Is This True?

[Mo'jiza]

Shu nom bilan atalgan quyidagi matnni Universitetda magistrlikka o'qiydigan bir Pastor elektron pochta orqali yuborib, mendan shu to'g'rimi deb so'rabdi. Hali javobini yozmadim, noto'g'ri, deb yozmoqchiman. Jazo zamonaviy bo'lib ketibdi.

Javobimda voqeaning Eronda ekanligiga, xat ivrit (yahudiylar so'zlashadigan til)dagi tarjimasi bilan kelganiga e'tiborini qaratib o'tmoqchiman. Rasmlari ham bor edi, joylay olmadim.


"Marvelous religion?

An 8 years old child was caught in a market in Iran for stealing bread.

In the name of Islam he is being punished, his arm will be crushed by a car. He will lose forever the possibility to use his arm again.

Is this a religion of peace and love?
Plead people to stop fighting in the name of religion. To stop doing such deeds, and then justifying them in the name of religion... No religion has ever justified such heneous crime... Pass it on... let the world know watz happening in the name of God and religion...

Regards,
Ratheesh"

[Shahnoz]

Man barcha religiyalardan nafratlanaman. В чём смысл?!! Люди убивают друг-друга, делают гадости, вешают, расстреливают, зачиняют войны... и ради чего?!! Ради того, чтобы доказать, что чья - либо религия более правильная... Я уже не говорю о войне иудеи-исламиты, даже ИСЛАМИТЫ не могут найти общий язык!!! Теперь они начали воевать: сунниты с шиитами!!!! Разве это не глупо?!!

Я сомневаюсь, что тот же Бог, за которого эти люди убивают стариков детей и женщин, этого хотел. Где, в какой книге написанно, что надо убивать людей за просто так, просто за то, что они не похожи на тебя?!! И ведь людям нравится, когда им промывают мозги, когда им впихивают в голову разные глупости во имя того, чего никто доказать не может!!! Разве это логично, что Бог в самом прямом смысле собирается "перебить" всё население земли?!! Если каждый начнёт рассуждать так: "А, он не моей религии, схожу-ка я перестреляю его семью...", то в скором времени никого не останется!!!

Да очнитесь же наконец, люди!!! Я не атеистка, но есть грань между просто верой и фанатизмом!!!

(и пусть меня теперь заклюют на этом форуме за то, что я вдруг "против" религии)

[DieSlow]

Man barcha religiyalardan nafratlanaman. В чём смысл?!! Люди убивают друг-друга, делают гадости, вешают, расстреливают, зачиняют войны... и ради чего?!! Ради того, чтобы доказать, что чья - либо религия более правильная... Я уже не говорю о войне иудеи-исламиты, даже ИСЛАМИТЫ не могут найти общий язык!!! Теперь они начали воевать: сунниты с шиитами!!!! Разве это не глупо?!!

Я сомневаюсь, что тот же Бог, за которого эти люди убивают стариков детей и женщин, этого хотел. Где, в какой книге написанно, что надо убивать людей за просто так, просто за то, что они не похожи на тебя?!! И ведь людям нравится, когда им промывают мозги, когда им впихивают в голову разные глупости во имя того, чего никто доказать не может!!! Разве это логично, что Бог в самом прямом смысле собирается "перебить" всё население земли?!! Если каждый начнёт рассуждать так: "А, он не моей религии, схожу-ка я перестреляю его семью...", то в скором времени никого не останется!!!

Да очнитесь же наконец, люди!!! Я не атеистка, но есть грань между просто верой и фанатизмом!!!

(и пусть меня теперь заклюют на этом форуме за то, что я вдруг "против" религии)

наказать
богатых - рублем;
уважаемых - лицом в дерьмо, т.е. позором;
негодяйев - физической расправой или полным уничтожением;
и т.д.

а, судьи кто?

[Shahnoz]

наказать
богатых - рублем;
уважаемых - лицом в дерьмо, т.е. позором;
негодяйев - физической расправой или полным уничтожением;
и т.д.

