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abdulloh-siddiq
12-31-2006, 03:52 AM
Birodarlar, saddam husainni ulimini videosini kurgan odam dahshatga tushadi, 1chidan zolimlikning ohiri voy bilan tugasa,2 chisi bu amerika britaniya islom dushmanlarining haqiqiy qassob ekanligiga shubha yuq, ohiratda Alloh bu kofirlarni ham huddi Saddamga uhshab osib quyganda biz ajablanmaymiz, aytamiz, sizlar musulmonlarni har minutda osib uldirardinglar, mana bugun alloh sizlarni ham butun umrga qiynab uldirmaydi, faqatgina azoblaydi, manu shu jahannam sizlar uchun haqiqiy joy, lekin saddamni ohirgi suzi la ilaha illalloh muhammadur rasululloh buldi, qanday zur jannat uchun suz buldi, alloh saddam husain ham u rahmatiga olgan busin, Bu Kofirlarga Allohning lanati bulsin, Bush ham Blair ham Jewslarni boshligi ham Bular Allohning dushmani, musulmonlarning qassobi hali shoshmasin, ohiratda gaplashamiz, bu kofirlarni er tiriklayin yutsin
ville
12-31-2006, 05:51 AM
Humanist sifatida o'lim jazosiga qarshiman. Lekin bu yerga islom-pislommi tiqishtirishni keregi yo'q. Qolaversa, SH qanchadan-qancha odammi yo'q qivordi. Islom dushmanlarimish, hoy, odam, qara, ko'zingni kattaroq och, o'sha sen aytgan musulmonlar uzzu kun oynai jahon orqali kofirning kallasini chopayotganini ko'rsatadi. Ha, endi AQSh ham bir marotaba osibdi bir g'addorni, shunga shunchami? Tag'inam, jarayonni arab (!) telekanallari namoyish etishdi (qonga tashna bular, arablar!). Kim aybdor, G'arb aybdor. Basharang xunuk bo'lsa, ko'zguda ayb yo'q!
wow_kabob
12-31-2006, 09:27 AM
Birodarlar, saddam husainni ulimini videosini kurgan odam dahshatga tushadi, 1chidan zolimlikning ohiri voy bilan tugasa,2 chisi bu amerika britaniya islom dushmanlarining haqiqiy qassob ekanligiga shubha yuq, ohiratda Alloh bu kofirlarni ham huddi Saddamga uhshab osib quyganda biz ajablanmaymiz, aytamiz, sizlar musulmonlarni har minutda osib uldirardinglar, mana bugun alloh sizlarni ham butun umrga qiynab uldirmaydi, faqatgina azoblaydi, manu shu jahannam sizlar uchun haqiqiy joy, lekin saddamni ohirgi suzi la ilaha illalloh muhammadur rasululloh buldi, qanday zur jannat uchun suz buldi, alloh saddam husain ham u rahmatiga olgan busin, Bu Kofirlarga Allohning lanati bulsin, Bush ham Blair ham Jewslarni boshligi ham Bular Allohning dushmani, musulmonlarning qassobi hali shoshmasin, ohiratda gaplashamiz, bu kofirlarni er tiriklayin yutsin
tugri desan bola uzi san saddam qigan ishlarni bilasanmi agar bilmasin oldin SADDAM akinni qigan ishlarni bilvogin
inter
12-31-2006, 09:59 AM
Humanist sifatida o'lim jazosiga qarshiman. Lekin bu yerga islom-pislommi tiqishtirishni keregi yo'q. Qolaversa, SH qanchadan-qancha odammi yo'q qivordi. Islom dushmanlarimish, hoy, odam, qara, ko'zingni kattaroq och, o'sha sen aytgan musulmonlar uzzu kun oynai jahon orqali kofirning kallasini chopayotganini ko'rsatadi. Ha, endi AQSh ham bir marotaba osibdi bir g'addorni, shunga shunchami? Tag'inam, jarayonni arab (!) telekanallari namoyish etishdi (qonga tashna bular, arablar!). Kim aybdor, G'arb aybdor. Basharang xunuk bo'lsa, ko'zguda ayb yo'q!
ville hulosa 4iqarishga shoshilmang!!!
har kuni odamlarni boshini 4opayotganlar musulmon deb uylamayman,
ular islomni niqob qilib olgan jangari, hudbinlar!!!
shu haromilarni deb sizga uhshagan aqli kamlar islomni qoralaysilar!!!
yana uylamang sh yonini olyapti deb!!!
lekin musulmonlarni qoralaganiz notigri!!!
ville
12-31-2006, 10:33 AM
ville hulosa 4iqarishga shoshilmang!!!
har kuni odamlarni boshini 4opayotganlar musulmon deb uylamayman,
ular islomni niqob qilib olgan jangari, hudbinlar!!!
shu haromilarni deb sizga uhshagan aqli kamlar islomni qoralaysilar!!!
yana uylamang sh yonini olyapti deb!!!
lekin musulmonlarni qoralaganiz notigri!!!
