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Alouddin
09-09-2006, 06:31 AM
Some of you spoke to e about how we Muslims treat women, I wish they can bring us Ayahs from the Qur’aan to prove how this is what Islam preach about women. However, meanwhile, I will bring you how women are preached in non Muslims books, please look at the following. We will answer many questions, especially those who attack Islam with ignorance.We will see how Islam looks at women, we will see how Allah asks us to treat our mothers, wives, sisters, and our daughters.Exodus 19:15, which says: Moses Sanctified the people, and they washed their closes, in preparation to see the LORD. Then it says: be ready against the third day; come not at your wives (or make not love with them). The question is: why if anyone needs to meet the LORD, should not come close to his wife, and what is so miserable with women?Exodus 21:7 says: and if a man sells his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the men servants, which means only menservants can be set free, and free women who become maidservant should stay in slavery all of their lives (read 21:4 to get a good look), Continue reading through 11, and see how women are just a commodity.
Exodus 22:18 says: though shall not suffer a witch to live, how about a warlock, this is not the same; why?Leviticus 12:1 says: if a woman have conceived a man child, then she shall be unclean for seven days. She shall stay unclean for thirty three days, and shall touch no hallowed because she stays unclean. But if she had a maid child (not a girl), then this will make her unclean for two weeks, and stay unclean for 66 days. This is the difference between boys and girls, girls cause double unclean time, why?Leviticus 15:19 speak about women during their period time, and how they should be set apart from everyone else, and all who touch them during this time become unclean, imagine, just touching women become unclean. Everything she lieth upon should be unclean, everything she sitteth become unclean, even if anyone touches her bed become unclean, and so on. What the hell is wrong with this picture, what their God thinks becomes with women in their period time, and how miserable is this in all measures.Are women during their blood, some kind of a disease, some kind of a plague?Leviticus 21:9 says: any daughter of a priest profane herself by playing the whore, she should be burned with fire. Imagine, burn the whore?If we apply the rules of your God dear Christians, what kind of women population will remain in your household of Christendom, or will there be any women left?
Leviticus 21:13 speaks how a priest should only take a virgin for a wife, no divorced, harlot, for a wife. Then why this same God ordered Hosea to marry a prostitute, and breed evil seeds (check the book of Hosea)?Dear Jews and Christians who sacred those words saying they are from God, why a priest should not take but a Virgin, Divorced women do not deserve Holy men of your God?Numbers 12:14; and the LORD said unto Moses, if her father had but spit in her face, should she not be ashamed for seven days.Deuteronomy 21:10 says: when thou goest to war against thy enemy, and the LORD has delivered them to thy hands; and thou has taken them captive. Seest among the captive a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her for a wife; then thou shall shave her head and pare her nails. O LORD how horrible are those teachings form the Judeo-Christian books, how miserable is the way they treat women, yet they come with stupid rudeness attacking Islam, why?If this God is here today, we would see how they will persecute him in Court of Law, but since he is a Jew, maybe not.Deuteronomy 22:13 speaks how if a man married a woman and he hated her for any reason, he accused her of not being a virgin, how her parents should take the sign of her virginity to the leaders of the city during their meeting to prove her virginity. I am speechless against this misery, how disgraceful this is for any woman.I wish to ask any lady reading this, would you like to teach your children, if your boy suddenly finds a dislike to his wife, to accuse her of committing Adultery? This book really gives people ideas, doesn’t it?
Verse 22:20 says: if the girl was not a virgin, she should be taken to the door of her father, and everyone should stone her to death. If this is applied today, how many of your women should be left to live? Deuteronomy 24:1 says: if a man has taken a wife, then find no favor in his eyes, because he found uncleanness in her (or hated her for any reason), then let him write her a bill of divorcement, give it to her in her hand, and send her out of his house.Just any reason the man may have, could throw the woman out as he throws Garbage. Some of us can go to the book of Geneses to see how God created the woman to be the helper to the man, and not vise versa.Deuteronomy 25:11 says: if two men were fighting, the wife of one came and caught the other man by the balls (Genitals), then you should cut off her hand. Some brought me how some stupid Muslims were cutting the hand of a child, while Qur’aan never said hurt children, looks like cutting the hand is found in your book, how about that?Again we see this book giving women ideas, how to act in case this happens, just Grab the other man where it hurts, how sad to say this is from God.Judges 4:18 shows how Jewish women are traitors, miserable cold murderers, this woman said to Sisera: come in my lord, and have no fear. When the man slept, she brought a nail and a hammer, and smote the man’s head until she killed him. Believe me, you need no more than this God to learn how to treat women and men around you, Ideas in bulk measure.Imagine teaching: bringing a nail, and a hammer, going through the skull of this man shooting in until she reaches the brain, and how all this killing is done in cold blood like this.
Judges 9:53 says: and a certain woman cast a stone upon him and all to take his skull. Then he called hastily unto a young man and asked him: please kill me, so that they will not say he died by a woman. It looks like dying by a woman’s hand is a big issue here, full with disgrace, what is wrong of dying by a woman’s hand, I would like women who attack Islam to answer this.Read Judges 19 for yourselves, it speaks of a man from the Levites and his wife passing by one of the Israeli tribes from Benjamin, and how one of the people of this place took this man and his wife as guests. At night, all the men in this place came asking this man to give them this Levite to mate with him (Imagine), but they were given the woman till she died from mating. This Levite took his dead woman to his house, took a knife and cut his wife’s body and the bones into 12 pieces, then he left it in all the land of Israel telling his men who did this to ask the Israelis, have you ever seen anything like this since Israelis left Egypt?

