Merry cristmas and happy new year or happy holidays!

[zanjir]

Tri sate areada shu darajaga yettiki muqim aholi kopchiligi christian bolishiga qaramasdan ommaviy televideniye yoki radiolada merry christmas ni orniga happy holidays deyilayapti(USA da).
masalan menga marry christmas deyishsa man bemalol happy holadys deyman!
a siz lekin jews ga etsez jahli chiqadi. greeting cardni bilmasdan yuvorsez sizga ozini yahudiyligi bildirish uchun noroziligini birinchi imkoniyatta korsatib qoyadi.

men uchun hecham farqi yoq qanaqa bayram bolishidan yoki kimning bayrami bolishidan qatiy nazar hicham hafa bomasdan odamlar hursandchiligiga qoshilaman...
siz?

[Allohqul]

Aslida bunaqa bayram bilan tabriklash joiz emas, hursandchiligiga sherik bo'lish u yoqda tursin.
Lekin grocerylarga borganda sotuvchi siz aytganday "happy holiday" deydi, "OK, thanks" deb o'tib ketishga majburmiz.

[zanjir]

Aslida bunaqa bayram bilan tabriklash joiz emas, hursandchiligiga sherik bo'lish u yoqda tursin.
Lekin grocerylarga borganda sotuvchi siz aytganday "happy holiday" deydi, "OK, thanks" deb o'tib ketishga majburmiz.

masalaga boshqa tomondan yondashing,
siz uni yurtidasiz demakki uni qadriyatlarini hurmat qilishingiz kerak!
christmas uni bayrami, sizga etmadim marry christmas deng deb, happy holidays!
kegin shahsan men odamlar bilan ishlaganim uchun hohlaymanmi hohlamaymanmi bu temada gaplashaman, kimdur mani togri tushunadi kimdur esa yoq.
faqat convenient store da emas mani muloqotim....

[Akhee-Abdullah]

masalaga boshqa tomondan yondashing,
siz uni yurtidasiz demakki uni qadriyatlarini hurmat qilishingiz kerak!
christmas uni bayrami, sizga etmadim marry christmas deng deb, happy holidays!
kegin shahsan men odamlar bilan ishlaganim uchun hohlaymanmi hohlamaymanmi bu temada gaplashaman, kimdur mani togri tushunadi kimdur esa yoq.
faqat convenient store da emas mani muloqotim....

Assalam alaikum wa rahmatullah.

Brodar - hademay busaghadan, Eid ul Adho kirib keladi...siz bulsa...butta "Merry Christmas and happy new year" deb otiribsiz : )

Ozimizzani muborak ayyomlarimizni kim nishonlaydi agar hammamiz, narigi tomonga otib ketsak...bilasiz bizlarda Eid kunlari qabristonlarga chiqilib yighi sigh qilinadida..kofirlarri ayyomida oyin kulgi qilinadi...

Hamma narsa chappa chasigade..Ozbeklarda...yashavorey..devorasan kishi...Endi Ozbekistonda...biron bir Xristian mani Eid ul Fitr yoki Eid ul Adho bilan tabrik etmagan...mana...Gharbda ham bu narsani kuzatmadim...nega endi men ularri ayyomi bilan qutlashim kk? Umuman dunyoviy ma'noda etganda ham...diniy ma'noda...birozdan keyin soz ochaman?

Nega endi Muslimonni ayyomida ularri qutlash yoki ularga dam olish kuni berish kuzatilmaydi?! Mantiqsizlikka duch kelmayapmizmi? Bir oylab kuring Zanjirboy!!

Qolganlarga-

Dear Muslim Brothers and Sisters, Assalam alaikum and May Allah preserve you upon the path traversed by the great Muslim ancestors of ours.

Please read this carefully before saying anything about Christmans or congratulating the Kuffar for their Idol Worship!!! With what mind and Iyman can a Muslim congratulate a Kafir for committing shirk and deserving Hell fire? Yet alone partaking in the acts of Shirk himself/herself? Unless s/he is ignorant of this. I ask Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala to guide us all to the straight path of those who neither Earned The Anger of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala nor Went Astray from the Straight Path designated by the Lord of Jesus (alayhissalati wassalam) , Muhammad (alayhissalati wassalam) and all other Messengers/Prophets.

