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elDoraDo
05-21-2006, 01:42 AM
Salom Forum

Bugun sizning yordamingiz kerak.
Video camera olmoqchiman. Faqatgina bu narsalarni yaxshi tushunmayman. Qoldan kelgancha organishga harakat qildim, ammo ba'zi savollar haliyam bor.

Olmoqchi bolganim iloji boricha memory, quality va boshqa hususiyatlar jihatidan optimal bolsin degandim. Bilishimcha hozir 30Gb HDDlik Sonylar, shunday Victor (JVC) lar chiqqan. Ammo bularning sifati tape lik cameralarning yozish sifati ancha yuqori ekan.

Undan tashqari, ikki hil option bor: biri NTSC da , biri Duty Free shopda ozimizning sistemada olish. Mobodo NTSC dan olinadigan bolsa - hozirgi Uzbekistondagi ohirgi TV larga ishonsa boladimi (dual system)? Ularning aytishicha Camera HDD dan PC ga kochirib keyin DVD yasalib Playerga qoyilsayam TV korsatmasmush. Bunday tajriba bolmagani uchun shu yerda bilganlardan soradim.

Iltimos bu narsalarni tushunsangiz, maslahatingiz.
Agar vaqt ozroq bolsa bir kichik savol:
Imkoniyat bolsa siz qanday camera olgan bolardiz Va nimaga?

Oldindan katta rahmat

R.Azimov
05-21-2006, 01:49 AM
O'zimdan kelib chiqqan holda qisqacha fikrim:(keyinroq batafsil yozarman)

Hard Disk camcorder ko'tara boshog'riq.
DVD camcorder olaverganingiz ma'qul.


P.s: Asosiysi "optical zoom"ga katta e'tibor bering.


Hurmat bilan
R.A.

Nipponia
05-21-2006, 05:39 AM
Salom Forum

Bugun sizning yordamingiz kerak.
Video camera olmoqchiman. Faqatgina bu narsalarni yaxshi tushunmayman. Qoldan kelgancha organishga harakat qildim, ammo ba'zi savollar haliyam bor.

Olmoqchi bolganim iloji boricha memory, quality va boshqa hususiyatlar jihatidan optimal bolsin degandim. Bilishimcha hozir 30Gb HDDlik Sonylar, shunday Victor (JVC) lar chiqqan. Ammo bularning sifati tape lik cameralarning yozish sifati ancha yuqori ekan.

Undan tashqari, ikki hil option bor: biri NTSC da , biri Duty Free shopda ozimizning sistemada olish. Mobodo NTSC dan olinadigan bolsa - hozirgi Uzbekistondagi ohirgi TV larga ishonsa boladimi (dual system)? Ularning aytishicha Camera HDD dan PC ga kochirib keyin DVD yasalib Playerga qoyilsayam TV korsatmasmush. Bunday tajriba bolmagani uchun shu yerda bilganlardan soradim.

Iltimos bu narsalarni tushunsangiz, maslahatingiz.
Agar vaqt ozroq bolsa bir kichik savol:
Imkoniyat bolsa siz qanday camera olgan bolardiz Va nimaga?

Oldindan katta rahmat
Eldorado,
Yeahshisi HD lik SONY yoki VICTOR (JVC EVERIO) oling.
Sababi oddiy. Bularning sifati deganda siz nafaqat video sifati balki data bilan ishlashni ham hisobga oling. Tapeli video cameralar bilan ishlash juda qiyin, joningizga tegadi. Va bu esa sekin sekin video camerani ishlatishga erinchoqlikni uygotadi. Manda huddi shunaqa bulgan, shahsan. Har gal tapedan kompga utkizib va uni DVD ga yozish esa qiyin (mendo kusai).
Sizga Martda chiqqan NTSE SONY 30 giga li sini tavsiya etaman. PAL esa tahminan min. 100$ qimmat. Usha $100ga sal pul qushib Uzbekistonda yahshi televisor olasiz Multiregionligini.
Tem bolee yaqinda BLUE RAY ham chiqishni boshlidi SONYdan, ushanda sizning video camerangiz compatible bulishi tayin. Bu mani shahsiy fikrim.

