag'mon chuzib qaysi kategoriya vizasini olib chiqdingiz, studentmi or tourist?

[Elvie]

Savol:

Green Card lottery oynaganligim meni Ozbekistonga borib student visam'ni (F1) yangilatishga (renew) ta'sir ko'rsatishi mumkin mi?

Iltimos, bilganlar fikrilani yozib yuborila!!!

oldindan rahmat,

Elvie

[Googler]

Savol:

Green Card lottery oynaganligim meni Ozbekistonga borib student visam'ni (F1) yangilatishga (renew) ta'sir ko'rsatishi mumkin mi?

Iltimos, bilganlar fikrilani yozib yuborila!!!

oldindan rahmat,

Elvie

Your application to DV lottery does not mean that you have immigration intentions. If you win and then apply for AOS then the case is different. Once you submit your I-485 then you will not be able to apply for F-1 extention etc. But at that stage you don't care because you have the green card at your hand.To be absolutely safe, it is best to go to your home consulate after winning DV to get your GC rather than going for AOS. That will rule out you missing 30 Sept. deadline due to AOS delay. This is more important if your number becomes current in later part of year. :)

[Royal]

Savol:

Green Card lottery oynaganligim meni Ozbekistonga borib student visam'ni (F1) yangilatishga (renew) ta'sir ko'rsatishi mumkin mi?

Iltimos, bilganlar fikrilani yozib yuborila!!!

oldindan rahmat,

Elvie
hamma oynavotti, lekin yutganla ancha kam...shuni uchun oynagan bilan yutganni ortasida kotta farq bor...

[melo]

Your application to DV lottery does not mean that you have immigration intentions. If you win and then apply for AOS then the case is different. Once you submit your I-485 then you will not be able to apply for F-1 extention etc. But at that stage you don't care because you have the green card at your hand.To be absolutely safe, it is best to go to your home consulate after winning DV to get your GC rather than going for AOS. That will rule out you missing 30 Sept. deadline due to AOS delay. This is more important if your number becomes current in later part of year. :)

I have heard by applying for the green card lottery that it is an intention to immigrate and will be weighed heavily against your chances of receiving a non immigrant visa.

[Elvie]

Thank you Googler,

I was just wondering whether the Consulate in Uzbekistan would have information on who actually participated in DVLottery. But overall, I have been in the US for abt. 3 years: went to High School, went to College and now I transferred to a 4 year university.
So, since my visa that I obtained for a 2 year college has expired this month, I wanted to go back home and get it renewed. Just wondering what is the situation like over there in Uzb. at this moment. Are they being very strict???

Elvie

Your application to DV lottery does not mean that you have immigration intentions. If you win and then apply for AOS then the case is different. Once you submit your I-485 then you will not be able to apply for F-1 extention etc. But at that stage you don't care because you have the green card at your hand.To be absolutely safe, it is best to go to your home consulate after winning DV to get your GC rather than going for AOS. That will rule out you missing 30 Sept. deadline due to AOS delay. This is more important if your number becomes current in later part of year. :)

[Elvie]

Juguar Paw,

What if I have a student status at the moment, and already have a visa... but just want to get it renewed?

Did you have this kinda situation yourself? or somebody you know?? did they have a student visa too? or another type? So what happened? did they get rejected?

Thank you so much,

Elvie

I have heard by applying for the green card lottery that it is an intention to immigrate and will be weighed heavily against your chances of receiving a non immigrant visa.

[SPECTACLE]

council: hi, how are you today?
me: I am ok, feeling almost in US
council: Why are you going to college?
Why do you want Ass.Degree while you are studying here for B.A?

me: system is not proper, here I have to study 15 subjects at a time, there will be my choice.

council: can I have your bank statement paper?
me: sure

council: your application for approved your can pick it up tomorrow at 4.

me: glad to talk to you

[SPECTACLE]

karochi mani kolejga borgim kemiyabdi, bu yerda nelegal bulib turish qanchali hatarli, what is the risk of their finding me?

