Uzbek Christians

[Pathfinder]

Hello
I decided to write this letter as an answer to Reader’s genuine question of ‘why some of the uzbeks change their religion? I hope my opinion will be of some benefit to those who are open to accept it.
My understanding is that the discussion pertains primarily to the born again Uzbeks who were formerly Muslims or did not even adhere to any religion. Some of you said that Uzbeks convert because they don’t know their religion. That answer is true only partially, it is true in a general sense that it’s easier to convert someone, who doesn’t have a strong theological background, to any sort of a religion. In other words it is much easier to convert someone who is naпve and simple…but becoming a true devoted Christian, a worshiper of God, is not just about converting from one religion to another!
My dear friends, I do not intend to be ambiguous and hide my identity, I am a Christian, :) and it is a great joy to walk with the Lord, and know His love, and mercy, and grace upon me, His perfect plan in my life and the promise of eternal life. Yes, you may laugh at me and some people mock, and hate, and reject, but they that reject do so not just to reject me but Lord Jesus, for He himself foretold these things when saying that "the one who listens to you listens to Me, and the one who rejects you rejects Me; and he who rejects Me rejects the One who sent Me'' (Luke 10:16). If you reject the message of the cross or what Lord Jesus did on the cross for you, His crucifixion, you’re rejecting the God himself for God sent him to save you my friend. Come on you guys Lord Jesus poured his blood for you! Friends don’t be quick to turn away from the truth for “grace and truth were realized through Lord Jesus Christ” (John 1:17) and He is the only “way and the truth and the life” (John 14:6). If you want to know the true God you better get down on your knees and confess your sins and pray for His forgiveness and mercy on you instead of being sarcastic about others who repented! Dear Reader! The Lord is staying at the door of your heart and He’s knocking on it and He says “if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to Him” (Revelation 3:20). He wants your heart!!! He wants to save you from the Lake of Fire, believe me that’s not a fun place to be in! He wants to fellowship with you, He wants you to know Him, He wants your heart!!! Call upon Him, confess your sins with you mouth and believe in your heart that Lord Jesus died for your sins and was raised from the dead victoriously, acknowledge Him as your only Lord and Savior, and you shall be saved!!! (Romans 10:9) yet again Bible says “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved” (Romans 10:13). Those Uzbeks who came to know the deity of Lord Jesus are saved now, and are in such a great communion with God!!! They have been granted a gift of eternal life for free, now their names are in the book of life!!! Do you want your name to be written in the book of life? If yes, then get down on your knees now and repent and acknowledge him as the only true God and Savior! Friends, my life has been changed once and forever! :)
Again please remember what the book of Ephesians, chapter two (2), says about the purpose of our calling as Christians (hope there’s few amongst us), it says: “But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ…that in the ages to come he might show the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. For by grace are ye saved through faith…” (Ephesians 2:4). So that they that receive Lord Jesus Christ or become Christians do so not just and only because they were in some sort of a spiritual or religious vacuum, and had to fill it with some sort of a dogma, oh no. They became Christians or Christ-like men and women, according to his calling so that they are “no more strangers and foreigners but fellow citizens with the saints, and in the household of God” (Ephesians 2:19). In the household of God!!! It is a great privilege and yet it is free of charge!!! Those Uzbeks made a right choice in their lives the best investment!!! :)
My dear friend I would like to conclude my letter, I hope I was able to answer why some of the Uzbeks become Christians, and I would like to remind you again that God wants to have a fellowship with you. Do not consider it foolishness but remember John 3:16 that God so loved you that He sent His one and only Son so that you may get saved. Do not hide behind your national identity or religious background or do not say that you’re so intelligent that you can’t believe in God, but remember Lord knows your heart, he sees it right through, so come like a child, faithfully, and believe in Him!
Thanks!
Pathfinder

[Moron]

Hey dude,

it`s very good to have some believes then having no values at all.