Ameen.

Greeting the kuffaar on Christmas and other religious holidays of theirs is haraam, by consensus of the Ulema of Ahlis-Sunnah Wal-Jamaah, as Ibn al-Qayyim, may Allaah have mercy on him, said in Ahkaam Ahl al-Dhimmah:

"Congratulating the kuffaar on the rituals that belong only to them is haraam by consensus, as is congratulating them on their festivals and fasts by saying ‘A happy festival to you’ or ‘May you enjoy your festival,’ and so on. If the one who says this has been saved from kufr, it is still forbidden. It is like congratulating someone for prostrating to the cross, or even worse than that. It is as great a sin as congratulating someone for drinking wine, or murdering someone, or having illicit sexual relations, and so on. Many of those who have no respect for their religion fall into this error; they do not realize the offensiveness of their actions. Whoever congratulates a person for his disobedience or bid’ah or kufr exposes himself to the wrath and anger of Allaah."

Congratulating the kuffaar on their religious festivals is haraam to the extent described by Ibn al-Qayyim because it implies that one accepts or approves of their rituals of kufr, even if one would not accept those things for oneself. But the Muslim should not aceept the rituals of kufr or congratulate anyone else for them, because Allaah does not accept any of that at all, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

"If you disbelieve, then verily, Allaah is not in need of you, He likes not disbelief for His slaves. And if you are grateful (by being believers), He is pleased therewith for you. . ."[al-Zumar 39:7]

". . . This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islaam as your religion . . ." [al-Maa’idah 5:3]

So congratulating them is forbidden, whether they are one’s colleagues at work or otherwise.

If they greet us on the occasion of their festivals, we should not respond, because these are not our festivals, and because they are not festivals which are acceptable to Allaah. These festivals are innovations in their religions, and even those which may have been prescribed formerly have been abrogated by the religion of Islaam, with which Allaah sent Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to the whole of mankind. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

"Whoever seeks a religion other than Islaam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers." [Aal ‘Imraan 3:85]

It is haraam for a Muslim to accept invitations on such occasions, because this is worse than congratulating them as it implies taking part in their celebrations.

Similarly, Muslims are forbidden to imitate the kuffaar by having parties on such occasions, or exchanging gifts, or giving out sweets or food, etc., because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:

"Whoever imitates a people is one of them."

Shaykh al-Islaam Ibn Taymiyah said in his book Iqtidaa’ al-siraat al-mustaqeem mukhaalifat ashaab al-jaheem:

"Imitating them in some of their festivals implies that one is pleased with their false beliefs and practices, and gives them the hope that they may have the opportunity to humiliate and mislead the weak."

Whoever does anything of this sort is a sinner, whether he does it out of politeness or to be friendly, or because he is too shy to refuse, or for whatever other reason, because this is hypocrisy in Islaam, and because it makes the kuffaar feel proud of their religion.

Allaah is the One Whom we ask to make the Muslims feel proud of their religion, to help them adhere steadfastly to it, and to make them victorious over their enemies, for He is the Strong and Omnipotent.

Majmoo’ah Fataawa wa Rasaa’il al-Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, 3/369

[zanjir]

Assalam alaikum wa rahmatullah.

Brodar - hademay busaghadan, Eid ul Adho kirib keladi...siz bulsa...butta "Merry Christmas and happy new year" deb otiribsiz : )

Ozimizzani muborak ayyomlarimizni kim nishonlaydi agar hammamiz, narigi tomonga otib ketsak...bilasiz bizlarda Eid kunlari qabristonlarga chiqilib yighi sigh qilinadida..kofirlarri ayyomida oyin kulgi qilinadi...

Hamma narsa chappa chasigade..Ozbeklarda...yashavorey..devorasan kishi...Endi Ozbekistonda...biron bir Xristian mani Eid ul Fitr yoki Eid ul Adho bilan tabrik etmagan...mana...Gharbda ham bu narsani kuzatmadim...nega endi men ularri ayyomi bilan qutlashim kk? Umuman dunyoviy ma'noda etganda ham...diniy ma'noda...birozdan keyin soz ochaman?

