еще раз о выездной визе

[Crazy Diamond]

дорогие форумчане,

у меня такая ситуация возникла. собираюсь полететь на две недели домой в марте, и по долгу работы могу поехать только на последние две недели месяца. овировская виза у меня заканчивается 30 марта. я смогу, скажем, 28 марта улететь безприпятственно? конечно я, положа руку на сердце, обещнусь продлить визу в посольстве в ю.к, или вернутся через два дня для продления визы. :nod: :nod: :nod:

заниматься продлением визы не охота и не будет времени. овировской визы. к тому же, у меня осталась только одна чистая страничка в паспорте (а менять паспорт не хочется вдвойне).

кто-нибудь сталкивался с подобным? расскажите. в нете я не смогла найти абсолютно никакой полезной информации.

с нетерпением ждущая ответов,
crazy diamond

[Globaluz]

Here I disagree with you dear PASSION, because a friend of mine visited from EU to Moscow with expired OVIR visa once (he didn't want to go Tashkent because if he does, he should apply for new OVIR visa), thinking he wouldnt have problems leaving Russian Federation, but at the day of flight to EU back "pogranichniki" said: "Your OVIR internal visa expired, you couldn't fly, please prolongate it". And he had to flew to TAS and got new internal visa. So long way, he just wanted do short vacation in Moskow, but after it took him more tham one month. It was 2004. I know before it was no problem with expired OVIR fly to Russia from EU or etc, but they changed their "Migracionnoe zakonodatel'stvo and poryadok peresecheniya granicy Rossiyskoy Federacii".

So, that's way be careful CD. When he flew to Moscow he also didn't know it (before he flew without problem to Russia) and finally was dissappointed.

OVIR visa is for exit (from Uzb) only. You will not face any problem even if you have expired OVIR visa when leaving foreign country (travelling abroad, arriving in Uzb).

However, when you arrive in Uzbekistan, you should get a new OVIR visa (as it expires very soon) in order to go back to the UK. Otherwise you'll be in a trouble.

If you're not intended to travel from Uzb, don't worry about OVIR.

[Crazy Diamond]

пашн, спасибо за ответ - одна заметка: я собираюсь полететь в ташкент перед наврузом, числа 17ого, а вылететь числа 28 хотелось бы..

[JoJ]

конечно я, положа руку на сердце, обещнусь продлить визу в посольстве в ю.к, или вернутся через два дня для продления визы. :nod: :nod: :nod:


а визу в посольстве не продливают, только в ОВИРе :)

[Crazy Diamond]

Here I disagree with you dear PASSION, because a friend of mine visited from EU to Moscow with expired OVIR visa once (he didn't want to go Tashkent because if he does, he should apply for new OVIR visa), thinking he wouldnt have problems leaving Russian Federation, but at the day of flight to EU back "pogranichniki" said: "Your OVIR internal visa expired, you couldn't fly, please prolongate it". One he had to do, he flew to TAS and got new internal visa. It was 2004. I know before it was no problem with expired OVIR fly to Russia from EU or etc, but they changed their "Migracionnoe zakonodatel'stvo and poryadok peresecheniya granicy Rossiyskoy Federacii".

So, that's way be careful. When he flew to Moscow he also didn't know it (before he flew without problem to Russia) and finally was dissappointed.


Russian passport control have done this to me once already when I was on on my way back from Moscow to London. They took me off the flight, bastards - I had to go to Tashkent to get a new OVIR visa, which actually turned out to be a rather nice vacation. ;)

[Crazy Diamond]

а визу в посольстве не продливают, только в ОВИРе :)

визу в посольстве продлевают студентам и госслужащим, насколько я понимаю, разве нет?

[Globaluz]

Exactly, this is also my point, you will have then "nezaplanirovannie" holidays, good occasion to visit your home. Take your chance (c).
Moscow passport control have done this to me once when I was on my way to London from a business trip. They took me off the flight, bastards - I had to go to Tashkent, which turned out to be a rather nice vacation. ;)

To apply for OVIR from outside of UZB, e.g via embassy lasts ages, better fly home.
визу в посольстве продлевают студентам и госслужащим, насколько я понимаю, разве нет?

[Crazy Diamond]

If you have some connections at OVIR office you'll not have a problem.

Otherwise, talk with the OVIR officer that you need your visa ASAP. You can get it quickly (in 2-3 days) for extra payment ;)

были связи раньше. больше нету. надо будет искать. а какие сейчас расценки? в прошлый раз я кажется продуплилась - заплатила около 350 долларов, а они мне визу вместо 5 дней делали две недели... гады! :evil:

[Asadbek]

визу в посольстве продлевают студентам и госслужащим, насколько я понимаю, разве нет?
Yo'q.

OVIR - Ichki Ishlar Vazirligiga tegishli narsa. Shu sababli, OVIR faqat O'zbekistonda qilinadi.

Masalan, chet elda turib elchixona yoki konsullik orqali passport almashtirganingizda ham, ular O'zbekistondan OVIRdan pechat olinishini kutishadi.

Elchixonalarda faqat OVIRni uzaytirish uchun Passport aniq qabul qilinmasa kerak, chunki amaldagi qoununga ko'ra, OVIR muddati o'tib ketgan bo'lsa ham O'zbekistonga muammosiz kiritilasiz. U yoqda uzaytirib olish - sizning ishingiz... Qancha muddatga borganligingiz hech kimni qiziqtirmaydi...

[JoJ]

... "pogranichniki" said: "Your OVIR internal visa expired, you couldn't fly, please prolongate it"...

Here i agree with Globaluz. According to intergovermental agreement among CIS countries, you will not be allowed to cross the CIS border if your OVIR visa is expired.

[Globaluz]

Right, if you want to get OVIR from abroad, you go to embassy or consulate, leave your passport. Consulate sends your passport to UZB and there your request of new OVIR visa is normal procedure for them and takes the same time like for everybody in UZB. After your local ROVD office, they send passport back to consulate.

Yo'q.
OVIR - Ichki Ishlar Vazirligiga tegishli narsa. Shu sababli, OVIR faqat O'zbekistonda qilinadi.

Masalan, chet elda turib elchixona yoki konsullik orqali passport almashtirganingizda ham, ular O'zbekistondan OVIRdan pechat olinishini kutishadi.


and it calls: Controlling everywhere !!
Here i agree with Globaluz. According to intergovermental agreement among CIS countries, you will not be allowed to cross the CIS border if your OVIR visa is expired.

[Crazy Diamond]

Yo'q.

OVIR - Ichki Ishlar Vazirligiga tegishli narsa. Shu sababli, OVIR faqat O'zbekistonda qilinadi.

Masalan, chet elda turib elchixona yoki konsullik orqali passport almashtirganingizda ham, ular O'zbekistondan OVIRdan pechat olinishini kutishadi.

Elchixonalarda faqat OVIRni uzaytirish uchun Passport aniq qabul qilinmasa kerak, chunki amaldagi qoununga ko'ra, OVIR muddati o'tib ketgan bo'lsa ham O'zbekistonga muammosiz kiritilasiz. U yoqda uzaytirib olish - sizning ishingiz... Qancha muddatga borganligingiz hech kimni qiziqtirmaydi...

рахмат, Асадбек.

говоря продлить паспорт/овировскую визу в посольстве, я подразумевала, что вы документы подаете в посольстве, а посольство уже отправляет их в ташкент. я знаю что такое делается (или по крайней мере делалось совсем недавно).

мой главный вопрос остается: меня выпустят с овировской визой, действительной только на пару дней? :rolleyes:

[Globaluz]

Думаю, лучше перестраховаться и билет потом же не вернешь.

мой главный вопрос остается: меня выпустят с овировской визой, действительной только на пару дней? :rolleyes:

[Royal]

not sure, but I heard something like "in order to leave Uzbekistan, one should have a valid OVIR visa at least for 6 months".

However, from my personal experience, I left Tashkent with OVIR visa expiring in 1 month.

Not sure about 2-3 days... I think you shouldn't face a problem.
6 oy degan gap bu passportga tegishlik
OVIR ruhsati bosa boldi chiqarishadi..

[Asadbek]

мой главный вопрос остается: меня выпустят с овировской визой, действительной только на пару дней? :rolleyes:

Памятка для узбекистанских путешественников, выезжающих за рубеж

Для оформления выезда за границу граждане РУ обращаются в органы внутренних дел по месту жительства с заполненной анкетой-заявлением установленной формы и предъявлением паспорта. Органы внутренних дел рассматривают анкету-заявление гражданина РУ в 15-дневный срок и проставляют в его паспорте стикер разрешительной записи для выезда за границу сроком на два года. В течение этого срока граждане могут выезжать за границу неоднократно без дополнительного обращения в органы внутренних дел для оформления выезда.