Mani aqli kam, deb ta'riflaganingiz uchun tashakkur :) Mana shunday, dindorlarga yoqmaydigan biron nima aytsang (hatto odob doirasida ham), seni haqoratlashga tushishadi. Bu dindorlar dinsizlardan ko'ra ancha agressivroq demakdir. Agressiya esa qotillikka, va hatto terrorga ham olib borishi hech gap emas. Demak dindorlar jangarilikka moyilroqdirlar, dinini qabul qilmasang o'ldirishga ham tayyor (Baqara surasi, 191-oyatni o'qing - "jangari xudbinlik" qo'llanmasi). Menga baribir, haqiqiy musulmonmi bosh chopayotganlar, nohaqiqiymi, puflanganmi, aldakasimmi, farqi yo'q, muhimi - musulmon!
Vector
01-01-2007, 09:06 AM
Saddam qilmishiga yarasha jazosini oldi. Albatta magfirat qilinsa bu sunnatdan.
Saddam ohiri tavba qilib kalimani keltirib olish ham hammaga nasib qilmaydi, gunohlari ogir, Alloh rahmatiga olsin. Lekin hayit kuni oldirilishi yomon boldi.
Akhee-Abdullah
01-01-2007, 10:52 AM
Humanist sifatida o'lim jazosiga qarshiman. Lekin bu yerga islom-pislommi tiqishtirishni keregi yo'q. Qolaversa, SH qanchadan-qancha odammi yo'q qivordi. Islom dushmanlarimish, hoy, odam, qara, ko'zingni kattaroq och, o'sha sen aytgan musulmonlar uzzu kun oynai jahon orqali kofirning kallasini chopayotganini ko'rsatadi. Ha, endi AQSh ham bir marotaba osibdi bir g'addorni, shunga shunchami? Tag'inam, jarayonni arab (!) telekanallari namoyish etishdi (qonga tashna bular, arablar!). Kim aybdor, G'arb aybdor. Basharang xunuk bo'lsa, ko'zguda ayb yo'q!
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Siz ozizni Humanist, oliy jazoga qarshi deb, shu postizning ozida "Shunga Shunchami" debsiz, Humanismni organgan kishi sifatida ikkilanmasdan aytaolamanki siz Humanistlikni niqob qilgan kishisiz, ammo Humanist emassiz, hapa bulmang taghin!
Arab millatiga mansub kishilarni qonxor debsiz, bu sizning Millatchi ekanizga ishora, siz Gumanist emassiz, ular Millatchi emaslar!!
Akhee-Abdullah
01-01-2007, 10:53 AM
Saddam qilmishiga yarasha jazosini oldi. Albatta magfirat qilinsa bu sunnatdan.
Saddam ohiri tavba qilib kalimani keltirib olish ham hammaga nasib qilmaydi, gunohlari ogir, Alloh rahmatiga olsin. Lekin hayit kuni oldirilishi yomon boldi.
Yashen brodar.
Akhee-Abdullah
01-01-2007, 10:56 AM
Mani aqli kam, deb ta'riflaganingiz uchun tashakkur :) Mana shunday, dindorlarga yoqmaydigan biron nima aytsang (hatto odob doirasida ham), seni haqoratlashga tushishadi. Bu dindorlar dinsizlardan ko'ra ancha agressivroq demakdir. Agressiya esa qotillikka, va hatto terrorga ham olib borishi hech gap emas. Demak dindorlar jangarilikka moyilroqdirlar, dinini qabul qilmasang o'ldirishga ham tayyor (Baqara surasi, 191-oyatni o'qing - "jangari xudbinlik" qo'llanmasi). Menga baribir, haqiqiy musulmonmi bosh chopayotganlar, nohaqiqiymi, puflanganmi, aldakasimmi, farqi yo'q, muhimi - musulmon!
Xosh : ), sizzi ilmiz kupga oqshaydi, Ville janoblari,
Baqara Surasining 191 oyatini bir tafsirlab beringchi, ilmizdan bahramand bulaylik.
For now I will share with you what I have found regarding this verse in Tafsir Ibn Kathir:
190. And fight in the way of Allah those who fight you, but transgress not the limits. Truly, Allah likes not the transgressors.) (191. And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing. And fight not with them at Al-Masjid Al-Haram (the sanctuary at Makkah), unless they (first) fight you there. But if they attack you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers. ) (192. But if they cease, then Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.)
The Command to fight Those Who fight Muslims and killing Them wherever They are found
Abu Ja`far Ar-Razi said that Ar-Rabi` bin Anas said that Abu Al-`Aliyah commented on what Allah said:
[وَقَـتِلُواْ فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ الَّذِينَ يُقَـتِلُونَكُمْ]
(And fight in the way of Allah those who fight you,)
Abu Al-`Aliyah said, "This was the first Ayah about fighting that was revealed in Al-Madinah. Ever since it was revealed, Allah's Messenger used to fight only those who fought him and avoid non-combatants. Later, Surat Bara'ah (chapter 9 in the Qur'an) was revealed.'' `Abdur-Rahman bin Zayd bin Aslam said similarly, then he said that this was later abrogated by the Ayah:
[فَاقْتُلُواْ الْمُشْرِكِينَ حَيْثُ وَجَدتُّمُوهُمْ]
(then kill them wherever you find them) (9:5).
