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AbdulAziz
05-20-2006, 01:59 AM
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Assalamu alaykum wa rohmatullohi wa barakatuhu!
Payg'ambarimiz Muhammad s.a.v. ga salotu salomlarimiz bo'lsin!

Aziz forum qatnashchilari. Ushbu mavzni ochmakdan maqsadim - Qur'oni karimni o'rganish, uni hayotga tatbiq etishdan iboratdir. Birgalikda Allohning kalomini o'rganib, amal qilish barchamizga nasib etsin!

Qur'oni karimning o'zbekcha tarjimasi Shayx Alouddin mansur tarjimalarini kiritmakni lozim topdik.

Alloh barchamizdan rozi bo'lsin!

SURALAR RO'YXATI

1.Fotiha (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg11377#msg11377)
2.Baqara (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg11378#msg11378)
3.Oli Imron (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg11426#msg11426)
4.Niso (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg11453#msg11453)
5.Moida (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg11482#msg11482)
6.An’om (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg12026#msg12026)
7.A’rof (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg12049#msg12049)
8.Anfol (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg12076#msg12076)
9.Tavba (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg12087#msg12087)
10.Yunus (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg12108#msg12108)
11.Hud (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg12121#msg12121)
12.Yusuf (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg12136#msg12136)
13.Ra’d (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg13131#msg13131)
14.Ibrohim (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg13137#msg13137)
15.Hijr (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg13144#msg13144)
16.Nahl (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg13149#msg13149)
17.Isro (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg13218#msg13218)
18.Kahf (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg13229#msg13229)
19.Maryam (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg13243#msg13243)
20.Toha (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg13250#msg13250)
21.Anbiyo (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg13260#msg13260)
22.Haj (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg13271#msg13271)
23.Mu'minun (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg13281#msg13281)
24.Nur (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg13992#msg13992)
25.Furqon (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14001#msg14001)
26.Shu’aro (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14009#msg14009)
27.Naml (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14019#msg14019)
28.Qasas (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14027#msg14027)
29.Ankabut (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14038#msg14038)
30.Rum (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14046#msg14046)
31.Luqmon (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14053#msg14053)
32.Sajda (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14057#msg14057)
33.Ahzob (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14060#msg14060)
34.Saba’ (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14070#msg14070)
35.Fotir (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14076#msg14076)
36.Yosin (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14082#msg14082)
37.Soffat (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14088#msg14088)
38.Sod (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14095#msg14095)
39.Zumar (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14100#msg14100)
40.G’ofir (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14109#msg14109)
41.Fussilat (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14119#msg14119)
42.Sho’ro (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14125#msg14125)
43.Zuxruf (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14131#msg14131)
44.Duxon (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14138#msg14138)
45.Josiya (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14141#msg14141)
49.Ahqof (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14144#msg14144)
47.Muhammad (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14149#msg14149)
48.Fath (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14153#msg14153)
49.Hujurot (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14157#msg14157)
50.Qof (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14160#msg14160)