I got just curious having heard about Jesus interesting things;

so is it right, that Jesus was homosexual? cause the way he spoke and what he looks like reminds ones from homosexuals, and what about funny stories about virgin Maria -; staying "virgin" after bearing a kid? I think it`s more correct explanation of others, that a guy who was father was 'holy spirit' or whatever,

it`s funny that people like to believe in things that they want to be real, having sex and staying virgin or being immortal, you know all these tales of kings, who will promice to come to save his followers - King Arthur, David, or any legendary figures, so if it meks people feel better let them believe in their fantasies.

anyway, I find christianity very naive and not interesting, serving any group - be it good or evel,

look at the history, it was christian fanatics who traded on people - slaves from Afrika, who actually destroyed local inhabitants of the new continent - America, who put jews and followers of other religions on fire, who burned scintists like Copernik. It was torture blessed by the holy church that took lives of young girls having red hair or weighing too light claimed for being satanic, people who were victims of enquisitions.

In this respect, I think moslems were less brutal, cause be it Balkan or other, people were at least allowed to stay in their own religions. But what happaened to Spain, when christians took it back from Maurs??? putting on a saw of all muslims, as well as jews, again with the blessing of holy church...

so, what I am gonna say is, itµs better to judge on your own, being free from any prejudies about holy jesus, mohammed or whatever or... stay in your believes, it was just what I wanted to say on this.

Cheers!

[Interested]

Hi Pathfinder!

I'm muslim in my heart.

I've got one question to you:

Why don't Christians beleive that Muhammed was last prophet?

I heard from Muslim people(who know Karan very well) that Jesus is going to come to earth in the future. And I beleive that Jesus was one of the prophets of Allah. (but I don't beleive that Jesus was the son of the god (in my opinion he was the prophet of Allah) as many christians bilieve.


Waiting for your opinion..

Interested.

[IIIEP]

To MORON,
can I ask you, how is this, 'on your own', opinion was formed?
my respects

[Pakhtakor]

To interested; if you want to learn why Christians refused to accept our prophet Muhammad as their prophet, study history of Catholic church, and its role in western societies throughout last 2000 years. Catholic church had enormous power in past; it was richer than kings and more powerful than emperors. My muslim brother, would like to give up such power and position? Of course, no.

[SUN6500]

"Pochyom opium dlya naroda ? "

-- Ostap Bender "Dvenadzat' Stul'ev"

DISCLAIMER: Disclaimer: No offense intended. Information provided for recreational purposes only, and should be read with a healthy dose of humor :)

[sm1]

sam durak! prosto vspomilos lol

[SUN6500]

"Mojet batyushka vi eshe Partiyniy ?"

LOL!

[SUN6500]

I sevodnya sidel i smotrel film "Operaziya bI i Drugie Priklyucheniya Shurika". Tak prikol'no prosto ujas. V odin moment ya prosto so stula chut' ne upal. Pomnish bil kadr, mol zaveduyushiy xozyastvennim otdelom prosit "toiku" kak bi inscenirovat' vzlom ? Mol govorit platit' budu 300 rubley. No oni "tam neeet, eto ne sjerezno." Nu zavxoz tam, "nu kakoye vashe predlojenie ?" Nikulin vstayot, shapkoy ba-bax ob pol i govorit, "330!" LOL!!! :)

[sm1]

Ponmyu, prikol bil, ved i inflyciyii togda ne bilo.

As for 12 stuliyev, davno ya ne chital ih, no daje seyichas v shtatah postoyanno povtoryu ludiyam:
"time that i have is money that i don't" (vremya kotoroye u menya est eto dengi kotorih u menya net) works all the time.

I voobshe proizvedenyie shedevr sovetskoyi literaturi, stolko raz perechitival.

I voobshe mi cheto ne po teme lol, yavno wrong discussion lol

[sm1]

hotya mojet eto pharaza iz filma bila ne ponyu uje

[budwiser]

