Hizb ut Tahrir...

[Javanmard]

What is everybodys opinion on this group that call themselves the Hizb ut tahrir...pls. do not argue.:)

Just give me your opinions, are you Pro or against this group and briefly tell me why......

I am trying to find out what young educated Uzbeks and Tajiks think about this group.....

thanks...

[optimist]

What is HIzbut Tahrir???

OPTIMIST ;p

[Moron]

>what young educated Uzbeks and Tajiks think about this group.....>

what about other nationalities, is the message only for Uzbeks and Tajiks??

I think 'Hizbi Tahrir' is an organisation kinda Khamas, Hezbollah etc, - the product of social problems (low education, poor life standards, no hope for future in minds of some groups of population, trying to find solution to all of their problems in religion) as well as reppressive policies resulting in extremistic opponents. It should not be excluded such groups can be supported by third countries to use them in their own interests.

[Freestyler@]

Agree with "Moron".

Politically radical and extremistic bunch of degenerates who use Islam as an effective shield to gain power and justify their shitty actions!

[budwiser]

The majority of the uzbeks have many wrong and contradicting information about hizbuttahrir. I disagree with too many aspects of HT, argue with them, and support the anti HT ideas, but i want them to be understood in right way. Hizbut tahrir is a group originated from the ikhvan al muslimin in Egypt, who went against the ideology of ikhvan. The founder of it is Taqiyiddin Nabihani. In uzbekistan HT is usually linked with wahhabis and taliban, while they have absolutely no links with them. The ideology of hizbuttahrir is the governmental system run by shariah (islamic law system) of course with the moderations in places to sute them with the modern world. They consider themselves as a "political party" NOT a "religious movement". The bombings in Tashkent and the clashes with islamic opposition does not fit the ideology of HT i.e. "jihad with the wepons is not alowed in islam until there is a state, run by the islamic shariah". They reject the use of the force unless they get the government. But there is some kind of a over optimism in their ideas, such as they say that even if they r political party, its the party working under and in the name of islam. Mixing with non-believers (kufr) parties, i.e. acting in parlament, geting the governemntal positions in the kufr system is considered as agreeing with kufr and makes these moves as the act of rejecting islam, because all those laws, even if they do not contradict islam, are man-made laws. The same time, there can be no ways to use the power before u achiewe a state. So what does this mean? u cant be in government, u cant act in the curent policy and u cant use the power, so how are they thinking to establish the "islamic state"? they say, like our prophet (pbuh) did, i.e. by propogating the people AND the rulers, so one day, with the sign of God, one ruler will proclaim the state as caliphate. So, if they are fair in their words, then they cant support other terrorist groubs hiddenly and axpect them to come to the government and after that establish the government, nore they can do it democratically, cos both are not allowed. This neutralises all their moves, and MAKES THEM THE TOOL to be used agains whoever is consedered as dangerous.
Well, the subject of hizbuttahrir is too wide and deep, so if u guys have any more ideas abt HT, pls reply.
Many thanks

[Iranyar]

Hizbuttahrir is an organization for morons, they want to make an Afghanistan out of Uzbekistan, and president karimov is doing a great job fight them successfully.