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tokyo
04-19-2001, 02:11 AM
read this
http://globalarchive.ft.com/globalarchive/articles.html?id=010414007821&query=osama+bin+laden

Akhee-Abdullah
04-19-2001, 02:54 AM
"ROBIN ALLEN"-What else you expect from a Jew, LOL :)
What A CRAPP Man!!! Why do you need to believe in a Crapp called Media, I just can't understand??!!! If Osama Ben Laden is guilty, he should be caught by mighty US :) , definietly, it looks like the US needs somebody in Afghanistan to make a BIG CRAPP out of nothing, so CIA can justify its huge budget in the new meeting at congress, otherwise lots of cats become unemployed...LOL, Actually a unit of Special Forces can get Osama in 24 hrs, max. The second thing, according to the US judicial law, a person should be found guilty at the court after trial, then you may call him whatever you want, plus there is no evidence for whatever he had done, I did not see any sound evidence, LOL. I think he is just another CIA imaginary agent, who must be "balancing" the powers in that strategic area, guys do not be fooled by these people who are really making CRAPP out of nothing, as stated in our Constitution we won't get into other nation busniess and do not let others to teach us a lesson. We do not need another afghan War, we lost enough guys in the 80's for false cause, "Communism", enough people have been slaughtered in the Name of Democracy, and Communism, Islam has done nothing compared to these fake ideoligies. Just in the US, during civil war, in 1860's, they killed 5-6 million of their own people, We do not need to mention "Communism", mentioning Stalin is enough who killed more than a million, including my Great-Gandpa, I hate those guys so much so that I can't mention their names without hatred. Another thing, J.Namangani is also a fruit of Afghan war, we do not want many Namanganis, do We? Uzbekistan is a peaceful country, and it does not need a war. I am not speaking on others' behalf, but as a citizen I am speaking on my own behalf, NO WAR, BUT PEACE, that was what we need if not want...
Cheers, :)

Javanmard
04-19-2001, 04:50 PM
I suppose your right Lucky, if the USA wants this guy...they could probably get him....he serves there purposes more free, than behind bars....

But the fact remains.....he is an idiot...he has done nothing....for anybody except stir up hatred for muslims....

I think the Taleban should just hand him over......and get it over with...

figaro
04-19-2001, 08:49 PM
I do not belive that usama bin laden is an enemy of the mankind. one thing i know is that he is an dangerous person for the usa. and usa is not necessarily a positive force in the world.
In addition i do not agree with luky and jav., coz usa is not god, it is not almighty, remember cia's disgraceful 8 attempts to assasin castro, +gaddafi of libya. How can i beleive that usa can catch usama within 24 hours? nonsence.
Do you really believe that usama is a devil? probably you have facts against usama, but are u familiar with anything that supports usama? if u like to have a fair conclusion, please listen to the both sides. and do not forget, americans are not angels.

Javanmard
04-20-2001, 02:12 AM
Bin Laden is not the devil...he is just annoying....

They take him away....he is not helping anybody...except himself and a handful of fanatics......I hope the USA take him and get him out of all muslims hair......

He is an idiot with no morals or scruples....he is constantly telling people to attack Amercian families, women and children.......

That is dishonourable ( I know most muslim Fanatics have no honour) and is embarassing for all the muslim peoples...

I don't care how evil the American government is.....killing women and children on purpose is evil...and anybody who threatens women and children repeatidly should be taken care of......

Student@
04-20-2001, 03:06 AM
This suspect terrorist Ben Laden should be brought to the court, live or dead.

1. Fundamentalist islam is threat to secular system of UZB, the very islamic fundamentalists are to blame for the lack of democratic reforms in UZB (so the government has a good excuse for halting democratisation of the society showing at 'islamic threat' if freedoms are allowed).

2. The US is a good friend of UZB, also the greatest power in the world. We should always have good relations with the US, and believe the presence of the US in the region is highly desired for us (providing balance of power against ambigious Russia, China and islamic Iran).

Lastly, it is a good opportunty for the intelligence services of UZB to work with CIS, it will promote further cooperation between UZ-US.

I would like to see the US supporting UZ in building a secular democratic society e.x. investing in education of young generation etc.

Javanmard
04-20-2001, 04:06 AM
Maybe Studen@ has some terribly inaccurate ideas about Persians and Iranians in general....but he has made some good points......

Being the US's slave is one thing...but maintaining good relations with all powers is in the best interests of your own people......

Inviting the US into the region is a mistake though....once they come in it is very difficult to get them to leave........

But going back to the original point....Bin Laden is first of all, an Arab...ie...alien to the region...why does'nt he go live in Sudan again...I am sure they will accept him..

Student@
04-20-2001, 04:14 AM
whops, pls read as "good opportunty for the intelligence services of UZB to work with CIS,"

thanks -:)

Javanmard: the point is not if someone is arab or somebody else, even if Ben Laden were uzbek or let's say 'aryan' -:) it should be applied the same approuch.

regards

Student@
04-20-2001, 04:18 AM
whops, pls read as "good opportunty for the intelligence services of UZB to work with CIA,"

thanks -:)

Javanmard: the point is not if someone is arab or somebody else, even if Ben Laden were uzbek or let's say 'aryan' -:) the same approuch would be appropriate.

regards