Nega endi Muslimonni ayyomida ularri qutlash yoki ularga dam olish kuni berish kuzatilmaydi?! Mantiqsizlikka duch kelmayapmizmi? Bir oylab kuring Zanjirboy!!
other Messengers/Prophets.

Ameen.
aleykum salom!
man sizi fikrlarizi qoralamoqchi emasman yoki siz notogri gapirdiz ham demayman.
sizdan ugina bizdan bugina, biz ularni yurtida yashayotganimiz uchun majburmiz(business, kundalik ehtiyoj...etc, yuzasidan).
musilmon bayramini qutlashadimi yoqmi bu ularga havola, chunki biz ularni yurtida yashayabmiz, holasa happy eid deyishadi holashmasa yoq.
lekin qachon unaqa deyishadi qachonki siz ularnikiga ijobiy yondoshsez.
siz ularga ornak boling balkim ular shu sabab islomga kirishar, a labbay nima dediz?
Americada aholini qariyib 60% koprogi christioan bosa kere, lekin shunday bolsa ham yevreylarni ta'siri kuchli bolgani uchun dam olishadi ualr ham bayramida.
gap dam olishda ham emas, gap yevreylarning tasiri shunchalikka bordiki ommaviiy TV da yoki radiolada ham olib boruvchila happy holidays deyishayabdi, bu musilmonlarni tasiridan emas yevreylarni tasiridan.

[Amiri Turkiston]

man hozir O'zbeskitonda bulsam ham qandaydir no-musulmoncha bayramlarda man boshqa din va millat vakillarini ularning bayrami bilan tabriklab qo'yaman

mani musulmon bulmagan do'stlarim juda ko'p...ular ham bizani bayramlarda telefon qilib "S HAYITOM TEBYA BRATAN" deb qoyishadi hotyabi
keyin yahshi tilaklarni bildirib qolishadi

nima bulganda ham Yahshi muomulaga YAHSHI muomula bilan javob qaytarish kerak

mayli sizni bayramingizda ular tabriklamasa siz ularni o'zingizni bayramingiz bilan tabriklang....shundan keyin keyingi safar sizning bayramingiz haqida ular eshitishsa sizni albatta tabriklab qoyishadi

agar odam farosatli bulsa...doim yahshilikka yahshilik bilan javob qaytaradi

[Fifi]

Menda misol uchun Happy Eid deb ertalab kelib tabriklab, sovg'a salomlar qoldirib ketishadi.
Bugun Eid dam ol, senga bugun dam olish kuni deb ham ishdan ozod etishadi.
Bayram qilishimga majburlashadi ham.

[Han]

g'ayri dinlarning diniy asosga suyanuvchi marosim marakalaridan uzoqroq bo'lishga har doim tirishdim...
urf-odat, rasmiy kunlar kabi bayramlarida iltifotan tabrikladim, payti kelganda...

lekin diniy kunlarida ba'zan shunday majburiy holatlarga duch keldimki, xatto bir oy avvaldan planlab qo'yardim. unday desa bunday deyman deb.
:) bunaqa vaziyatlarda ikki-uch ma'noli gaplardan aytish juda qo'l keladi...

[Akhee-Abdullah]

aleykum salom!
man sizi fikrlarizi qoralamoqchi emasman yoki siz notogri gapirdiz ham demayman.
sizdan ugina bizdan bugina, biz ularni yurtida yashayotganimiz uchun majburmiz(business, kundalik ehtiyoj...etc, yuzasidan).
musilmon bayramini qutlashadimi yoqmi bu ularga havola, chunki biz ularni yurtida yashayabmiz, holasa happy eid deyishadi holashmasa yoq.
lekin qachon unaqa deyishadi qachonki siz ularnikiga ijobiy yondoshsez.
siz ularga ornak boling balkim ular shu sabab islomga kirishar, a labbay nima dediz?
Americada aholini qariyib 60% koprogi christioan bosa kere, lekin shunday bolsa ham yevreylarni ta'siri kuchli bolgani uchun dam olishadi ualr ham bayramida.
gap dam olishda ham emas, gap yevreylarning tasiri shunchalikka bordiki ommaviiy TV da yoki radiolada ham olib boruvchila happy holidays deyishayabdi, bu musilmonlarni tasiridan emas yevreylarni tasiridan.

