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Lady_G
07-14-2006, 11:24 AM
Agarda imkoningiz bo'lsa farzandingizni boshqa mamlakatda tug'ishga, imkondan foydalangan bo'larmidingiz?
NozChik
07-14-2006, 11:31 AM
Uzimiz kim-qaerda bulsak yana qaerga borib tugishumiz kerak:rolleyes: Sog salomat tugilsa buldi kaerdaligidan qattie nazar:)
Menga qosa uzimi opam Akusher-ginekolog opamdan kuemasin Hudoim.
Bunaqa temalar kupaeib ketti chesno priznavaetes kto planiruet:D
Martingale
07-14-2006, 11:33 AM
oho? niyatlar zurku! hali tuy bumadi shekilliku ibi?:D
farishtalar omin desin! quchqorday ug'il bersin beshigingizga!:) hamma ayollarga! :cool:
Lady_G
07-14-2006, 11:41 AM
LOOOL
Shunchaki shu savol keldide...
Martingaleni anu doktorlar diplomlarini sotib olishadila deganiga, shunaqa so'radimde.
Bunaqa temalar kupaeib ketti chesno priznavaetes kto planiruet:D
oba ;) :P
hali tuy bumadi shekilliku ibi?:D
Hudo hohlasa ....;) :P
p.s.: rahmat yahshi tilaklar uchun :)
kingdom
07-20-2006, 03:03 PM
bo`lardimu afsuski tugolmiymanda!:lool: :lool: Agarda imkoningiz bo'lsa farzandingizni boshqa mamlakatda tug'ishga, imkondan foydalangan bo'larmidingiz?
Kanari
07-20-2006, 03:22 PM
Savol o'z-O'zidan tug'a oladiganlarga berilgan shekill???
On:Ha albatta foydalanardim..agar Boyyyy bo'lganimda strahovkasiz Tug'ish imkoniga ega bo'lganimda...
bo`lardimu afsuski tugolmiymanda!:lool: :lool:
Agarda imkoningiz bo'lsa farzandingizni boshqa mamlakatda tug'ishga, imkondan foydalangan bo'larmidingiz?
Temani uqib tug'ish masalasi ekan deb kiribman
kanaka odamsan a butta busa katta tug'ishmush heh sani kara......:lol:
undan kura kando tug'ish kire, beremennostda nimala qilish kire, tug'ishdan kurkmaslikka nima qilish kire shulani suramisanmi a??
Lady_G
07-21-2006, 02:32 AM
Temani uqib tug'ish masalasi ekan deb kiribman
kanaka odamsan a butta busa katta tug'ishmush heh sani kara......:lol:
undan kura kando tug'ish kire, beremennostda nimala qilish kire, tug'ishdan kurkmaslikka nima qilish kire shulani suramisanmi a??Voy ponchikchameee http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/6.gif
Yahshimisan jon http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/5.gif ? Issula qiynab qo'ygandura?
Qo'rqmaslik kere, hammasi yahshi bo'ladi. Chuqur chuqur nafas olish kere, bo'masa babychkaga havo yetishmidi. Ko'zni yumuq tutish kere, bo'masa ko'zingdegi kapilyarlar yorilib qipp qizil bo'ladi.
Пушкарева
07-21-2006, 05:07 AM
Ana bo'lmasa! Man bulani Toshkentda kutib o'tirsam, iyulda kelaman degan odammi, ula esa tuqimi tuqmimi deb o'tiribdila..
Agarda imkoningiz bo'lsa farzandingizni boshqa mamlakatda tug'ishga, imkondan foydalangan bo'larmidingiz?
elDoraDo
07-21-2006, 06:15 AM
Agarda imkoningiz bo'lsa farzandingizni boshqa mamlakatda tug'ishga, imkondan foydalangan bo'larmidingiz?
Bunday ishlarda imkoniyatdan kora vaziyatga qarash kerak.
Vaziyat qaerni taqozo qilsa, shu yerda koz yorishi kerak.
Voy ponchikchameee http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/6.gif
Yahshimisan jon http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/5.gif ? Issula qiynab qo'ygandura?
Qo'rqmaslik kere, hammasi yahshi bo'ladi. Chuqur chuqur nafas olish kere, bo'masa babychkaga havo yetishmidi. Ko'zni yumuq tutish kere, bo'masa ko'zingdegi kapilyarlar yorilib qipp qizil bo'ladi.
Lady Gni uqib , bu ayol 4 tani qatorlatib quygan bulsa kerak, deb uylabman..:) Kuzni yumib deng!:))
On: V Yaponii naprimer, esli rojat' , gosudarstvo posle rodov vyplachivaet 300.000¥ (okolo 2,800 US$). No eto kak mne izvesno vsego lish' odin raz i mladenec ne mojet poluchit' status "grajdanstvo" ili daje " vid na jitel'stvo". A kak v etom plane v drugih stranah? Rasskajite , to chto znaete, posle chego mojno budet opredelit' : gde luchshe rojat'? Ili skajem gde samoe horoshoe obespechenie i privelegii dlya novorojdennogo-inostranca?
Uzbekxonim
07-22-2006, 02:13 AM
interesnoe ya uznala v vene: tam tebe ne razreshat rojat ni v odnoy bolnitse esli u tebya net austrian mommy's and baby's passport, gde zapisani vse analizi i issledovaniya sdelannie vo vremya beremennosti.
esli est vozmojnost rojat v drugoy strane -est risk rodit v samolete:lol: poetomu nado zaranee proveryat na kakom sroke (chashe vsego za 4 nedeli do predpologaemih rodov) airlines berut na bort :) eh, tyajko...
elDoraDo
07-22-2006, 05:13 AM
Lady Gni uqib , bu ayol 4 tani qatorlatib quygan bulsa kerak, deb uylabman..:) Kuzni yumib deng!:))
On: V Yaponii naprimer, esli rojat' , gosudarstvo posle rodov vyplachivaet 300.000¥ (okolo 2,800 US$).
but Y300.000is only a part of the whole payment of Y350.000 (private clinics) - Y450.000 (good hospitals) that one should pay to the hospital :) And it cannot be rewarded if you are high-income family.
but Y300.000is only a part of the whole payment of Y350.000 (private clinics) - Y450.000 (good hospitals) that one should pay to the hospital :) And it cannot be rewarded if you are high-income family.
Yomon profi bup ketimmizami?:)
Royal
07-22-2006, 06:09 AM
Agarda imkoningiz bo'lsa farzandingizni boshqa mamlakatda tug'ishga, imkondan foydalangan bo'larmidingiz?
osha bolani otasini oldida tuqqanila yahshiroq bosa kerak..
Amiri Turkiston
07-22-2006, 08:30 AM
bitta narsani etishim mumkin: O'zbekistonda tug'ish qimmatlashib ketvotti
hali unisi hali bunisi ...hammasiga qistir qistir qivurib odam hit bo'lib ketar ekan
hammasi poraho'r...uborshicadan tortib glavrachgacha
undan ko'rasi chet elga o'hshab bitta katta summani to'lagan afzalroq
lobar
07-22-2006, 08:41 AM
bitta narsani etishim mumkin: O'zbekistonda tug'ish qimmatlashib ketvotti
hali unisi hali bunisi ...hammasiga qistir qistir qivurib odam hit bo'lib ketar ekan
hammasi poraho'r...uborshicadan tortib glavrachgacha
undan ko'rasi chet elga o'hshab bitta katta summani to'lagan afzalroq
to'pppa to'ri!
bizadayam uzd.da, o'sha suyunchi muyunchilaniyam qo'shib ohiri obshiy summani to'lagan yahshi bo'lardi..
huddi USga o'hshab aa.., mana bizagayam kechagina keldi BILL "banisa haqi 11000$. O'zingga 7yarim ming, qizingga qaraganimizga 3yarim ming.., qani tez to'lab qoyilachi", digan :(
Amiri Turkiston
07-22-2006, 09:21 AM
to'pppa to'ri!
bizadayam uzd.da, o'sha suyunchi muyunchilaniyam qo'shib ohiri obshiy summani to'lagan yahshi bo'lardi..
huddi USga o'hshab aa.., mana bizagayam kechagina keldi BILL "banisa haqi 11000$. O'zingga 7yarim ming, qizingga qaraganimizga 3yarim ming.., qani tez to'lab qoyilachi", digan :(
to'g'ri gapiz
mana qarangda...tug'ruq honaqa yotishni qimmatliligini:
- 1 kunlik ovqat 3000 so'm
- glavrachni kunlik obsledovaniyasiga 1500
- postoyanno har hil dorilar...kuniga grubiy olganda 3000
- nyankalarga 1500...kir pirni yuvishar ekan
- so'yinchi:
+ glavrachga 15000 kam bulmasligi kerak ekan...u ham oilani topishiga bog'liq
+ doya buvilarga kamida 10000 dan
+ uborshica va qolgan hammalariga kamida 2/3 000 dan
hullas ...dahshat de...
