Freezing brains after death

[Uzbekxonim]

some people wish their brains to be freezed after they die (in Russia they do it for 9 000 USD). so that when technologies will be more advanced than now, their brains could be placed into new body or a clon made out of their cells, so that that person would live another life....

please share your opinions on that topic.
whould you write a postmortal will which would say that you want your brains to be freezed?...

[ДЖИГИТ]

some people wish their brains to be freezed after they die (in Russia they do it for 9 000 USD). so that when technologies will be more advanced than now, their brains could be placed into new body or a clon made out of their cells, so that that person would live another life....

please share your opinions on that topic.
whould you write a postmortal will which would say that you want your brains to be freezed?...

Chelovek jiv ne tol'ko material'nim telom (chto vklyuchaet vse organi), a nechto bolee visshim. Mi nazivaem eto dushoy, dusha bessmertna, vsyo material'noe podvergaetsya iznosu, a znachit istoshaetsya i stareet. Esli bi cheloveku mojno bilo zamorozit' mozgi a potom razrastit' klon i vstavit' v nego zamorojennuyu golovu, to eto oznachalo bi, chto chelovek eto vsego lish' materiya. No eto ne tak. Dokazatel'stvom tomu yavlyaetsya sravnenie tela jivogo cheloveka i myortvogo. Mozgi i vsyakiy lyuboy organ eto materiya. materiya sama soboy ne mojet funktsionirovat' takje kak i v sluchae s materiey myortvogo cheloveka. Telo myortvogo cheloveka est' takoe je telo, kak i jivogo, no v nyom net bioenergii ili dushi, chto privodit telo v jizn'. Bioenergiya edina i eyo nel'zya ni delit', ni videt', ni soizmerit'. Posle raspada jivogo organizma, a zamorajivanie kak-raz taki privodit k raspadu jivih kletok, hotya sohranyaet ih himicheskiy sostav, ego vosstanovit' nevozmojno, inachebi mojno bilo vosstanovit' te jivie organizmi, kotorie sohranilis' v lednikah. Esli bi mojno bilo razmorozit' zamorojennie kletki to mojno bilo bi vosstanovit' organi teh bol'nih, kotorie podverglis' nenamerenomu ohlajdeniyu ili zamorajivaniyu.

Ochen' vajno pomnit', chto zamorajivanie sohranyaet tol'ko himicheskiy sostav, no ni v koem sluchae ne jiznesposobnost' kletok.

[Delf]

Smert' - ponyatie otnositelnoe.

Do otnositelno nedavnego vremeni ostanovka serdca uje oznachala smert'. Chelovek uhodivshiy v komu uje schitalsa mertvim.

Seychas lyudi mogut godami nahoditsa v kome i potom priyti v soznanie i prodoljat' jit'.

Seychas lyudi jivut bez serdca godami - serdce zamenyaet mehanicheskiy apparat.

Mozg toje ne edinoe tceloe - on sostoit iz mnojestva uchastkov. Seychas uje nauchilis' zamenyat' nekotorie defektnie uchastki elektronikoi, chtobi mozg mog rabotat' dal'she.

A naschet bioenergii, dushi, noosfere i t.d. - ot etih razgovorov tolku kak ot kozla moloka. Esli bi eti ponyatiya mogli bi realno na chto-to vliyat', to davno voshli bi v nauchnoe upotreblenie, tak je kak gennaya terapiya i drugie poleznie ponyatiya/razdeli nauki.

See also this movie:
Experiments in the Revival of Organisms (1940)
http://www.archive.org/details/Experime1940



Delf.

[ДЖИГИТ]

Smert' - ponyatie otnositelnoe.

Do otnositelno nedavnego vremeni ostanovka serdca uje oznachala smert'. Chelovek uhodivshiy v komu uje schitalsa mertvim.

Seychas lyudi mogut godami nahoditsa v kome i potom priyti v soznanie i prodoljat' jit'.

Seychas lyudi jivut bez serdca godami - serdce zamenyaet mehanicheskiy apparat.

Mozg toje ne edinoe tceloe - on sostoit iz mnojestva uchastkov. Seychas uje nauchilis' zamenyat' nekotorie defektnie uchastki elektronikoi, chtobi mozg mog rabotat' dal'she.

