Код да Винчи:Оскорбительна ли для мусульман мысль о женитьбе Посланника Божьего?

[Administrator]

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...в Исламе брак - это положительное явление, которое присуще всем людям, включая и Божьих посланников, одним из которых являлся Иисус. Более того - аномально как раз безбрачие.

Во всяком случае, в Коране нигде не сказано о том, что у Иисуса не могло быть семьи или детей. - Это могло быть, но могло и не быть. Вопрос остается открытым. А ссылки на евангельскую традицию в Исламе (исраилият) приемлемы только в том случае, если они подтверждены исламской традицией. Если же такого подтверждения нет, то данные христианского Евангелия - хоть догматически признанного в Риме 4 века, хоть апокрифического - доказательством суждения на историческую тему быть не может.

Следовательно, фильм "Код да Винчи" по этим моментам совершенно не противоречит Исламу, и нет никаких оснований говорить о его антиисламской сущности...............

[Administrator]

vot ya zadumalsa ved mi musilmane je verim chto isus s.v bil obichnim chelovekom prorokom i vse proroki jenilis i praktikovali poligamiyu (joseph,salamon, davud ,moisey,muhammed..etc) ...i logichno li perdpoljit chto bog zapretil isusu (mir emu ) imet intimnoye otnosheniye s jenshinoy(koncechno v brake) ? ved islamskaya doktrina je shitayet grehom zapreshat to chto mog ne zapretil (vtom chisle i seks v brake).

[Alouddin]

Admin, yesli my prosto ne znayem byla li jenitbya Isa alayhissalam ili net kak takovaya, to kak my mojem obijatsa (ili net) esli hristiane, govoryashie o ego bezbrachii, vdrug sami je zagovorili o ego jenitbe...

[Han]

Iso alayhissalom osmonga olib chiqib ketilganida hali uylanmagan edilar. Lekin bu bilan apostollariga nikohni man qilgan emasdi. Ikkinchidan Iso alayhissalom Mahdi alayhissalom davrida osmondan tushadilar va uylanib oila sohibi bo'lishlari haqida qimmat manbalarda kelgan...

[lyalyapo]

Iso alayhissalom osmonga olib chiqib ketilganida hali uylanmagan edilar.

Bunga Islomdan hujjat yoq lekin, Payg'ambarlar orasida uylangani ham bulgan uylanmagani ham, Iso a.s. ning qachon o'lganligi haqida Quronda ham Hadisda ham sukut saqlanadi. Krestta raspyat bumaganligi haqida lekin hujjat bor Quronda.
Code Da Vinchida lekin judayam qiziqarli faktlar yoritilipti, masalan Constantine haqida, hozirgi 4 ta bibliyani tanlagan odam usha hamda ushaning davrida uzgartirilgan kup narsa, kinoda esa u faqat ulimidan keyin baptist bugani haqida gapiriladi keyin research qilgandik shu masalada rostan ham shunaqa bugan ekan.

[Han]

iyeee .......

[real_life]

Iso a.s. ning qachon o'lganligi haqida Quronda ham Hadisda ham sukut saqlanadi. Bu nima deganiz? Islom aqidasi boyicha Iso alayhissalom olmaganlar ahir, balkim osmonga olib chiqib ketilganlar, va qiyomatga yaqin yani ohir zamonda osmondan tushishlari, Musulmonlarga boshchilik qilishlari, va "har bir jon o'limni totguvchidir" oyati (manosi)ga binoan o'lishlari Sahih hadislarda kelgan, Sahih hadislarga ishonmaslik hukmi qanday bolishini bilsangiz kerak.

[real_life]

vot ya zadumalsa ved mi musilmane je verim chto isus s.v bil obichnim chelovekom prorokom i vse proroki jenilis i praktikovali poligamiyu (joseph,salamon, davud ,moisey,muhammed..etc) ...i logichno li perdpoljit chto bog zapretil isusu (mir emu ) imet intimnoye otnosheniye s jenshinoy(koncechno v brake) ? ved islamskaya doktrina je shitayet grehom zapreshat to chto mog ne zapretil (vtom chisle i seks v brake).
Mi ne mojem uverenno govorit' chto vse Proroki jenilis', eto ni gde ne skazano, Krome 25i Prorokov upomyanutih v Korane bili yeshyo mnogo tisyach prorokov, i sredi nih vpolne vozmojno bili i te kotorie ne jenilis', V korane ne skazano chto u Salamona ili Davuda ili Moiseya (alayhimussalam) bili jeni, poetomu mi ne mojem bit' uverennemi v ih jenit'be. Wallohu a'lam