а, судьи кто?

Судя по цитированию, этот вопрос относился ко мне. Судьи видимо те, кто считают, что они на правильном пути. Такого допускать ни в каком случае НЕЛЬЗЯ!!! У этих религиозных фанатиков крышу сносит от того, что они чувствуют себя правильнее. И при этом, они "обрубают" (как в пересносном, так и в прямом смысле) человеку то, что выходит за рамки их ограниченного мировоззрения... Печально... мир катится ко всем чертям, и никого это не колышет. Наоборот, люди стремяться сами поверить во что-то, для того, что бы "спрятаться" от жестокой реальности, прикрывшись тонким слоем молитв и поклонений.

[DieSlow]

Судя по цитированию, этот вопрос относился ко мне. Судьи видимо те, кто считают, что они на правильном пути. Такого допускать ни в каком случае НЕЛЬЗЯ!!! У этих религиозных фанатиков крышу сносит от того, что они чувствуют себя правильнее. И при этом, они "обрубают" (как в пересносном, так и в прямом смысле) человеку то, что выходит за рамки их ограниченного мировоззрения... Печально... мир катится ко всем чертям, и никого это не колышет. Наоборот, люди стремяться сами поверить во что-то, для того, что бы "спрятаться" от жестокой реальности, прикрывшись тонким слоем молитв и поклонений.

Ну, вопрос, наверное, больше не к вам, а больше - риторический!

По-моему, весь мир охватили фанатики, а людьми управляют всякие джины (но это чисто художественная точка зрения) и их просто называют джинды. И всех несет из крайностей в крайность.
Наверное, те самые, кто занимается классификацией и другими похожими действиями, тем и фанатизм этот и выгоден.

По моему. некие элементы глобализации несут собой элементы фанатизма в чистейшем виде!

[Abu Hurayra]

Shu nom bilan atalgan quyidagi matnni Universitetda magistrlikka o'qiydigan bir Pastor elektron pochta orqali yuborib, mendan shu to'g'rimi deb so'rabdi. Hali javobini yozmadim, noto'g'ri, deb yozmoqchiman. Jazo zamonaviy bo'lib ketibdi.

Javobimda voqeaning Eronda ekanligiga, xat ivrit (yahudiylar so'zlashadigan til)dagi tarjimasi bilan kelganiga e'tiborini qaratib o'tmoqchiman. Rasmlari ham bor edi, joylay olmadim.


"Marvelous religion?

An 8 years old child was caught in a market in Iran for stealing bread.

In the name of Islam he is being punished, his arm will be crushed by a car. He will lose forever the possibility to use his arm again.

Is this a religion of peace and love?
Plead people to stop fighting in the name of religion. To stop doing such deeds, and then justifying them in the name of religion... No religion has ever justified such heneous crime... Pass it on... let the world know watz happening in the name of God and religion...

Regards,
Ratheesh" Mo'jiza,
Nowadays Enemies of Islam trying do do their best in accusing Islam by showing it in worse pictures. But their lie do not dury long.
I know this picture as well. It is a "show" to attrack people
There are many small childs in Uzbekistan as well who do such kind of tricks in Weddings. Similar tricks are lying on a carpet full of broken glasses, troiwing a knife to the stomach of boy (nothin happens) etc.
Thus doing this kind of tricks is not according to Islam, while there is a risk exposure to the child (or to the one who does this kind of things).
Those Enemies of Islam used this picture in their antiIslamic propaganda
claiming that this was a Islamic way of the punnishment.