....

http://www.mfa.uz/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=23&page=1

[Royal]

eeeee....

chegaradigi bollayam odamde endi, yaqinda oshattan otvotman, samalyotga kech qovotmizade, oldimizdigi ayoldan soravotti:
qaqqa ketvotsiz ? nime ketvotsiz ? green cartani qando oldiz ?
yoshiz nechchida ?

blin

chegaradan otishda avtobiografiyani yozip kelish keraykanmi agar ayol kishi bosa ? dip qoldim...mangayam qarab turip bir nima soramoqchiydi...lekin bopti ketvurin didi, lekin yahshilap gapirmoqchiydim oziyam . zorga turgandim ozi.

[JoJ]

[INDENT]
Памятка для узбекистанских путешественников, выезжающих за рубеж

В течение этого срока граждане могут выезжать за границу неоднократно без дополнительного обращения в органы внутренних дел для оформления выезда.

....


Bek, this is clear to everyone. But as you know in Uzbekistan there are so many not written laws. So, I m almost sure there must be one for this kinda cases. you will surely face with one of them while you are leaving the country like "OVIR viza should be valid at least for bla bla bla"...

[Asadbek]

Bek, this is clear to everyone. But as you know in Uzbekistan there are so many not written laws. So, I m almost sure there must be one for this kinda cases. you will surely face with one of them while you are leaving the country like "OVIR viza should be valid at least for bla bla bla"...Ha, bu narsa ham o'z-o'zidan tushunarli-yu...

Biz bu yerda shunaqa rasmiy ma'lumotlarga qarab, unaqa bo'ladi, bunaqa bo'ladi, deb taxmin qilaveramiz... Aeroportning chegara qismida ishlaydigan yoki shu atrofdan tanishlari bor odamlar surishtirib berishlari mumkin.

Menimcha, Bonikdan so'rash kerak...

[Royal]

Bek

Bu qonunlar hammasi juda chiroyli va ba'mani qilip yozilgan lekin QALAMDA ! ! !

[Crazy Diamond]

спасиб за советы.

я обычно прохожу через вип-зал, там вопросов меньше задают. :d рискну вылететь обратно за пару дней до истечения срока овировской визы.

[abcd]

мой главный вопрос остается: меня выпустят с овировской визой, действительной только на пару дней? :rolleyes:

Definitely NO. Not from my experience but somebody had that issue.

[Royal]

спасиб за советы.

я обычно прохожу через вип-зал, там вопросов меньше задают. :d рискну вылететь обратно за пару дней до истечения срока овировской визы.
hozir yengisiyam ochiliptimi : aeroportga qaraganda ong tarafda VIP a chap tarafda CIP degani ochiliptimi ?

VIP 25 CIP 15akanmish ?

[Crazy Diamond]

Definitely NO. Not from my experience but somebody had that issue.

Hmm. More details on this would certainly be appreciated...

[referee]

Yo'q.

OVIR - Ichki Ishlar Vazirligiga tegishli narsa. Shu sababli, OVIR faqat O'zbekistonda qilinadi.

Masalan, chet elda turib elchixona yoki konsullik orqali passport almashtirganingizda ham, ular O'zbekistondan OVIRdan pechat olinishini kutishadi.

Elchixonalarda faqat OVIRni uzaytirish uchun Passport aniq qabul qilinmasa kerak, chunki amaldagi qoununga ko'ra, OVIR muddati o'tib ketgan bo'lsa ham O'zbekistonga muammosiz kiritilasiz. U yoqda uzaytirib olish - sizning ishingiz... Qancha muddatga borganligingiz hech kimni qiziqtirmaydi...

You are right, OVIR visa is within MVD functions. Besides, OVIR visa is for exiting Uzb-n, and if you are abroad that means you don't need the visa to exit Uzb-n, unless you go to Uzb-n. There is only one big issue with this. which is that Uzb-n has agreements with CIS countries that they will not allow Uzbek citizens to leave their borders without a valid OVIR visa. So if you go on vacation or work to Moscow or Kiev, they could ban you from leaving their borders. It's a big legal flaw of the system! BUT this rule is not applied stringently in every CIS country, for example, if you fly from Domodedovo then I bet you whatever that you will be prevented from flying with expired OVIR, but Armenia or Belarus is less strict on this...

[referee]

мой главный вопрос остается: меня выпустят с овировской визой, действительной только на пару дней? :rolleyes:

By law, they must, but as anything in Uzb-n, it depends. It's the same with propiska or any other visa, its validity is there for a legal reason, i.e. to certify that you are allowed to exit Uzb-n till the day of expiry of it.
The law will be on your side, but officers at the airport will try to make their earning, if you give them a chance.

[Maroon]

hozir yengisiyam ochiliptimi : aeroportga qaraganda ong tarafda VIP a chap tarafda CIP degani ochiliptimi ?

VIP 25 CIP 15akanmish ?

VIP is on the right side and CIP is straight acroos the door. VIP is 30. CIP I don't know. If you have Business or First CIP is free of charge whereas VIP is not.

The exits for VIP and CIP have changed when you arrive and departure. CIP departure room is the same but they take you across the ordinary airport. CIP does not use the arrival room that they used to. It is not only for VIP now.

[Maroon]

Another thing CD, better do your ovir or they won't let you out. It is stricter nowadays.

To do your ovir does not take long. If you need help with it contact me.

[Crazy Diamond]

Another thing CD, better do your ovir or they won't let you out. It is stricter nowadays.

To do your ovir does not take long. If you need help with it contact me.

Cheers for offering help. Might take the offer up, if it comes to it. ;) I guess it is better to spend a little money getting an exit visa, than stress out about it at the airport.

Hope will manage to get in in ten days - plus with Navruz holiday in the middle of it.

CD

[Samimiy]

You are right, OVIR visa is within MVD functions. Besides, OVIR visa is for exiting Uzb-n, and if you are abroad that means you don't need the visa to exit Uzb-n, unless you go to Uzb-n. There is only one big issue with this. which is that Uzb-n has agreements with CIS countries that they will not allow Uzbek citizens to leave their borders without a valid OVIR visa. So if you go on vacation or work to Moscow or Kiev, they could ban you from leaving their borders. It's a big legal flaw of the system! BUT this rule is not applied stringently in every CIS country, for example, if you fly from Domodedovo then I bet you whatever that you will be prevented from flying with expired OVIR, but Armenia or Belarus is less strict on this...

Just wanted to make sure Uzb. does not have a similar agreement with Turkey. Anyone visited Turkey with an expired OVIR visa and left the country without any problems?

[Tokugawa]

Crazy Diamond,

I used to write about this before, try to get as close as possible (somehow) to influential person in MVD (+MID could be of help, if you are applying from abroad) not to lose your nerves and kindly request him, prepare some presents + $$$. This is not, of course true for 100% cases, but you have tight time restraints and leaving with Exit Visa which has only 2 days valid left is suspicious, although legally you have total right to do so.

I had bad nightmare with this passport + visa thing, which was (or is :) ) about to ruin my career and credibility, although I stay in good relations with our Embassy here. So, in your case I wouldn't risk.

Good luck!

PS: If someone from Forum comes to power (like senator or MVD Minister), please change the rules to have (1) more pages in our passports and (2) abolish OVIR visa. Duoni ostida ko'milib qolasiz! :D

[Буратино]

Crazy Diamond,

I used to write about this before, try to get as close as possible (somehow) to influential person in MVD (+MID could be of help, if you are applying from abroad) not to lose your nerves and kindly request him, prepare some presents + $$$. This is not, of course true for 100% cases, but you have tight time restraints and leaving with Exit Visa which has only 2 days valid left is suspicious, although legally you have total right to do so.

I had bad nightmare with this passport + visa thing, which was (or is :) ) about to ruin my career and credibility, although I stay in good relations with our Embassy here. So, in your case I wouldn't risk.

Good luck!

PS: If someone from Forum comes to power (like senator or MVD Minister), please change the rules to have (1) more pages in our passports and (2) abolish OVIR visa. Duoni ostida ko'milib qolasiz! :D

I must note that Exit visas are illegal by their nature.No country,president or government have a right to restrict people from travelling abroad.I should not be asking for permission and going through intensive background check in order to leave my country of residence.This is a political imprisonment.

[Samimiy]

I must note that Exit visas are illegal by their nature.No country,president or government have a right to restrict people from travelling abroad.I should not be asking for permission and going through intensive background check in order to live my country of residence.This is a political imprisonment.

I agree, the exit visa is a remnant of our Soviet past. It's telling that even our neighbor Turkmenistan has eliminated exit visas.