"the one who listens to you listens to Me, and the one who rejects you rejects Me; and he who rejects Me rejects the ONE who sent Me'' (Luke 10:16).
Indeed very truely said, rejecting jeasus is rejecting HIM, the creator of the universe. BUT does it make jeasus as HIM? does it make Jeasus a Lord of the Universe? The interesting thing, God, b4 jeasus let us know about the events that are going to happen, such as the judgement day, the comeing of the prophet for jews, even in bible about the return of Jeasus, etc etc. But why the teaches of Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon etc etc are about THE ONE GOD, and NOT any trinnity? U oh christians claim that all the books talk about jeasus, but why none of the books talk about the SON of God? what do u think moses would say if u asked him, "does God have a child?" he would say, "qul, huwallahu ahad" God is ONE, dont u think so? ur above statement is very well said, and over emotional, but can u use it as FACT? as PROOF?
You said "God so loved you that He sent His one and only Son so that you may get saved. "
Do u know what i understood from that? that means that God HATED people before he sent Jeasus. Why he parished so many nations, destroyed the tribe of Noah? was it because he hated humans, and after that he just beloved them ad sent Jeasus right? answer me pathfinder, are all the prophets before jeasus going to hell? Jeasus died long after them, or did he (Jeasus) die for sins of the prophets as well? then why God didnt send Jeasus in stead of Adam, and let him die for EVERYONE'S sisns? i would be greatful if u answer this questions. The reality is that Jeasus is Son of the MAN, like he repeated several times in the bible.
Many thanks
wazzzzaaaaaaappppp

[hidden]

nu.hamma herse pulga bogliq.uler(hristiyanlar)hozir dunyoni qolide tutub turishipdi.biz ham muslumonlik nima ekanini bilmaymiz.faqat uzimizni muslim dep bilamiza xalos.uzgertirayotgan bolsaler u ulerni ishi.nimaga ishonish kerek uzleri bilishadi.biz nima qilishimiz kerek bosa ushani qilamiza.boshqalarni din uzgertirishi bizga xalaqit bermaydi.bir nimaga ishondingmi unde voz kechmagin.zotan hristiyan bolganlarning muslimonlikni bilishgan bolishlariga hech ham ishona olmayman.nima xato nima togri bu aqlimizga qolgan.aqilliler hisleri bilan harakat qilishmaydi.karoche uler yo pul uchun yoki hristiyanlar oldida past tushmaslik uchun dinini uzgertirishgan.ulerden hristiyan ham chiqmaydi.uler dinsi bop qolishadi.ok.omad.yana bilmadim.boshqa narsa uchun ham bolishi mumkin.ok omad.

[Freestyler@]

""the one who listens to you listens to Me, and the one who rejects you rejects Me; and he who rejects Me rejects the ONE who sent Me'' (Luke 10:16). "

- I can only laugh at this. How egocentric!!!
Eto ravnosil'no tomu, chtobi voobrazit' sebya bogom...

[ShumBOLA]

Dear Pathfinder,
...you sound like a good psychologist, but you first need to learn more about your own religion, Christianity. The concept of Trinity never mentions in the Bible, it's only your creation. I wonder what else you guys will come up with???

TRINITY: According to the Athanasian Creed:

"The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God, and yet there are not three Gods but one God."

In this Holy Trinity: "The three Persons are CO-EQUAL and CO-ETERNAL: all alike are UNCREATED and
OMNIPOTENT." (The Catholic Encyclopedia)

Thus the Trinity is considered to be: (One God in three Persons."

There is only one verse in the whole of Holy Scripture called the Bible which unequivocally supports this
Christian dogma, and that is:

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost; and these three are
one. " The first Epistle of John 5:7

Dr C.I, Scofield, D.D. backed by eight other D.D.'s in a footnote to this verse opine:

"IT IS GENERALLY AGREED THAT THIS VERSE HAS NO MANUSCRIPT AUTHORITY AND HAS BEEN
INSERTED."

The fundamentalist Christians still retain this fabrication whereas, in all the modern translations including the
Revised Standard Version (RSV) this pious fraud has been unceremoniously expunged, thus confirming this
Qur'anic refutation:

"They do blaspheme who say: God is one of three In a Trinity: for there is no God except one God. If they desist
not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them." Holy
Qur'an 5:76.

Thank God! The Christians are willy-nilly discovering pagan forgeries in their "word of God", but they are still
dragging their feet.

[umaus]

Way to go Shum :))

Wuazaaa bro :)

[Agnostik]

Yeah, yeah, I knew you would start this:
"Your religion is crap, nime is good..."