uyga olib kelishga kamera/pamera...limuzin ...itd
uyda qovurdoq/pvurdoq...:D
bitta normalniy oylik ketar ekande hullas...mayli muhimi chaqaloq sog'lom tug'ilsa bulgani
lobar
07-22-2006, 11:26 AM
to'g'ri gapiz
mana qarangda...tug'ruq honaqa yotishni qimmatliligini:
- 1 kunlik ovqat 3000 so'm
- glavrachni kunlik obsledovaniyasiga 1500
- postoyanno har hil dorilar...kuniga grubiy olganda 3000
- nyankalarga 1500...kir pirni yuvishar ekan
- so'yinchi:
+ glavrachga 15000 kam bulmasligi kerak ekan...u ham oilani topishiga bog'liq
+ doya buvilarga kamida 10000 dan
+ uborshica va qolgan hammalariga kamida 2/3 000 dan
hullas ...dahshat de...
uyga olib kelishga kamera/pamera...limuzin ...itd
uyda qovurdoq/pvurdoq...:D
bitta normalniy oylik ketar ekande hullas...mayli muhimi chaqaloq sog'lom tug'ilsa bulgani
shuuu shu....
mashi narsalani, masalan zaril dori kere bop qosa banisa o'zi beruradi tirjayib dee, keyin shyotiyzga yozib qo'yuradi.
Bolaga kiyimchalaa, podgyznik, wipes, pilyonkasi, kereyli dori morila, hullas nima kerey bo'sa hammasini tirjayiiib taxt qib berishadi, xattoo mamashkaga hammmaa dorilani qo'shqo'llab op keb berishadi, mashuni ishlat, mamnaqa qilib, dib o'rgatshadiyam.
Uyingdan odam kesa mambu dorilani, mambu narsalani opkeb bersin dimiydi hich qaysisi :D
i uyga hursan chiqib keturasiz, muncha yahshi bu banisasi, dohtirlari aaaaa... dib !!
ii orqeyzdan chiroyli hat jo'natishadi.. 11000$ :P digan
indomiysiz, nimayam diysiz, sizga na vse 100 qarashdiyu, arziydi aaa
nima didiyz??? ;)
Abu Hurayra
07-22-2006, 12:02 PM
Agarda imkoningiz bo'lsa farzandingizni boshqa mamlakatda tug'ishga, imkondan foydalangan bo'larmidingiz?
Taqdirda qayerda nasib qilgan bo'lsa shunga rozimiz ;).
Bu yerda bazilar chet elda bolani dunyoga kelishiga boglik xarajatlar haqida to'xtalib o'tishdi, lekin ko'p evropa davlatlarida, masalan Germaniyada bu xarajatlarni (kishining a'zo bulib, oyida tegishli miqdordagi to'lovlarni amalga oshirib kelayatgan) Sug'urta shirkati o'z zimmasiga oladi.
Endi O'zbekistonga keladigan bo'lsak, hamma sohada bo'lgani kabi bu sohada ham o'sha poraho'rlik illati bor, bu ajablanarli emas, lekin achinarli holat.
Birnarsaga hayron qolaman, Ilgari buvilarimiz uy sharoitida bemalol 10 dan ortiq bolalarni dunyoga keltirishgan, hozirgi kunda ayollarimiz juda zayif bo'lib ketdimi deyman, 2 ta bolani ham zur'ga turli hil tibbiyot vositalari yordamida dunyoga keltirishadi.
Lekin Qishloqlardagi ayollar haliham baquvvat :cool:,
Ollohning o'zi sog' omonlikni bersin.
Kimda kim farzandli bo'lishga niyat qilgan bo'lsa, Solih farzandlar nasib qilsin
salomat bo'linglar!
Amiri Turkiston
07-22-2006, 12:23 PM
ii orqeyzdan chiroyli hat jo'natishadi.. 11000$ :P digan
indomiysiz, nimayam diysiz, sizga na vse 100 qarashdiyu, arziydi aaa
nima didiyz??? ;)
11000 ga bitta Nexia osa buladi yangisidan :lol:
man etardim lichno: hotin kel Toshkentda tug'ib qo'ya qol ...zato yangi moshinali bo'lib olasan deb...usha pulga o'zingga moshina olib beraman derdim...
W.I.Z.A.R.D
07-22-2006, 02:51 PM
Agarda imkoningiz bo'lsa farzandingizni boshqa mamlakatda tug'ishga, imkon?dan foydalangan bo'larmidingiz?
Bu savolni men uzimcha tahlil etdim:
Demak ayol kishining koz yorishiga bir necha kun qolgan.
va unda imkoniyat bor boshqa mamlakatda tugishga
Lekin bir narsani esda tutingki Uzbekistonda ohirgi payt hususiy tug´ruqhonalar soni juda kupayib ketmoqda
Bu hususiy tug´ruqhonalar juqori darajada hizmat kursata oladi.
Hizmat haqqi ham shunga yarasha.
Lekin masalaning ikkinchi tomoni bu hali unga suyunchi ber hali bunga ozroq pul qistir faqat shugina muammo.
Bir uylab kuringchi o´rta osiyoda qaysi mamlakat sizga yuqori darajada
muolajalar kursata oladi Bizning o´zbek tug´ruqhonalarimizdan unchalik farq qilmasa kerak .
Mayli unday bulsa sal uzoqga evropaga tugíshga bordingiz
Ana endi bir uylab kuring yu´l harajatiga qancha pul ketdi .
Bundan tashqari mehmonhona yana bir qancha ikir chikirlar .
p.s
Agarda imkoningiz bo'lsa farzandingizni boshqa mamlakatda tug'ishga, imkondan foydalangan bo'larmidingiz?
hulosa urnida yana bir gapni aytmoqchiman hoh uzbekistonda bulsin hoh boshqa mamlakatda bulsin inson evolyutsiyasi davridan boshlab ayol kishi qanday tug´gan bulsa shunday tug´ib kelaveradi
Uzimizni eski davrda ayollar qushni qishloqga tugísh uchun bormagan bulsa kerak!!! :)
FREDY.
NozChik
07-22-2006, 03:14 PM
Lady Gni uqib , bu ayol 4 tani qatorlatib quygan bulsa kerak, deb uylabman..:) Kuzni yumib deng!:))
On: V Yaponii naprimer, esli rojat' , gosudarstvo posle rodov vyplachivaet 300.000¥ (okolo 2,800 US$). No eto kak mne izvesno vsego lish' odin raz i mladenec ne mojet poluchit' status "grajdanstvo" ili daje " vid na jitel'stvo". A kak v etom plane v drugih stranah? Rasskajite , to chto znaete, posle chego mojno budet opredelit' : gde luchshe rojat'? Ili skajem gde samoe horoshoe obespechenie i privelegii dlya novorojdennogo-inostranca?
Salom Dilopa. U nas v UK jenshina nachinaet poluchat deketnie kogda plod 6 mesechnie. Summa zavisit ot eyo zarplati na tot moment. Oplachivaetsya 3 mesyatsya do rodov i 3 mesetsya posle rodov polnaya summa zarplati kotoruyu poluchaet biremmenaya na tot moment posle je ona poluchaet kakuyuto summu on zarplati no eto ochen malenkie dengi. No vsyo chto nujno dlya Rebyonka v eto vremya vi mojete poluchit v Hospitale besplatno.
Eastern_Dude
07-23-2006, 12:23 AM
how about in emergencies cases?
:D
interesnoe ya uznala v vene: tam tebe ne razreshat rojat ni v odnoy bolnitse esli u tebya net austrian mommy's and baby's passport, gde zapisani vse analizi i issledovaniya sdelannie vo vremya beremennosti.
esli est vozmojnost rojat v drugoy strane -est risk rodit v samolete:lol: poetomu nado zaranee proveryat na kakom sroke (chashe vsego za 4 nedeli do predpologaemih rodov) airlines berut na bort :) eh, tyajko...
Imkoni va sharoiti bo'lsa chet elda tug'ishni tavsiya qilgan bo'lar edim. Albatta buni opamlar va kennayimlani gaplaridan kelib chiqib aytayapman.
Tashkentda yaxhsi balnisalar bor, faqat pulingiz bo'lsa, bo\masa dahshatlisigayam chidashga to'g'ri keladi. Qishloqlarda esa dahshat, balnisa tugul, birorta doya ham topilmay ayrimlarida.
Lekin Nurotadagi tug'ruqxonani ham yaxshi deyishadi, finlandiyadan texnologiyalar keltirishgan ekan. Chunki ayollar va bolalar o'limi Navoi regionida eng katta sonni tashkil etar ekan.
Meni kennayim sergelidan sampiga yetomi nexiyada tug'uvdila, afsus jiyanimga 8 oy yashash nasib etibdi.
