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fantom
05-12-2006, 01:35 PM
Hi everyone,
Does anyone know of someone who actually recieved the no objection waiver from US? If so, what was it based on?(asylum, marriage, no objection letter from UZB, etc)
Thanks in advance,
cheers
Royal
05-13-2006, 07:05 PM
Hi everyone,
Does anyone know of someone who actually recieved the no objection waiver from US? If so, what was it based on?(asylum, marriage, no objection letter from UZB, etc)
Thanks in advance,
cheers
I think that is not a problem, prolem is : DO THEY GONNA HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO YOUR NO OBJECTION PAPERS ???
krokobazuka
05-13-2006, 09:34 PM
I have a J-1 with no 2 year period home stay requirement. I have no idea why I was given such visa... It's pretty much up to university and US embassy
forex
05-13-2006, 09:58 PM
I have a J-1 with no 2 year period home stay requirement. I have no idea why I was given such visa... It's pretty much up to university and US embassy
I think that they can't make you serve 212-E section more than one time.This is the only thing I can think of.
As for getting "No Objection Waiver",I know couple of guys who have received it.One of them from Uzbek govt.It all depends on what kind of situation you have.I must admit,this is a pretty bad situation to be in,I think it will be easier to go back home and serve it:)
Hamitovich
05-17-2006, 01:29 AM
I have a J-1 with no 2 year period home stay requirement. I have no idea why I was given such visa... It's pretty much up to university and US embassy It's pretty much up to the Law, actually. Home residence requirement is mainly for exchange visitors if their participation in an exchange program was financed in whole or in part, directly or indirectly, by a United States government agency or by the government of the country of his or her nationality or last foreign residence and two other conditions are for residents of "special" countries and medical students. Not all of J-visas under these categories. If you are not in these categories than you are fine and it is not up to the Universities and US Embassy to put that requirement on you. They simply can't, I think.
And about no objection waiver. I didn't understand the question, honestly. Are you applying for permanent residence or H-1? if you are applying for other types of non-immigrant visa you may change, in my opinion, even though u got 2 year home residence requirement. They can waive the home residence requirement if you are married or have a children who are US Citizens or Permanent Residents if you prove that they will experience exceptional hardships if you leave them or if you prove that you will be persecuted on the base of your religion, beliefs, homosexuality, political affiliations and etc. There is also another basis for a waiver but I don't think that it worth discussing since I don't know your case in detail.
Hamitovich
05-17-2006, 01:34 AM
I must admit,this is a pretty bad situation to be in,I think it will be easier to go back home and serve it:) I wouldn't do it..it is much better to meet a girl of your dream who is a US citizen and marry her. Make someone's life happy and get your citizenship. There is no free lunch, dude;)
fantom
05-18-2006, 12:25 PM
Thanks everyone for the responses. My situation is I was on j-1. I only have a few months left on my 2 year home residency requirement since i had been home after my J-1. Now i m on H1 and can't leave US without staying out for those few months. I am trying to apply for the waiver from US. For that, i am trying to get a 'no objection" statement from UZB which is so painful without having good connections. I am wondering if anyone followed this path and actually was successful.
Forex_Dealer, you said you know someone who did. Can you please elaborate on how he/she did? Is this person on this forum to talk to?
Thank you
forex
05-18-2006, 12:28 PM
I wouldn't do it..it is much better to meet a girl of your dream who is a US citizen and marry her. Make someone's life happy and get your citizenship. There is no free lunch, dude;)
temporarily banned,nice job:)
Actually,even if you meet the girl of your dream or become somebody's dream,you still have to serve the requirement.Immigration officers do take it into consideration.You will either have to get it served or waived.
forex
05-18-2006, 12:32 PM
Thanks everyone for the responses. My situation is I was on j-1. I only have a few months left on my 2 year home residency requirement since i had been home after my J-1. Now i m on H1 and can't leave US without staying out for those few months. I am trying to apply for the waiver from US. For that, i am trying to get a 'no objection" statement from UZB which is so painful without having good connections. I am wondering if anyone followed this path and actually was successful.
Forex_Dealer, you said you know someone who did. Can you please elaborate on how he/she did? Is this person on this forum to talk to?
Thank you
First question,why are you trying to get the waiver?If you already have your H1b?I assume,you are planning to apply for permanent residence.
If you are an UMID student or anything like that,you will actually have to pay whatever you owe in order to get a letter of "no obejction".That letter has to go through Ministry of Foreign Affairs,Embassy of Uzbekistan in the US and Department of State.