Look to the picture a man with a mike commenting on how a "brave" child doing this trick. You can not find any Imam that that this "fatwa".
According to Islam Any child under 13 is not punished.
Even if he would be punished,the ruling of this crime is not like this.
The author did not show aftermath, wether his hand was ok.
The author of this picture does not tel exact city the name of the boy, the name of Imam who gave this kind of "Fatwa"
This is clear cheap antiIslamic propaganda.
if you search on google you will find only this picture, without facts and lies about it, Mostly in jews sites.
Here is the quote from one of the site:

This is Islam: Photo, The Islamic republic of Iran and abuse of human rights
[Kurd Net does not take credit for and is not responsible for the content of news information on this page

SO PEOPLE IN ISLAM; DO NOT GET FOOLED WITH THIS KIND OF CHEAP ANTIISLAMIC PROPAGANDA; FOLLOW THE VERSE 49:6
"O Believers, if an unrighteous person(fasiq) comes to you with information, you should verify it or else you might inflict harm on a people in ignorance and then end up regretting what you have done."

Thus those information is brought by not even by fasiqs, but nonbelievers, kafirs and by the enemies of Islam.

shahnoz: calm down, do not hurry to make decisions based on cheap antiislamic propaganda ;)

[Shahnoz]

shahnoz: calm down, do not hurry to make decisions based on cheap antiislamic propaganda ;)

Ит из жаст май хамбсл апинион, насинг персонал.:)

[DieSlow]

Ит из жаст май хамбсл апинион, насинг персонал.:)

понятно-гой :) (каз)!

[Asadbek]

...

Look to the picture a man with a mike commenting on how a "brave" child doing this trick. You can not find any Imam that that this "fatwa".

Men ham shuni aytaman. Nega rasmlarning davomi yo'q?.. Har qalay, rasm tushirayotgan odam esidan ketib qolmagandir...

Bu yerda hech qanaqa jazolash yo'q, qanaqadir cirk tomoshasi xolos...

[Royal]

Agar bu voqea yani Bolani non ogirlagani uchun jazolanishi voqeasi rostdan roy bergan bolsa, bunga islom dinini hech qandoq aloqasi yoq..

Chunki johillar hamma yerda bor...bu bir johilni chiqargan fatvosidan boshqa narsayamas.

Islo dinida hech qachon non ogirlagan yosh bolani (agarda birinchi marta ogirlashi bolsa) shundoq jazolanishi kerak deyilmagan va Saudi Arabiyada ham birinchi marta ogirlik yani qorni ochligi uchun ogirlik qilgan insonga bundoq jazo qollanilmiydi...

Olloh yanada bilguvchidir...

Bilip bilmay qilgan gunohlarimizni Olloh kechirib oz panohida asrasin..

[Mo'jiza]

Mo'jiza,
Nowadays Enemies of Islam trying do do their best in accusing Islam by showing it in worse pictures. But their lie do not dury long.
I know this picture as well. It is a "show" to attrack people
There are many small childs in Uzbekistan as well who do such kind of tricks in Weddings. Similar tricks are lying on a carpet full of broken glasses, troiwing a knife to the stomach of boy (nothin happens) etc.
Thus doing this kind of tricks is not according to Islam, while there is a risk exposure to the child (or to the one who does this kind of things).
Those Enemies of Islam used this picture in their antiIslamic propaganda
claiming that this was a Islamic way of the punnishment.

Look to the picture a man with a mike commenting on how a "brave" child doing this trick. You can not find any Imam that that this "fatwa".
According to Islam Any child under 13 is not punished.
Even if he would be punished,the ruling of this crime is not like this.
The author did not show aftermath, wether his hand was ok.
The author of this picture does not tel exact city the name of the boy, the name of Imam who gave this kind of "Fatwa"
This is clear cheap antiIslamic propaganda.
if you search on google you will find only this picture, without facts and lies about it, Mostly in jews sites.
Here is the quote from one of the site:

SO PEOPLE IN ISLAM; DO NOT GET FOOLED WITH THIS KIND OF CHEAP ANTIISLAMIC PROPAGANDA; FOLLOW THE VERSE 49:6
"O Believers, if an unrighteous person(fasiq) comes to you with information, you should verify it or else you might inflict harm on a people in ignorance and then end up regretting what you have done."