However, this statement is not plausible, because Allah's statement:
[الَّذِينَ يُقَـتِلُونَكُمْ]
(...those who fight you) applies only to fighting the enemies who are engaged in fighting Islam and its people. So the Ayah means, `Fight those who fight you', just as Allah said (in another Ayah):
[وَقَاتِلُواْ الْمُشْرِكِينَ كَآفَّةً كَمَا يُقَـتِلُونَكُمْ كَآفَّةً]
(...and fight against the Mushrikin collectively as they fight against you collectively.) (9:36)
This is why Allah said later in the Ayah:
[وَاقْتُلُوهُمْ حَيْثُ ثَقِفْتُمُوهُمْ وَأَخْرِجُوهُمْ مِّنْ حَيْثُ أَخْرَجُوكُمْ]
(And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out.) meaning, `Your energy should be spent on fighting them, just as their energy is spent on fighting you, and on expelling them from the areas from which they have expelled you, as a law of equality in punishment.'
The Prohibition of mutilating the Dead and stealing from the captured Goods
Allah said:
[وَلاَ تَعْتَدُواْ إِنَّ اللَّهَ لاَ يُحِبُّ الْمُعْتَدِينَ]
(but transgress not the limits. Truly, Allah likes not the transgressors.)
This Ayah means, `Fight for the sake of Allah and do not be transgressors,' such as, by committing prohibitions. Al-Hasan Al-Basri stated that transgression (indicated by the Ayah), "includes mutilating the dead, theft (from the captured goods), killing women, children and old people who do not participate in warfare, killing priests and residents of houses of worship, burning down trees and killing animals without real benefit.'' This is also the opinion of Ibn `Abbas, `Umar bin `Abdul-`Aziz, Muqatil bin Hayyan and others. Muslim recorded in his Sahih that Buraydah narrated that Allah's Messenger said:
«اغْزُوا فِي سَبِيلِ اللهِ، قَاتِلُوا مَنْ كَفَرَ بِاللهِ، اغْزُوا وَلَا تَغُلُّوا وَلَا تَغْدِرُوا وَلَا تَمْثُلُوا وَلَا تَقْتُلُوا وَلِيدًا وَلَا أَصْحَابَ الصَّوَامِع»
(Fight for the sake of Allah and fight those who disbelieve in Allah. Fight, but do not steal (from the captured goods), commit treachery, mutilate (the dead), or kill a child, or those who reside in houses of worship.)
It is reported in the Two Sahihs that Ibn `Umar said, "A woman was found dead during one of the Prophet's battles and the Prophet then forbade killing women and children. '' There are many other Hadiths on this subject.
Shirk is worse than Killing
Since Jihad involves killing and shedding the blood of men, Allah indicated that these men are committing disbelief in Allah, associating with Him (in the worship) and hindering from His path, and this is a much greater evil and more disastrous than killing. Abu Malik commented about what Allah said:
[وَالْفِتْنَةُ أَشَدُّ مِنَ الْقَتْلِ]
(And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing.) Meaning what you (disbelievers) are committing is much worse than killing.'' Abu Al-`Aliyah, Mujahid, Sa`id bin Jubayr, `Ikrimah, Al-Hasan, Qatadah, Ad-Dahhak and Ar-Rabi` bin Anas said that what Allah said:
[وَالْفِتْنَةُ أَشَدُّ مِنَ الْقَتْلِ]
(And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing.) "Shirk (polytheism) is worse than killing.''
Fighting in the Sacred Area is prohibited, except in Self-Defense
Allah said:
[وَلاَ تُقَـتِلُوهُمْ عِندَ الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ]
(And fight not with them at Al-Masjid Al-Haram (the sanctuary at Makkah))
It is reported in the Two Sahihs that the Prophet said:
«إنَّ هَذَا الْبَلَدَ حَرَّمَهُ اللهُ يَوْمَ خَلَقَ السَّموَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ، فَهُوَ حَرَامٌ بِحُرْمَةِ اللهِ إِلى يَوْمِ الْقِيَامَةِ، وَلَمْ يَحِلَّ لِي إِلَّا سَاعَةً مِنْ نَهَارٍ، وَإِنَّهَا سَاعَتِي هذِهِ حَرامٌ بحُرْمَةِ اللهِ إِلى يَوْمِ الْقِيامَةِ، لا يُعْضَدُ شَجَرُهُ، وَلَا يُخْتَلىَ خَلَاهُ، فَإِنْ أَحَدٌ تَرَخَّصَ بِقِتَالِ رَسُولِ اللهِصلى الله عليه وسلّم، فَقُولُوا: إنَّ اللهَ أَذِنَ لِرَسُولِهِ وَلَمْ يَأْذَنْ لَكُم»
(Allah has made this city a sanctuary since the day He created the heavens and the earth. So, it is a sanctuary by Allah's decree till the Day of Resurrection. Fighting in it was made legal for me only for an hour in the daytime. So, it (i.e., Makkah) is a sanctuary, by Allah's decree, from now on until the Day of Resurrection. Its trees should not be cut, and its grass should not be uprooted. If anyone mentions the fighting in it that occurred by Allah's Messenger, then say that Allah allowed His Messenger, but did not allow you.)
