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Han
12-19-2006, 12:23 AM
Hurmatli do'stlar....

Nikohlanganlarimizni boshidan o'tgan, nikoh arafasidagilarni boshlariga tushgan va yoshroqlarni kutib turgan bir masala haqida gurunglashmaymizmi?

Ota-onalar ko'pincha qaysi davlat, viloyat, shahar, qishloq, mahalla, kvartal yoki mavzedan kelin-kuyov orzu qilishadi?
ko'pchilik o'z qarindoshlaridan yana ko'pchilik o'z yurtidan bo'lishini xohlashadi...
Boshqa boshqa shahar, diyor yo mintaqalardan bo'lgan ikki yoshning ahd-paymonini "tushunmaydi" kattalar... (?)
Ko'pchiligimiz buni ahammiyati yo'q deymiz, deganmiz vaqtida...

Mana endi ota-ona bo'lgandan keyin ish boshga tushdi deganlaridek, qani o'ynab yurgan farzandlarimizga qarab turib bir o'ylanib ko'raylik-chi....

Biz nima fikrdamiz?

PS: opsionlar post yozishga vaqt yo'qligida ishga yarasin deb shunchaki qo'yildi... unga unchalik e'tibor bermang... fikringizni izohlaringiz bilan kengroq yozganingiz ma'qul...

migrant
12-20-2006, 01:04 PM
Hurmatli do'stlar....

Nikohlanganlarimizni boshidan o'tgan, nikoh arafasidagilarni boshlariga tushgan va yoshroqlarni kutib turgan bir masala haqida gurunglashmaymizmi?

Ota-onalar ko'pincha qaysi davlat, viloyat, shahar, qishloq, mahalla, kvartal yoki mavzedan kelin-kuyov orzu qilishadi?
ko'pchilik o'z qarindoshlaridan yana ko'pchilik o'z yurtidan bo'lishini xohlashadi...
Boshqa boshqa shahar, diyor yo mintaqalardan bo'lgan ikki yoshning ahd-paymonini "tushunmaydi" kattalar... (?)
Ko'pchiligimiz buni ahammiyati yo'q deymiz, deganmiz vaqtida...

Mana endi ota-ona bo'lgandan keyin ish boshga tushdi deganlaridek, qani o'ynab yurgan farzandlarimizga qarab turib bir o'ylanib ko'raylik-chi....

Biz nima fikrdamiz?

PS: opsionlar post yozishga vaqt yo'qligida ishga yarasin deb shunchaki qo'yildi... unga unchalik e'tibor bermang... fikringizni izohlaringiz bilan kengroq yozganingiz ma'qul...


Mana shu gap rost oma :D

SHu paytgacha uje bir ikkita urtogimni kurdim ota onasi xoxlagan qizini oberishmadi uzoq ekan deb. Ota onaning roziligi esa madaniyatimizda eng muhimi.

Xullas perfect solution topish qiyin bunga.

Demir Kağan
12-20-2006, 01:11 PM
Turk/ic bolsin, otasi muhim emas.

Glance
12-23-2006, 12:18 PM
Stranno..nimagadur ovoz bervotganimda hamma musulmon bolishi eng muhimi deydi dip oylagandim... u disappointed me...

Iqbol
12-23-2006, 04:27 PM
Stranno..nimagadur ovoz bervotganimda hamma musulmon bolishi eng muhimi deydi dip oylagandim... u disappointed me...

being muslim is a default condition. It is pre-supposed. After that, it is normal to consider other criterias as weel if you have this possibility.

Glance
12-23-2006, 10:52 PM
When u r choosing an answer in the poll, that means you think this answer is superior to others, so the thing that made me sad and disappointed is that muslims think being muslim is less important...

Being muslim is the most important criteria while you are getting married. Unfortunately most of muslims don't think so, and that's why nowadays muslims are weaker than their enemies (if you this kind of person, what will your children be like?) , but as distinct from us jews think being jew is the most important thing!!

Demir Kağan
12-24-2006, 03:11 AM
Would you marry an Arab or Persian or English or American muslim? Then, what about the cultural differences?

Abu-Bakr
12-24-2006, 04:26 AM
Millatinig farqi yo'q men uchun, lekin Alloh sifatlaganidek shu sifatlar bilan
مُسْلِمَاتٍ مُّؤْمِنَاتٍ قَانِتَاتٍ تَائِبَاتٍ عَابِدَاتٍ سَائِحَاتٍ وَأَبْكَارًا

...who submit (their wills), who believe, who are devout, who turn to Allah in repentance, who worship (in humility), who travel (for Faith) and fast,- and virgins

Glance
12-24-2006, 08:11 AM
Would you marry an Arab or Persian or English or American muslim? Then, what about the cultural differences?

Again, the same thing if in the poll's the question was "a person is muslim what else do you think most important for getting married?", of course I would choose a person from my country.
But if there was a person from my country (even if he was muslim), and an another person for example arab but more religious (taqwa) i would choose arab!!

Glance
12-24-2006, 08:12 AM
Millatinig farqi yo'q men uchun, lekin Alloh sifatlaganidek shu sifatlar bilan
مُسْلِمَاتٍ مُّؤْمِنَاتٍ قَانِتَاتٍ تَائِبَاتٍ عَابِدَاتٍ سَائِحَاتٍ وَأَبْكَارًا

...who submit (their wills), who believe, who are devout, who turn to Allah in repentance, who worship (in humility), who travel (for Faith) and fast,- and virgins

:) :) :) :) :)

Glance
12-24-2006, 08:15 AM
Turk/ic bolsin, otasi muhim emas.