Thus those information is brought by not even by fasiqs, but nonbelievers, kafirs and by the enemies of Islam.

shahnoz: calm down, do not hurry to make decisions based on cheap antiislamic propaganda ;)


Mazlum,
thank you very much for your answer. I believe it is the best answer I would ever send the Pastor as a reply.

I wonder why I did not pay attention to the absence of the continuation of the punishment process. I feel confident as there are facts to explain why this is not true.

I am not sure if I should ask you through PM or directly through the thread, would you allow me to include most part of your post in my reply to him? I will indicate that this is from a Muslim man who knows about this better.


Alloh rozi bo'lsin, katta rahmat!

[Aziz]

First of all the punishment of stealing in Islam is not crushing the hand by a car.
Secondly, there are several conditions that must be present in order to apply the punishment for a theft.
Not every thing stolen by any person leads to such a horrible punishment. Lets look at these consition "I will list what I remember from my studyings at school".
1- the thief must be an adult.
2- he must be sensible.
3- he must be free (not slave).
4- he must be choosing what he is doing "not forced to do it".
5- the stolen property must be in a secure place at the time it was stolen.
6- the value of the stolen propety must be above certain limit. "of course much more valuable than a loaf of bread".
.
.
.
.
and many other conditions...

We can see that there are many conditions are not satisfied in this case.
So we can conclude it is just another lie to blur the bright image of Islam.

[Alesser]

Mo'jiza,
Nowadays Enemies of Islam trying do do their best in accusing Islam by showing it in worse pictures. But their lie do not dury long.
I know this picture as well. It is a "show" to attrack people
There are many small childs in Uzbekistan as well who do such kind of tricks in Weddings. Similar tricks are lying on a carpet full of broken glasses, troiwing a knife to the stomach of boy (nothin happens) etc.
Thus doing this kind of tricks is not according to Islam, while there is a risk exposure to the child (or to the one who does this kind of things).
Those Enemies of Islam used this picture in their antiIslamic propaganda
claiming that this was a Islamic way of the punnishment.

Look to the picture a man with a mike commenting on how a "brave" child doing this trick. You can not find any Imam that that this "fatwa".
According to Islam Any child under 13 is not punished.
Even if he would be punished,the ruling of this crime is not like this.
The author did not show aftermath, wether his hand was ok.
The author of this picture does not tel exact city the name of the boy, the name of Imam who gave this kind of "Fatwa"
This is clear cheap antiIslamic propaganda.
if you search on google you will find only this picture, without facts and lies about it, Mostly in jews sites.
Here is the quote from one of the site:

SO PEOPLE IN ISLAM; DO NOT GET FOOLED WITH THIS KIND OF CHEAP ANTIISLAMIC PROPAGANDA; FOLLOW THE VERSE 49:6
"O Believers, if an unrighteous person(fasiq) comes to you with information, you should verify it or else you might inflict harm on a people in ignorance and then end up regretting what you have done."

Thus those information is brought by not even by fasiqs, but nonbelievers, kafirs and by the enemies of Islam.

shahnoz: calm down, do not hurry to make decisions based on cheap antiislamic propaganda ;)

JazakAllah Khoyr!

Alloh rozi bulsin!

[Sayyoh]

Man barcha religiyalardan nafratlanaman. В чём смысл?!! Люди убивают друг-друга, делают гадости, вешают, расстреливают, зачиняют войны... и ради чего?!! Ради того, чтобы доказать, что чья - либо религия более правильная... Я уже не говорю о войне иудеи-исламиты, даже ИСЛАМИТЫ не могут найти общий язык!!! Теперь они начали воевать: сунниты с шиитами!!!! Разве это не глупо?!!