In this Hadith, Allah's Messenger mentions fighting the people of Makkah when he conquered it by force, leading to some deaths among the polytheists in the area of the Khandamah. This occurred after the Prophet proclaimed:
«مَنْ أَغْلَقَ بَابَهُ فهُوَ آمِنٌ،وَمَنْ دَخَلَ الْمَسْجِدَ فَهُو آمِنٌ، ومَنْ دَخَلَ دَارَ أَبِي سُفْيَانَ فَهُوَ آمِن»
(Whoever closed his door is safe. Whoever entered the (Sacred) Mosque is safe. Whoever entered the house of Abu Sufyan is also safe.)
Allah said:
[حَتَّى يُقَـتِلُوكُمْ فِيهِ فَإِن قَـتَلُوكُمْ فَاقْتُلُوهُمْ كَذَلِكَ جَزَآءُ الْكَـفِرِينَ]
(...unless they (first) fight you there. But if they attack you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.)
Allah states: `Do not fight them in the area of the Sacred Mosque unless they start fighting you in it. In this case, you are allowed to fight them and kill them to stop their aggression.' Hence, Allah's Messenger took the pledge from his Companions under the tree (in the area of Al-Hudaybiyyah) to fight (the polytheists), after the tribes of Quraysh and their allies, Thaqif and other groups, collaborated against the Muslims (to stop them from entering Makkah to visit the Sacred House). Then, Allah stopped the fighting before it started between them and said:
[وَهُوَ الَّذِى كَفَّ أَيْدِيَهُمْ عَنكُمْ وَأَيْدِيَكُمْ عَنْهُم بِبَطْنِ مَكَّةَ مِن بَعْدِ أَنْ أَظْفَرَكُمْ عَلَيْهِمْ]
(And He it is Who has withheld their hands from you and your hands from them in the midst of Makkah, after He had made you victors over them.) (48:24) and:
[وَلَوْلاَ رِجَالٌ مُّؤْمِنُونَ وَنِسَآءٌ مُّؤْمِنَـتٌ لَّمْ تَعْلَمُوهُمْ أَن تَطَئُوهُمْ فَتُصِيبَكمْ مِّنْهُمْ مَّعَرَّةٌ بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ لِّيُدْخِلَ اللَّهُ فِى رَحْمَتِهِ مَن يَشَآءُ لَوْ تَزَيَّلُواْ لَعَذَّبْنَا الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ مِنْهُمْ عَذَاباً أَلِيماً]
(Had there not been believing men and believing women whom you did not know, that you may kill them and on whose account a sin would have been committed by you without (your) knowledge, that Allah might bring into His mercy whom He wills ـ if they (the believers and the disbelievers) had been apart, We verily, would have punished those of them who disbelieved with painful torment.) (48:25)
Allah's statement:
[فَإِنِ انتَهَوْاْ فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ ]
(But if they cease, then Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.) which means, `If they (polytheists) cease fighting you in the Sacred Area, and come to Islam and repent, then Allah will forgive them their sins, even if they had before killed Muslims in Allah's Sacred Area.' Indeed, Allah's forgiveness encompasses every sin, whatever its enormity, when the sinner repents it.
Abu-Bakr
01-01-2007, 11:10 AM
Mani aqli kam, deb ta'riflaganingiz uchun tashakkur :) Mana shunday, dindorlarga yoqmaydigan biron nima aytsang (hatto odob doirasida ham), seni haqoratlashga tushishadi. Bu dindorlar dinsizlardan ko'ra ancha agressivroq demakdir. Agressiya esa qotillikka, va hatto terrorga ham olib borishi hech gap emas. Demak dindorlar jangarilikka moyilroqdirlar, dinini qabul qilmasang o'ldirishga ham tayyor (Baqara surasi, 191-oyatni o'qing - "jangari xudbinlik" qo'llanmasi). Menga baribir, haqiqiy musulmonmi bosh chopayotganlar, nohaqiqiymi, puflanganmi, aldakasimmi, farqi yo'q, muhimi - musulmon!
Usha oyatni oxirigacha o'qib oling, tafsirini ham. Keyin gapiring.
Ha, endi AQSh ham bir marotaba osibdi bir g'addorni, shunga shunchami?
AQSH faqat bitta umas, urushda nechi ming odamni qotili bo'lgan. Afghoniston, Iroqda va musulmonlardan tashqari yana qancha odamlar. 9/11dachi, yana o'zini xalqini-ya, mana buni terror desa bo'ladi.
ville
01-01-2007, 01:19 PM
Siz ozizni Humanist, oliy jazoga qarshi deb, shu postizning ozida "Shunga Shunchami" debsiz, Humanismni organgan kishi sifatida ikkilanmasdan aytaolamanki siz Humanistlikni niqob qilgan kishisiz, ammo Humanist emassiz, hapa bulmang taghin!
Arab millatiga mansub kishilarni qonxor debsiz, bu sizning Millatchi ekanizga ishora, siz Gumanist emassiz, ular Millatchi emaslar!!
To'g'ri, uzr, haddimdan oshib ketibman (sobiq musulmonman, balki shuning-chun ozgina agressivlik qolgandir menda).
Shunga shunchami, deb aytmoqchi bo'lganim shuki, SH'ning o'limi SH qurbonlari soni oldida nisbatan arzimas bir kattalik. Lekin, o'lim jazosi baribir yaxshi ish bo'lmadi, umrbod qamoq, yoda uy qamog'i ham kifoya edi.