elDoraDo
05-21-2006, 05:43 AM
Rahmat kattakon
Everio GZ-MG505 haqida nima deb oylaysiz? Victordan

Osha yerda 3CCD 30Gb 5Mega yozilgan
30Gb tushunarli, 5Mega bu rasm hajmi, a 3CCD nima ekan?

elDoraDo
07-20-2006, 02:49 AM
I've just recieved my brand new dark black, super handy, 5 Megapixel, 30Gb HDD, 3CCD
Everio GZ-MG505 Victor or JVC video-camera.
JVC Video Lens - 10x Optical zoom /AF
f=3,2~32mm
1:1.8 diam. 37
Released late June, and now I have it :D
http://www.jvc-victor.co.jp/dvmain/gz-mg505/img/gz-mg505-b_s.jpghttp://www.jvc-victor.co.jp/dvmain/gz-mg505/img/gz-mg505_std.jpg

R.Azimov
07-20-2006, 03:48 AM
Tannarxi qancha va uyga yetkazib berish bilan birga qanchaga tushdingiz?
(PM ham ishlatishingiz mumkin albatta ;))

RA

Alouddin
07-20-2006, 03:58 AM
eldorado, asosiysi arzonrooo bo'sin hihi! :D

elDoraDo
07-26-2006, 12:20 AM
eldorado, asosiysi arzonrooo bo'sin hihi! :D


Yes I got the cheapest offer so far. Much cheaper than its official release price.
By the way, one more bright feature among its admirable qualities is its 16:9 wide screen option. Amazingly easy functioning with the highest possible performance of screening. Strongly suggest for fans of deliberateness.
It’s small enough to easily take anywhere. Its classic camcorder-style design is topped off by a 2.7” widescreen 16:9 LCD that accurately displays native 16:9 videos while they are being shot, as well as during playback. (c) JVC (http://www.jvc.com/press/index.jsp?item=510&pageID=1)

CHOYHONACHI
07-26-2006, 12:58 AM
Eldo,

You should be cheated, being told that it is the cheapest price you could find around. The cheapest price, by all meanings of this phrase, is in Kara-Suu bazar, Osh district, Kyrgyzstan. :lool:

When you will be back from Japan, find me and we will go through Kara-Suu, so that you would be assured about this point.

Anyway, qulliq bo'lsin. Ko'p hayirli kunlarda ishlaringizga yarasin. As far as I can suppose it is for spacial day coming soon, ha?

Omadla
CHOYHONACHI

Alouddin
07-27-2006, 12:31 AM
Eldo,

You should be cheated, being told that it is the cheapest price you could find around. The cheapest price, by all meanings of this phrase, is in Kara-Suu bazar, Osh district, Kyrgyzstan. :lool:

When you will be back from Japan, find me and we will go through Kara-Suu, so that you would be assured about this point.

Anyway, qulliq bo'lsin. Ko'p hayirli kunlarda ishlaringizga yarasin. As far as I can suppose it is for spacial day coming soon, ha?

Omadla
CHOYHONACHI by the way, I can organize a home delivery as well! :D it's right there! (15-min ride on my Tika :lool: )

CHOYHONACHI
07-27-2006, 12:48 AM
by the way, I can organize a home delivery as well! :D it's right there! (15-min ride on my Tika :lool: )
TIKA???

What I heard - fellas had seen you driving TIKA 4WD off-road version, ha?

:lool:

Anyway, Eldo, I've seen in Kara-Suu the home cinema version TV Hisense (I do not remember the diagonals, it is for sure more then 2 metres) for only 400 USD, when the Sony, Panasonic version of this TV is about more then 1000 USD, so I highly advise you. By the way, you would have visited and seen Aloudin's TIKA 4WD off-road version. It was of green color, isnt it?

Tika a?! Hayt, tobayeee :lool:

Omadla
CHOYHONACHI

CHOYHONACHI
07-27-2006, 01:02 AM
Eldo,

But I can offer special package ALL INCLUSIVE!!!