Я сомневаюсь, что тот же Бог, за которого эти люди убивают стариков детей и женщин, этого хотел. Где, в какой книге написанно, что надо убивать людей за просто так, просто за то, что они не похожи на тебя?!! И ведь людям нравится, когда им промывают мозги, когда им впихивают в голову разные глупости во имя того, чего никто доказать не может!!! Разве это логично, что Бог в самом прямом смысле собирается "перебить" всё население земли?!! Если каждый начнёт рассуждать так: "А, он не моей религии, схожу-ка я перестреляю его семью...", то в скором времени никого не останется!!!

Да очнитесь же наконец, люди!!! Я не атеистка, но есть грань между просто верой и фанатизмом!!!

(и пусть меня теперь заклюют на этом форуме за то, что я вдруг "против" религии) hahahahah :lool: arzon (tekin) e'tibor ishtiyoqida yonib bitibsizku, Shahnozoy! :lool:

[ДЖИГИТ]

Mana shunaqa bo'htonlarni o'qib, ko'p odamla dindan qaytib qoladi, ming afsus shunaqa arzon qalbaki narhga dinilani sotgan bo'sela, bo'htonlaga ishonib Allohga va u yuborgan kitobga ishonmaganlar yutqazuvchilardir, zaif insonlar. Ayniqsa qizlaga ta'alluqli, judayam o'zini o'zicha sovremenniy tutaman deb, shoshma shosharchilik qilib Hudo asrasin dinsiz bo'lib qolishidan.

Mo'jiza siz aqlli qizsizku, nahotki shunaqa bo'htonlaga ishonsangiz?!

[Alesser]

Mana shunaqa bo'htonlarni o'qib, ko'p odamla dindan qaytib qoladi, ming afsus shunaqa arzon qalbaki narhga dinilani sotgan bo'sela, bo'htonlaga ishonib Allohga va u yuborgan kitobga ishonmaganlar yutqazuvchilardir, zaif insonlar. Ayniqsa qizlaga ta'alluqli, judayam o'zini o'zicha sovremenniy tutaman deb, shoshma shosharchilik qilib Hudo asrasin dinsiz bo'lib qolishidan.

Mo'jiza siz aqlli qizsizku, nahotki shunaqa bo'htonlaga ishonsangiz?!

DJIGIT aka gaplaringizga qushilaman, lek azgina qushimcha qilmoqchi edim, Mo'jiza qiz bola emas, menimcha ugil bola:D...
off toproq bulgani uchun uzur albatta...

[Mo'jiza]

Mana shunaqa bo'htonlarni o'qib, ko'p odamla dindan qaytib qoladi, ming afsus shunaqa arzon qalbaki narhga dinilani sotgan bo'sela, bo'htonlaga ishonib Allohga va u yuborgan kitobga ishonmaganlar yutqazuvchilardir, zaif insonlar. Ayniqsa qizlaga ta'alluqli, judayam o'zini o'zicha sovremenniy tutaman deb, shoshma shosharchilik qilib Hudo asrasin dinsiz bo'lib qolishidan.

Mo'jiza siz aqlli qizsizku, nahotki shunaqa bo'htonlaga ishonsangiz?!

Uzoqdan boshlasammikan, yaqindanmi..

Eng avvalo, musulmon ekanligimga Allohga shukur qilaman. Allohdan bu yerga kelishim bo'yicha duo qilganimda uch narsani har doum Undan so'rayman: Bu yerga qanday iymon bilan kelgan bo'lsam, undan-da mustahkam iymon bilan qaytib ketay. Sohamdagi bilimimni oshirib ketay. Va albatta, oilam bilan omonlikda ko'rishay deb.

Men o'qiydigan universitet Xristian politexnik Universitet hisoblanadi. Xorijiy talabalarning asosiy qismi Teologiya bo'yicha o'qishga kelgan. Oramizda men va yana bir musulmon talaba bor. Kim qaysi dindaligi muhim emas, lekin ulardan Islom haqida ancha-muncha savollar eshitaman, o'z o'rnida ular ishonuvchi din haqida ham eshitaman, ham e-maildan yuborib turishadi.