Arab millatiga mansub kishilar orasida maqtovga loyiqlari ham bor, yana bir bora uzrkim, butun bir millat nomiga dog' tushiribman (aslida bu mening principimga yot edi; millatchilikni odat qilmaganman).
Baqara Surasining 191 oyatini bir tafsirlab beringchi, ilmizdan bahramand bulaylik.
Siz bu oyat haqida ulamolar keltirgan izohlarni beribsiz. O'ylab qarang, axir bu ulamolar islomni jamoat oldida oqlamoqchi bo'lib turfa izohlar yozishgan, lekin bu o'shal oyat ma'nisini o'zgartirmaydi-ku? Cheksiz daraja rahmdil Alloh hech qachon birovni "o'ldir" deb buyruq bermas edi, hatto men ham cheksiz rahmdil bo'lmay turib (!) hali hech kimni o'ldirmadim, va tavsiya ham qilmayman.
Usha oyatni oxirigacha o'qib oling, tafsirini ham. Keyin gapiring.
Oyatning tafsirini o'qish nojoiz, chunki tafsirlarni payg'ambarlar yozmaydi. Faqatgina oyat o'qilishi lozim.
AQSH faqat bitta umas, urushda nechi ming odamni qotili bo'lgan. Afghoniston, Iroqda va musulmonlardan tashqari yana qancha odamlar. 9/11dachi, yana o'zini xalqini-ya, mana buni terror desa bo'ladi.
Haa, Afg'onistonda odamlar maza qilib yashayotgan edi tolibon tuzumi ostida. NATO kirib hammayoq vayron bo'ldi :)
Iroqqa intervenciya katta xato bo'ldi, to'g'ri aytdingiz. Chunki buning ortidan terrorchi guruhlar faollashib ketdi. Lekin Amriqolik askarlar qo'lidan halok bo'layotgan oddiy iroqliklar soni iroqliklar qo'lidan halok bo'layotgan oddiy iroqliklar sonidan ancha kam.
9/11 haqida: men conspiracy theory'larga ishqiboz emasman. Lekin AQShni ham (boshqa biror davlatni ham) farishta, deb hisoblamayman.
Akhee-Abdullah
01-01-2007, 01:58 PM
To'g'ri, uzr, haddimdan oshib ketibman (sobiq musulmonman, balki shuning-chun ozgina agressivlik qolgandir menda).
Siz bu oyat haqida ulamolar keltirgan izohlarni beribsiz. O'ylab qarang, axir bu ulamolar islomni jamoat oldida oqlamoqchi bo'lib turfa izohlar yozishgan, lekin bu o'shal oyat ma'nisini o'zgartirmaydi-ku? Cheksiz daraja rahmdil Alloh hech qachon birovni "o'ldir" deb buyruq bermas edi, hatto men ham cheksiz rahmdil bo'lmay turib (!) hali hech kimni o'ldirmadim, va tavsiya ham qilmayman.
Shu befahmligiiz sababini ham Islom diniga tonkamapsiz shunisizgayam shukuray : ) !!!
Taghin Mani Alloh aqli noqiz yaratgan deb qolmang...Top toza quruq bulib chiqasizda, shunaqa devorsaiz : )
Xop sizzi gapizni ma'qullaylik, ammo siz nazarda tutgan oyatdan bitta oldin kelgan oyat keyingi oyatni tushuntirmaydimi?!
Umuman oldin Muslimon edim dediz, demak siz shu ka'bi wa boshqa oyatlar mavjudiligini bilmasdan Muslimon bulgan ekansizda, shundan kelib chiqsak umuman Allohga wa Uning rasuliga ishonmasdan Muslim bulgan ekansizda. Alloh wa Uning Rasuliga Taslim bulmay Muslim bulgan bulsaiz, demak umuman Muslim bulmagan ekansizda : ) ana yolghoniz chiqdi...: )
ville
01-01-2007, 02:40 PM
Shu befahmligiiz sababini ham Islom diniga tonkamapsiz shunisizgayam shukuray : ) !!!
Taghin Mani Alloh aqli noqiz yaratgan deb qolmang...Top toza quruq bulib chiqasizda, shunaqa devorsaiz : )
Xop sizzi gapizni ma'qullaylik, ammo siz nazarda tutgan oyatdan bitta oldin kelgan oyat keyingi oyatni tushuntirmaydimi?!
Umuman oldin Muslimon edim dediz, demak siz shu ka'bi wa boshqa oyatlar mavjudiligini bilmasdan Muslimon bulgan ekansizda, shundan kelib chiqsak umuman Allohga wa Uning rasuliga ishonmasdan Muslim bulgan ekansizda. Alloh wa Uning Rasuliga Taslim bulmay Muslim bulgan bulsaiz, demak umuman Muslim bulmagan ekansizda : ) ana yolghoniz chiqdi...: )
Haqoratlar uchun rahmat. Og'zimdan chiqmasdan yelkamga yopishtirasiz. Men bu oyatlar mavjudligini bilmasdim, dedimmi? Sizga hayron qoldim!
inter
01-01-2007, 04:07 PM
US va UK ni fitnalariga kirib kup odam lar islomni qoralashyapti!!!
qonhur Bushni deb qan4adan qan4a odamlar ulib kettiku siz busez ularni tarafini olyapsiz!!!
misol u4un Saddam uldirilgan kuni iroqda 72 kishi halok buldi (portlashdan)
bular hammasi usha urod bushni deb!!!
oqlashdan oldin biroz uylab kuring "ville" !!! :(
omadizi bersin!!!
ville
01-01-2007, 04:48 PM
US va UK ni fitnalariga kirib kup odam lar islomni qoralashyapti!!!
qonhur Bushni deb qan4adan qan4a odamlar ulib kettiku siz busez ularni tarafini olyapsiz!!!
misol u4un Saddam uldirilgan kuni iroqda 72 kishi halok buldi (portlashdan)
bular hammasi usha urod bushni deb!!!
oqlashdan oldin biroz uylab kuring "ville" !!!
omadizi bersin!!!