Lorelei
07-23-2006, 06:43 AM
men Uzbekistonga borib tug'ishni maslahat berardim. Qarindosh urug' jiyanchalar, biri qulidan tortib, biri oyog'idan tortib katta qib berishadi:lol: ! Pampersgayam ko'p pul ketmaydi, ishtonchalar kiyib katta bulaveradi, maslahatchiyam ko'p, unaqa qil bunaqa qil deydigan.
kingdom
07-23-2006, 07:02 AM
Menicha siz savolni notugri tushunibsiz deb uylayman muallif bu erda agar siz chet elda busangiz (usha erda yurgan bulsangiz ish,uqish)degan manoni nazarda tutgan menimcha hech kim Uzbdan tugish uchun boshqa davlatga bormasa kerak bunaqasi uchramasa ham keragov!Bizadagi tugriqxonalargayam gap yuq!Lobar opa bergan 11000$(bitta bolaga )Uzbda bitta futbolniy komadani tugishga yetadi :lol: :lol: Bu savolni men uzimcha tahlil etdim:
Demak ayol kishining koz yorishiga bir necha kun qolgan.
va unda imkoniyat bor boshqa mamlakatda tugishga
Lekin bir narsani esda tutingki Uzbekistonda ohirgi payt hususiy tug´ruqhonalar soni juda kupayib ketmoqda
Bu hususiy tug´ruqhonalar juqori darajada hizmat kursata oladi.
Hizmat haqqi ham shunga yarasha.
Lekin masalaning ikkinchi tomoni bu hali unga suyunchi ber hali bunga ozroq pul qistir faqat shugina muammo.
Bir uylab kuringchi o´rta osiyoda qaysi mamlakat sizga yuqori darajada
muolajalar kursata oladi Bizning o´zbek tug´ruqhonalarimizdan unchalik farq qilmasa kerak .
Mayli unday bulsa sal uzoqga evropaga tugíshga bordingiz
Ana endi bir uylab kuring yu´l harajatiga qancha pul ketdi .
Bundan tashqari mehmonhona yana bir qancha ikir chikirlar .
p.s
hulosa urnida yana bir gapni aytmoqchiman hoh uzbekistonda bulsin hoh boshqa mamlakatda bulsin inson evolyutsiyasi davridan boshlab ayol kishi qanday tug´gan bulsa shunday tug´ib kelaveradi
Uzimizni eski davrda ayollar qushni qishloqga tugísh uchun bormagan bulsa kerak!!! :)
FREDY.
Amiri Turkiston
07-23-2006, 01:00 PM
Imkoni va sharoiti bo'lsa chet elda tug'ishni tavsiya qilgan bo'lar edim. Albatta buni opamlar va kennayimlani gaplaridan kelib chiqib aytayapman.
Tashkentda yaxhsi balnisalar bor, faqat pulingiz bo'lsa, bo\masa dahshatlisigayam chidashga to'g'ri keladi. Qishloqlarda esa dahshat, balnisa tugul, birorta doya ham topilmay ayrimlarida.
Lekin Nurotadagi tug'ruqxonani ham yaxshi deyishadi, finlandiyadan texnologiyalar keltirishgan ekan. Chunki ayollar va bolalar o'limi Navoi regionida eng katta sonni tashkil etar ekan.
Meni kennayim sergelidan sampiga yetomi nexiyada tug'uvdila, afsus jiyanimga 8 oy yashash nasib etibdi.
tug'ishga finlayndiyani texnologiyasi bulmasa nima bularkan
nima bola oltin boshlik bo;lib qolmaydiku ahir...
gap texnologiyada emas...bu sohada agar kesereva/pesereva bulmasa unaqa aqilliy texnoligiyalar kerakmas
bitta akusherka ..toza mato ...qaychi ...spirt(ichishga :P ) bulsa buldi
iye kelin bola qop ketibtilaruuu :lol:
hech qaysi puli bor odam chetga chiqib tug'ib kelmagan...puli bor odam kerak bulsa zakonniy do'htirlarni yig'ib uyini eshigini tagiga tahlab qo'yadi
Asalik
07-24-2006, 12:43 AM
USda tugishni yahshi tomoni barcha sharoitlar bor, lekin bill ham shunga yarasha togri. Lobar, floridada agar qualify qisez health department'la medicaid berishadi, shunda bill'iz kopi bilan 1000$ boladi. bolali ayollar uchun ham bazi benefitla bor. mani farzandim floridada tugilgan, etgan benefitlarimdan foydalanganman
Lady_G
07-24-2006, 05:04 AM
Lady Gni uqib , bu ayol 4 tani qatorlatib quygan bulsa kerak, deb uylabman..:) Dil xonim ayol deb nima demoqchisiz?
Turmushga chiqmaganman ayol deyishizga!
Turmushga chiqmasam qanaqa tugaman???
Bola tug'ish uchun esa kim bilandur jinsi aloqada bo'lish kere. Siz ha ayolsiz, hotin kishisiz, lek man hali turmushga chiqmagan qizbolaman ;) . Bilmadim siz balkim turmushizdan oldin shunaqa qigandursiz, lek man yo'q!Kuzni yumib deng!:))Ha ko'zni yumib. 7oy ginekologiadan o'qish yonida assistentlik qiganman. O'shangayam bilaman.
Siz bittani tug'ib bilishiz kereku buni.
interesnoe ya uznala v vene: tam tebe ne razreshat rojat ni v odnoy bolnitse esli u tebya net austrian mommy's and baby's passport, gde zapisani vse analizi i issledovaniya sdelannie vo vremya beremennosti.Avutsriyani bilmadimu lek Hungaryda emergeny case hisoblanadi.
O'shangayam tekin bo'ladi hammasi. Lek bizadayam fuqorolik berishmidi. Guvohnomasigayam fuqoroligi nomalum deb yoziladi, huddi shunaqa pasport ham berishadi, o'z mamlakatiga qaytib borib (agarda konlustvo yo'q bo'lsa) qogozlarini, fuqoroligini hal etib kelsin deb.
esli est vozmojnost rojat v drugoy strane -est risk rodit v samolete:lol: poetomu nado zaranee proveryat na kakom sroke (chashe vsego za 4 nedeli do predpologaemih rodov) airlines berut na bort :) eh, tyajko...
28nchi haftadan so'ng samaletga chiqishga ruhsat berishmidila ;) .
osha bolani otasini oldida tuqqanila yahshiroq bosa kerak..естественно :)
Asadbek
07-24-2006, 06:47 AM
Mavzuga mos tusharkan:
Qo'chqorvoy aka shifoxonaga shoshilmoqda...
http://www.hurriyat.uz/images/ah3c.gif
Tug'ruqxona...
http://www.hurriyat.uz/images/ahc.gif
Manba': hurriyat.uz
antiSNOB
07-24-2006, 11:49 AM
Mavzuga mos tusharkan:
Qo'chqorvoy aka shifoxonaga shoshilmoqda...
http://www.hurriyat.uz/images/ah3c.gif
Tug'ruqxona...
http://www.hurriyat.uz/images/ahc.gif
Manba': hurriyat.uz
mavzuga to'ri keladimi yomi bilmadimku, lekin man biladigan 6-tug'ruqhona glavniylari wolksvagen passat ni ohirgilari va merc compressor lada yurishadi. Uzb sharoiti uchun bu billionerlik...
Lady_G
07-24-2006, 12:10 PM
Birnarsaga hayron qolaman, Ilgari buvilarimiz uy sharoitida bemalol 10 dan ortiq bolalarni dunyoga keltirishgan, hozirgi kunda ayollarimiz juda zayif bo'lib ketdimi deyman, 2 ta bolani ham zur'ga turli hil tibbiyot vositalari yordamida dunyoga keltirishadi.
Lekin Qishloqlardagi ayollar haliham baquvvat :cool:,
Eee adashas do'stim. Shaharni qizlariyam qolishmiydi. Mana man turmushga chiqsam Hudo hohlasa 11ta farzand tug'ib beraman ho'jayinimga :cool:
p.s: voybuu namunchaaaa :rolleyes: A birov sizlarga pul to'la deb majbur qiladimi? A suyunchini u o'lmagur ota hursandlikdan bermidimi ahir? Oldindan uff ungayam to'lash kere mungayam to'lash kere... Yahshiyam 9oy deganda tugamiz, a quyonlarga o'hshab qisqa vaqtda 100tani tugib tashasak vashem bankrotga tusharkanslaruu :twisted: :)
Ikiqatlar eson omon tuqqaylar ;)
lobar
07-24-2006, 11:24 PM
USda tugishni yahshi tomoni barcha sharoitlar bor, lekin bill ham shunga yarasha togri. Lobar, floridada agar qualify qisez health department'la medicaid berishadi, shunda bill'iz kopi bilan 1000$ boladi. bolali ayollar uchun ham bazi benefitla bor. mani farzandim floridada tugilgan, etgan benefitlarimdan foydalanganman
medicaidga topshirdik, javobini kutvommiiiz ;)
kingdom
07-25-2006, 04:54 AM
Bolani qayerda tugish masala bulishi kerak emas,aksincha uni sog-salomat tugish haqida uylash kerak!;) Axir bundan minglab yillar oldinam insonlar tugilganku usha hech qanaqa medisinasiz!yoki ular osmondan tushishganmi?:lol: yoshligimizda aldashardi :meni qaerdan olgan sizlar desak,senimi seni bogdan topib oldik deyishardi!:lol:
Royal
07-25-2006, 07:48 AM
USA da hech qachon ogir ahvoldagi kasalni davolash rad etilmagan dip oyliyman.