AbdulAziz
05-20-2006, 03:51 AM
51.Zoriyot (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14162#msg14162)
52.Tur (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg14165#msg14165)
53.Najm (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16404#msg16404)
54.Qamar (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16406#msg16406)
55.Rahmon (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16409#msg16409)
56.Voqea (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16412#msg16412)
57.Hadid (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16415#msg16415)
58.Mujodala (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16420#msg16420)
59.Hashr (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16423#msg16423)
60.Mumtahana (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16427#msg16427)
61.Sof (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16429#msg16429)
62.Jum’a (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16431#msg16431)
63.Munofiqun (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16432#msg16432)
64.Tag’obun (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16434#msg16434)
65.Taloq (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16436#msg16436)
66.Tahrim (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16438#msg16438)
67.Mulk (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16440#msg16440)
68.Qalam (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16442#msg16442)
69.Haaqqa (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16444#msg16444)
70.Maorij (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16446#msg16446)
71.Nuh (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16448#msg16448)
72.Jin (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16450#msg16450)
73.Muzzammil (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16452#msg16452)
74.Muddassir (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16453#msg16453)
75.Qiyomat (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16455#msg16455)
76.Inson (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16456#msg16456)
77.Mursalot (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16458#msg16458)
78.Naba' (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16460#msg16460)
79.Nazi’at (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16461#msg16461)
80.Abasa (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16463#msg16463)
81.Takvir (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16464#msg16464)
82.Infitor (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16465#msg16465)
83.Mutoffifin (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16465#msg16465)
84.Inshiqoq (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16467#msg16467)
85.Buruj (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16468#msg16468)
86.Toriq (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16469#msg16469)
87.A’lo (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16469#msg16469)
88.G’oshiya (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16470#msg16470)
89.Fajr (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16471#msg16471)
90.Balad (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16472#msg16472)
91.Shams (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16473#msg16473)
92.Layl (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16473#msg16473)
93.Zuho (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16474#msg16474)
94.Sharh (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16474#msg16474)
95.Tiyn (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16475#msg16475)
96.Alaq (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16475#msg16475)
97.Qadr (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16476#msg16476)
98.Bayyina (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16476#msg16476)
99.Zalzala (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16477#msg16477)
100.Odiyat (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16477#msg16477)
101.Qori’a (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16478#msg16478)
102.Takosur (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16478#msg16478)
103.Asr (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16479#msg16479)
104.Humaza (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16479#msg16479)
105.Fil (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16479#msg16479)
106.Quraysh (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16480#msg16480)
107.Mo’un (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16480#msg16480)
108.Kavsar (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16480#msg16480)
109.Kofirun (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16481#msg16481)
110.Nasr (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16481#msg16481)
111.Masad (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16481#msg16481)
112.Ixlos (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16482#msg16482)
113.Falaq (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16482#msg16482)
114.Nos (http://forum.ziyouz.com/index.php?topic=160.msg16482#msg16482)

Fifi
05-20-2006, 12:25 PM
Assalomu alaykum wr, wb.

Kecha kech payti ko'nglimdan ikki narsani o'tkazdim, ya'ni Qur'on va tush haqida mavzu ochishni. Bugun forumda ikkisi haqida ham mavzu ochilibdi. Alhamdurillah.

Olimdan so'rashdan avval, forumdoshlarning fikrlarini bilmoqchiman.

Savollarim quyidagicha:

1. Nega, aynan, asr namozini qazo qilish gunoh hisoblanadi?
Bu borada bir narsani o'qigan edim va shu sababli ham ushbu savol menda paydo bo'ldi. Bir ayol zino qilib, Payg'ambarimiz (s.a.v) oldilariga hovliqib, yurugirib kelib, zino qilgani haqida xabar beradi. Payg'ambarimiz (s.a.v) bosiq holda o'zlarini tutib: "Men hali sen asr namozini qazo qilib qo'yganingdan hovliqib kelayapsanmi, deb o'ylabman",-deydilar.
Asr namozini qazo qilish, demak, zino qilishdan ham gunohroq ekan.

2. Olloh s.v.t ning 99 nomi Qur'ondan topilgan. Nega, aynan, ikkisi bilan Bismiloh boshlanadi? Ya'ni, Bismillohir rahmonir rahim. Nega boshqa nomlari bilan emas. Masalan, Al-Avval va Al-Oxir?

3. Muhammad Payg'ambarimiz s.a.v dan oldin o'tgan payg'ambarlar ibodati qanaqa bo'lgan?

4. Nega 5 vaqt namoz o'qilishi farz qilingan? Nega 2 mahal yo 3 mahal yo 6 mahal emas?
5. Sajdaning asl ma'nosi nimada?

Hozircha mana shu savollar.


Savollarim noo'rin bo'lsa, uzr so'rayman.

Olloh rozi bo'lsin.