[Frida]

Ok, demak hamma gaplarni bitta qilib, xulosa qilaman :)
Agar O'zbekistonga borsangiz qaytib chiqib ketayotganingizda OVIR visangiz amal qilish muddati 5-10 kundan keyin chiqadigan bo'lsa, uni albatta almashtirishingiz, ya'ni yangi OVIR olishingiz kerak, shundaymi? Men o'zim Mayda bormoqchiman. OVIR vizamning muddati 27-28da chiqadi, shuning uchun 21-22chilarda juftakni rostlab yubormoqchi edim. Demak, o'xshamaydi, shundaymi? Borib yangisini olishimm kerak. Undan tashqari US vizamni ham almashtirishim kerak, ish ko'p bo'lar ekanda. :( Qaysi birini birinchi olishni maslahat berasizlar? Masalan AQSh vizamni yangiliab olib, (aytaylik borishim bilan, 10-12-Maylarda) keyin yangi OVIR olganim yaxshimi, yoki teskarisi. Javoblaringiz uchun avvaldan minnatdorman.

[Inspiredmind]

Ok, demak hamma gaplarni bitta qilib, xulosa qilaman :)
Agar O'zbekistonga borsangiz qaytib chiqib ketayotganingizda OVIR visangiz amal qilish muddati 5-10 kundan keyin chiqadigan bo'lsa, uni albatta almashtirishingiz, ya'ni yangi OVIR olishingiz kerak, shundaymi? Men o'zim Mayda bormoqchiman. OVIR vizamning muddati 27-28da chiqadi, shuning uchun 21-22chilarda juftakni rostlab yubormoqchi edim. Demak, o'xshamaydi, shundaymi? Borib yangisini olishimm kerak. Undan tashqari US vizamni ham almashtirishim kerak, ish ko'p bo'lar ekanda. :( Qaysi birini birinchi olishni maslahat berasizlar? Masalan AQSh vizamni yangiliab olib, (aytaylik borishim bilan, 10-12-Maylarda) keyin yangi OVIR olganim yaxshimi, yoki teskarisi. Javoblaringiz uchun avvaldan minnatdorman.

ovirni yangilamasdan kanday USAni visasini olasiz F Kahlo honim?:D first national procudure then foreign... shu javob, agarda to'gri tushungan bo'lsam savolingizni.

[Frida]

ovirni yangilamasdan kanday USAni visasini olasiz F Kahlo honim?:D first national procudure then foreign... shu javob, agarda to'gri tushungan bo'lsam savolingizni.

Donishmand, eski OVIRimning amal muddati 25 mayda chiqadi. Shuning uchun hali ham "valid" bo'ladi. Yangi OVIR olishimning sababi, chiqib ketayotganimda adi-badi qilmasin deyapman. :). Agar shunisi bo'lmaganda OVIRni umuman yangilamagan bo'lar edim. AQSH vizasini yangilab, 25gacha O'zbekistondan chiqib ketar edim. Lekin bu yerdagilar bu muammo bo'lishi mumkin deyishyapti.

[Inspiredmind]

Donishmand, eski OVIRimning amal muddati 25 mayda chiqadi. Shuning uchun hali ham "valid" bo'ladi. Yangi OVIR olishimning sababi, chiqib ketayotganimda adi-badi qilmasin deyapman. :). Agar shunisi bo'lmaganda OVIRni umuman yangilamagan bo'lar edim. AQSH vizasini yangilab, 25gacha O'zbekistondan chiqib ketar edim. Lekin bu yerdagilar bu muammo bo'lishi mumkin deyishyapti.
USA visasini renew kilayotgan vaktda ambassy hodimlari check kilsa kerakk ovirni myddatini ham, va plus in borders might be some problems, i f u have time, do it please F. Kahlo honim...:D

[-Resident-]

Ok, demak hamma gaplarni bitta qilib, xulosa qilaman :)
Agar O'zbekistonga borsangiz qaytib chiqib ketayotganingizda OVIR visangiz amal qilish muddati 5-10 kundan keyin chiqadigan bo'lsa, uni albatta almashtirishingiz, ya'ni yangi OVIR olishingiz kerak, shundaymi? Men o'zim Mayda bormoqchiman. OVIR vizamning muddati 27-28da chiqadi, shuning uchun 21-22chilarda juftakni rostlab yubormoqchi edim. Demak, o'xshamaydi, shundaymi? Borib yangisini olishimm kerak. Undan tashqari US vizamni ham almashtirishim kerak, ish ko'p bo'lar ekanda. :( Qaysi birini birinchi olishni maslahat berasizlar? Masalan AQSh vizamni yangiliab olib, (aytaylik borishim bilan, 10-12-Maylarda) keyin yangi OVIR olganim yaxshimi, yoki teskarisi. Javoblaringiz uchun avvaldan minnatdorman.

Eng optimal variant O`zbekistonga borib o`sha ovirga kirib shu vaziyatni ayting agar ular bir kun qolgan bo`lsa ham chiqib ketishingizga kafolat bersa keragi yo`q yangi olishni. Bo`lmasam o`sha erni o`zida hujjatlarni topshirib chiqaverasiz:)

[Frida]

Eng optimal variant O`zbekistonga borib o`sha ovirga kirib shu vaziyatni ayting agar ular bir kun qolgan bo`lsa ham chiqib ketishingizga kafolat bersa keragi yo`q yangi olishni. Bo`lmasam o`sha erni o`zida hujjatlarni topshirib chiqaverasiz:)


Bu variant bo'lmaydi. Chunki agar yangi OVIR olishni mo'ljallasam unda qaytib kelishni iyunning 10-lariga mo'ljallayman. Agar olmasam unda 25 maydan avval chiqib ketishga to'g'ri keladi. Man javob berar deb 25-dan avval bilet olsam, OVIRdagilar yo'q desa, keyin yangi OVIR qilib, baribir 25-dan avval ketsam rosa alam qiladi. :D Yangi qildirsam, kamida yana 10kun qolaman. Hammaga rahmat! Lekin yangi olaman, va Toshkentdan kamida Iyuning 10-larida qaytaman. :)

[lyalyapo]

US posolstvoni bilmaymanku, lekin bir tanishim boshqa yerga topshirvotkanda OVIR kam qolganiga visasini bermiy turishkan, OVIR ingni cho'zdir deb, shunga ehtiyot sharti baribir qilib keyin topshirgan yahshidir

[-Resident-]

US posolstvoni bilmaymanku, lekin bir tanishim boshqa yerga topshirvotkanda OVIR kam qolganiga visasini bermiy turishkan, OVIR ingni cho'zdir deb, shunga ehtiyot sharti baribir qilib keyin topshirgan yahshidir

AQSH elchihonasida ham bor bunday qoida web siteda ham yozib qo`ygan adashmasam.

[Samimiy]

Yo'q.

OVIR - Ichki Ishlar Vazirligiga tegishli narsa. Shu sababli, OVIR faqat O'zbekistonda qilinadi.

Masalan, chet elda turib elchixona yoki konsullik orqali passport almashtirganingizda ham, ular O'zbekistondan OVIRdan pechat olinishini kutishadi.

Elchixonalarda faqat OVIRni uzaytirish uchun Passport aniq qabul qilinmasa kerak, chunki amaldagi qoununga ko'ra, OVIR muddati o'tib ketgan bo'lsa ham O'zbekistonga muammosiz kiritilasiz. U yoqda uzaytirib olish - sizning ishingiz... Qancha muddatga borganligingiz hech kimni qiziqtirmaydi...

Right, if you want to get OVIR from abroad, you go to embassy or consulate, leave your passport. Consulate sends your passport to UZB and there your request of new OVIR visa is normal procedure for them and takes the same time like for everybody in UZB. After your local ROVD office, they send passport back to consulate.


You are right, OVIR visa is within MVD functions. Besides, OVIR visa is for exiting Uzb-n, and if you are abroad that means you don't need the visa to exit Uzb-n, unless you go to Uzb-n. There is only one big issue with this. which is that Uzb-n has agreements with CIS countries that they will not allow Uzbek citizens to leave their borders without a valid OVIR visa. So if you go on vacation or work to Moscow or Kiev, they could ban you from leaving their borders. It's a big legal flaw of the system! BUT this rule is not applied stringently in every CIS country, for example, if you fly from Domodedovo then I bet you whatever that you will be prevented from flying with expired OVIR, but Armenia or Belarus is less strict on this...

Tepadagi postlarda bu haqda foydali malumotlar bor ekan, lekin quyidagi savolning aniq javobini biladiganlar bormi:

Qonuniy jihatdan uzi chet elda bulgan holda, Uzbekistonga pasportni junatib u yerdan OVIR vizasini qildirsa buladimi?

Tepadagi postda taklif qilingandek bu yerdagi elchixonaga pasportni berib, elchixona orqali qildirishga hohish ham, niyat ham yuq. Undan kura masalan ukamga pasportimni junatsam, u OVIR vizasini quydira olsa bu qonuniy hisoblanadimi? Yani masalan Uzb.ga kirishda aeroportda "uzing chet elda turib OVIRni qanday quydirding?" degan etirozlar bulmaydimi?