Ayniqsa 'oyogi ogir' ayollar 'kozi yorish' vaqtida hech qachon unga yordamlari ayalmiydi..har qandoq ish bolgandayam asosie harajatlar hukunat yani shtat fundidan tolanadi. bu bor gap. lekin ortada ba'azi bir shahsie doktorlar hizmatidan foydalanilgan bolsa unda ulardan kaslaga har doim BILL yani schyotlar kelib bezovta qilishi mumkin malum bir vaqtgacha, keyinroq ular ham ozlarini haqlarini Shtat fundidan olishadi. shu.
USda tugishni yahshi tomoni barcha sharoitlar bor, lekin bill ham shunga yarasha togri. Lobar, floridada agar qualify qisez health department'la medicaid berishadi, shunda bill'iz kopi bilan 1000$ boladi. bolali ayollar uchun ham bazi benefitla bor. mani farzandim floridada tugilgan, etgan benefitlarimdan foydalanganman
Zambrotta
07-25-2006, 08:27 AM
qatta tug'selaram, voqti o'tib ketmasin bolani, qorayib ketadi negrlaga uxshab :lool:
lyalyapo
07-25-2006, 08:44 AM
Samolyotga 28 haftadan keyin chiqarishmiydi deyilgan postlarni uqigandim, ushanga taluqli bir ikki savol bor edi. Eshitishim buyicha homilador ayol yo byoga boraman desa qanaqadur spravkalamiye nimadurlamiye kere bularkanmi? Kim busayam buladimi nechi haftaligidan suriydi hamda qanaqa spravkala? UK da qanaqa bu masalada qonun qoidala ?
A tak yahshi mavzu ekan oldinlari man uylirdim tug'ishga Uzbekistonga boraman, boshqa joyda tug'omiman deb, endi busa tug'ish to'g'ri kep qosa inshaallah UK da busa UK da boshqa joyda busa boshqa joyda tug'vuraman glavnoye erim oldimda busala buldi :).
Alesser
07-25-2006, 08:45 AM
Agar tanlash ilojisi bulsa, unda uzimizni Uzbekistanning Andijon shahridagi 1-roddom ham bulaveradi uzimmi tugilgan roddomim:) lek parqisi yuq, qaerda bulsa ham eson omon tugulib olsa buldi...
lobar
07-25-2006, 08:54 AM
Samolyotga 28 haftadan keyin chiqarishmiydi deyilgan postlarni uqigandim, ushanga taluqli bir ikki savol bor edi. Eshitishim buyicha homilador ayol yo byoga boraman desa qanaqadur spravkalamiye nimadurlamiye kere bularkanmi? Kim busayam buladimi nechi haftaligidan suriydi hamda qanaqa spravkala? UK da qanaqa bu masalada qonun qoidala ?
A tak yahshi mavzu ekan oldinlari man uylirdim tug'ishga Uzbekistonga boraman, boshqa joyda tug'omiman deb, endi busa tug'ish to'g'ri kep qosa inshaallah UK da busa UK da boshqa joyda busa boshqa joyda tug'vuraman glavnoye erim oldimda busala buldi :).
nime chiqarishmasakan :rolleyes:
man Toshkendan samolyotga chiqvotganimda 4 oylikdan oshgandi, hich kim hitlamagan ;)
Faqat eshitishim bo'yicha, endi bola bilan chetga chiqib ketishimiz uchun bolaga chet elga chiqishi uchun ruxsatnoma olinishi kereyakan.
Alesser
07-25-2006, 08:56 AM
Samolyotga 28 haftadan keyin chiqarishmiydi deyilgan postlarni uqigandim, ushanga taluqli bir ikki savol bor edi. Eshitishim buyicha homilador ayol yo byoga boraman desa qanaqadur spravkalamiye nimadurlamiye kere bularkanmi? Kim busayam buladimi nechi haftaligidan suriydi hamda qanaqa spravkala? UK da qanaqa bu masalada qonun qoidala ?
A tak yahshi mavzu ekan oldinlari man uylirdim tug'ishga Uzbekistonga boraman, boshqa joyda tug'omiman deb, endi busa tug'ish to'g'ri kep qosa inshaallah UK da busa UK da boshqa joyda busa boshqa joyda tug'vuraman glavnoye erim oldimda busala buldi :).
men shahsan tanigan bir qiz 7oylik homilasi bilan samalyotga chiqib USAga keldi, bilishimcha 7oydan oshib ketmagan bulsa homila hech qanday problem yuq...
Asalik
07-25-2006, 03:03 PM
Domestic flights or flights of short duration (one to four hours or so) generally have no restrictions for pregnant women flying. However, check with your airline as they may have a specific policy about this or they may place restrictions on a multiple pregnancy.
International flights or flights longer then four to five hours entail you being in the air for a fairly long period of time (long enough to give birth). Various airlines have their own policies and guidelines about restricting the acceptance of pregnant women passengers. This usually relates to how advanced your pregnancy is. Some airlines only take women up until about 26 weeks of pregnancy, while others are happy to take women until 36 weeks. Although this may be less if it is a multiple pregnancy, depending on the airline. Some airlines are open to negotiation in special circumstances, but will usually require a medical certificate. A few airlines require a letter from your caregiver stating when your baby is due and possibly your physical fitness to fly.
USda tugilgan bolalani Ozb.ga obormoqchi bolsez avvalo US passporti olishiz kerek, undan keyin Ozb. kirish uchun visa :(
Asadbek
07-26-2006, 04:23 AM
Bir rusning Livejournal-sahifasida ushbu mavzuga oid qiziq bir narsa o'qib qoldim.
Bu Moskvalik rus yaqinda qiz farzandlik bo'libdi. U o'z o'quvchilariga Tug'ruqxonada ketgan xarajatlar haqida ma'lumot beryapti:
Tuesday, July 11th, 2006
2:06 am - О демографии: цена вопроса
Спросил молодую супругу, во что нам обошлась Мария Николаевна. Молодая супруга, озаботившаяся этим вопросом сильно задолго за, по-менеджерски выслала электронные таблицы с подробной разблюдовкой. Разблюдовка оказалась настолько подробной, что включала пункты "карман на кровать", "мешок для сна с руками", "носочки размер 56 и 62 - 2 штуки" и прочее.
Как бы то ни было, рассказываю, во что в июне 2006 года обошлось рождение одной конкретно взятой девочки в Москве. Общая сумма будет несколько больше совокупности основных пунктов, потому как "карман на кровать" - это некоторый перебор в детализации, ИМХО. Но "карман на кровать" сюда входит.
Итак, считаем.
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Медицинские расходы в первом триместре: 2 УЗИ, анализы: 6000 рублей.
Контракт на ведение беременности со второго триместра: 20 500.
Контракт на роды: 29 500.
Лекарства и витамины в третьем триместре: 4500.
Коляска с автокреслом: 19 000.
Кроватка: 7800.
Baby Bjorn, слинг-шарф, слинг-перевязь: 5400.
Комод, пеленальный столик, ванночка: 7100.
Кроватные принадлежности: белье, бампер, матрас, клеенка, подушка, плед и т.д.: 5310.
Памперсы (3 упаковки по 96): 2300.
Молокоотсос: 2600.
Одноразовые пеленки, губка, ножницы, расческа, марлевые, простынка в коляску, палочки для ушей, вата, хлорофиллит, марганцовка, перикись водорода, клизма маленькая, градусник, марлевые салфетки, пипетка с округлым кончиком (2 шт.), грелка, аспиратор для носа: 1350.
Пустышки, соски, бутылки: 1050.
Белье для беременных, бандаж послеродовой, бюстгалтеры для кормления и т.д.: 6200.
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Общие расходы (включающие всякую фигню вроде варежек-царапок и пр. и не включающие взятки на въезд автомашины на территорию роддома, взятки медперсоналу, отправленную в роддом еду и пр.): 126 465 рублей ($4700).
http://nl.livejournal.com/510396.html
lyalyapo
07-26-2006, 07:45 AM
nime chiqarishmasakan :rolleyes:
man Toshkendan samolyotga chiqvotganimda 4 oylikdan oshgandi, hich kim hitlamagan ;)
Faqat eshitishim bo'yicha, endi bola bilan chetga chiqib ketishimiz uchun bolaga chet elga chiqishi uchun ruxsatnoma olinishi kereyakan.