Assalomu alaykum wr, wb.

shayhontohur
05-20-2006, 03:35 PM
Assalamu alaykum!
aziz birodar siz qiziqqan savollarning ba'zilariga o'z bilmim doirasida javob bermoqchiman.[


1. Nega, aynan, asr namozini qazo qilish gunoh hisoblanadi?
Bu borada bir narsani o'qigan edim va shu sababli ham ushbu savol menda paydo bo'ldi. Bir ayol zino qilib, Payg'ambarimiz (s.a.v) oldilariga hovliqib, yurugirib kelib, zino qilgani haqida xabar beradi. Payg'ambarimiz (s.a.v) bosiq holda o'zlarini tutib: "Men hali sen asr namozini qazo qilib qo'yganingdan hovliqib kelayapsanmi, deb o'ylabman",-deydilar.
Asr namozini qazo qilish, demak, zino qilishdan ham gunohroq ekan.

- aslida ikki namozni qazo qilmaslik alohida Qurón (qaysi sura va oyatligi esimda yo'q) oyatida keltirilgan, bular bamdod va asr namozlari.

2. Olloh s.v.t ning 99 nomi Qur'ondan topilgan. Nega, aynan, ikkisi bilan Bismiloh boshlanadi? Ya'ni, Bismillohir rahmonir rahim. Nega boshqa nomlari bilan emas. Masalan, Al-Avval va Al-Oxir?

- tog'ri, Qur'ónning barcha suralari (tavba surasidan tashqari) bilmillahir rohmanir rahim oyati bilan boshlanadi.shu haqda Fozil qoriakaning ma'ruzalarini eshitgandim,ya'ni Alloh bandalariga qanchalik rahimdil,mehribon ekanligi alohida ta'kidlangan.Alloh o'z bandasiga hech qachon yomonlik ravo ko'rmaydi.Alloh o'zidagi mehrning 1 foizini yerdagi tirik mavjudotlarga bergan.Shu mehr tufayli biz tirikmiz.Bu mehrning kuchini onaning o'z farzandiga ko'rsatadigan mehrida oddiy misol sifatida ko'rsa bo'ladi.Allohning mehri onaning farzandga bo'lgan mehridan 100 barobar kuchli.Hatto, o'z yaratguvchisini inkor etgan kofirlarga ham shu dunyoda rizqlarini berib qoýgan.Rahimligi esa,qiyomatda barcha mumin-musulmonlarga rahimdil bo'ladi.shuning uchun bu ikki sifatga alohida e'tibor berilgan.

3. Muhammad Payg'ambarimiz s.a.v dan oldin o'tgan payg'ambarlar ibodati qanaqa bo'lgan?

- qay tarzda namoz oqishgan bilmayman.lekin yahudiylar ham ilgari bizga o'hshab ibodat qilishgan,yani joynamoz ustida.

4. Nega 5 vaqt namoz o'qilishi farz qilingan? Nega 2 mahal yo 3 mahal yo 6 mahal emas?

- namozning besh vaqt o'qilishi meroj kechasi paygambarimizga Alloh tomonidan buyurilgan.Aslida,paygambarimiz merojga chiqqanlarida namoz 5 vaqt emas,ancha ko'p miqdorda o''qilishi farz qilingan.lekin ilgari o'tgan paygambarlar Muhammad S.A.Vning ortga qaytarishgan,robbimizdan namoz miqdorini kamaytiring,ummatingiz bu miqdordagi namoz ado etolmaydi deb,shundan so'ng paygambarimiz ALLOHdan qayta so'raganlar va 5 vaqt namoz farz bo'lgan.

5. Sajdaning asl ma'nosi nimada?

- ALLOHning buyukligini tan olib,unga sajda qilish,ya'ni biz uning qulimiz,u esa barcha olamlarning yakkayu-yagona robbisi,egasidir.


Mening bilganlarim shu.Agar fikrim notogri bo'lsa iltimos,togri fikrlarni bildiring.
nurmat bilan.