Turk birisine evlenen cok mutlu insanlari gordum ama.. :)

SmIlIk
12-25-2006, 12:28 PM
Again, the same thing if in the poll's the question was "a person is muslim what else do you think most important for getting married?", of course I would choose a person from my country.
But if there was a person from my country (even if he was muslim), and an another person for example arab but more religious (taqwa) i would choose arab!!

That's why you can chose two poll answers. For our parents the most important thing is for future husbands to be muslims. They say: the rest is up to you... You are the one to live with them and you are the one to decide if cultural differences are going to be a problem in the long run...

Demir Kağan
12-25-2006, 04:04 PM
Anyway, religion is something that I never mind. I am interested in the blood.

zula
01-03-2007, 11:10 PM
Manimcha pok vijdonli, insofli, ko'ngli toza olijanob inson bo'lsa , bo'lajak turmush o'rtog'ini va turmush o'rtog'i ham uni sevsa, qadrlasa, asosiysi hurmat qilsa, uning qaysi davlatu qaysi mintaqadan bo'lishining ahamiyati yo'q deb o'ylayman.

rosefire
01-03-2007, 11:17 PM
menimcha iymonli etiqotli, insofli, mehr-muhabbat sohibi i albatta o'z davlatidan bo'lgani yahshi. chunku hayotda nimalar bo'lmaydi deysiz agar mentalitet, va culture bir hil bo'lsa bir - birlarini tushunishlari oson bo'ladi

Samimiy
03-26-2007, 10:14 AM
Millatinig farqi yo'q men uchun, lekin Alloh sifatlaganidek shu sifatlar bilan
مُسْلِمَاتٍ مُّؤْمِنَاتٍ قَانِتَاتٍ تَائِبَاتٍ عَابِدَاتٍ سَائِحَاتٍ وَأَبْكَارًا

...who submit (their wills), who believe, who are devout, who turn to Allah in repentance, who worship (in humility), who travel (for Faith) and fast,- and virgins

A bu oyatniyam shartta uzingizga moslashtirib keltiribsiz-ku? :)

It may be, if he divorced you (all), that Allah will give him in exchange consorts better than you,- who submit (their wills), who believe, who are devout, who turn to Allah in repentance, who worship (in humility), who travel (for Faith) and fast,- previously married or virgins. (At Tahrim - 66:5)

NifTy-Nix
03-26-2007, 01:10 PM
Mo'mina yoki mo'min bo'lsa shuni o'zi kifoya, millati unchalik ahamiyat kasb etmaydi. Imon kuchli bo'lsa har qanday kulturniy-shmulturniy bar'erni oshib o'tsa bo'ladi.

infolife
03-26-2007, 02:50 PM
When u r choosing an answer in the poll, that means you think this answer is superior to others, so the thing that made me sad and disappointed is that muslims think being muslim is less important...

Being muslim is the most important criteria while you are getting married. Unfortunately most of muslims don't think so, and that's why nowadays muslims are weaker than their enemies (if you this kind of person, what will your children be like?) , but as distinct from us jews think being jew is the most important thing!!

Of course being a muslim and pietyin deen are the most important things. But after that you might want to consider other priorities:being from the same culture, country etc.

For example, say 2 muslims with the same level of taqwa come up to you and asked your hand in marriage. One is uzbek and the other is african, i think you would rather choose uzbek one.:)

Abu-Bakr
03-27-2007, 05:45 AM
A bu oyatniyam shartta uzingizga moslashtirib keltiribsiz-ku? :)

It may be, if he divorced you (all), that Allah will give him in exchange consorts better than you,- who submit (their wills), who believe, who are devout, who turn to Allah in repentance, who worship (in humility), who travel (for Faith) and fast,- previously married or virgins. (At Tahrim - 66:5)

He-He, ko'rib qoldizaa :)

shunichun yozmagan edim qaysi suradan ekanligini.

Kak raz post qigan paytimda yodlayotgan edim shu surani, biiir kepqoldi-de. Boshqa suralada bilmadim, shunaqa sifatlari ketma-ket kelganmi yo'qmi. Mishari Rashid shu joylarini jaa boshqacha o'qib qo'yallade, imenno shu joylarini
مُسْلِمَاتٍ مُّؤْمِنَاتٍ قَانِتَاتٍ تَائِبَاتٍ عَابِدَاتٍ سَائِحَاتٍ ثَيِّبَاتٍ وَأَبْكَاراً



PS: Robbana hablana min azwajina wa zurriyatina qurrota a'yuninw wa ja'alna lil muttaqina imama.

ma'nosi: Ey Rabbimiz, Bizlarga ko'zimizni quvontiradigan juft-halol va farzandlar bergin wa bizlarni muttaqiyn(taqwa qilguvchi)larga imom qilgin.
Sharhi: Mo'min kishi o'z oilasini islomda, iymonda ekanligini ko'rib ko'zi quvonadi. Har bir jamoa Qiyomatta o'z imomi(boshlig'i) bilan chaqiriladi. Shuning uchun har bir erkak kishi shu oila uchun javobgardir. U ayoli va farzandi uchun ham javobgar bo'ladi.
Alloh hammamizni taqwali ayol va taqwali farzandlarga imom qilsin. :amin:

Abu-Bakr
03-28-2007, 12:16 AM
For example, say 2 muslims with the same level of taqwa come up to you and asked your hand in marriage. One is uzbek and the other is african, i think you would rather choose uzbek one.:)

you can simply refuse both, and search/wait for other one.
Alloh o'zi yetkazadi, yuzi chiroylisiniyam, taqwosi chiroylisinyam.
26mln o'zbek aholisi bor-a, endi shuni ichida africandan taqwolirog'i bo'masa...