Hitlamagan devos, uziz ham etmaganmisiz? Bir airport da ahamiyat bergandim kotta qilib yozb quyishgandi, pregnant busela habar beringiz dlya samih luchshe budet deb(shu ma'nodagi nimadur yozuv edide).Boshga tushganda indamasdan uchvurilikman bizayam shunaqa, hijobda buganimda 7 oygachayam tashqaridan bilinmasa keregov.
Yana bir savol bolani otasi UK citizen bulsa onasi Uzbek citizen bulsa, Uzbekistonga bolagayam visa olishga to'g'ri keladimi? Refugeeni bolasi busachi ?
~Atirgul~
07-26-2006, 09:39 AM
Hitlamagan devos, uziz ham etmaganmisiz? Bir airport da ahamiyat bergandim kotta qilib yozb quyishgandi, pregnant busela habar beringiz dlya samih luchshe budet deb(shu ma'nodagi nimadur yozuv edide).Boshga tushganda indamasdan uchvurilikman bizayam shunaqa, hijobda buganimda 7 oygachayam tashqaridan bilinmasa keregov.
Yana bir savol bolani otasi UK citizen bulsa onasi Uzbek citizen bulsa, Uzbekistonga bolagayam visa olishga to'g'ri keladimi? Refugeeni bolasi busachi ?
Mana biletning o'zida shundoq yoziladi: A passender holding a private medical clearance, which determines that the passenger can travel within an aircraft and includes the phrase "No Obstacle to Travel by Air", is prmitted to travel if the period of pregnancy exceeds 7 months (28 weeks). Medical clearance should be issued up to 7 days prior to the commencement of travel.
Asalik
07-26-2006, 07:21 PM
Yana bir savol bolani otasi UK citizen bulsa onasi Uzbek citizen bulsa, Uzbekistonga bolagayam visa olishga to'g'ri keladimi? Refugeeni bolasi busachi ?
Agar bola UKda tugilgan bolsa, refugeeni bolasi bolsa ham, manimcha, visa olish kere boladi. Agar UKda tugilgan bolaga UK citizenshipi berilsa albatta. Har holda USda tugilgan bolalannni ozb.ga opketishvotganida visa olishganini kop eshitganman.
Hamid
07-27-2006, 04:29 AM
bizning qizimiz ukda tugilgan, lekin ikkalamiz ham ozbekistonlikmiz.
Boshida registr officedan birth certificate olganmiz, keyin certificateni o'zbekchaga tarjima qilib, original certificateni foreign and commonwelath officedan legalise qildirib elchihonaga borganmiz, u yerda ham legalisationga pul to'lab ariza yozib uzbekistonning tugilganlik haqida guvohnomasini olganmiz, (yana aniq esimda yo'q, menimcha rasm ham kerak, bolani onasining passportiga qoyish uchun). Keyin bemalol uzbga borsa boladi.
Agar otasi british citizen bo'lsa unda qanaqa bo'lishini bilmadim, u menimcha boshida beriladigan hujjatlarga bogliq, agar british passport berilsa unda uzb visasi kerak, agar faqat certificate berilsa biz qilgandek wilsa bo'ladi, menimcha.
P.S. Men universitetda international student bolganim uchundir, bizda tugishga bir pound ham ketmagan, pregnancyning birinchi oyidan boshlab, clinicga borish, u yerda muolaja ko'rish, dorilar (ikki yil bepul bo'lgan, tugishdan oldin bir yil, tuggandan keyin bir yil), yana tugruqhonada ham hamma narsa bepul bo'lgan. Yana bitta tanishimiz ham huddi shunday edi adashmasam, londonda turardi, butun muolajalarga va consultationlarga bepul borgan, ekyin bizga bristolga kelib tug'gan edi, uje bolasi 1 yoshdan oshdi.
hh
kingdom
07-27-2006, 10:40 AM
Tinib-tinchimagan studentlaree nimalarni uylab topishmaydi deysiz!:lol: :lol: bizning qizimiz ukda tugilgan, lekin ikkalamiz ham ozbekistonlikmiz.
Boshida registr officedan birth certificate olganmiz, keyin certificateni o'zbekchaga tarjima qilib, original certificateni foreign and commonwelath officedan legalise qildirib elchihonaga borganmiz, u yerda ham legalisationga pul to'lab ariza yozib uzbekistonning tugilganlik haqida guvohnomasini olganmiz, (yana aniq esimda yo'q, menimcha rasm ham kerak, bolani onasining passportiga qoyish uchun). Keyin bemalol uzbga borsa boladi.
Agar otasi british citizen bo'lsa unda qanaqa bo'lishini bilmadim, u menimcha boshida beriladigan hujjatlarga bogliq, agar british passport berilsa unda uzb visasi kerak, agar faqat certificate berilsa biz qilgandek wilsa bo'ladi, menimcha.
P.S. Men universitetda international student bolganim uchundir, bizda tugishga bir pound ham ketmagan, pregnancyning birinchi oyidan boshlab, clinicga borish, u yerda muolaja ko'rish, dorilar (ikki yil bepul bo'lgan, tugishdan oldin bir yil, tuggandan keyin bir yil), yana tugruqhonada ham hamma narsa bepul bo'lgan. Yana bitta tanishimiz ham huddi shunday edi adashmasam, londonda turardi, butun muolajalarga va consultationlarga bepul borgan, ekyin bizga bristolga kelib tug'gan edi, uje bolasi 1 yoshdan oshdi.
hh
Hamid
07-27-2006, 11:48 AM
Tinib-tinchimagan studentlaree nimalarni uylab topishmaydi deysiz!:lol: :lol:
did not get your point?
just gave info for people who think that giving birth in the UK costs money.
hh
kingdom
07-27-2006, 02:21 PM
off:Xafa bumang aka hazillashgandim esingizda busa "Mahallada duv-duv gap"filmida bolani onasi shunaqangi deydiyu menam hazillashgandimda!Agar yomon tekkan busa oldindan uzurlar!;) did not get your point?
just gave info for people who think that giving birth in the UK costs money.
hh
Uzbekxonim
08-06-2006, 03:54 AM
28nchi haftadan so'ng samaletga chiqishga ruhsat berishmidila ;) .
естественно :)
yahshiyam 36 haftalik homilador ayolga uchish ruhsat beradigan airlineslar bor. a to tog'ish, dori-darmonlardan tashqari bolacha qachon tog'ilishni qaror qiladi deb kutib yashab turishga ancha pul ketadi (hotel, moetl etc) :)
Uzbekxonim
08-06-2006, 03:59 AM
how about in emergencies cases?
:D
i hope that in emergency case thay will behave as they should in emergency case :)
Maftuna
08-14-2006, 06:16 PM
My baby was born in Canada. We talked to the embassy in NY, they said we had a choice between either a canadian birth certificate or an Uzbek one. We went with the first one, so we had to get a visa for him before our trip to Uzb. For small babies the fees were much lower, f.e. if you pay $90 for a regular 3 months visa, the fee is $20 for a small child. Plus, if the parents are Uzb. citizens, no invitation from Uzb. is required. So it was relatively easy.
But I'm still trying to understand why our dear embassy officials gave my son a visa that was effective from the following date of our arrival in Tashkent. We specified our date of arrival on the visa application, it was big mistake. If not for the tanishlar at the airport, we'd have to wait for 3-4 hours inside the airport before we could go out. Isn't it terrible? Why would someone do smth like that? Especially for a small baby...
Sorry for offtop.
kingdom
08-15-2006, 04:27 AM
shu yosh bollarga,chaqaloqlargayam visa kerakmi?:rolleyes: axmoqgarchilikdan boshqa narsa emas
ДЖИГИТ
08-15-2006, 05:51 AM
9 Signs You May Be Pregnant with Twins
1. You just feel you're carrying more than one baby. Don't disregard intuition or dreams. Some mothers of twins (or higher order multiples) say that they knew right from the start that they were carrying more than one baby.
2. You experience more nausea and/or morning sickness. If you are having more than one baby, you may also have an elevated hCG level. Higher levels of hCG also make it more likely that you will have bouts of morning (or all-day) sickness (http://parenting.ivillage.com/pregnancy/pfirsttri/0,,4628,00.html?par=msn|diet|pp|hyper&iv_cobrandRef=msndiet).
3. Other normal pregnancy symptoms may be exaggerated. Many women -- but not all -- who are pregnant with twins have more intense pregnancy symptoms, likely due to the extra hormones circulating through their system. You may find that your breasts are very tender (http://parenting.ivillage.com/pregnancy/pfirsttri/0,,48dw,00.html?par=msn|diet|pp|hyper&iv_cobrandRef=msndiet), you have to urinate frequently, you are hungry all the time and you are very tired. In the second trimester, you may experience difficulty catching your breath, swelling (edema) of the hands and legs, an unusual rate of weight gain and abdominal enlargement and excessive fetal movement. Anemia or low iron (decreased hemoglobin) is also common with twin and multiple pregnancies.