You have been pretty lucky they changed your status to H1b,in most cases it's required that you serve the 2 year requirement.
I am sorry I can't be of much help except for advising to pay your sponsors or try to find some kind of "big wig" who can help you out with the letter.
Ulugbek_99
05-18-2006, 03:00 PM
I think that person is not subject to 2 year home residence requirement if they are coming to US on F1 or B1 visa types. I didn't serve 2 years at home, after more than a year, I applied for F1 and got it.
Ya_Hamitovich
05-18-2006, 11:13 PM
Thanks everyone for the responses. My situation is I was on j-1. I only have a few months left on my 2 year home residency requirement since i had been home after my J-1. Now i m on H1 and can't leave US without staying out for those few months. I am trying to apply for the waiver from US. For that, i am trying to get a 'no objection" statement from UZB which is so painful without having good connections. I am wondering if anyone followed this path and actually was successful.
Forex_Dealer, you said you know someone who did. Can you please elaborate on how he/she did? Is this person on this forum to talk to?
Thank you I don't get it. Honestly. How did you get H-1? You might not be eligible even for H-1!!! You simply may not get H1 visa or status if you didn't serve your two year requirement. Check Immigration and Naturalization Act Section 212(e).
Ya_Hamitovich
05-18-2006, 11:17 PM
I think that person is not subject to 2 year home residence requirement if they are coming to US on F1 or B1 visa types. I didn't serve 2 years at home, after more than a year, I applied for F1 and got it. We are talking about J-1, sir!
Martingale
05-18-2006, 11:20 PM
I don't get it. Honestly. How did you get H-1? You might not be eligible even for H-1!!! You simply may not get H1 visa or status if you didn't serve your two year requirement.
who told ya that? go read the chapters that you missed in the class, MR Lawyer. J-1 requirement pops up only when you are applying for per. residency, as far as Im concerned. I heard of few guys who got their H-1 right after j-1...no further details please...:)
Ya_Hamitovich
05-18-2006, 11:21 PM
temporarily banned,nice job:)
Actually,even if you meet the girl of your dream or become somebody's dream,you still have to serve the requirement.Immigration officers do take it into consideration.You will either have to get it served or waived. You don't need to. The fact that you are married to a US Citizen or have a child and proof that they will have experience extreme hardship is the ground for a waiver! Once it is waive you don't have to go to serve that ****ing requirement. Check INA section 212(e) and Code of Federal Regulations Section 212.7, senior!
Ya_Hamitovich
05-18-2006, 11:24 PM
who told ya that? go read the chapters that you missed in the class, MR Lawyer. J-1 requirement pops up only when you are applying for per. residency, as far as Im concerned. I heard of few guys who got their H-1 right after j-1...no further details please...:) It is impossible unless they have a waiver! And YES, it "pops up" when you are applying for H1 visas. You are telling me of what you have "HEARD" and don't accuse me of my irresponsibility to my classes, please. Mr. Lawyer!
And if you are so knowledgable and better than me in immigration law, then you should know that not all J-1 visas have 2 year home residence requirement. Could those guys be under that category?
Martingale
05-18-2006, 11:27 PM
There is also another basis for a waiver but I don't think that it worth discussing since I don't know your case in detail.
can you be more specific regarding this point? :P
Martingale
05-18-2006, 11:30 PM
It is impossible unless they have a waiver! And YES, it "pops up" when you are applying for H1 visas. You are telling me of what you have "HEARD" and don't accuse me of my irresponsibility to my classes, please. Mr. Lawyer!
I was told that j-1 reqirement can be extended for some amount of years. You don't have to serve the requirement right after the completion of j-1. you can put it off and meanwhile be eligible for h-1...I think now you missed lots of classes.
sir, Im using such word as "heard" and "told", as I don't assure people for the vailidity of my words for 100%. however, I did not hear anything from the person, who claims to be taking american bar exam soon, to deny my arguments by citing from laws or ordinances.
Ya_Hamitovich
05-19-2006, 12:11 AM
I was told that j-1 reqirement can be extended for some amount of years. You don't have to serve the requirement right after the completion of j-1. you can put it off and meanwhile be eligible for h-1...I think now you missed lots of classes. It is very interesting fact if it is true that requirement can be postponed and at the same time you are eligible for h1. I can't beleive it. But on emotional point: I missed lots of classes and stupid because you have heard of something which you even don't know whether its true. Is it your logic?
sir, Im using such word as "heard" and "told", as I don't assure people for the vailidity of my words for 100%. Sir, but it gives you 100% assurance to accuse others of their stupidity.
however, I did not hear anything from the person, who claims to be taking american bar exam soon, to deny my arguments by citing from laws or ordinances. If your arguments were supported with something instead of mere "I've heard, I've told" I would bring some "ordinances" (do you know what ordinance means?)