"OVIR vizasi faqat Uzb.dan chiqish uchun kerak, uzing chet elda bulsang yangi OVIR olib nima qilasan" deyishinglar mumkin. Lekin uning ham sababi bor. Masalan deylik Rossiyaga bormoqchiman, lekin Uzb.ga bormayman. Bu mavzudagi postlarga kura bunday holda OVIR vizaning muddati utgan bulsa, Rossiyaning chegarasidan chiqarishmaydi, Uzb.ga borib OVIRni yangilab kel deyishadi?

Qisqasi tepadagi savolning aniq javobini bilganlar bulsa yozvorsanglar ajoyib bulardi. Javob tajribaga tayangan bulsa undan ham a'lo. Rahmat.

[Pythagor]

Tepadagi postlarda bu haqda foydali malumotlar bor ekan, lekin quyidagi savolning aniq javobini biladiganlar bormi:

Qonuniy jihatdan uzi chet elda bulgan holda, Uzbekistonga pasportni junatib u yerdan OVIR vizasini qildirsa buladimi?

Tepadagi postda taklif qilingandek bu yerdagi elchixonaga pasportni berib, elchixona orqali qildirishga hohish ham, niyat ham yuq. Undan kura masalan ukamga pasportimni junatsam, u OVIR vizasini quydira olsa bu qonuniy hisoblanadimi? Yani masalan Uzb.ga kirishda aeroportda "uzing chet elda turib OVIRni qanday quydirding?" degan etirozlar bulmaydimi?

"OVIR vizasi faqat Uzb.dan chiqish uchun kerak, uzing chet elda bulsang yangi OVIR olib nima qilasan" deyishinglar mumkin. Lekin uning ham sababi bor. Masalan deylik Rossiyaga bormoqchiman, lekin Uzb.ga bormayman. Bu mavzudagi postlarga kura bunday holda OVIR vizaning muddati utgan bulsa, Rossiyaning chegarasidan chiqarishmaydi, Uzb.ga borib OVIRni yangilab kel deyishadi?

Qisqasi tepadagi savolning aniq javobini bilganlar bulsa yozvorsanglar ajoyib bulardi. Javob tajribaga tayangan bulsa undan ham a'lo. Rahmat.Qonun jihatidan OVVIR vizasini o'zingiz borib olishingiz kerak.
OVVIRdagilar sizni talab qilishadi.
Bittasi oldi uzbga bormasdan hasan husanlar edi, husan ham rosiiyada edi, hasan boshqa davlatda edi, OVVIRdagilar hasanni suragandan keyin husan uzb.ga borib hasanman deb oberib hasanga yuborvorgandi.

yana bitta narsa, chet elda aeroportdagi kirish pechati yo'g'u, qanday kirding deb bosh og'riqlar bo'lgandi. vizangni uzaytirmaymiz, sen uzbga borib elchixonadan viza olsang keyin uzaytirib beramiz dyishgandi lekin qanaqadir advokatlar yollab vizasini olgandi.

pul bilan qilsa bo'sa kerak menimcha.

[Brigadir]

Qonun jihatidan OVVIR vizasini o'zingiz borib olishingiz kerak.
OVVIRdagilar sizni talab qilishadi.
Bittasi oldi uzbga bormasdan hasan husanlar edi, husan ham rosiiyada edi, hasan boshqa davlatda edi, OVVIRdagilar hasanni suragandan keyin husan uzb.ga borib hasanman deb oberib hasanga yuborvorgandi.

yana bitta narsa, chet elda aeroportdagi kirish pechati yo'g'u, qanday kirding deb bosh og'riqlar bo'lgandi. vizangni uzaytirmaymiz, sen uzbga borib elchixonadan viza olsang keyin uzaytirib beramiz dyishgandi lekin qanaqadir advokatlar yollab vizasini olgandi.

pul bilan qilsa bo'sa kerak menimcha.

Mani bilishim bo'yicha Uzbga borish shart emas OVIR uchun ham passportni yangilash uchun ham. Man ham shunaqa deb o'ylab yurardim, lekin yaqinda bitta tanishim posolstva orqali passpotini yangilab oldi.Olganida OVIR ham bor ekan. 3-4oy kutishga tog'ri kelarkanu lekin shu davlatdan chiqmasa passportni keragi ham yo'q. Lekin o'sha davlatni VISAsi bo'lmas ekan passportda. Uzbga borganda Social Security Cardni ko'rsatsa bez problem VISAni qo'yib berisharkan. Man ham shunaqa qilib jo'natvordim passportimni..
Omadlar;)

[Pythagor]

Mani bilishim bo'yicha Uzbga borish shart emas OVIR uchun ham passportni yangilash uchun ham. Man ham shunaqa deb o'ylab yurardim, lekin yaqinda bitta tanishim posolstva orqali passpotini yangilab oldi.Olganida OVIR ham bor ekan. 3-4oy kutishga tog'ri kelarkanu lekin shu davlatdan chiqmasa passportni keragi ham yo'q. Lekin o'sha davlatni VISAsi bo'lmas ekan passportda. Uzbga borganda Social Security Cardni ko'rsatsa bez problem VISAni qo'yib berisharkan. Man ham shunaqa qilib jo'natvordim passportimni..
Omadlar;)
elchixona orqali xohish ham niyatam yuq degani uchun etudim, elchixona bilan olish mumkin busa kere bunisini eshitganidim.

[cujoramirez]

Hi, i met a girl from uzbekistan about little more than 2 weeks ago and decided to visit her right away. After 1 week together and falling in love we decided to have her visit me in italy to have a chance to get to know each other better.

Now i know she needs to get a tourist visa from the italian embassy in uzbekistan, which i hope is not a problem to get.
But talking with her friends looks like she needs an exit visa of some kind. I also browsed this forum and read about fiancee visa, which is not our case since we recently met.
Can she get a tourist exit visa so she can spend a few months with me in italy? if so, where and how to get it? how long will it take to obtain such visa?

thanks in advance for you help

[Googler]

Hi, i met a girl from uzbekistan about little more than 2 weeks ago and decided to visit her right away. After 1 week together and falling in love we decided to have her visit me in italy to have a chance to get to know each other better.

Now i know she needs to get a tourist visa from the italian embassy in uzbekistan, which i hope is not a problem to get.
But talking with her friends looks like she needs an exit visa of some kind. I also browsed this forum and read about fiancee visa, which is not our case since we recently met.
Can she get a tourist exit visa so she can spend a few months with me in italy? if so, where and how to get it? how long will it take to obtain such visa?

thanks in advance for you help

If you g-friend has never travelled to outside of Uzbekistan, certainly she has to go to the local OVIR (a department of Ministry of Interior that manages citizens' exit and entry issues) that sticks on her passport '2 years permission' to travel abroad. After getting the stick-permission she will be eligible to apply for a tourist or any types of visas.

[cujoramirez]

Hi Googler,
thanks for your answer, do you know where she has to go to get it? how much does it cost and how long does it take?
She lives in Almalik but if in Tashkent things are faster she might go there.

thanks again

p.s. is there any reason why they could deny this OVIR visa to her?

[The Reaper]

Hi Googler,
thanks for your answer, do you know where she has to go to get it?

As far as I know, she has to go to OVIR office responsible for her respective area of residency.

how much does it cost and how long does it take?

I'm not sure about the price. As far as duration of processing goes, it can last up to 14-21 days, but if you give some "extra cash" or have necessary contacts, they can get it done in about 5-7 days.

p.s. is there any reason why they could deny this OVIR visa to her?

They might have grounds for denial of a visa under these circumstances:
a) Criminal record
b) Access to government classified materials
c) Current or former member of police/security services
d) Listed as a "person of particular concern"
e) An outstanding arrest warrant

Good luck,

TR

[Googler]

Hi Googler,
thanks for your answer, do you know where she has to go to get it? how much does it cost and how long does it take?
She lives in Almalik but if in Tashkent things are faster she might go there.
thanks again


As it has been already mentioned above, she has to go to the local OVIR as well as UVD (Department of Interior) of Tashkent Region.

If you speak Russian read this regarding terms of getting this stick-visa:

Для оформления выезда за границу граждане РУ обращаются в органы внутренних дел по месту жительства с заполненной анкетой-заявлением установленной формы и предъявлением паспорта. Органы внутренних дел рассматривают анкету-заявление гражданина РУ в 15-дневный срок и проставляют в его паспорте стикер разрешительной записи для выезда за границу сроком на два года. В течение этого срока граждане могут выезжать за границу неоднократно без дополнительного обращения в органы внутренних дел для оформления выезда.

If she lives in Almalyk, it is under jurisdiction of Tashkent Region, consequently she is not eligible to get the OVIR visa in Tashkent. She can get it through her town's OVIR or UVD of Tashkent Region.