4. You gain weight rapidly in your first trimester. A higher than average weight gain (http://parenting.ivillage.com/pregnancy/pfirsttri/0,,midwife_4471,00.html?par=msn|diet|pp|hyper&iv_cobrandRef=msndiet) in the first trimester may be your first clue that you're carrying more than one baby. If you're eating well, don't be concerned: A study in the American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology stressed the importance of early weight gain for twin pregnancies, since weight gain in the first two trimesters was found to have the greatest impact on birth weight. (American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology 1998;179:1155-1161)
5. You measure large for gestational age. At your first exam you may be told that your uterus is "large for dates." If your last menstrual period indicates an eight-week gestation, your uterus may feel more like 10 to 12 weeks. This may prompt your care provider to request an ultrasound. As your pregnancy progresses, if you are carrying more than one baby, your fundal height (uterine measurement) will consistently measure large for gestational age. A term uterus, with one baby, may reach 38 to 40 centimeters in height, measured from the pubic bone, while a term twin pregnancy may exceed 48 centimeters.
6. You are told that you have elevated levels of AFP.Levels of alpha fetoprotein (AFP) (http://parenting.ivillage.com/pregnancy/pmultiples/0,,midwife_3phk,00.html?par=msn|diet|pp|hyper&iv_cobrandRef=msndiet), a protein released by the baby as it grows and found in the mother's blood, can be elevated when there is more than one baby. (It can also be elevated for other reasons, such as neural tube defects.) Normally this simple blood test is given 16 to 18 weeks after your last menstrual period. Alpha fetoprotein testing detects over half of all twin pregnancies.
7. You are told you have rapidly rising hCG levels.Human Chorionic Gonadotrophin (hCG) (http://health.ivillage.com/gyno/gynoreprohealth/0,,5l8g,00.html?par=msn|diet|wb|hyper&iv_cobrandRef=msndiet) is a hormone produced by the fertilized egg and by the chorionic villi. It is needed to maintain the pregnancy until the placenta develops. It can be detected in your blood or urine even before you miss a period. Normally in a singleton pregnancy, blood (serum) concentrations of hCG rise rapidly during the first weeks, doubling every two to three days. Levels of hCG can be even higher with twin or multiple pregnancies.
8. Your provider hears two fetal heartbeats. Two separate heartbeats (http://parenting.ivillage.com/pregnancy/pfirsttri/0,,midwife_3p7p,00.html?par=msn|diet|pp|hyper&iv_cobrandRef=msndiet) can be distinguishable with a Doppler in your care provider's office by around 12 weeks. At around 28 weeks, it may be possible to differentiate two fetal heads and multiple small parts when doing an abdominal exam.
9. You have a positive ultrasound. If you believe you are indeed pregnant with twins, an ultrasound can be performed quite early in pregnancy. With a skilled ultrasonographer, two gestational sacs, two embryos and two distinct fetal heartbeats can be seen six weeks after the first day of the last menstrual period. Many twins have been diagnosed as early as five weeks -- when you're just one week late for your menstrual period.
Flamingo
11-02-2006, 07:16 AM
medicaidga topshirdik, javobini kutvommiiiz ;)
Medicaidga oldindan topshirsayam buladiku? Hech qanday muammosiz berishlari kerak. Farqi shundaki, shaxsiy duxtirxonalarda qabul qilmasliklari mumkin.
Bolagachi? Boladayam insurance bormi?
Flamingo
11-02-2006, 07:18 AM
uyga olib kelishga kamera/pamera...limuzin ...itd
uyda qovurdoq/pvurdoq...:D
Unaqada Uzbekistonda tug'ish mazza ekanda.
Flamingo
11-02-2006, 07:21 AM
USda tugishni yahshi tomoni barcha sharoitlar bor, lekin bill ham shunga yarasha togri. Lobar, floridada agar qualify qisez health department'la medicaid berishadi, shunda bill'iz kopi bilan 1000$ boladi. bolali ayollar uchun ham bazi benefitla bor. mani farzandim floridada tugilgan, etgan benefitlarimdan foydalanganman
Man off qilaman shekilli, lekin surashga izhozat bering: etgan benefitlarimdan foydalanganman . Shu zhumlani izohlab berolmaysizmi?
Oldindan raxmat.
Flamingo
11-02-2006, 07:25 AM
USA da hech qachon ogir ahvoldagi kasalni davolash rad etilmagan dip oyliyman.
Ayniqsa 'oyogi ogir' ayollar 'kozi yorish' vaqtida hech qachon unga yordamlari ayalmiydi..har qandoq ish bolgandayam asosie harajatlar hukunat yani shtat fundidan tolanadi. bu bor gap. lekin ortada ba'azi bir shahsie doktorlar hizmatidan foydalanilgan bolsa unda ulardan kaslaga har doim BILL yani schyotlar kelib bezovta qilishi mumkin malum bir vaqtgacha, keyinroq ular ham ozlarini haqlarini Shtat fundidan olishadi. shu.
Bu qaysi shtatligiga bog'liq. Nima bulgandayam BILL larni "qarzga" yozib quyishadi SSN ga. Oyma oy tulasayam buladi. Tulamasa aytib utganimday "qora ruyxat" bulib turadi.
Lady_G
11-02-2006, 07:34 AM
Shirina, vaqt yaqinlashib qoldimi deyman :) ?
Flamingo
11-02-2006, 08:26 AM
Shirina, vaqt yaqinlashib qoldimi deyman :) ?
Xudoga shukr, sinovdan utib buganmiz. Omon qoldik, shekilli.:lol:
referee
11-02-2006, 11:17 AM
Agar bola UKda tugilgan bolsa, refugeeni bolasi bolsa ham, manimcha, visa olish kere boladi. Agar UKda tugilgan bolaga UK citizenshipi berilsa albatta. Har holda USda tugilgan bolalannni ozb.ga opketishvotganida visa olishganini kop eshitganman.
UKda citizenship bolaga beriladi agar hohlasaiz, lekin uni foydasi kamu zarari kop bolishi mumkin chunki bolayzni olib qolib uzizzi deportazija qilishi hech gap emas...
UZBEK
11-02-2006, 01:21 PM
Siz aytganday imkon bo'lib 2ta farzandli bo'lganman.Ular US ni citizenlari.Toshkentga borish uchun 2la bolamgayam visa olganmiz.Har bir visani 4 yilga bergan(ularni Toshkentda ishlashga haqilari yoq:( :( ).Ularni US da tugilganidan hursand bo'laman,lekin kelajagidan qo'rqaman...Bilmadim nega shundan qo'rqaman...;)
Shawn
11-02-2006, 03:00 PM
Siz aytganday imkon bo'lib 2ta farzandli bo'lganman.Ular US ni citizenlari.Toshkentga borish uchun 2la bolamgayam visa olganmiz.Har bir visani 4 yilga bergan(ularni Toshkentda ishlashga haqilari yoq:( :( ).Ularni US da tugilganidan hursand bo'laman,lekin kelajagidan qo'rqaman...Bilmadim nega shundan qo'rqaman...;)
O'zbek Elchixonasidan U.S.da to'g'ilganlarga o'zbek fuqaroligini olib bo'lmaydimi, ya'ni ham o'zbek, ham U.S. fuqaroligini? Harakat qilib ko'rmadingizmi?
Angeleyes
11-02-2006, 06:35 PM
Siz aytganday imkon bo'lib 2ta farzandli bo'lganman.Ular US ni citizenlari.Toshkentga borish uchun 2la bolamgayam visa olganmiz.Har bir visani 4 yilga bergan(ularni Toshkentda ishlashga haqilari yoq:( :( ).Ularni US da tugilganidan hursand bo'laman,lekin kelajagidan qo'rqaman...Bilmadim nega shundan qo'rqaman...;)
i have same problem for my son. Uzb-n doesn't have dual citizenship, that's why my kid has to take a visa before going to Uzb.:(
Asalik
11-02-2006, 10:44 PM
Man off qilaman shekilli, lekin surashga izhozat bering: etgan benefitlarimdan foydalanganman . Shu zhumlani izohlab berolmaysizmi?
Oldindan raxmat.
Etmoqchi bo'ganim, medicaid'dan foydalanganman, yana WIC'dan ham.
Asalik
11-02-2006, 10:45 PM
UKda citizenship bolaga beriladi agar hohlasaiz, lekin uni foydasi kamu zarari kop bolishi mumkin chunki bolayzni olib qolib uzizzi deportazija qilishi hech gap emas...
Why would they do that?
Flamingo
11-02-2006, 11:38 PM
Etmoqchi bo'ganim, medicaid'dan foydalanganman, yana WIC'dan ham.
WIC haqida eshitganman, birov bu deydi , boshqasi u deydi. Ilozhi bulsa tuliqroq ma'lumotga ega bulmoqchi edim.:uups:
Pythagor
11-03-2006, 12:00 AM
Qatta do'xtirxona to'g'ri kelsa tug'uvrilar, bollarin sog' omon bo'lsa biza xursand...