Ya_Hamitovich
05-19-2006, 12:18 AM
can you be more specific regarding this point? :P Yes, other two grounds for a waiver are pursuant to the request of (1) interested US Government Agency (CIA?) and (2)State Public Health Department regarding medical students.
Martingale
05-19-2006, 12:22 AM
It is very interesting fact if it is true that requirement can be postponed and at the same time you are eligible for h1. I can't beleive it. But on emotional point: I missed lots of classes and stupid because you have heard of something which you even don't know whether its true. Is it your logic?
Sir, but it gives you 100% assurance to accuse others of their stupidity.
take it easy, man. I was just joking.;)
If your arguments were supported with something instead of mere "I've heard, I've told" I would bring some "ordinances" (do you know what ordinance means?)
"ordinances" are actually state-issued laws.:D
some immigration laws of california differs from the ones in FL, for instance.
Martingale
05-19-2006, 12:24 AM
Yes, other two grounds for a waiver are pursuant to the request of (1) interested US Government Agency (CIA?) and (2)State Public Health Department regarding medical students.
yep, for example nurses and also if you work for some kind of government-sponsored projects such as Applachian area development:D , you might be waived...I knew this dammit..I need some other reasons...:lol:
Ya_Hamitovich
05-19-2006, 12:29 AM
yep, for example nurses and also if you work for some kind of government-sponsored projects such as Applachian area development:D , you might be waived...I knew this dammit..I need some other reasons...:lol: I am afraid that there are no any other reasons. Everything has limits. But if you find out, let us know.
Martingale
05-19-2006, 12:35 AM
I am afraid that there are no any other reasons. Everything has limits. But if you find out, let us know.
sure...you will be the first one;)
fantom
05-19-2006, 11:45 AM
First question,why are you trying to get the waiver?If you already have your H1b?I assume,you are planning to apply for permanent residence.
If you are an UMID student or anything like that,you will actually have to pay whatever you owe in order to get a letter of "no obejction".That letter has to go through Ministry of Foreign Affairs,Embassy of Uzbekistan in the US and Department of State.
You have been pretty lucky they changed your status to H1b,in most cases it's required that you serve the 2 year requirement.
I am sorry I can't be of much help except for advising to pay your sponsors or try to find some kind of "big wig" who can help you out with the letter.
1. For H1B, they do not look to see if you have satisfied 2 year home residency. So, you can convert to H1B without satisfying the rule.
2. Once you are on H1B, and you still have some time left on the home residency rule, then you cant' leave the US and come back in before you satisfy the entire time. For people with jobs, that is not a good situation to be in if you have to leave the US for long period of time.
3. I do not owe anythiing to UZB since they didn't sponsor my J-1 or my education. So, i dont' have to pay them anything. And you are right about the "big wig" but i don't have it.
Thanks, everyone
SmIlIk
05-20-2006, 08:48 PM
1. For H1B, they do not look to see if you have satisfied 2 year home residency. So, you can convert to H1B without satisfying the rule.
2. Once you are on H1B, and you still have some time left on the home residency rule, then you cant' leave the US and come back in before you satisfy the entire time. For people with jobs, that is not a good situation to be in if you have to leave the US for long period of time.
3. I do not owe anythiing to UZB since they didn't sponsor my J-1 or my education. So, i dont' have to pay them anything. And you are right about the "big wig" but i don't have it.
Thanks, everyone
Hamitovich is right. It is very interesting that you could get H1B without compleating 2 year h.r.r. Unless it is your OPT year.
If goverenment of UZB never sponsored your studies, you shouldnt bother seeking No Objection Letter from Uzbekistan. Most likely you are an Accels students. If that is the case your lawyer should be able to easily negotiate with US government.
MUHLIS
03-31-2007, 04:00 PM
..not all J-1 visas have 2 year home residence requirement. Could those guys be under that category?
