Who Was Joha???

[Aziz]

of course not our beloved Joha in this forum.
I am asking about Joha in the Uzbek tradition. Arabs know Joha as a man who people make jokes about.
I read that his name was Nasreddin Xoja.
is that right?

[abcd]

of course not our beloved Joha in this forum.
I am asking about Joha in the Uzbek tradition. Arabs know Joha as a man who people make jokes about.
I read that his name was Nasreddin Xoja.
is that right?
Joha is a short form of Jahongir, as Bill is a short form of William

[Ulugbek_99]

of course not our beloved Joha in this forum.
I am asking about Joha in the Uzbek tradition. Arabs know Joha as a man who people make jokes about.
I read that his name was Nasreddin Xoja.
is that right?

Yes you are right about Ho'ja Nasriddin. He is the one who everyone makes jokes about. Even it is a new joke, they will just put his name in it and tell. However, in real tradition, he is described as real entertaining guy who would always make people around him laugh. He is also described as being very smart and would protect the poor from the immoral rich (bay) of the society by some means that puts the bay in a laughable situation. It was also said that because of his being critical of politics and making jokes about authorities, he was on "most wanted list" of Amir of Bukhara.

[Aziz]

Yes you are right about Ho'ja Nasriddin. He is the one who everyone makes jokes about. Even it is a new joke, they will just put his name in it and tell. However, in real tradition, he is described as real entertaining guy who would always make people around him laugh. He is also described as being very smart and would protect the poor from the immoral rich (bay) of the society by some means that puts the bay in a laughable situation. It was also said that because of his being critical of politics and making jokes about authorities, he was on "most wanted list" of Amir of Bukhara.

Where did he live???
what time did he live???

[Royal]

Where did he live???
what time did he live???
Mullah, Nasrudin Hoja appears as the whimsical character in a growing tradition of stories. The tales of Nasrudin are sometimes adapted and used as teaching stories by followers of the Sufi way. Some mystic traditions use jokes, stories and poetry to express certain ideas, allowing the bypassing of the normal discriminative thought patterns. The rationality that confines and objectifies the thinking process is the opposite to the intuitive, gestalt mentality that the mystic is attempting to engage, enter and retain.

By developing a series of impacts that reinforce certain key ideas, the rational mind is occupied with a surface meaning whilst other concepts are introduced. Thus paradox, unexpectedness, and alternatives to convention are all expressed in the humour of Nasrudin.
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Nasrudin

[Black]

of course not our beloved Joha in this forum.
I am asking about Joha in the Uzbek tradition. Arabs know Joha as a man who people make jokes about.
I read that his name was Nasreddin Xoja.
is that right?

Hoja Nasreddin is an fictionary person in some Turkic nations. Some stories say that he (Hoja Nasreddin) was a good student (talib) of a madrasah, but one day he lied to his teacher. After that case everybody started adding his name to their jokes. This process continued throughout the history, even during the soviet union and even nowadays. If somebody whats to tell anekdotes (i.e. jokes) he names the main charachter as Hoja Nasreddin, or just simply Afandi (Nasreddin Afandi and Hoja Nasreddin are the same charachter). Everybody uses his charachter on his own agendas. For example, poor people to laugh at on rich, nationalists to laugh at other nations, communist-atheist to discredit ulamas (mullas, qadhis, etc) and Islam, and etc., etc.