.

Olloh rozi bo'lsin.

Assalomu alaykum wr, wb.[/quote]

Ulug'bek
05-20-2006, 06:19 PM
...
Thanks to Muhammad from Ziyo Uz (http://ziyouz.proboards20.com)!

Qur'onning o'zbekcha Alouddin Mansur tarafidan qilingan tarjimasining ham krillda va ham lotinda yozilgan pdf formatiga link Wolfman (http://www.forum.uz/member.php?u=2932)ning imzosida ham turibdi.

Fifi
05-21-2006, 04:42 AM
Assalomu alaykum wr, wb.

Hurmatli birodar,shayhontohur, bergan javobinigiz uchun rahmat.

Savol berishimning boisini sal kechroq yozaman. Ungacha boshqa birodarlarimning fikrlarini kutib qolaman.

Assalomu alaykum wr, wb

Fifi
05-22-2006, 02:48 AM
Shayhontohur,

Diqqatingizni 2 savolga qaratmoqchiman.

Javobingiz qabul qilindi. Xuddi shunday ekanligini men kitobdan o'qib olganman, ammo menda bu borada boshqacharoq fikr tug'ildi. Xato bo'lsa, Olloh kechirsin. Tavba qildim.

Gap shundaki, Payg'ambarimiz (s.a.v) o'zlaridan so'ng ummatlari 73 firqaga bo'linishini aytganlar, ammo shulardan faqat birtasi jannatga kirishini ta'kidlab o'tganlar.
Demak, Olloh hamma musulmonga Rahim emas ekan. Olloh faqat ana o'sha 1 ta firqaga Rahim. Ammo, kitoblarda: "Olloh Rahmon, ya'ni dinli va dinsiz uchun ham Rahmon, ediradi, kiydiradi va hokazo, ammo oxiratda barcha musulmonga Rahim",-deb yozilishi sal xatoroqmi deyman?!

Yana Olloh biladi.

Assalomu alaykum wr, wb.

Brigadir
05-22-2006, 03:49 AM
5. Sajdaning asl ma'nosi nimada?
Olloh rozi bo'lsin.
Assalomu alaykum wr, wb.

Assalomu alaykum...
Yuqorida bergan savollarizni hamda unga berilgan javoblarni ham o'qib chiqdim.. Va shu erda 5-savolizga berilgan javobga qo'shimcha qilishni lozim topdim...
Iblis odam tufayli farishtadan iblisga aylanib qolgani uchun Allohdan odamzoddan qastini olishni so'raydi...
Shunda Alloh ta'lo iblisdan qanday qilib qastingni olmoqchisan deb so'raydi.
Iblis aytadi: Oldidan shunday o'raymanki, mansab boylik desa ota onasini ham tan olmaydigan qilaman, o'ng tarafidan shunday o'raymanki nafsini quliga aylantiraman. Namoz desa qochadigan osh desa chopadigan qilib qo'yaman deydi. Chap tarafdan o'rab shunaqangi fosixlikka boshlaymanki, qiyomatda ee Alloh man hayvondan ham battar bo'lgan ekanman deb dod soladi. Va orqasidan sekin sekin do'zax sari itarib turaman degan ekan... Alloh Iblisdan agar shu aytganlaringga rozi bo'lsam manga butun umr qilgan ibodatingdan kechasanmi deganda iblis kechaman deb yubordi va shu bir og'iz so'z bilan iblis qiyomatgacha odamdan qastini olishga ruxsat oldi va abadiy do'zaxiy bo'ldi. Shunda buni eshitib turgan farishtalar Allohga murojaat qilishdi.. EE Alloh bandang seni ko'rmasdan ibodat qilishi o'zi og'ir edi unga nafs ham berding, endi bu bandangga bunisi juda ham og'irlik qilmaydimi deb so'rashdi.
Shunda Alloh taalo dedi: Ey a'zolarim sizlar bilmaysizlar, lekin men har narsani bilguvchiman. Men ataylabdan iblisning yodidan yuqori va pastni esidan chiqarib qo'ydim. Bandam menga iymon keltirib boshini sajdaga qo'yganda men yuqoridan raxmatimni yog'diraman degan ekan.