Here are phones I have googled through Uzbek net:
Управление въезда-выезда и гр. Главного управления внутренних дел г.Ташкента (133-24-25, 68-57-69) и Управления въезда-выезда и гражданства МВД РУз (132-65-70).

[cujoramirez]

wow thanks guys, you sure helped me alot.

I understand that the OVIR visa is good for two years, so i assume she can stay out of uzbekistan for that much. But the italian visa will expire after 3 months... will she be able to re-enter her country if the italian visa has expired?

My hope is that we get married in 3 to 5 months, therefore she will not need a visa to stay in italy, but i don't know what will happen in case she wants to visit her family in uzbekistan..

thanks again guys!

[MUHLIS]

wow thanks guys, you sure helped me alot.

I understand that the OVIR visa is good for two years, so i assume she can stay out of uzbekistan for that much. But the italian visa will expire after 3 months... will she be able to re-enter her country if the italian visa has expired?

My hope is that we get married in 3 to 5 months, therefore she will not need a visa to stay in italy, but i don't know what will happen in case she wants to visit her family in uzbekistan..

thanks again guys!
The OVIR or EXIT visa grants Uzbek citizens to legally leave the boundaries of the Republic of Uzbekistan during two years and it does not mean that she must return to RU after two years. She may return to Uzbekistan after 50 years if she wishes, but would need another exit visa to leave the country.

[Googler]

My hope is that we get married in 3 to 5 months, therefore she will not need a visa to stay in italy, but i don't know what will happen in case she wants to visit her family in uzbekistan..

thanks again guys!

This will be helpful for ur friend, I do trust she speaks Russian:

Документы и процедура бракосочетания в Италии Для заключения брака сначала необходимо обратиться в отдел регистрации актов гражданского состояния в муниципалитет по месту жительства в Италии. Здесь вы назначите день для принесения клятвы, которую вы произнесете перед работником итальянского ЗАГСа. При произнесении клятвы должны присуствовать два совершеннолетних свидетеля (если свидетели – иностранцы, они должны будут предоставить свой вид на жительство в Италии). Помните, что у вас есть возможность принести клятву в присутствии переводчика.
После принесенной клятвы, в течение 8 дней при вашем муниципалитете будут расклеены объявления о предстоящем заключении брака, и в этот момент будет определена дата вашего бракосочетания. Таким образом, у вас будет возможность все спокойно организовать.
Документы, необходимые иностранцам для заключения брака
Чтобы принести присягу и заключить брак, необходимо предоставить: годный паспорт; справку об отсутствии препятствий для вступления в брак, выданную консульством в Италии, с подписью работника консульства, заверенной в Префектуре*; и, если вступающий в брак проживает в Италии, справку о гражданском состоянии и о месте жительства.
Помните, что для принесения клятвы не требуется наличия у вас вида на жительство.
Подать запрос на итальянское гражданство, в связи с вступлением в брак с гражданином Италии
Иностранный гражданин, проживающий в Италии, может подавать запрос на гражданство в связи с вступлением в брак с гражданином Италии, через 6 месяцев проживания. А если иностранный супруг проживает за границей, то через три года после вступления в брак.
Необходимые документы: свидетельство о рождении (переведенное и легализованное), справка о несудимости (переведенная и легализованная), справка о месте жительства, справка о составе семьи, справка о гражданстве, выписка из акта бракосочетания, заверенная ксерокопия вида на жительство.
* Для запроса справки об отсутствии препятствий для вступления в брак, вам потребуется представить в консульство:

Заграничный паспорт и его ксерокопию;
Свидетельство о рождении и его ксерокопию;
Справку о семейном положении, выданную по месту прописки в вашей стране, с печатью «Апостиль» Министерства юстиции вашей страны;
Свидетельство о разводе (или свидетельство о смерти супруга) и ксерокопия, если запрашивающий состоял(а) прежде в браке;
Справка с места жительства о прописке в вашей стране и ксерокопия;
Оригинал документа будущего супруга запрашивающего и ксерокопия;
Заявление, заполненное будущим супругом запрашивающего (выдается консульством).

[cujoramirez]

This will be helpful for ur friend, I do trust she speaks Russian:

Документы и процедура бракосочетания в Италии Для заключения брака сначала необходимо обратиться в отдел регистрации актов гражданского состояния в муниципалитет по месту жительства в Италии. Здесь вы назначите день для принесения клятвы, которую вы произнесете перед работником итальянского ЗАГСа. При произнесении клятвы должны присуствовать два совершеннолетних свидетеля (если свидетели – иностранцы, они должны будут предоставить свой вид на жительство в Италии). Помните, что у вас есть возможность принести клятву в присутствии переводчика.
После принесенной клятвы, в течение 8 дней при вашем муниципалитете будут расклеены объявления о предстоящем заключении брака, и в этот момент будет определена дата вашего бракосочетания. Таким образом, у вас будет возможность все спокойно организовать.
Документы, необходимые иностранцам для заключения брака
Чтобы принести присягу и заключить брак, необходимо предоставить: годный паспорт; справку об отсутствии препятствий для вступления в брак, выданную консульством в Италии, с подписью работника консульства, заверенной в Префектуре*; и, если вступающий в брак проживает в Италии, справку о гражданском состоянии и о месте жительства.
Помните, что для принесения клятвы не требуется наличия у вас вида на жительство.
Подать запрос на итальянское гражданство, в связи с вступлением в брак с гражданином Италии
Иностранный гражданин, проживающий в Италии, может подавать запрос на гражданство в связи с вступлением в брак с гражданином Италии, через 6 месяцев проживания. А если иностранный супруг проживает за границей, то через три года после вступления в брак.
Необходимые документы: свидетельство о рождении (переведенное и легализованное), справка о несудимости (переведенная и легализованная), справка о месте жительства, справка о составе семьи, справка о гражданстве, выписка из акта бракосочетания, заверенная ксерокопия вида на жительство.
* Для запроса справки об отсутствии препятствий для вступления в брак, вам потребуется представить в консульство:

Заграничный паспорт и его ксерокопию;
Свидетельство о рождении и его ксерокопию;
Справку о семейном положении, выданную по месту прописки в вашей стране, с печатью «Апостиль» Министерства юстиции вашей страны;
Свидетельство о разводе (или свидетельство о смерти супруга) и ксерокопия, если запрашивающий состоял(а) прежде в браке;
Справка с места жительства о прописке в вашей стране и ксерокопия;
Оригинал документа будущего супруга запрашивающего и ксерокопия;
Заявление, заполненное будущим супругом запрашивающего (выдается консульством).

thank you very much googler, i am pasting your info and sending her an email...

i really appreciate all this help, hoping it'll get her to me asap...

[cujoramirez]

Bad news... :(

we managed to get ovir visa. which i thought was the most difficult part...
but the italian embassy in uzbekistan denied her the turist visa to come to italy.
Even though the papers were perfect...

I called the embassy asking why the denied the visa... and the answer was: "because we have the right to do so"
what the f..k!!!

Now i don't really know what to do. My lawyer is suggesting we try with turist visa for any schengen country...

Does any of you have any other suggestion?

thanks again...

[Googler]

but the italian embassy in uzbekistan denied her the turist visa to come to italy.
Even though the papers were perfect...


I think the Embassy/Consular officer suspected that she would not come back once she is in EU.

Let her apply for other EU Embassy/Consulate for a multiple visa (90 days). Once she gets it, first time she should enter the EU through the country the Embassy of which issued the visa, and from this EU country she will move to Italy and in this case she will be Perfect with EU immigration rules.

[Googler]

I think the Embassy/Consular officer suspected that she would not come back once she is in EU.

Let her apply for other EU Embassy/Consulate for a multiple visa (90 days). Once she gets it, first time she should enter the EU through the country the Embassy of which issued the visa, and from this EU country she will move to Italy and in this case she will be Perfect with EU immigration rules.

Under multiple visa (90 days) I mean a Shengen visa.

[cujoramirez]

Under multiple visa (90 days) I mean a Shengen visa.

yes i was actually thinking about applying for 1 week visa, each time in a different country until one gives the visa.

i think maybe 1 week is less suspicious...

[Googler]

yes i was actually thinking about applying for 1 week visa, each time in a different country until one gives the visa.

i think maybe 1 week is less suspicious...

Your g-friend should not indicate in her application that she is willing to visit her friend as she might be refused again.

Best way is to choose a nice travel company in Tashkent and a trip to France or Germany or Spain and she will get a C visa for 90 days and enter the country from the Consulate of which she got visa and having arrived in this country she will move to Italy. It is best, simple and legal decision.

Once again, she should indicate her purpose of visit to be tourism in the application. I do trust she will get the visa then.

[cujoramirez]

Your g-friend should not indicate in her application that she is willing to visit her friend as she might be refused again.