I am also interested in this topic. I held J1 visa and served 2 yr hrr afterwards. Now I am about to apply for another J1, but this time withoud Federal Government funding. Does it mean my J1 visa would not require me to serve 2 yr hrr?
tash_rustam
04-01-2007, 09:45 PM
I tried to get it but was not successful. By law it is easier to get a refugee status than get a waiver. I could not get it waived and moved to Canada. I am happy here. Actually, I know three more people who could not change their status and ended up here.
It is not correct that INS does not look at previous J program when it decides on H1B visa. Please look at the back of your pink form (IAP-66). It says that you are not eligible for H1B or a green card.
You are a former ACCELS student then most likely two-year home residency requirement is applicable to you because ACCELS is sponsored by the US government. You should check with ACCELS in Washington for more details or look at your pink form (IAP-66).
SmIlIk
04-01-2007, 09:53 PM
I am also interested in this topic. I held J1 visa and served 2 yr hrr afterwards. Now I am about to apply for another J1, but this time withoud Federal Government funding. Does it mean my J1 visa would not require me to serve 2 yr hrr?
MUHLIS, if you apply for another J1 sponsoring yourself (or by some other private means) make sure you tell that to consul while applying for student visa... This way you will not be obliged to come back home for 2 years.
SMLK
Arhimed
04-02-2007, 12:41 AM
yep, for example nurses and also if you work for some kind of government-sponsored projects such as Applachian area development:D , you might be waived...I knew this dammit..I need some other reasons...:lol:
bor narsa, bittasi Muskiedan (Accels) keyin USda ishga qoldi, US domestic projectga ishga olingani uchun
lekin ko'p narsa J1 bergan sponsorga bo'gliq
Puzojitel'
07-15-2007, 11:57 AM
I am also interested in this topic. I held J1 visa and served 2 yr hrr afterwards. Now I am about to apply for another J1, but this time withoud Federal Government funding. Does it mean my J1 visa would not require me to serve 2 yr hrr?
Hm? J1 ni faqatgina bir marta beradi deb eshitgan edim...? 2-marta ham olsa bo'ladimi?
Puzojitel'
07-15-2007, 12:03 PM
2 yillikni waive qilish juda ham qiyin... Nechi marta o'zimizni embassyga qildim telefon, hat ham yozishga harakat qildim, lekin web site da bergan e-mail adresi noto'g'riligi uchun hatlarim qaytib kelaverdi. Telefon qilib message lar qoldirdim.... voobshe, hech kim qaytib telefon qilmadi menga... NYC dagiga telefon qilsam, DC ga qiling deyishdi, DC ga telefon qilsam hech kim trubkani olmadi... nu i dela.
Ohiri harakat ham qilmay qo'ydim.
Bir Peru lik tanishim bor edi, embassysiga telefon qilib 3 kunda "No Objection" ni oldida 2 oyda 2 yillikni waive qildirdi.... U ostal'nih tak prosto eto navernoye tol'ko u nas...
Hotya ho'jainim ikkalamiz, o'zimiz programmaga pul to'lab kelganmiz.
Akademik
07-15-2007, 05:44 PM
2 yillikni waive qilish juda ham qiyin... Nechi marta o'zimizni embassyga qildim telefon, hat ham yozishga harakat qildim, lekin web site da bergan e-mail adresi noto'g'riligi uchun hatlarim qaytib kelaverdi. Telefon qilib message lar qoldirdim.... voobshe, hech kim qaytib telefon qilmadi menga... NYC dagiga telefon qilsam, DC ga qiling deyishdi, DC ga telefon qilsam hech kim trubkani olmadi... nu i dela.
Ohiri harakat ham qilmay qo'ydim.
Bir Peru lik tanishim bor edi, embassysiga telefon qilib 3 kunda "No Objection" ni oldida 2 oyda 2 yillikni waive qildirdi.... U ostal'nih tak prosto eto navernoye tol'ko u nas...
Hotya ho'jainim ikkalamiz, o'zimiz programmaga pul to'lab kelganmiz.
Bizni O'zbekiston embassyimiz o'z huqorolariga o'rinli yordam beraolishni bilamydi va yordam berishni istamaydi ham. :evil: Hullas, bu yog'i sizga katta bosh og'riq. Ammo bu ishlaringizda omad tilayman.
hojiaka
07-15-2007, 06:12 PM
I came on J1 and have 2 years home req. I did year and half and got visa with my family. It can be prolonged and you can serve it later on too. mine said If State Department sponsors another educational project it should be no less then two years untill I can apply. There are lot of lawyers in the states who can get you a waiver for as long as you want. just gotta pay them. that's all :)
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