Alouddin
09-09-2006, 06:31 AM
I Samuel 4:20, which says: and about the time of her death, a woman standing by her told her; fear not; for thou hast borne a baby boy. Why should women fear from giving birth to baby girls, or daughters, and why they should not have fear for giving birth to boys? Looks like baby girls are bad news for Jewish parent, as it was in Pagan Arabia before Islam came to stop.
The book of I Kings 1:2 says: wherefore his servants said unto him; let us bring for my lord the king a young virgin, and let her cherish him, and let her lie in thy bosom, that my lord the king may get heat. Women according to Jews serve as some kind of heaters, and should lie at the man’s bossom, and this is a very cheep picture of women in the book of those who believe in this book.Isaiah 3:12 which says about the mess at Jerusalem, God says: my people being dealt with injustice by little children, and being ruled by women. Looks like God does not like women to rule over the people, and here God is upset with the mess at Jerusalem that led women to rule over his people as he says.Another sad picture about women is found in the book of Ruth chapter three shows how Ruth mother in Law teaching Ruth to go where this man Boez is sleeping, to uncover his body and lie on top of him, and he will tell you what to do next. This is the teaching of the Jewish-Christian book, imagine teaching this to their daughters, and their children, how wonderful are the ideas given to the young generations.Mathew 5:32 says: who divorce his wife pushes her to commit adultery. Imagine, they are so sure how any woman is divorced will go the evil that God hates, and making forbidden sex, is that reasonable?
They do preach against divorce by saying: who God made one let no man separate. People have no freedom of choice in this matter, if one made a stupid choice in marriage they are stuck. Divorce used to relieve men and women from a nightmare of a mistake, how many of us made the wrong choice in choosing their partners and after marriage discovered how it is impossible to continue living together?The verses continue until it says: if a man marries a divorced woman he commits Adultery, wow, why? Looks like Divorced women have no right to live a second marriage, or have a family, is this how God shows his love for Divorced women?I Corinthians 14:34 says: women should keep quiet in churches, and they are not allowed to speak, and should subdued themselves as the Law says. If they wish to learn something, they should ask their husbands at home, because it is shameful for women to speak in Churches. Men have the right to speak, women should shut up, equality at its best. ICorinthians 11 speaks about how women should cover their heads, or else should shave their heads with shame, then why they are unhappy with Muslim women who cover their heads too? Verse 11:3 says how the head of every woman is the man, yet they attack Islam based on this same issue, is not this weird behavior on their part?
Now, dear who attack Islam yet have faith in this book, show us where in Qur’aan anything remotely close to your teaching, in Qur’aan we have equality that the West may dream of, and will never have. Allah through the book speak to women and men as equal, and when Allah prefer the man, He says: by one step, not like Christian book that says how woe should worship the man, and the man should keep her clean for himself. A picture of women from the same book those who attack Islam believe in, I wonder?

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Maroon
09-09-2006, 09:12 PM
A lot of Christians, Jews and enough Muslims don't follow the the exact teachings of their books. So what is the point of bringing up all this? I would not say it is strong arguement because every case is individual and to bring up verses from the Bible to argue that women are treated worse is rather pointless because half of the Western Hemisphere don't base their life on the bible anymore.

Earth.uz
09-10-2006, 10:26 AM
A lot of Christians, Jews and enough Muslims don't follow the the exact teachings of their books. So what is the point of bringing up all this? I would not say it is strong arguement because every case is individual and to bring up verses from the Bible to argue that women are treated worse is rather pointless because half of the Western Hemisphere don't base their life on the bible anymore.

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Earth.uz
09-10-2006, 10:31 AM
in fact, women were treated badly in oriental culture. we have accustomed the religion to our culture.

attitude to women has nothing to do with beliefs. people all the time "enrich" their religion with culural values. that is all.

Gareeb
09-10-2006, 12:18 PM
Nomusulmonlar uchun ayol shunchaki bir shahwatni qodnirish uchun foydalaniladigan predmet desa ham bo'ladi afsuski..