Yuqoridagi ham shunday savol sifatidami yohud "Mana Islom" deb yuborilganmi, maqsadini bilmayman. Harqalay, Mazlum va Azizning javoblaridan foydalangan holda, javob yubormoqchiman.

Hech qachon adashib bunday yolg'onlarga aldanib qolishni istamayman, Allohning o'zi saqlasin. Alloh yol'gon gapirmaydi, pok, yagona, o'xshashi yo'q, abadiy bo'lgan Zotga Iymon keltirganman, shu iymonni saqlash uchun hamisha intilaman.

Bir narsa aytsam, kulishni ham yig'lashni ham bilmayman.
Birinchi kelganimda, cherkovga noiloj chiqardim. Cherkovda o'tirib, yig'lab o'tirardim. Ular ham yig'lashardi. Menga qarab, "Preaching"da aytganlarimiz ta'sir qilganidan yig'ladimikan, deb qarashardi. Qayerda, cherkovda o'tirib Allohdan qo'rqqanimdan, ko'nglimdan o'tganlardan yig'lardim.

Oxiri, istamay chiqishimni bilib, indamay qo'ya qolishdi. Bir kuni baribir, siqilgan paytingda chiqib turgin, deyishdi. Siqilgan paytimda meni eshituvchi Zot bor-ku.


DJIGIT, duo qiling, Alloh iymonimni mustahkam qilsin.

love_machine, mening qaysi postim o'gil bola degan taassurot bergan ekan, hayronman.

Alloh barchamizni Hidoyat yo'liga boshlasin.

[Abdug'ofur]

Koreya hozirda xristianlik missiyasi bo'yicha g'arbdan ham o'tib tushayotgan bir mamlakat. Siz, Mo'jiza, ularning qoq markazida, ayni o'chog'ida o'qirkansiz. Vaholanki, bu badniyatlar Toshkentning o'zida ham qanchalab o'zbek yoshlarini yo'ldan urib yotibdi.
Alloh hidoyat bergan insonni, albatta, hech kim bu yo'ldan qaytarolmaydi. Alloh adashtirgan kimsani hech kim hidoyat qilolmaydi.

Alloh iymoningiz nurini yanada ziyoda aylasin.

P.S. Quyidagi saytda missionerlar kirdikorlari juda yaxshi fosh etilgan: http://www.muslim-uz.narod.ru/

[Mo'jiza]

Men yuqoridagi matnga Mazlum va Azizning postlaridan foydalangan holda javob yuborgandim. Menga navbatdagi savol bilan murojaat qilindi. Pastordan so'ramasdan post qilayotganimdan hijolatdaman.

"The worst enmity is between Muslims and the Jews.
A national hero, Dr. Jose Rizal said,

"Religion should make men friends, not enemies."

It raises eyebrows that the place (the Arabs) of two major religions in the world today are the ones who do bloody wars. So when will Muslims and Jews ever learn the non violent stance of Jesus Christ?"

[lost]

Men yuqoridagi matnga Mazlum va Azizning postlaridan foydalangan holda javob yuborgandim. Menga navbatdagi savol bilan murojaat qilindi. Pastordan so'ramasdan post qilayotganimdan hijolatdaman.

"The worst enmity is between Muslims and the Jews.
A national hero, Dr. Jose Rizal said,

"Religion should make men friends, not enemies."

It raises eyebrows that the place (the Arabs) of two major religions in the world today are the ones who do bloody wars. So when will Muslims and Jews ever learn the non violent stance of Jesus Christ?"
A.A.
oddiygina qilib:
"why not buddhism (atheism, traism, braizm...)?" deb qo'ing, etib ortadi.

unaqangi xatlarni ignore qilgan ma'qul. Undan ko'ra o'zimizzi islomni yaxshilab o'rganib taqvoni kuchaytirish kerak. Ular bilan bahslashaman deb vaqtizzi ketkizmang, ilm o'rganing.