Asalik
11-03-2006, 12:05 AM
WIC haqida eshitganman, birov bu deydi , boshqasi u deydi. Ilozhi bulsa tuliqroq ma'lumotga ega bulmoqchi edim.:uups:
WIC(Women, infants, children). Bolasini emizadigan ayolla bolasi 1 yoshga to'lgunicha, 1 yoshli bolalar, undan tashqari yana bir nechta kategoriyadagi odamla foydalanishi mumkin. Har oy check berishadi, oshanga qanchadur miqdorda sut, syr, tuna, goroh, sabzi, tuhum va cereal osez bo'ladi. Kim bo'lishidan qat'iy nazar, homilador, emizuvchi va bolalai ayollani hammasi WICga eligible bo'laoladi manimcha.
Shawn
11-03-2006, 12:07 PM
WIC(Women, infants, children). Bolasini emizadigan ayolla bolasi 1 yoshga to'lgunicha, 1 yoshli bolalar, undan tashqari yana bir nechta kategoriyadagi odamla foydalanishi mumkin. Har oy check berishadi, oshanga qanchadur miqdorda sut, syr, tuna, goroh, sabzi, tuhum va cereal osez bo'ladi. Kim bo'lishidan qat'iy nazar, homilador, emizuvchi va bolalai ayollani hammasi WICga eligible bo'laoladi manimcha.
Bolasi 5 yoshdan oshmagan bo'lishi kerak.
UZBEK
11-03-2006, 03:06 PM
O'zbek Elchixonasidan U.S.da to'g'ilganlarga o'zbek fuqaroligini olib bo'lmaydimi, ya'ni ham o'zbek, ham U.S. fuqaroligini? Harakat qilib ko'rmadingizmi?
Bu narsa haqida o'ylab ko'rmagan ekanman:) ,Maslahatingiz uchun katta rahmat.Buni Uzbekiston posolstvasidan surishtirishimiz kerakmi?,kim biladi???;) ;)
Shawn
11-03-2006, 04:07 PM
Bu narsa haqida o'ylab ko'rmagan ekanman:) ,Maslahatingiz uchun katta rahmat.Buni Uzbekiston posolstvasidan surishtirishimiz kerakmi?,kim biladi???;) ;)
Man ham hozir shu masalani hal qilish yo'llarini o'ylayapman, lekin hali elchixona bilan gaplashganimcha yo'q. Elchixonadan O'zbekistonning fuqaroligini olsa bo'ladi deb eshitgandim. Manimcha avval O'zbekiston fuqaroligini olib olsa, bola U.S. da to'g'ilgan bo'lsa U.S. fuqarologini olish qiyin bo'lmasa kerak. Shuning uchun avval elchixonadan bolaga O'zbekiston "Birth certificate"ini olib, keyin U.S. passportiga harakat qilmoqchiman. Nima bo'ladi bilmayman. Mana bu threadni bir ko'ring balki biror foydali ma'lumot toparsiz :http://forum.arbuz.com/showthread.php?t=32321&highlight=birth+certificate+child
UZBEK
11-03-2006, 04:33 PM
Man ham hozir shu masalani hal qilish yo'llarini o'ylayapman, lekin hali elchixona bilan gaplashganimcha yo'q. Elchixonadan O'zbekistonning fuqaroligini olsa bo'ladi deb eshitgandim. Manimcha avval O'zbekiston fuqaroligini olib olsa, bola U.S. da to'g'ilgan bo'lsa U.S. fuqarologini olish qiyin bo'lmasa kerak. Shuning uchun avval elchixonadan bolaga O'zbekiston "Birth certificate"ini olib, keyin U.S. passportiga harakat qilmoqchiman. Nima bo'ladi bilmayman. Mana bu threadni bir ko'ring balki biror foydali ma'lumot toparsiz :http://forum.arbuz.com/showthread.php?t=32321&highlight=birth+certificate+child
Manimcha bizani bolalaga bo'lmasa kerak,chunki biza US passportini olib bo'lganmiza:uups:.Siz aytayotgan yo'l yangi tug'ilgan bola uchun mumkin,agar sizni to'g'ri tushungan bo'lsam ...;)
Shawn
11-03-2006, 04:36 PM
Manimcha bizani bolalaga bo'lmasa kerak,chunki biza US passportini olib bo'lganmiza:uups:.Siz aytayotgan yo'l yangi tug'ilgan bola uchun mumkin,agar sizni to'g'ri tushungan bo'lsam ...;)
To'gri tushinibsiz, biza hali passportga harakat qilganimiz yo'q.
Pythagor
11-03-2006, 05:54 PM
O'zbek Elchixonasidan U.S.da to'g'ilganlarga o'zbek fuqaroligini olib bo'lmaydimi, ya'ni ham o'zbek, ham U.S. fuqaroligini? Harakat qilib ko'rmadingizmi?
O'zbekiston ikki fuqorolikni tan olmaydi, ikkalasidan birini tanlashinglar kerak, lekin bir necha yil avval 1-2ta Rossiya futbolchilariga berishgandi, O'zb. terma jamoasida o'ynashlari uchun.
Flamingo
11-03-2006, 06:05 PM
To'gri tushinibsiz, biza hali passportga harakat qilganimiz yo'q.
Bizadayam hali passport yuq. Man gaplariyizga qushildimu , lekin hech narsaga tushunmadim.:uups:
Shawn
11-03-2006, 07:08 PM
O'zbekiston ikki fuqorolikni tan olmaydi, ikkalasidan birini tanlashinglar kerak, lekin bir necha yil avval 1-2ta Rossiya futbolchilariga berishgandi, O'zb. terma jamoasida o'ynashlari uchun.
Man aytmoqchi bo'lganim, birinchi elchihonadan o'zbek fuqaroligini olib, keyin ularga bildirmasdan U.S. passportini olib olsa bo'lmasmikin degan ma'noda edi. Shunda bolada 2 ta fuqarolik bo'ladi, lekin o'zimiznikilarga aytilmaydi. O'zimni tajribam yo'q, shunaqa yo'lni qilib ko'rganlar bo'lsa ularning tajribasini eshitib ko'rsak yaxshi bo'lardi.
Shawn
11-03-2006, 07:14 PM
Bizadayam hali passport yuq. Man gaplariyizga qushildimu , lekin hech narsaga tushunmadim.:uups:
Nimani tushunmadingiz? Elchixonadan bolaning metrikasini oldingizmi?
Flamingo
11-03-2006, 07:25 PM
Nimani tushunmadingiz? Elchixonadan bolaning metrikasini oldingizmi?
Yuq. Shuni uylab boshimiz garang. Nima qilish kerak uzi. Hozircha US fuqarosi. Uzbga qanaqa qilib ketadi?:uups:
Shawn
11-03-2006, 07:27 PM
WIC haqida eshitganman, birov bu deydi , boshqasi u deydi. Ilozhi bulsa tuliqroq ma'lumotga ega bulmoqchi edim.:uups:
Agar o'zingiz turgan joydagi WICning adresini bilmasangiz mana bu saytdan o'z Shtatingizning WIC websiteni topsangiz bo'ladi, u erda qanaqa hujjatlar kerakligi yozilgan bo'lishi kerak: http://www.fns.usda.gov/wic/Contacts/statealpha.HTM
O'z Shtatingizni WICini websitedan o'zingiz turgan shahardagi WICning adresini topasizda, appointment qilib talab qilingan hujjatlar bilan borasiz. WICga "eligible" bo'lishingiz uchun U.S. fuqarosi bo'lishingiz shart emas.
Shawn
11-03-2006, 07:32 PM
Yuq. Shuni uylab boshimiz garang. Nima qilish kerak uzi. Hozircha US fuqarosi. Uzbga qanaqa qilib ketadi?:uups:
Tushunishimcha Sizlarda ham metrika ham, U.S. passporti ham yo'q. Manda ham shunaqa, keyingi hafta elchixona bilan nima qilish kerakligini gaplashsam kerak. Natijasini saytda yozib habardor qilaman. Siz ham elchixonaga telefon qilib surishtirib kuring, har holda ular yaxshiroq tushunishadi.
referee
11-04-2006, 02:28 AM
Why would they do that?
They could because a child is a british citizen first of all, so he is 'protected'by british laws on child care. If the social services are told that you or your family 'abuse' ýour child or that your family is not good for his welfare then they could take away your child to a foster family. Also, if parents are charged with crime and deported your child may not necesarrily be deported with you as he's british. I am simplifying things, but you got my point if your child is British, then British laws apply to him. There is recently a big scandal about a Pakistani-British girl who wants to stay in Pakistan but her mother, british, wants her to be sent back to england- there's also politics there...