Yo'qotadigan hech nimamiz yo'q...
72 kishi? Kim o'ldiribdi? George Dablyu Bush'ning o'zi rasmiy tashrif bilan borib pichoqlab kelibidimi yo'l-yo'lakay? Yoki Anthony Blair amaki bazooka bilan naq 72 iroqlikni ov qilibdimi? Umuman, G'arblik birortasi bu bechoralarni qatl etibdimi? Haa, balki allaqanday shia/sunniy guruhlar "biiir maza qilaylik", deb beliga borut bog'langan zombilarni olomon to'plangan joyga jo'natib portlatib yubordimikan? Oxirgi variant haqiqatga yaqinroq, shekilli...
inter
01-01-2007, 04:52 PM
Yo'qotadigan hech nimamiz yo'q...
72 kishi? Kim o'ldiribdi? George Dablyu Bush'ning o'zi rasmiy tashrif bilan borib pichoqlab kelibidimi yo'l-yo'lakay? Yoki Anthony Blair amaki bazooka bilan naq 72 iroqlikni ov qilibdimi? Umuman, G'arblik birortasi bu bechoralarni qatl etibdimi? Haa, balki allaqanday shia/sunniy guruhlar "biiir maza qilaylik", deb beliga borut bog'langan zombilarni olomon to'plangan joyga jo'natib portlatib yubordimikan? Oxirgi variant haqiqatga yaqinroq, shekilli...
bu hammasi S.H. ning ulimiga qarshi bulgan portlashdir!!!
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
sizni bu gaplariz insonni yuldan ozdishi he4 gapmas!!!
iltimos boshqa yozmang!!!:evil: :evil: :evil:
inter
01-01-2007, 04:58 PM
Mani aqli kam, deb ta'riflaganingiz uchun tashakkur :) Mana shunday, dindorlarga yoqmaydigan biron nima aytsang (hatto odob doirasida ham), seni haqoratlashga tushishadi. Bu dindorlar dinsizlardan ko'ra ancha agressivroq demakdir. Agressiya esa qotillikka, va hatto terrorga ham olib borishi hech gap emas. Demak dindorlar jangarilikka moyilroqdirlar, dinini qabul qilmasang o'ldirishga ham tayyor (Baqara surasi, 191-oyatni o'qing - "jangari xudbinlik" qo'llanmasi). Menga baribir, haqiqiy musulmonmi bosh chopayotganlar, nohaqiqiymi, puflanganmi, aldakasimmi, farqi yo'q, muhimi - musulmon!
tugri agressivroqdirman!
lekin bu hamma musulmonlar deganimas!
sizdan yana bir bor iltimos qilaman gapirishdan oldin uyleng!!!
agar uylashni bilmasez gapirmaganiz maqul!!!
ville
01-01-2007, 05:01 PM
bu hammasi S.H. ning ulimiga qarshi bulgan portlashdir!!!
Tusunarli, äîâåäåíèå äî ñàìîóáèéñòâà, demoqchisiz. Lekin baribir asl inson birovni portlatishga yo'l qo'ymaydi. O'zini o'ldirishi mumkin, Yaponiyadagi samuraylar seppuku'si kabi, lekin boshqasini...hech qachon.
sizni bu gaplariz insonni yuldan ozdishi he4 gapmas!!!
iltimos boshqa yozmang!!!
Men faqatgina o'z ichimdan quyilib kelayotgan gaplarni yozishga intilayapman, birovni yo'ldan ozdirish maqsadim emas.
NuR_BeK
01-01-2007, 05:06 PM
Saddam qilmishiga yarasha jazosini oldi. Albatta magfirat qilinsa bu sunnatdan.
Saddam ohiri tavba qilib kalimani keltirib olish ham hammaga nasib qilmaydi, gunohlari ogir, Alloh rahmatiga olsin. Lekin hayit kuni oldirilishi yomon boldi.
haqiqatda, ming zolim inson bo'lsa ham, o'lim jazosi Qurbon Hayiti kunida amalga oshirilgani yaxshi ish bo'lmadi, nazarimda o'lim jazosini ushbu kunda amalga oshirilishi, Bush tomonidan qilingan "meni kimligimni va nimalarga qodirligim ko'rib qo'ylaring" degan sh'ama bo'ldi. Yana ham kim biladi deysiz.
inter
01-01-2007, 05:09 PM
Tusunarli, äîâåäåíèå äî ñàìîóáèéñòâà, demoqchisiz. Lekin baribir asl inson birovni portlatishga yo'l qo'ymaydi. O'zini o'ldirishi mumkin, Yaponiyadagi samuraylar seppuku'si kabi, lekin boshqasini...hech qachon.