[Abdug'ofur]

Men yuqoridagi matnga Mazlum va Azizning postlaridan foydalangan holda javob yuborgandim. Menga navbatdagi savol bilan murojaat qilindi. Pastordan so'ramasdan post qilayotganimdan hijolatdaman.

"The worst enmity is between Muslims and the Jews.
A national hero, Dr. Jose Rizal said,

"Religion should make men friends, not enemies."

It raises eyebrows that the place (the Arabs) of two major religions in the world today are the ones who do bloody wars. So when will Muslims and Jews ever learn the non violent stance of Jesus Christ?"

Bilmagan narsalarini gapirishaveradi. Ular sizning javobingizga muhtoj ham emaslar. Faqat Islomni yomon ko'rsatish, xristianlikni propaganda qilish. Agar musulmonlar va yahudiylar orasidagi conflictni rostdan ham tushunmoqni istagan bo'lganida, savolni boshqacha qo'ygan bo'lardi. Savolidan ularning maqsadi ayon. Unga Islom tarixini, Muhammad (saw) hayotlarini o'rganing, deb javob yozing. Ularga tushuntiraman, deb kuyib-pishib o'tirmang. Haq allaqachon sobit bo'lgan, botil bilan haq allaqachon ajragan. Musulmon bunday paytlarda mag'rur bo'lishi kerak. Bizning vazifamiz ularni ishontirish emas, balki yetkazib qo'yish xolos. Islom ularning xayrixohligiga zor emas!

P.S. Cherkovga bormang, men musulmonman, men cherkovga bormayman, deb dangal ayting!

[Mo'jiza]

lost, Abdugafur,

Aytganingizni tushundim.
Haq gap aytindgiz.

Barchangizga katta rahmat!

[Shahnoz]

hahahahah :lool: arzon (tekin) e'tibor ishtiyoqida yonib bitibsizku, Shahnozoy! :lool:
Жжжуууда ям афсусдаман, лекин фикрииззи чунолмадим (ёки кесатдииз, ёки гапимга рози булдииз однозначно))), ishtiyoq деган сузни мана шу (http://www.fmc.uz/word.php) лугат хам танимас экан)))

[Zambrotta]

Жжжуууда ям афсусдаман, лекин фикрииззи чунолмадим (ёки кесатдииз, ёки гапимга рози булдииз однозначно))), ishtiyoq деган сузни мана шу (http://www.fmc.uz/word.php) лугат хам танимас экан)))
http://multilex.mail.ru/view_dict?lang=4.0ur&word=%D0%B8%D1%88%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%91%D0%BA&find=+%D0%9F%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%81%D 1%82%D0%B8+&selall=&selal2=&dict=UzbRus&dict2=RusUzb

mana sizga tarjima

[Shahnoz]

hahahahah :lool: arzon (tekin) e'tibor ishtiyoqida yonib bitibsizku, Shahnozoy! :lool:

Unda dahshat aqilli gap yozibsizu, Sayyohoy... ja bo'masa biron bir originalniy gap yozvorseyiz bo'lardi, o'ziizzi yerga urmasdan.

[Zambrotta]

Unda dahshat aqilli gap yozibsizu, Sayyohoy... ja bo'masa biron bir originalniy gap yozvorseyiz bo'lardi, o'ziizzi yerga urmasdan.
u Sayyohbek busala kere dip uyliman

[lost]

O'zbek tilini chuqur bilmaslik qachondan beri uyat ekan? Asab tolalarim siz o'ylaganiizdey ingichka emas, hurmatli kishi... O'zbek tilini mandan yaxshi bilishingiz hali originalniyligiiz bo'lsa bilmadim endi... "Hatto lug'atdan" deganim yo'q edi, aynan HALIGI lug'atdan deb aytgandim, agar bir oz e'tiborliroq bo'lganiizda ko'rarmidiiz...

Omad sizga.

PM degan narsala bor, mavzu doirasida gaplariz bo'masa nima keragi bor hamma joyga flood qilib? O'chirsalariz bo'lardi postlarizzi...