[shady_lady]

People who ve read aa book did you see the note that it is not real facts
Hello..., what you talking about =)
Be happy don't worry

[lyalyapo]

Bu nima deganiz? Islom aqidasi boyicha Iso alayhissalom olmaganlar ahir, balkim osmonga olib chiqib ketilganlar, va qiyomatga yaqin yani ohir zamonda osmondan tushishlari, Musulmonlarga boshchilik qilishlari, va "har bir jon o'limni totguvchidir" oyati (manosi)ga binoan o'lishlari Sahih hadislarda kelgan, Sahih hadislarga ishonmaslik hukmi qanday bolishini bilsangiz kerak.

Sorry ya imela vvidu shu hodisa qachon ruy bergani aniq emas deb, yani raspyatiyaga nisbatan bugan qaysi paytda


The Glorious Qur'an affirms that Allah the Exalted did not permit the people of Israel to kill Jesus
or crucify him. What happened was that Allah saved him from his enemies and raised him to
heaven. They never killed Jesus, they killed someone else.
Allah the Almighty declared:
" And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger
of Allah," but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of Jesus was put over
another man (and they killed that man) and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They
have no certain knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not
(Jesus, son of Mary): But Allah raised him (Jesus) up (with his body and soul) unto Himself (and
he is in the heavens). And Allah is Ever All Powerful, All Wise.
And there is none of the people of the Scripture (Jews & Christians), but must believe in him
(Jesus, son of Mary, as only a Messenger of Allah, and a human being0, before his (Jesus or a
Jew's or a Christian's ) death (at the time of the appearance of the angel of death). And on the
Day of Resurrection, he (Jesus) will be a witness against them. ( Ch 4:157-159 Quran)
Almighty Allah also revealed:
"And remember when Allah said: "O Jesus! I will take you and raise you to Myself and clear you
(of the forged statement that Jesus is Allah's son) of those who disbelieve, and I will make those
who follow you (Monotheists, who worship none but Allah ) superior to those who disbelieve (in
the Oneness of Allah, or disbelieve in some of His Messengers, e.g. Muhammad, Jesus, Moses,
etc., or in His Holy Books, e.g. the Torah, the Gospel, the Qur'an) till the Day of Resurrection.
Then you will return to Me and I will judge between you in the matters in which you used to
dispute." (Ch 3:55 Quran).

[lyalyapo]

People who ve read aa book did you see the note that it is not real facts
Hello..., what you talking about =)
Be happy don't worry

No tam vsyo taki v etoi knigi est nekotoriye interesniye fakti na chto horosho bilobi obratit' vnimaniya

[schrodinger]

Bunga Islomdan hujjat yoq lekin, Payg'ambarlar orasida uylangani ham bulgan uylanmagani ham, Iso a.s. ning qachon o'lganligi haqida Quronda ham Hadisda ham sukut saqlanadi. Krestta raspyat bumaganligi haqida lekin hujjat bor Quronda.
Code Da Vinchida lekin judayam qiziqarli faktlar yoritilipti, masalan Constantine haqida, hozirgi 4 ta bibliyani tanlagan odam usha hamda ushaning davrida uzgartirilgan kup narsa, kinoda esa u faqat ulimidan keyin baptist bugani haqida gapiriladi keyin research qilgandik shu masalada rostan ham shunaqa bugan ekan.
Man ham research qilib bazi malumotlani topib judayam hayron buldim. Haqiqatda Alloh kofirlaga, shulani qatorida hristianlaga birinchi urinda hidoyat eshiklarini ochiq qoldirgani haqiqatligiga amin buldim. Haqiqatda 323-yilda hristian diniy ulamolari Nicea soborida yig'ilib o'z aqidalari va biblia haqida qarorlarni qabul qilishganda ular orasida Iso alayhisalom shahsi haqida Hudoning ug'li emas aksincha payg'ambar ekanligiga ishonuvchilar bo'lgan, afsuski bu yig'ilishda qatnashganlarning ko'pchiligi aksining tarafdori bo'lgan. Albatta ko'pchilikning bu qarorga kelishida O'sha vaqtdagi imperator uzi ashaddiy kofir bo'lgan lekin hristianlikni o'z foydasiga ishlatgan Constantine sababchi bo'lganligiga shubha qilmayman. U hristianlik dini asoslariga Rim ko'phudolik unsurlarini qo'shilishini aqida sifatida kiritilishiga sababchi bo'lgan. Albatta Alloh bilguvchiroqdir.
Qushimcha malumot uhun quyidagi linkka kirishingiz mumkin:
http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/nicaea.html

[StU]

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[Sayyoh]

o net! jenshiny v platkah! ugnetennye jenshiny rossii! ih nemedlenno nado spasat ot iga tserkvi! oni govoryat pro religioznie chuvstva! im promyli mozgi! cherniye mashi!

vedut svoyu propagandu aj cherez transparanty!! ya v panike!!!:shocked!:

za offtop uzr konechno...