[SmIlIk]

Juguar Paw,

What if I have a student status at the moment, and already have a visa... but just want to get it renewed?

Did you have this kinda situation yourself? or somebody you know?? did they have a student visa too? or another type? So what happened? did they get rejected?

Thank you so much,

Elvie

ELVIE,

There are lots of student who renew their student F1 Visa. Do not fuss over it too much and just have all your docs in tact. Do not lie and do not be nervous. It is just visa and not the end of your life :) So, try to relax. I personally know many peoplpe who went through that process.

SMLK

[Elvie]

SmIlIk,

I understand SmIlIk, but after getting rejected once, that's what apparently happens to people: We become over cautious!
I think it is better if I ask as much as I can from those who had experiences with these issues, rather than ... ending up doing something that could cause me lose something valuable for which I had to go through so much hardship to achieve!

Thank you for your advises! I really appreciate it!

Elvie.

ELVIE,

There are lots of student who renew their student F1 Visa. Do not fuss over it too much and just have all your docs in tact. Do not lie and do not be nervous. It is just visa and not the end of your life :) So, try to relax. I personally know many peoplpe who went through that process.

SMLK

[Lolahon]

somebody is gonna entertain my question? (like asking in restaurant "somebody is gonna serve me?":D )

Na vashem meste ya bi nikuda ne visovyvovas' poka ne poluchil/poluchila green card. Esli otvechat' vashemu voprosu, ve ne smojete poluchit' visu based on OPT/post period of OPT, tolko mojete poluchit' osnovovays' na uchyobi, to yest' vi doljni predostavit' i20 podverjdayushiy chto deystvitelno statuse studenta ili budete uchitsya. Poetomu sovetuyu obnovit' vizu poka vi zachesleny v univere s deystvuyeshim i20 form. Hotya vi skazali chto u vas odin semestr do zaversheniya uchyobi, to nam koroche pisat' vam soveti, no vam reshat' i poluchat'/ne poluchat' visu.

[Lolahon]

ne ponyal...zanchit ya doljen podojdat poka ne poluchu grin kartu.:rolleyes: a kak mojno poluchit to, ne podskajete? ili vi imeete v vidu marriage?

ponyatno...znachit riskovanno, da? a chto esli poedu letom? to yest ya je napisal chto prodlivayu I20 i U mneya budet noviy I-20. ne dadut vizu vse taki? esli vse poluchitsa uspeshno i mne dadut vizu, ya potom vo vremya opt ne budu nikuda ehat, ne budu visovovatsa.:D

Yest' razniye puti polucheniya green card, vam reshat' kakim putyom yego dobivatsya, eto uje drugoy topic. Eto bilo prosto obshee zayavleniye -- luchshe obustroitsya pered chem yehat' domoy. Ya prosto hotela skazat' chto bi vi proschitali vse shagi pered chem vi poyedite domoy. Hotya net garantiye togo poluchite vi tochno ili net. Yesli vi uvereny v sebe i u vas vse documenti v poryadke, to why not? A ne hotite pobrobivat' poluchit' visu cherez US embassy in Canada, tam slishala vsyo proshe, i potom mogli bi domoy yehat' uje s novoy visoy and no hassle applying visa in Uzb.

[lilbit]

vot zaciklilsya narod na etoi green card. Uje ne dumayut o jizni, dumayut ob etoi kartochke! Jit' nado rebyata!!!! Jit'!!!!
A jit' mojno vezde! Esli sujdeno jit' v US - budete! i konsul US zdes' ne pomeha!

[Lolahon]

vot zaciklilsya narod na etoi green card. Uje ne dumayut o jizni, dumayut ob etoi kartochke! Jit' nado rebyata!!!! Jit'!!!!
A jit' mojno vezde! Esli sujdeno jit' v US - budete! i konsul US zdes' ne pomeha!

Dorogoy Lilbit, ne nado tak pereborshat', ne o somoy kartochke lyudi dumayut , a tom chto pozvolyayet