Best way is to choose a nice travel company in Tashkent and a trip to France or Germany or Spain and she will get a C visa for 90 days and enter the country from the Consulate of which she got visa and having arrived in this country she will move to Italy. It is best, simple and legal decision.

Once again, she should indicate her purpose of visit to be tourism in the application. I do trust she will get the visa then.

agree on the fact that i should not be inviting her anymore. Just a trip to one of those countries. Other problem: travel companies refuse to let her buy a trip, because she is too young.... :(

Even though i invited her, on the first request to the italian embassy, we stated that the purpose of the trip was for tourism...
but it didn't work...

[Googler]

atravel companies refuse to let her buy a trip, because she is too young

Is she minor?

[cujoramirez]

Is she minor?


no she is 19.

[Googler]

no she is 19.

I don't see any reasons for her to apply for a Shengen visa if she is 18 +.

Just advise her to find a respectful travel agency in Uzbekistan and she can get the visa. But she needs to prove that her trip expenses will be covered by herself (if she works) or her parents if she is a student.

[cujoramirez]

I don't see any reasons for her to apply for a Shengen visa if she is 18 +.

Just advise her to find a respectful travel agency in Uzbekistan and she can get the visa. But she needs to prove that her trip expenses will be covered by herself (if she works) or her parents if she is a student.

again i agree with you, but the first travel agency said.. sorry you are too young!

starting from monday she will try with all the travel agencies in tashkent, and at the same time, companies who offer "study" trips to foreign country to learn another language.

She is a student indeed, and her parents cannot prove they could cover her expenses. So i had her open a bank account where i put money.
Hope it works the same.

[UdachnicK]

Hi, i met a girl from uzbekistan about little more than 2 weeks ago and decided to visit her right away. After 1 week together and falling in love we decided to have her visit me in italy to have a chance to get to know each other better.

Now i know she needs to get a tourist visa from the italian embassy in uzbekistan, which i hope is not a problem to get.
But talking with her friends looks like she needs an exit visa of some kind. I also browsed this forum and read about fiancee visa, which is not our case since we recently met.
Can she get a tourist exit visa so she can spend a few months with me in italy? if so, where and how to get it? how long will it take to obtain such visa?

thanks in advance for you help

exit visa (OVIR) usually takes 7000 uzb sums, and 14 days.

if you (or your gf) want to get one earlier than 14days, PM me.

[MDB]

exit visa (OVIR) usually takes 7000 uzb sums, and 14 days.

if you (or your gf) want to get one earlier than 14days, PM me.

You can get one in 24 hours if you have right person, and it will cost you
just 100$...

[Пушкарева]

Zdes pro Ovir rech idyot? Mne nado budet renew moyu visu. What's the max and min possible wait time?

when i personally dealt with it (6 years ago) official wait time was 21 days. What about now?

thanks.

[cujoramirez]

exit visa (OVIR) usually takes 7000 uzb sums, and 14 days.

if you (or your gf) want to get one earlier than 14days, PM me.


OVIR visa is not a problem. We got it, even though i was thinking it was the hardest one to get...

it took more than 1 month but we got it

[Googler]

when i personally dealt with it (6 years ago) official wait time was 21 days. What about now?

According to mfa.uz:

Для оформления выезда за границу граждане РУ обращаются в органы внутренних дел по месту жительства с заполненной анкетой-заявлением установленной формы и предъявлением паспорта. Органы внутренних дел рассматривают анкету-заявление гражданина РУ в 15-дневный срок и проставляют в его паспорте стикер разрешительной записи для выезда за границу сроком на два года. В течение этого срока граждане могут выезжать за границу неоднократно без дополнительного обращения в органы внутренних дел для оформления выезда.
http://mfa.uz/rus/konsulskie_voprosi/soveti_dlya_puteshestvennikov/

Recently I was told it takes usually 10-20 days in Tashkent. As for other cities and provinces, no idea.

[cujoramirez]

I don't see any reasons for her to apply for a Shengen visa if she is 18 +.

Just advise her to find a respectful travel agency in Uzbekistan and she can get the visa. But she needs to prove that her trip expenses will be covered by herself (if she works) or her parents if she is a student.


we just had answer from german embassy... they say it's not even worth trying 'cause they'll never give her the visa.
All travel agencies we called asked how old she is and answered the same.

We are trying with study visa and the agency said she need a paper to prove that somebody from uzb is actually paying for her studies abroad...

what the **** is going on with this bullshit planet?

[Googler]

we just had answer from german embassy... they say it's not even worth trying 'cause they'll never give her the visa.

I can't understand why you have contacted the German Embassy or any other one?!

Moreover, you have not to contact the Embassy yourself, cause when they get to know that you are inviting a young girl they will never issue a visa. The German Embassy is right.

[cujoramirez]

I can't understand why you have contacted the German Embassy or any other one?!

Moreover, you have not to contact the Embassy yourself, cause when they get to know that you are inviting a young girl they will never issue a visa. The German Embassy is right.

No Googler of course she is doing it and i just tell her what to do.
And this time she didn't even say she was invited. She just asked for a tourist visa for 1 week.

And we tried with the german one because i have been told by my lawyer that it's one of the easiest ones where to try for tourist visa.

[Googler]

No Googler of course she is doing it and i just tell her what to do.
And this time she didn't even say she was invited. She just asked for a tourist visa for 1 week.

And we tried with the german one because i have been told by my lawyer that it's one of the easiest ones where to try for tourist visa.

What do you mean under 'you tried'?
You mean she has already submitted an application and the Embassy has refused in issuing a visa?

Before applying to any travel agency first check the Embassy's website if this travel agency is accredited by the Embassy or not? If it is she may get the visa easily through this agency.
In Moscow on the website of each Embassy of all countries the names of the accredited travel companies are listed and almost all people get the visas via these travel companies, cause the Embassies trust in these companies.

[cujoramirez]

What do you mean under 'you tried'?
You mean she has already submitted an application and the Embassy has refused in issuing a visa?

Before applying to any travel agency first check the Embassy's website if this travel agency is accredited by the Embassy or not? If it is she may get the visa easily through this agency.
In Moscow on the website of each Embassy of all countries the names of the accredited travel companies are listed and almost all people get the visas via these travel companies, cause the Embassies trust in these companies.

No the only application we submitted for now is the one at the italian embassy in tashkent. And they refused.
She went to the german one today to get the modules and to ask some infos. When they realized about her age, they told it was worthless to try.
They also told her to try with a study visa, but again she need to prove where she gets the money to travel.
We'll try anyway, but you know if they already said it's worthless to try, i don't have much of a hope.

I agree on what you said about an accredited travel agency. But besides all the travel agencies already said that she is too young.. please do check out this website and have a laugh..
www dot germanembassy dot uz
this is the website of the german embassy in tashkent. All the buttons don't work.. and if you scroll the page all the way down you'll see it's been hacked and you can find porno links and pictures...

Imagine how much they care about their job...

[Googler]

She went to the german one today to get the modules and to ask some infos. When they realized about her age, they told it was worthless to try...

As I've already mentioned she needn't go to the Embassy herself, cause:

1. If she wanna have a trip to EU she'd better apply through an accredited travel agency.
2. When she is applying herself for a visa the consular officer will automatically suspect she has someone in EU who is inviting her.
3. Embassies of the EC make decisions in issuing visas without personal interview. Very seldom they invite people for interview if applicants are travelling as tourists.
4. When she applies through the agency, the agency will enter her into a prospective group visiting the EC and the consular officers make usually positive decisions.
5. As she has gone to the German Embassy herself and it is not good, as all data about her were already entered into the Embassy's database and I'm afraid it will be hard for her to get visa at the German Embassy in future.
6. All consular officers are usually smart enough and well-trained and they can easily discover real intention of an applicant.

So she should try another Embassy and only via the accredited travel agency if she is willing to travel as a tourist.

[cujoramirez]

As I've already mentioned she needn't go to the Embassy herself, cause:

1. If she wanna have a trip to EU she'd better apply through an accredited travel agency.
2. When she is applying herself for a visa the consular officer will automatically suspect she has someone in EU who is inviting her.
3. Embassies of the EC make decisions in issuing visas without personal interview. Very seldom they invite people for interview if applicants are travelling as tourists.
4. When she applies through the agency, the agency will enter her into a prospective group visiting the EC and the consular officers make usually positive decisions.
5. As she has gone to the German Embassy herself and it is not good, as all data about her were already entered into the Embassy's database and I'm afraid it will be hard for her to get visa at the German Embassy in future.
6. All consular officers are usually smart enough and well-trained and they can easily discover real intention of an applicant.