[shady_lady]

No tam vsyo taki v etoi knigi est nekotoriye interesniye fakti na chto horosho bilobi obratit' vnimaniya

I did not find anything new for me
All the history facts are real I agree
but the theory is not real or at least we do not have any facts to prove it =)
Be happy don't worry

[shayhontohur]

biz musulmonlar Iso a.s. Allohning haq payg'ambarligiga iymon keltirganmiza.Iso a.s.ning uylangan yoki uylanmaganini bizga qizigi yo'q,chunki biz Muhammad s.a.v.ning sunnatlariga ergashamiza.Yaqinda uydan Fozil qorining ma'ruzalari yozilgan kasseta yuborishdi,shu ma'ruzalarning birida uylanmagan inson bu dunyoda ham,ohiratda ham lan'atlanar ekan.Uylanmaslikka faqat Zakariyo a.s.ning ogillari Yahyo a.s.ga izn berilgan ekan.shunga asosan Iso a.s. uylanganlar deyish mumkin.

[Royal]

Hristiyanlarni hozirgi kundaagi assosie dinie qoanunlariyu va ularni din togrisidagi etayotganlarini asosan bu kitob tushunchasi bilan qaralsa YOQqa chiqarilishi kerak, shuni uchun ham filmni namoyish qilishlaridan oldin unga "Fiction" dip, huddi fantastika degandek izoh beriship keyin uni ekranlarga chiqishiga ruhsat berildi...

lekin mantiq nyuzasidan qaralsa filmda berilgan judayam kop voqealarni ozagi haqiqatdan kelib chiqishini korish mumkin, lekin bu bu togrida bahslashish uchun ancha bilimlik bolish ham kerak shu togrisida...

Bu film europada juda kopchilikni islom diniga otishlariga sababchi boldi...

[Black]

I personally think that there is nothing usefull discussing such issues. Why? Because Allah and His Messengere :saws: did not order us to search whether Isa a.s. was married or not. There is no use of such topics. What if he was married? Nothing! What if he was not? Nothing!
Allah gave us Islam, and we should follow it. And applying Islamic laws (Shariat) that everybody should get married or etc., etc., should not be applied to Isa a.s. Because, I think, Messengers of God had special status before God and sometimes they had to obey different laws than other common laws. For example Rasulillah :saws: had more than 4 wives, while other muslims can have maximum 4 wives.
So I think that it is better for us to think and discuss how to convey the massage of Islam to cristians and other nonmuslims instead of discussing whether Isa a.s. was married or not.

[Hamid]

Yes this book reveals some information from history(which was known to many christian scholars, but not to the public). But it does not offer a real substitution for christianity, instead it praises paganism.
So the best thing is to do research on history of christianity if you want to know more about how the bible was changed in order to serve the interests of the empire. (there are still christians around the workd who accept Isa (a.s) as prophet)

hh

[Rashit]

Фильм туфта не надо даже его обсуждать. Освистанный жюри, проклятый цервью

[Studieren12]

I personally think that there is nothing usefull discussing such issues. Why? Because Allah and His Messengere http://www.forum.uz/images/smilies/saws.gif did not order us to search whether Isa a.s. was married or not. There is no use of such topics. What if he was married? Nothing! What if he was not? Nothing! By Black

I guess there is some use in knowing whether Jesus Christ was married or not. In Bible, he is conveyed as a divine person who did not have a wife and nothing of that kind. In case it is proven that he had a wife, if it is possible of course, then I believe lots of people will have at least some doubt in the bible writings eventually leading chriastians to islam or atheism. But there is no exact evidence on any religious topics, so this can be disputed for ever or at least till the moment when a time machine is invented :-) Believe in anything, but the important point is whether your belief, faith helps you in your life to stay strong, to succeed and to live a happy life. No use in that of arguing to convert or to convey islamic laws to christians or nonmuslims. Well, you can do it if it brings some piece of happiness to your life. In this case, go for it.

[Akhee-Abdullah]

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