Manimcha boshqa izoh kerak bo'lmasa kere.
Alloh barchamizni toat ibodatda qalbimizni mustahkam qilsin.
Allohu Akbar!!!

Fifi
05-22-2006, 04:10 AM
Assalomu alaykum wr, wb.

Hurmatli birodar,

Quyida yozganingiz:

-Manimcha boshqa izoh kerak bo'lmasa kere.

Rahmat. Boshqa izoh kerak emas.

Menga aynan shu javob kerak edi. Shayhontohur yaqinroq javob berganlar, ammo Sizning javobingizda asl sabab yotadi.

Olloh rozi bo'lsin!

Assalomu alaykum wr, wb.

Ulug'bek
05-22-2006, 08:16 AM
Shayhontohur,

Diqqatingizni 2 savolga qaratmoqchiman.

Javobingiz qabul qilindi. Xuddi shunday ekanligini men kitobdan o'qib olganman, ammo menda bu borada boshqacharoq fikr tug'ildi. Xato bo'lsa, Olloh kechirsin. Tavba qildim.

Gap shundaki, Payg'ambarimiz (s.a.v) o'zlaridan so'ng ummatlari 73 firqaga bo'linishini aytganlar, ammo shulardan faqat birtasi jannatga kirishini ta'kidlab o'tganlar.
Demak, Olloh hamma musulmonga Rahim emas ekan. Olloh faqat ana o'sha 1 ta firqaga Rahim. Ammo, kitoblarda: "Olloh Rahmon, ya'ni dinli va dinsiz uchun ham Rahmon, ediradi, kiydiradi va hokazo, ammo oxiratda barcha musulmonga Rahim",-deb yozilishi sal xatoroqmi deyman?!

Yana Olloh biladi.

Assalomu alaykum wr, wb.

Birinchidan, bu manodagi hadisni (omma orasida ancha mashhur bo'lishiga qaramasdan) kamida ikkita ko'zga ko'ringan muhaddis zaif deb topgan; bular Ibn Hazm va Ibnul- Vazirdirlar.

Ikkinchidan, bu hadisni sahih deganlar ham, uning manosi sharhida, qolgan firqalar bid'atlari (albatta dindan chiqarib yubormaydigan bo'lsa) sabab Do'zaxga kirdirishga loyiq ish qilgan hisoblanadi, ammo uning boshqa yaxshi amallari sabab kirmasligi mumkin deyishadi va bu albatta hisob-kitobning boshlanishiga tegishli, yo'qsa do'zaxga kiradigan hamma musulmonlar oxir-oqibat Jannatga olib o'tiladi. Mana shu ahlus-sunnaning aqidasi hisoblanadi.

AbuMuslim
05-22-2006, 10:36 AM
O'zbekcha ma'nolar tarjimasi hozirgi kunga kelib 5 taga etdi.

1. Oltinxontora Taroziy
2. Domla Hindistoniy
3. Shayx MSMY
4. Alouddin Mansur
5. Abdulaziz Mansur

Mening qo'limda ushbu kitoblarning hammasi bor va sizlar bilan ham shu kitoblar bilan baham ko'rish niyyatim bor.
Mana bugungi kunga kelib http://www.quran.uz saytidan
Shayx Muhammad Sodiq Muhammad Yusuf (MSMY) xz.larining ma'nolar tarjimasini to'liq topishingiz mumkin (Bu erda (http://www.quran.uz))
va yana Alouddin Mansur ma'nolar tarjimasini (bu erda (http://www.quran.uz/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=8&id=21&Itemid=35))
Qolganlirini saytga kiritishni boshlaganman istagan odam kirib foydalansa bo'ladi. (bu erda (http://www.quran.uz/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=8&Itemid=35))(Faqat birodarlar duo qilib turinglar g'ayratimiz so'nib qolmasin)
va assalomu alaykum