Men faqatgina o'z ichimdan quyilib kelayotgan gaplarni yozishga intilayapman, birovni yo'ldan ozdirish maqsadim emas.
habariz busa he4 kim uzini portlatmagan!!!
minalar avtomobillarga quyilgan!!!
uz joniga qast qilish gunohi kabiralardan!!!:evil:
(yana notugri uylamang,man shahsan terrorga qarshiman!!! )
inter
01-01-2007, 05:12 PM
Men faqatgina o'z ichimdan quyilib kelayotgan gaplarni yozishga intilayapman, birovni yo'ldan ozdirish maqsadim emas.
maqsadiz birortani yuldan ozdirish deganim yuq!:evil:
aytmoq4imanki bu gaplarizi uqib birortasi notugri yulga kirib qolmasin deyapman!
ville
01-01-2007, 05:15 PM
habariz busa he4 kim uzini portlatmagan!!!
minalar avtomobillarga quyilgan!!!
uz joniga qast qilish gunohi kabiralardan!!!
(yana notugri uylamang,man shahsan terrorga qarshiman!!! )
Asablar, asablar... Undovlar, undovlar...
O'rusistonda taqirboshlar asabbuzarlik qilishyaptimi (rus bayrog'ini ko'rib shunday deyapman:))?
Voy, yaxshiyamki, qavs ichidagi gapingizni yozdingiz :) Qo'rqib ketayozdim ))
Bo'pti, keyingi safar minalarni ulovlarga qo'yamiz, axir suicid gunoh-ku )))
ville
01-01-2007, 05:21 PM
maqsadiz birortani yuldan ozdirish deganim yuq!
aytmoq4imanki bu gaplarizi uqib birortasi notugri yulga kirib qolmasin deyapman!
Bu deyman, eshitish bilan bog'liq muammolaringiz bormi? :) Nuqul baqirasiz...
Smiley'laringizga ko'ra satanizm bilan ham qiziqar emishsiz :)
Ha, mening bu gaplarimni birortasi o'qib qolsa, yomon bo'ladi-ku! Attang, o'ylamabman... Axir birov kelib men va hamfikrlarimning gaplarini o'qib qolsa, mujohid bo'lib, beliga borut bog'laganlar soni kamayadi-ku! Ehh, avvalroq o'ylashim kerak edi :) shu orada bir necha potencial terrorchidan ayrildik :D
inter
01-01-2007, 05:28 PM
Asablar, asablar... Undovlar, undovlar...
O'rusistonda taqirboshlar asabbuzarlik qilishyaptimi (rus bayrog'ini ko'rib shunday deyapman:))?
Voy, yaxshiyamki, qavs ichidagi gapingizni yozdingiz :) Qo'rqib ketayozdim ))
Bo'pti, keyingi safar minalarni ulovlarga qo'yamiz, axir suicid gunoh-ku )))
asabbuzarlikda bir hilgi odamlar taqirboshlardan ham utib tushyapti...:evil:
inter
01-01-2007, 05:37 PM
Bu deyman, eshitish bilan bog'liq muammolaringiz bormi? :) Nuqul baqirasiz...
Smiley'laringizga ko'ra satanizm bilan ham qiziqar emishsiz :)
Ha, mening bu gaplarimni birortasi o'qib qolsa, yomon bo'ladi-ku! Attang, o'ylamabman... Axir birov kelib men va hamfikrlarimning gaplarini o'qib qolsa, mujohid bo'lib, beliga borut bog'laganlar soni kamayadi-ku! Ehh, avvalroq o'ylashim kerak edi :) shu orada bir necha potencial terrorchidan ayrildik :D
hudoga shukur 4 mu44am sog'!!!
"ilmni urganishni hohlamagan insonga urgatib ilmni hor qilma" deyishgan ekan!!!
ota onangiz ham musuimonmi???
yoki biror tanishiz bormi musulmonlardan???
ularni ham terror4i deb uylaysimi?
dunyodagi 1,9 mlrd kishi terror4i ekanda-a???
dunyo qarashlarimiz boshqa-boshqa ekan!
mayli sog buling!
ville
01-01-2007, 06:08 PM
hudoga shukur 4 mu44am sog'!!!
Xursandman.
"ilmni urganishni hohlamagan insonga urgatib ilmni hor qilma" deyishgan ekan!!!
ota onangiz ham musuimonmi???
yoki biror tanishiz bormi musulmonlardan???
ularni ham terror4i deb uylaysimi?
dunyodagi 1,9 mlrd kishi terror4i ekanda-a???
dunyo qarashlarimiz boshqa-boshqa ekan!
mayli sog buling!
Mana shunday... gap boshlasang doim qochishadi. Musulmon og'aynilarim meni ko'rsa berkinadigan bo'lib qolishgan.
Ilm, deb dinga aytayapsizmi? Men dinni folklorshunoslik bilan teng qo'yishim mumkin u holda :)
Atrofim to'la musulmon - mahallada o'sganman, oilam musulmon, o'rtoqlar ham. Lekin ko'pi rasman musulmon xolos, ya'ni masjidga faqat yilda 2 bora chiqishadi (hayyit kunlari). Shuning uchun ularni terrorchi, deb o'ylashga asos yo'q. Ammo qalin soqol qo'ygan, hoji do'ppi kiygan birisidan uzoqroqda yurisga harakat qilaman, chunki undaylar birovni bo'g'izlasa ham bir tuki qilt etmaydi.