So she should try another Embassy and only via the accredited travel agency if she is willing to travel as a tourist.

hello Googler...
1. travel agencies will not accept her request for a trip to europe because of her age. Are the ones we asked to accredited agencies? i don't know, but... did you check you the german embassy website???
2. i agree, but i can't see anything wrong with that!!!
3. true. that's exactly what happened with the italian embassy
4. looks like there aren't that many people going to visit europe
5. she went to the german embassy to get papers, but she did not apply for visa yet...
6. agree again... and... what the hell is wrong with a girl wanting to be with her boyfriend?!?!?

i don't know.. wouldn't want to sound tragic... but i feel like i don't belong to this place anymore

at this point i am thinking about going back to uzb and ask for a private chat with the italian ambassador...

[Googler]

hello Googler...
1. travel agencies will not accept her request for a trip to europe because of her age. Are the ones we asked to accredited agencies? i don't know, but... did you check you the german embassy website???
2. i agree, but i can't see anything wrong with that!!!
3. true. that's exactly what happened with the italian embassy
4. looks like there aren't that many people going to visit europe
5. she went to the german embassy to get papers, but she did not apply for visa yet...
6. agree again... and... what the hell is wrong with a girl wanting to be with her boyfriend?!?!?

i don't know.. wouldn't want to sound tragic... but i feel like i don't belong to this place anymore

at this point i am thinking about going back to uzb and ask for a private chat with the italian ambassador...

Well, what can I say....

I guess there is one possible way for her to get a schengen visa.
She can try with a travel company to get a Greece visa together with other tourists from Uzbekistan. Usually tourists are issued a 90 days Schengen multi-visa.

If she gets the visa you will have a good reason to meet her in Greece and will kill couple days in Greece Hotel together like "pre-honeymoon" and you both can move to Italy. :)

P.S. Just note all Embassies of Schengen countries are instructed to be careful in issueing visas to young girls.

[Kashif Khan]

@Googler greece visa is easy from Tashkent by tiurist companies????
BR
Kashif Khan

[Googler]

@Googler greece visa is easy from Tashkent by tiurist companies????
BR
Kashif Khan

I mean via a travel agency in Moscow...:)

To be honest, no idea whether there is Greece Embassy/Consulate in Uzbekistan.

[cujoramirez]

Well, what can I say....

I guess there is one possible way for her to get a schengen visa.
She can try with a travel company to get a Greece visa together with other tourists from Uzbekistan. Usually tourists are issued a 90 days Schengen multi-visa.

If she gets the visa you will have a good reason to meet her in Greece and will kill couple days in Greece Hotel together like "pre-honeymoon" and you both can move to Italy. :)

P.S. Just note all Embassies of Schengen countries are instructed to be careful in issueing visas to young girls.

Hi Googler,
why greece in particular and not a group travel to any other schengen country?
Greece in particular has no embassy in uzb. Just in moscow...

i am trying to do exactly what you described but starting from germany and holland

at the same time i am trying with a study visa for italy through an english school which has premises in italy...
this will be hard though because she is already in the italian embassy database with her previous request.

[Googler]

at the same time i am trying with a study visa for italy through an english school which has premises in italy...

If she learns Italian you can try with your Embassy for a short term study visa, if she learns German then via German Embassy and etc.

But not for English courses through Italian Embassy as it is not logical and she will be refused again.

Usually for learning English students visit UK or Malta at least.

She can try via German Embassy for English courses stating in her application that in Germany these courses are much more cheaper than in UK, but it is up to Embassy to make a decision.

[Googler]

Hi Googler,
why greece in particular and not a group travel to any other schengen country?
Greece in particular has no embassy in uzb. Just in moscow...


Because most part of the Greece budget is based on tourism and prices for tours to Greece are lower than to Spain, Italy and other Schengen states.

[Shambles]

Cujoramirez, if you talk to the italian ambassador in person and explain the issue, you would most probably get a visa for her... U just need to sacrifice some time and money...

[Vector]

may be there is a chance to obtain a visa if you hire a good lawyer to attend an interview with consule?! Once it helped my friend to get a visa to UK, who knows...

[cujoramirez]

If she learns Italian you can try with your Embassy for a short term study visa, if she learns German then via German Embassy and etc.

But not for English courses through Italian Embassy as it is not logical and she will be refused again.

Usually for learning English students visit UK or Malta at least.

She can try via German Embassy for English courses stating in her application that in Germany these courses are much more cheaper than in UK, but it is up to Embassy to make a decision.

it's an english school teaching italian in english (for non italian speaking students) and the premises are in italy.

couldn't find an italian school teaching italian with an agent in uzb

[cujoramirez]

Cujoramirez, if you talk to the italian ambassador in person and explain the issue, you would most probably get a visa for her... U just need to sacrifice some time and money...

I am planning to do it in 2 weeks. After we have an answer from a couple of embassies for study visa.

I am a salesman so i know how to talk to people. My doubt concerns whether i should say the truth or not... assuming this guy is available for a private appointment.

If i tell the truth he might answer me to go for marriage in uzb, which is a slow solution (6 months or more)

[cujoramirez]

may be there is a chance to obtain a visa if you hire a good lawyer to attend an interview with consule?! Once it helped my friend to get a visa to UK, who knows...


a lawyer in uzb or in italy?

[Vector]

a lawyer in uzb or in italy?

of course in Uzbekistan, he will be with your girlfriend during the interview.

[abucameron]

дорогие форумчане,

у меня такая ситуация возникла. собираюсь полететь на две недели домой в марте, и по долгу работы могу поехать только на последние две недели месяца. овировская виза у меня заканчивается 30 марта. я смогу, скажем, 28 марта улететь безприпятственно? конечно я, положа руку на сердце, обещнусь продлить визу в посольстве в ю.к, или вернутся через два дня для продления визы. :nod: :nod: :nod:

заниматься продлением визы не охота и не будет времени. овировской визы. к тому же, у меня осталась только одна чистая страничка в паспорте (а менять паспорт не хочется вдвойне).

кто-нибудь сталкивался с подобным? расскажите. в нете я не смогла найти абсолютно никакой полезной информации.

с нетерпением ждущая ответов,
crazy diamond

I am in your shoes now Crazy Diamond. Wanna go to UZB and exit with 2 days remaining to OVIR expiration. What did you do? Did you renew your OVIR? Or took a chance with the old one?

[hihik]

можно ли будет проставить овир на пасспорт истекаюшии в сентябре (примерно 7 месяцев до истечения)?
есть ли с етим "законные" заморочки или если договорится то можно?

[Africa]

можно ли будет проставить овир на пасспорт истекаюшии в сентябре (примерно 7 месяцев до истечения)?
есть ли с етим "законные" заморочки или если договорится то можно?
не совсем понял вопрос - можно ли поставить новый овировский штамп до истечения срока действия старого штампа?
если это твой вопрос, то нет. нельзя.

но даю 100% действующий совет. "потеряй" паспорт и при наличии "хороших" людей получи "чистый" паспорт. отдай его овиру. никто не будет рытся в базе данных. им легче просто поставить новый штамп. правда, там срок даётся на расмотрение заявки о потере и т.д., но его можно очень сильно сократить, законно!

[hihik]

не совсем понял вопрос - можно ли поставить новый овировский штамп до истечения срока действия старого штампа?
если это твой вопрос, то нет. нельзя.

net vopros ne v etom
kak ya skazal passport istekaet v sentyabre viza istekaet v mae a ovir uje istek, smogu li ya poluchit' ovir na etot pasport (za mesyac) i vposledstvii bez zamorochek viehat'?

[Googler]

можно ли будет проставить овир на пасспорт истекаюшии в сентябре (примерно 7 месяцев до истечения)?
есть ли с етим "законные" заморочки или если договорится то можно?

Согласно "Положению о паспорте гражданина РУз" - Паспорт за границей действителен на срок, указанный в нем. То есть, сможете.

[hihik]

Согласно "Положению о паспорте гражданина РУз" - Паспорт за границей действителен на срок, указанный в нем. То есть, сможете.

buduchi v uzbekistane???

kazhetsya nujno vsyu situyovinu razyansit' ..
ya hochu poletet' v uzbekistan
moy pasport istekaet v sentyabre, amerikanskaya viza istekaet v mae a ovir uje istek
VNIMANIE VOPROS: smogu li ya pri takih usloviyah prostavit' sebe noviy ovir v tashkente i vyletet' obratno v usa?

[corsair]

buduchi v uzbekistane???

kazhetsya nujno vsyu situyovinu razyansit' ..
ya hochu poletet' v uzbekistan
moy pasport istekaet v sentyabre, amerikanskaya viza istekaet v mae a ovir uje istek
VNIMANIE VOPROS: smogu li ya pri takih usloviyah prostavit' sebe noviy ovir v tashkente i vyletet' obratno v usa?

pochemu net?
nu skajut vam V OVIRe chto tipa nelzya, no u nas je narod narodlyubiviy, mojno s nimi dogovoritsya... ;)

[Googler]

buduchi v uzbekistane???

kazhetsya nujno vsyu situyovinu razyansit' ..
ya hochu poletet' v uzbekistan
moy pasport istekaet v sentyabre, amerikanskaya viza istekaet v mae a ovir uje istek
VNIMANIE VOPROS: smogu li ya pri takih usloviyah prostavit' sebe noviy ovir v tashkente i vyletet' obratno v usa?