Assalom alaikum.

"La Ikraha fid diyni" deyisharmidi? Dinda majburlash youqku brodar...Ularga til yoghlamachilik qilmasak bizlarni otib yuborishmaydi. Allohdan kuproq qurqaylik. Allohni rozi qilishga tirishaylik, kopirlarning kunglini olishni emas.

Ularni eng katta masiyat gunoh Shirk amali bn qandoq qutlash mumkin? Opangni paloncha xaromlab ketibdi...shu bn sani tabriklayman deyishlik...Merry Christmasdan kura kamroq xatarliroq... : )

Salomat buling.

[zanjir]

Assalom alaikum.

"La Ikraha fid diyni" deyisharmidi? Dinda majburlash youqku brodar...Ularga til yoghlamachilik qilmasak bizlarni otib yuborishmaydi. Allohdan kuproq qurqaylik. Allohni rozi qilishga tirishaylik, kopirlarning kunglini olishni emas.

Ularni eng katta masiyat gunoh Shirk amali bn qandoq qutlash mumkin? Opangni paloncha xaromlab ketibdi...shu bn sani tabriklayman deyishlik...Merry Christmasdan kura kamroq xatarliroq... : )

Salomat buling.
man sizni nohaqsiz demadim taqsir:) business is business........
Usmoniylar davrida bazi shpionla kofirlar bilan billa otirib ichishga ham majbur bolishgan(man sizi iching demoqchi emasman).
bazida siyosat ham qilinadide(hato bolsa Alloh kechirar ahir u rahmdillarni rahmdiliku)...
milionla tikilgan christmas saleda man musilmonman deb savdo qimasdan otirmasez kere deb oiliman.

[SAMARKANDI!]

Manimcha zanjir birodarimizda sal tushumovchilik bolgan. Islomda bunaqa bayramlarni nishonlamedi va sherik ham bomedi nishonlashiga, tabriklash uyogda tursin uz musulmonlar birodarlarini bunaqa bayram bilan.

Biz gayri dinlarni dinniy fikirilarini hurmat qilmashimiz kerak, va qollamashimiz kerak hech qanaqa yol bilan. Qande qilib Merry christmas deyolasiz musulmon bolib turib ahir merrry christmasni tagida manosi bor, ularni tushunchasida bu tawba qildim hudoni tugulgan kuni bilan tabriklash, chunki Jesus ph ular uchun hudoni ogli yani yana bita hudo, astahfurullah tawba qildim. Boshqacha qilib etganda siz "happy birthday god" bayrami bilan tabrikleman deyapsiz. Bunga hech sporlashib otirish hojati yoq, tezda tawba qildim deb, bu fikirizdan qaytsez uzizga yahshi boladi. Bu erda bolsez siz majburmassiz ularni qiganini qilishga.

peace

[Aziz]

brothers and sisters, let him celebrate with the people he loves.
our Prophet said "on judgement day, you will be with the people you love.".

[zanjir]

brothers and sisters, let him celebrate with the people he loves.
our Prophet said "on judgement day, you will be with the people you love.".

I didnt say that(celebrate),
u guys need to understand one thing, I dont live like aziz in saudia, I live in christian based country..
and I do deal with christians every single day, if he/she says to me merry christmas, i say happy holidays,
u'r talking abt judgement, think and read first what i typed before.

[Aziz]

I apologize if I misunderstood you, but you posted this in "Din va Madniyat" which is related to religion. Moreover, this is a forum of a country which has a vast Muslim majority. You shouldn't have posted this.

[Karolina]

People can call Christmas whatever they want- but it is what it is. And nothing can change it. You can call a rose a tulip but it's still a rose. Merry Christmas!

And I do vividly remember when I lived In Uzbekistan, everybody used to say "Hayitingiz Muborak bo'sin..etc.." no matter where you came from, what nationality you are, what religion you practice ( majority is muslim population but there are still other ethnic groups living around).