NO VISA!!! NO OBLIGATION!!! NO LIMITATION!!! BUY WHATEVER YOU WANT AND WE WILL DELIVER IT FOR YOU!!!

What you will gain from this special package:
Two day accomodation
No VISA entry to KG (it means you can extend your duration in KG as long as you want *)
Buy whatever you want and will it deliver it for you to Tashkent from Osh

* The accomodation more then two days will be taken under the charge

FLY WITH US
CHOYHONACHI

PHOENIX
07-27-2006, 03:00 AM
Ahha...endi man camcorder olish niyatidaman. To'g'risini aytganda, HDD yoqmadi manga. Noqulayligi shundaki, HDD to'lgandan keyin uyga olib kelib, kompga ko'chirish kerak ekan uni. 28-29GBni (odatda) ko'chirish esa yarim soatcha vaqt olarkan. Undan ko'ra DVD disklarni almashtirib keturgan yahshimasmi? Va albatta bitta extra battery olish kerak, usiz bo'mas ekan.

Shunday qilib, "optical quality" bo'yicha eng yuqori darajada bo'lgan SONY digital camcorderlarida to'xtadim:
SONYda eng pas illumination - 5 LUX. Night shot uchun alohida rejim ishga tushadi - 0 LUX (!!!). :)

Qolgan aksariyat camcorderlarda esa 7-12 LUX ekan, va ustiga ustak night shot kamdan kam systemalarda uchradi. Kunduzi su'ratga olishi zo'r, lekin kechki payt juda ham fuzzy.

Misol uchun manga

SONY DCR-DVD505 Digital Camcorder
Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T
10x Optical Zoom
120x Digital Zoom
1/3" 2.1 MegaPixels (Gross) ClearVID Cmos Sensor
3.5" 211K Pixels Wide 16:9 Touch Panel SwivelScreen LCD Display
Recording Media: DVD-R -RW/+RW
yoqvotti, lekin qimmatroq ekan camcorder uchun: 750$ - 1000$

Demak, man quyidagi camcorderni olishni mo'ljallavomman (Narhi: 605$ - 920$):
SONY DCR-DVD405 Digital Camcorder
10x Optical Zoom
120x Digital Zoom
Audio Dolby Digital 5.1ch
JPEG size 2016 x 1512
1/3" 3.3 MP (Gross) Advanced HAD CCD
2.7" 123K Wide 16:9 Touch Panel LCD Display
Recording Media: DVD-R -RW/+RW
Battery Life: 90 Min.

Nima deysizlar? Maslaxatlar are appreciated! (Battery Life juda kamligi yoqmayapti.)

PHOENIX

PS: Yuqorida ko'rsatib o'tgan camcorderlarga linklarni berib o'tmadim. Sababi, iltimos, o'zingiz internetda boshqa, man bilmaydigan sourcelarga qarab yoki o'zingizning tajribangizdan kelib chiqqan holda, maslahat bersangiz, degandim. Oldindan rahmat.

elDoraDo
07-27-2006, 06:31 AM
PHOENIX

Masanoridan sorasang yaxshiroq. Unda adashmasam oxirgisi (March Release) dan bitta yoki 2 ta oldingi model bor. Batteryni bilmadimu ammo night shot adashmasam har qattan yaxshi. Umuman rasmlarining sifatini kormoqchi bolsang, Photo Galleryga qaragan yaxshiroq. Ozining aytishi buyicha esa - sonydagi digital video quality hali kassetniy kameraga yetmaydi.

HDD buyicha esa bir yahooda gaplasharmiz ;)

Alouddin
07-27-2006, 11:44 AM
(chat qilib tashlamaylik :))

no, what bro's have seen was my brother's vehicle and her names is Kiy-ya (Sportage), whereas mine is a small and tiny car just like the camera Eldorado has procured :)

as far as QoraSuw is concerned, Eldorado, seriously dude, just fly over here, we'll buy the whole set for no price (with NO WARRANTIES WHATSOEVER :))

how's the cam so far?