PS. SMS yozyapsizmi, nuqul ch harfi o'rniga 4 raqamini ishlatasiz :)
HustleR
01-01-2007, 06:13 PM
ajoyib odamlar ajoyib suhbatlaru buerda a ... bolar tinchlik bulorsin.
inter
01-01-2007, 06:38 PM
Xursandman.
Mana shunday... gap boshlasang doim qochishadi. Musulmon og'aynilarim meni ko'rsa berkinadigan bo'lib qolishgan.
Ilm, deb dinga aytayapsizmi? Men dinni folklorshunoslik bilan teng qo'yishim mumkin u holda :)
Atrofim to'la musulmon - mahallada o'sganman, oilam musulmon, o'rtoqlar ham. Lekin ko'pi rasman musulmon xolos, ya'ni masjidga faqat yilda 2 bora chiqishadi (hayyit kunlari). Shuning uchun ularni terrorchi, deb o'ylashga asos yo'q. Ammo qalin soqol qo'ygan, hoji do'ppi kiygan birisidan uzoqroqda yurisga harakat qilaman, chunki undaylar birovni bo'g'izlasa ham bir tuki qilt etmaydi.
PS. SMS yozyapsizmi, nuqul ch harfi o'rniga 4 raqamini ishlatasiz :)
ollhga shukurki mani sizday dustim yuq!
(iloyim bumasin ham)
musilmon ogaynilariz sizdan bekinib tugri qilishadi,
zero shaytonni kursa qoshi4 kere!
oilez va mahalladagilarni rasman musulmon deb ularni haqoratlamang!!!
uzizga javob bering boshqalarni urniga mas!!!
inter
01-01-2007, 06:38 PM
Xursandman.
Mana shunday... gap boshlasang doim qochishadi. Musulmon og'aynilarim meni ko'rsa berkinadigan bo'lib qolishgan.
Ilm, deb dinga aytayapsizmi? Men dinni folklorshunoslik bilan teng qo'yishim mumkin u holda :)
Atrofim to'la musulmon - mahallada o'sganman, oilam musulmon, o'rtoqlar ham. Lekin ko'pi rasman musulmon xolos, ya'ni masjidga faqat yilda 2 bora chiqishadi (hayyit kunlari). Shuning uchun ularni terrorchi, deb o'ylashga asos yo'q. Ammo qalin soqol qo'ygan, hoji do'ppi kiygan birisidan uzoqroqda yurisga harakat qilaman, chunki undaylar birovni bo'g'izlasa ham bir tuki qilt etmaydi.
PS. SMS yozyapsizmi, nuqul ch harfi o'rniga 4 raqamini ishlatasiz :)
ollohga shukurki mani sizday dustim yuq!
(iloyim bumasin ham)
musilmon ogaynilariz sizdan bekinib tugri qilishadi,
zero shaytonni kursa qoshi4 kere!
oilez va mahalladagilarni rasman musulmon deb ularni haqoratlamang!!!
uzizga javob bering boshqalarni urniga mas!!!
munisa
01-01-2007, 07:45 PM
ajoyib odamlar ajoyib suhbatlaru buerda a ... bolar tinchlik bulorsin.
haaa,,,astag'furulloh..
ville
01-02-2007, 01:15 AM
ollohga shukurki mani sizday dustim yuq!
(iloyim bumasin ham)
Men esa, aksincha, do'st orttirishga intilaman.
musilmon ogaynilariz sizdan bekinib tugri qilishadi,
zero shaytonni kursa qoshi4 kere!
Men - shayton? Rosa kuldim...
oilez va mahalladagilarni rasman musulmon deb ularni haqoratlamang!!!
uzizga javob bering boshqalarni urniga mas!!!
1-Dunya musluman nufusu 1.3 milyardir. Toplam dunya nufusunun ceyregidir yani.
2-Bu 1.3 milyar muslumanin en az %10'u Sii dir.
3-Geriye kalanlarin yuzde bilmem kaci Allah'in hukumlerine (Poligami, el-kol kesme, kirbac cezasi, vs. gibi seylere karsidir.
4-Yuzde bilmem kaci da Allah'in haram saydigina aldiris etmeyip, alkol alir.
5- Yuz de bilmem kaci da imkani oldugu halde Hac vazifesini ignore eder.
6- kacakcilik yapan, rusvet alan-veren, adam olduren, kadin pazarlayan, hirsizlik yapan, genelev kapilarinda kuyruklar olusturan, ceza evlerini dolduran, tecavuz eden, birbirini kaziklayan insanlarin da kimliklerinde "Islam" yazar.
Islam'in 5 sartini aldirmayan, kendi kafasina gore yilda uc-bes kere camiye giden, uc-bes gun oruc tutan, malinin 1/40 ini vermeyen yuz milyonlarca "muslumanim" diyenler vardir.
Bu muslumanlari boyle bir filtreden gecirince gor bak geriye ne kaliyor.
Olinti keltirishdan o'zimni tiyib tura olmadim...
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