A naschet bioenergii, dushi, noosfere i t.d. - ot etih razgovorov tolku kak ot kozla moloka. Esli bi eti ponyatiya mogli bi realno na chto-to vliyat', to davno voshli bi v nauchnoe upotreblenie, tak je kak gennaya terapiya i drugie poleznie ponyatiya/razdeli nauki.

See also this movie:
Experiments in the Revival of Organisms (1940)
http://www.archive.org/details/Experime1940



Delf.

Tolku malo dlya teh, kto govorit ne osmisliv. K tomu je i nauka uje poryadka neskolkih desyatkov let upotreblyaet ponyatiya bioenergii, dushi i dushevnogo sostoyaniya i tp. A to, chto tolku malo, eto ot-togo, chto chelovechestvo so svoey naukoy esho nahoditsya na nachal'nom etape, ono ne sposobno pereyti za gran' material'nogo. Deystvitel'no chelovek izluchaet iz sebya bioenergiyu, chtobi podderjivat' eyo upotreblyaet himicheskuyu energiyu. Segodnya peresadi serdtse, zavtra mozgi, potom esho kakoy-to organ i posmotrim chto iz etogo poluchitsya. A ne trudno dogadat'sya, iz etogo poluchitsya robot, bez chuvstv i dushi. Chelovek ne sposoben sohranit' jizn' ni zamoroziv, ni razmoroziv, ni nagrev organ ili telo. Uroven' dushi namnogo vishe material'nogo tela, kotorogo mojno podlechit, zamenit' kakoyto organ. Ne skaju eto ploho, eto horosho dlya lecheniya, no chtobi vosstanovit' myortvogo, eto ne v nashih rukah.

[Masanori]

some people wish their brains to be freezed after they die (in Russia they do it for 9 000 USD). so that when technologies will be more advanced than now, their brains could be placed into new body or a clon made out of their cells, so that that person would live another life....

please share your opinions on that topic.
whould you write a postmortal will which would say that you want your brains to be freezed?...

merzko!!!!!:evil:

[elDoraDo]

some people wish their brains to be freezed after they die (in Russia they do it for 9 000 USD). so that when technologies will be more advanced than now, their brains could be placed into new body or a clon made out of their cells, so that that person would live another life....

please share your opinions on that topic.
whould you write a postmortal will which would say that you want your brains to be freezed?...

a chto tolku to - vse ravno chelovek ne budet znat, ili dahe chuvstvovat chto ego klon zhivet, pust daje cherez 100-200 let. eto kak b rodilsya noviy chelovek, a ot etogo mertvomu do lampochki... (tolko ne govorite mne chto vmeste s zamorazhivaniyem oni sohranyat i ego pamyat)

[Uyyonli]

if i dye i hope and wish to go to paradise where I can joint many and many of my fellow muslem when Recurrection comes, and by the way if u believ u have done too many sins and if u still hope to fix it later, then u should already think about it now and do the right things, and ask God to forgive u and InshAllah u will die in peace, I personally want to buried, not to be kept around who know If can returnt to life even if I can how am i going to live in the future life just think about the 200-300 years from it will so soficticated and u will hate that life after a while, major thing we don't know when is the Recurrection Day that if it come then you are not been buried and u know what is next...

[Uzbekxonim]

merzko!!!!!:evil:

vozmojno...
no lyudi delayut takoe... zamorajivayut mozgi svoey babushki ili je pishiut predsmertnuyu zapisku o tom chtoni ih mozgi zamorozili...

[Uzbekxonim]

a chto tolku to - vse ravno chelovek ne budet znat, ili dahe chuvstvovat chto ego klon zhivet, pust daje cherez 100-200 let. eto kak b rodilsya noviy chelovek, a ot etogo mertvomu do lampochki... (tolko ne govorite mne chto vmeste s zamorazhivaniyem oni sohranyat i ego pamyat)

ya soglasna, tolko vot ne vse lyudi eto ponimayut... ili je ponimayut, no vot sama misl chto ih kletka (v chistom vide, bez skresheniya s drugim genom kak eto bivaet pri rojdenii obichnogo rebenka) budet jit' eshe odnu jizn ih raduet:?

[Black]

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Miyani muzlatib qo'yish... Keyin yana boshqa tanaga ko'chirish... Bular hammasi safsata. Alloh "Har bir jon o'limni totgusidir" deb va'da bergan.