Mengli
11-21-2006, 08:06 PM
Assalomu Aleykum
I can see on forum there are more forum users who recently became mothers and fathers. Out of curiousity wanted to ask this question: did any of you know who are you gonna have (boy or a girl) through some sort of feeling or dream you had? And how correct your feeling or dream turned out to be?
And I'm not talking about getting the info through Ultrasound (UZI),because even Ultrasound gives wrong info.
prosto interesno uznat'.
zaranee blagodaryu za vashi otvety.
Prince
11-21-2006, 09:05 PM
Agarda imkoningiz bo'lsa farzandingizni boshqa mamlakatda tug'ishga, imkondan foydalangan bo'larmidingiz?
Lady_G qizu savol bupti lekin hozir danniy moment farqi yo qatta tugilishi , KAMCHATkadami AMERIKADAMI Angliadami , OGIL BOSA rozimiz!! Kanchatkada tugilsa xam! :D
Bilol
11-22-2006, 12:30 AM
Agarda imkoningiz bo'lsa farzandingizni boshqa mamlakatda tug'ishga, imkondan foydalangan bo'larmidingiz?
Shu imkoniyatdan foydalangan holda ikkinchi o`g`lim shu yili Pekinda tug`ildi.Xudoga shukr hammasi yaxshi.
Bizada grajdanstva problemasi yoq. Xitoy hech kimga fuqorolik bermidi o`ziniki eterli-de.;)
Silence
11-22-2006, 12:51 AM
Assalomu Aleykum
I can see on forum there are more forum users who recently became mothers and fathers. Out of curiousity wanted to ask this question: did any of you know who are you gonna have (boy or a girl) through some sort of feeling or dream you had? And how correct your feeling or dream turned out to be?
And I'm not talking about getting the info through Ultrasound (UZI),because even Ultrasound gives wrong info.
prosto interesno uznat'.
zaranee blagodaryu za vashi otvety.
Мне было невероятно стыдно за то, что у меня пресловутого чувства уверенности в поле будущего малыша не было. Я просто знала, что внутри меня растет человечек, котрого я очень люблю и все.
А что касается моего супруга, то он твердо знал, что будет девочка. Его уверенность в этом вопросе просто поражала. Он знал, что это будет девочка, что она будет с кудряшками и уже знал ее имя. Так все и получилось.
А что касается снов. К концу срока сон становится все хуже, одолевает какое то беспокойство. Мне частенько снился один и тот же сон. Ребенка я родила, но мне его не отдают. Кошмар одним словом...Скроее всего эти сны просто отражение общего состояния беспокойства накануне такого ответственного события как роды.
С уважением,
Silence
elDoraDo
11-22-2006, 10:31 AM
Мне частенько снился один и тот же сон. Ребенка я родила, но мне его не отдают. Кошмар одним словом...
I u vas tak bylo :)? daaa, nado b vnesti eto v spisok priznakov.
A esli seryozno, v nachale beremennosti u jeny, ya uvidel son, za mnoy gnalsya baran, takoy cherniy i esho s rogami. Prichem v eto vremya ya esho ne byl v kurse chto ona zaberemenela. Ya eto potom kak to rasskazal blizkim, hotya k etomu vremeni jena uje poradovala menya. A blizkie skazali, jena beremenna, budet syn. Ne znayu naskolko eto imeet otnesheniye k realnosti a mojet eto bylo lish sovpadenie, no ya byl uveren chto u nas roditsya syn. (hotya mnogie calendari i raznie tablicy ukazyvali na drugoye ;) )
Gareeb
11-23-2006, 05:23 AM
Assalomu Aleykum
I can see on forum there are more forum users who recently became mothers and fathers. Out of curiousity wanted to ask this question: did any of you know who are you gonna have (boy or a girl) through some sort of feeling or dream you had? And how correct your feeling or dream turned out to be?
And I'm not talking about getting the info through Ultrasound (UZI),because even Ultrasound gives wrong info.
prosto interesno uznat'.
zaranee blagodaryu za vashi otvety.
Bu haqda oldin ko'p o'ylardim hozir deyarli xayol surmayman.Xudo nima bersa roziman, eng muhimi farzandlarim iymoniy,ruhiy,jismoniy taraflama sog'lom bo'lsa,farzandlarimning onasi sog'lom bo'lsa bo'ldi.Ultrasound-multrasound bilan ishimiz yo'q,qiziqmaymz, bilishni hohlamaymiz ham.
Mengli
11-23-2006, 06:53 AM
Bu haqda oldin ko'p o'ylardim hozir deyarli xayol surmayman.Xudo nima bersa roziman, eng muhimi farzandlarim iymoniy,ruhiy,jismoniy taraflama sog'lom bo'lsa,farzandlarimning onasi sog'lom bo'lsa bo'ldi.Ultrasound-multrasound bilan ishimiz yo'q,qiziqmaymz, bilishni hohlamaymiz ham.
I think you totaly misunderstood my post. I wasn't asking about people's thoughts on Ultrasound, although Ultrasound as scientific invention has quite more advantages for medical uses, rather than just being a tool find out gender of the baby. My purpose was to find out people's feelings or dreams and if it turned out to be correct.
Akademik
11-24-2006, 10:35 AM
Agarda imkoningiz bo'lsa farzandingizni boshqa mamlakatda tug'ishga, imkondan foydalangan bo'larmidingiz?
Juda yahshi bo'ladi. Sizga yordam berishim mumkin bu msalada agar hohlasangiz ( hazil albatta ) Yahshilab o'ylab ko'ring.
Salomat bo'ling
Lolika
11-24-2006, 11:03 PM
Tushunishimcha Sizlarda ham metrika ham, U.S. passporti ham yo'q. Manda ham shunaqa, keyingi hafta elchixona bilan nima qilish kerakligini gaplashsam kerak. Natijasini saytda yozib habardor qilaman. Siz ham elchixonaga telefon qilib surishtirib kuring, har holda ular yaxshiroq tushunishadi.
Agar bolez US citizen bosa bowqa davlatlaga op4iqmoh4i bosez, siz bolez u4un passport oliwiz kerey (travel.state.org wu web sayttan kereyli infola liwi mumkin), siz yawavotgan joyda post officega borin owatta application zapolnyat qilasiz owatti ozida bolezi rasmga tuwiradi va 150$ atrofida fee tolis (v zavisimosti ot togo kak bistro vi hotite polu4it passport) passportga apply qivotgan paytta bolani ota va onasi prisustvovat qiliwi wart! oziz bilan bolani birth certificatiniyam ovolin, keyin bolezga passportni po4ta orqali 3 oy i4ida (usually its faster) olasiz. Agar Ozbekistonga bolezi obormoh4i bosez uzbekistan.org saytiga kirin owatta vizaga application zapalnyat qilin, 100$ ga money order olinde owa applicationga qowib bolani passportini, ozizi va bolezi otasini passport kopiyalarini, yana nima uchun farzandizga viza oliw sabablarini yozib birga Ozbekiston el4ihonasiga jonatasiz, addresini owa sayttan topsez boladi. kstati yana ulaga sizga passportni qaytib jonatiwi uchun obratniy adress bilan puli tolangan konvert ham jonatiwiz kerey. Jelatelno dokumentlani jonatkanizdan 2-3 kunladan keyin passolstvaga teleon qilib soren hamma hujjatla yetarlimi yomi. Boldi man hudo hohlasa uje bolami passportiniyam i vizasiniyam oldim ..............
Lolika
11-24-2006, 11:15 PM
kstati ultrasound(UZI)ga kesey, unaqa 100% uvereniy bomela coz kogda ya bila beremenna doktor mne skazal 4to ultrasound pokazivayet 4to u menya budet devo4ka, a u menya rodilsya mal4ik. Tak 4to tehnika toje owibayetsya, budet to 4to Allah zaho4it
Uda4i buduwim mam .............
Flamingo
11-25-2006, 02:20 AM
kstati ultrasound(UZI)ga kesey, unaqa 100% uvereniy bomela coz kogda ya bila beremenna doktor mne skazal 4to ultrasound pokazivayet 4to u menya budet devo4ka, a u menya rodilsya mal4ik. Tak 4to tehnika toje owibayetsya, budet to 4to Allah zaho4it
Uda4i buduwim mam .............
Ishonseyiz man UZI ga umuman tushmaganman. Aniqrog'i tushganimda hali jinsini aniqlashi imkoni bulmagan. Shundan keyin bormaganman.
Jadvalda (mama.ru) qiz buladi deb yozilgandi. Ayamam qiz busa kerak deganla.
Hech ikkilanmasdan qiz bolani narsalarini sotib olganmiz.;)
laluluya
11-30-2006, 07:35 PM
USAda tug'ganla silaga savolim ,agar bir kun kelib o'z yurtilaga qaytish kerak bo'lib qoldi deylik,farzandingizni bu hukumat olib qo'ymasligiga ishonasilami.men eshitishim bo'yicha davlat bolani olib qo'yarmish bizzi fuqaromiz deb.shunga nima deysila?
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