PS: Shaxsiyatga tegishdan yiroqman


Zambrotta, savolla bo'lsa marhamat yangi thread oching , a to ko'p joyni xalta threadlar bosib ketgan.
PS ni qaytadan o'qing... Omad sizga

[Zambrotta]

aqllila kupde forumda, nega moderatorla tayinlangan digan savolni uzilaga uzila berib kuriylachi qando javob olarkasila, moderatorlardam bor ko'z o'qigani, aql,fahm farosat bor fikrlagani, jaa endi moshxurdaga qatu bulurmalaringiz, jaaa aqlila oshib toshib borvotgan busa etila man silaga dunyo olimlarining hozir va kelajakdagi muammoliriga bog'lu savol beriy yechishga urinib kurila zora poydela tegib qolsa,...

savollar tayyor.

[Alouddin]

can we go back to the topic plz!: )

[MirzoBobur]

Assalomu Alaykum Forumdoshlar...

Men ham Katolik xristian Unversiteti (www.xavier.edu (http://www.xavier.edu) )da o'qiyman

To'g'ri bularni anchasida Islom deganda terorchini yoki qattiq qo'l kishini tushunish bor, biroz islomdan savollar berib sizni chalg'itmoqchi bo'ladigan vaqtlari ko'p bo'ladi.

Meni javobim har doim oz'imni last nameimdan boshlanim, Iso Alayhisalomni erga qaytib kelishiga biz musulmonlarni ishonishimiz bilan yakunlanadi...YAni meni last nameim Isoyev, shuni ularga tushtirishimdan ular biz Jesusni qanchalik hurmat qilishimiz tushunadi, lekin bechoralarni ichi to'la chalg'ituvchi savollar, beray desa men bosh og'riq, bermaydesa o'zini o'zi qiynaydi..., men ertasiga aksida Uzbek(Andijon) Do'ppsi yoki bugun juma deb oq do'ppi kiyib kelib Catholic Unviversitetni o'rtasida ularni jig'iga tegaman, gapirsa last nameim juses deyman, o'zim ham ularga raxmim kelib keradi...

Bir narsani aytsam yotib kulasiz...
bir kuni bir o'qituvchimiz, mendan seni kecha chorchda ko'rdim deb qoldi, bundan 3-4 yil burun bir Senigallik qiz chorchga bilmasdan kitib qolgan( chinki chorch shundoqgina shuttlebus stopni yonida etibor bermagan odam kirib ketishi mumkin...) edi kegin esa u erni chorch ekanligini bilib bizni yonimizdan qochib, tashqariga tamon yugurdi, toxtagin qayoqqa desak ham yo'q men kirmayman deb yig'alab oldi deydi domlam.
Men esa paq etib "ha kecha men sizni ucharatganimda hojatxonaga chiqib ketayotgan edim " deb man men axmoq, buni eshitib turgan Saudiyalik kursdoshim GAsam qotib qoldi, o'zim ham shunday qizardimki so'ramang... lekin aslida ham shunday bo'luvdi, chorch shunday qurilganki zamonaviy, etib bermasangiz chirchligini bilmaysiz, uni ustiga shunday hotda ko'zingizga chorch porch ko'rinim o'tibdimi...qisqasi javobimdan o'zim ham uyaldim, gapim oxirida biz musulmonlar hamma dinni hurmat qilamiz deb qo'ydim axiri...


hali eslasam kulaman

Ollohga haqiqiy mehir qo'ygan musulmon qaerda bo'lmasin hech qachon iymonini yo'qotmaydi.
Hattoki o'sha Injilda ham Payg'ambarimiz Muhammad S.A.V haqida u, kishi kelmaslaridan oldin yo'zilgan lekin bechoralar, shu zo'r berib dinini saqlashga harakat qiladi, mayli bemalol...

Olloh yagonadir, Muhammad esa uni elchisidir

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