Я уже Вам ответил.

Вы сейчас находитесь за границей. У Вас есть действующая виза до 05.2008. Паспорт действует до 09.2008.
Вы возвращаетесь в РУз и обращаетесь в органы внутренних дел по месту проживания и органы обязаны в течение 15 рабочих дней проставить стикер разрешительной записи для выезда за границу сроком на два года. Вы снова выезжаете в США при условии, что у Вас есть действующая многократная виза и паспорт, действительный для выезда за рубеж. Я не вижу никаких проблем.

Внизу официальная информация:

Памятка для узбекистанских путешественников, выезжающих за рубеж


Граждане Республики Узбекистан в соответствии с конституцией имеют свободное право выезжать за границу по частным и общественным делам, на постоянное место жительства, в качестве туристов, на учебу, работу, лечение, в командировки.

Для оформления выезда за границу граждане РУ обращаются в органы внутренних дел по месту жительства с заполненной анкетой-заявлением установленной формы и предъявлением паспорта. Органы внутренних дел рассматривают анкету-заявление гражданина РУ в 15-дневный срок и проставляют в его паспорте стикер разрешительной записи для выезда за границу сроком на два года. В течение этого срока граждане могут выезжать за границу неоднократно без дополнительного обращения в органы внутренних дел для оформления выезда.
http://mfa.uz/rus/konsulskie_voprosi/soveti_dlya_puteshestvennikov/

[hihik]

Я уже Вам ответил.
blagodaryu

[jasonnur]

bir do'stim 3 yil avval Turkiyaga ketgandi.Yaqinda Kaliningradga ishga o'tibdi Turk visa si bilan (turkiyaga olgan visa sini muhlati tugagan) Kaliningradga olga visa si mart oyida tugarkan..mart oyini oxirlarida o'zbekistonga kelmoqchi
savol: Kaliningradga visa ololadimi O'zbekistondan?

[Googler]

Если имеется в виду г. Калининград - то он является административным центром Калининградской области, являющейся субъектом Российской Федерации. Следовательно, гражданам Республики Узбекистан не требуется виза для въезда в данный город (субъект). После въезда, граждане РУз в течение 3-х рабочих дней должны встать на миграционный учет (Вам выдается отрывной бланк уведомления с отметкой почтовой службы о том, что Вы уведомили УФМС о своем временном пребывании). С этим отрывным бланком уведомления граждане РУз имеют право находится на территории РФ до 90 суток.



bir do'stim 3 yil avval Turkiyaga ketgandi.Yaqinda Kaliningradga ishga o'tibdi Turk visa si bilan (turkiyaga olgan visa sini muhlati tugagan) Kaliningradga olga visa si mart oyida tugarkan..mart oyini oxirlarida o'zbekistonga kelmoqchi
savol: Kaliningradga visa ololadimi O'zbekistondan?

[jasonnur]

Если имеется в виду г. Калининград - то он является административным центром Калининградской области, являющейся субъектом Российской Федерации. Следовательно, гражданам Республики Узбекистан не требуется виза для въезда в данный город (субъект). После въезда, граждане РУз в течение 3-х рабочих дней должны встать на миграционный учет (Вам выдается отрывной бланк уведомления с отметкой почтовой службы о том, что Вы уведомили УФМС о своем временном пребывании). С этим отрывным бланком уведомления граждане РУз имеют право находится на территории РФ до 90 суток.

Aka Googler rahmat,lekin shuni o'zbekchasini ham yozib berolasizmi agar xizmat bo'lmasa

[Googler]

Aka Googler rahmat,lekin shuni o'zbekchasini ham yozib berolasizmi agar xizmat bo'lmasa

Arzimeydi.:)

Agar dustingiz Uzbekiston fukarosi bulsa, Kaliningrad shahriga (Rossiya) visasiz kirish hukukiga ega. Uzbekiston va Rossiya urtasida visasiz shartnoma mavjud va shu shartnomaga asosan, siz Rossiyaga (Rossiyaliklar Uzbekistonga) visasiz kirasiz va shu kundan boshlab 3 (ish) kun ichida migratsion uchetga turishingiz kerak. Uchetga turganizdan keyin 90 kun yurovirasiz Rusiyada maza kib.:)

[El Greco]

Hi! I happened to have the same experience with u cujo, and it prooved to be a very hard task. To the girl was not given permission to travel abroad not only for a month,but for 5 whole years! I did invitation to her through italian embassy in Tashkent but it was declined shortly after. The girl had never travelled abroad so there is no chance of having violated visa terms of any country. If anybody knows someway to get her in my country even for 1 month, just let me know i will own you a favor.

[El Greco]

I mean via a travel agency in Moscow...:)

To be honest, no idea whether there is Greece Embassy/Consulate in Uzbekistan.

Googler there used to be a Greek consultancy in Tashkent but not anymore.

[El Greco]

I can go back to uzb, not for 2 months but enough to get married. We are both trying to keep this as last solution, because we feel we are sure we want it but we have been together only 1 week. And it doesn't seem smart to either of us getting married so soon.

But even if we did.... it takes 6 months in Italy to have a visa for a wife abroad to join the husband... :(:(:(

My friend, even family reunion applications have serious delay which may up to more than 1 year!

[El Greco]

Because most part of the Greece budget is based on tourism and prices for tours to Greece are lower than to Spain, Italy and other Schengen states.

Is it true that Uzbekistan is included in so called "black list" of countries for E.U?

[Googler]

Is it true that Uzbekistan is included in so called "black list" of countries for E.U?

Not those Uzbek citizens with ordinary passports. :)

[El Greco]

Not those Uzbek citizens with ordinary passports. :)

Ordinary passports? Meaning?

[Googler]

Ordinary passports? Meaning?

holders of passports who're not high public officers :)

[melo]

holders of passports who're not high public officers :)

And that does not even seem to be true anymore :rolleyes:

[El Greco]

Does anybody knows why to girl's passport was put a red stamp of 5 year denial of travelling abroad? I dont get it! She said she cant travel now. How can she fix this? By issuing a knew passport? I would like your opinion please

[El Greco]

And that does not even seem to be true anymore :rolleyes:

Yes, the fact is that the republic of Uzbekistan is trying to come closer to western republics

[rosefire]

Does anybody knows why to girl's passport was put a red stamp of 5 year denial of travelling abroad? I dont get it! She said she cant travel now. How can she fix this? By issuing a knew passport? I would like your opinion please
hmm, interesting. so it means that she can't travel abroad within in 5 years? why 5 years? what kind of visa did she apply and get denial for? usually, if smb gets refusal, they can reapply after 6 months, right?

I don't know visa related staff really well, but never heard about gting 5 years denial. but there is life time ban though

[El Greco]

hmm, interesting. so it means that she can't travel abroad within in 5 years? why 5 years? what kind of visa did she apply and get denial for? usually, if smb gets refusal, they can reapply after 6 months, right?

I don't know visa related staff really well, but never heard about gting 5 years denial. but there is life time ban though

Hi Rosefire! Thanks for answering back.
She told me what they told to her i mean the embassy, maybe it is so maybe not. Being a foreigner indid i dont know the laws of Uzbekistan. I assume that this prohibition has only to do with the Italian embassy and to whom they give visas.
She applied of guest visa for 1 month, after my official invitation sent to Italian embassy.

[rosefire]

Hi Rosefire! Thanks for answering back.
She told me what they told to her i mean the embassy, maybe it is so maybe not. Being a foreigner indid i dont know the laws of Uzbekistan. I assume that this prohibition has only to do with the Italian embassy and to whom they give visas.
She applied of guest visa for 1 month, after my official invitation sent to Italian embassy.
you can email the embassy and ask the reasons why they gave the refusal, I guess. at least they can tell you under which criteria they denied her visa request. sorry I am not much help on that;)

[El Greco]

you can email the embassy and ask the reasons why they gave the refusal, I guess. at least they can tell you under which criteria they denied her visa request. sorry I am not much help on that;)

I appreciate anybody's help by every possible way, even if not expert.
I know that the embassy has the the right to remain silent and not to give any details

[Пушкарева]

I guess, I've beaten all records with Ovir: got mine in half a day :mrgreen:


Please dont ask how, I cant reveal the contact. But yes, it was done in exchange for pay.

[Пушкарева]

Triple the amount. That's for urgency. :?

Vsyo, my mouth's zipped.

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hm,100$?



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