shayhontohur
05-22-2006, 06:33 PM
[quote=Brigadir]Assalomu alaykum...
Yuqorida bergan savollarizni hamda unga berilgan javoblarni ham o'qib chiqdim.. Va shu erda 5-savolizga berilgan javobga qo'shimcha qilishni lozim topdim...
Iblis odam tufayli farishtadan iblisga aylanib qolgani uchun Allohdan odamzoddan qastini olishni so'raydi...

menimcha ohirgi jumla sal hato yozilgan. Iblis o'zi asli jinlardan bo'lgan,lekin ibodatda kuchli bo'lgani uchun farishtalar martabasiga tenglashtirilgan.Lekin odamga sajda qilmagani uchun lanátlanib - ma'lun bo'lgan.Iblis hech qachon farishta bo'lmagan.
hato so'zlagan bo'lsam uzr.

Fifi
05-23-2006, 02:03 AM
Birinchidan, bu manodagi hadisni (omma orasida ancha mashhur bo'lishiga qaramasdan) kamida ikkita ko'zga ko'ringan muhaddis zaif deb topgan; bular Ibn Hazm va Ibnul- Vazirdirlar.

Ikkinchidan, bu hadisni sahih deganlar ham, uning manosi sharhida, qolgan firqalar bid'atlari (albatta dindan chiqarib yubormaydigan bo'lsa) sabab Do'zaxga kirdirishga loyiq ish qilgan hisoblanadi, ammo uning boshqa yaxshi amallari sabab kirmasligi mumkin deyishadi va bu albatta hisob-kitobning boshlanishiga tegishli, yo'qsa do'zaxga kiradigan hamma musulmonlar oxir-oqibat Jannatga olib o'tiladi. Mana shu ahlus-sunnaning aqidasi hisoblanadi.


Assalomu alaykum wr, wb.
Bergan javobingiz uchun tashakkur.
Balki, yozganlaringiz to'g'ridir, ammo menda bu borada hanuzgacha gumon bor.

Fifi
05-24-2006, 01:02 PM
Assalomu alaykum wr, wb.

Ulug'bek,

Men bir narsani mubolag'asiz aniq bilaman, ya'ni shikr keltirganlar,albatta, do'zaxiydirlar.

Ammo, Olloh s.v.t. Rahim, ya'ni barcha musulmonlarga deyilishi, menimcha, noo'rin, chunki shirk keltirganlar hech qachon jannatiy bo'la olmaydilar.
Shirk keltirayotgan musulmonlar, masalan, eronliklar. Ular ham musulmon, mubolag'asiz. Biroq, ular Alini Olloh darajasiga ko'tarishadi. " Yo Ali",-deb zurnalar qilib, madad so'rashadi. Vaholanki, Olloh s.v.t dan o'zgadan madad so'rashlik, Shirkul Akbardur!

Mening shaxsiy fikrim, demak, yuqoridagi hadis, haqiqatdan ham sahih.
Demak, faqat birta firqa jannatga kiradi.
Demak, Olloh s.v.t barcha musulmonga Rahim emas, agar-da ular shirk keltirishgan bo'lsa.
Mana shunday deb aytilsa, menimcha, sal oydinlik kiritilar edimi?!
Menimcha, Olloh hech qachon bilib turib, shirk keltirgan musulmonlarni kechirmas. Yana Olloh biladi. Tavba qildim!
Bilmay turib shirk keltirishdan ko'ra, bilib turib shirk keltrishi, nazarimda, o'ta gunohli ishdir.

Lekin: "Bismillahir rahmanir rahim",- deb aytilishi, haliyam men uchun echilmagan masala bo'lib qolayapti. Inshaallah, javobini toparman.

Assalomu alaykum wr,wb.