need advice regarding job in Uzb.

[sherif_a]

Salom Vatandoshlar!
Taqdir taqozosi bilan yaqinda ONa Vatanga qaytdim. Hozirda tirikchilik degandek 'normalniy' ish qidirmoqdaman. Shunga kimda qanaqa optimal maslahat bor. Nahotki Uzbekistonda hech bulmasa kam sonli bulsada "halol' pul bilan mumay oylik oladigan ish topib bulmasa. Agarda topib bulsa bunga qanday erishish mumkin.


P.S: Kasbim moliya bilan bogliq, istalgan ishni kirib olsam dundiraman, ya'ni eplab ketishimga kuzim etadi

[Amiri Turkiston]

Salom Vatandoshlar!
Taqdir taqozosi bilan yaqinda ONa Vatanga qaytdim. Hozirda tirikchilik degandek 'normalniy' ish qidirmoqdaman. Shunga kimda qanaqa optimal maslahat bor. Nahotki Uzbekistonda hech bulmasa kam sonli bulsada "halol' pul bilan mumay oylik oladigan ish topib bulmasa. Agarda topib bulsa bunga qanday erishish mumkin.


P.S: Kasbim moliya bilan bogliq, istalgan ishni kirib olsam dundiraman, ya'ni eplab ketishimga kuzim etadi

PWC, Deloite va E&Y ga CVni tashlab qo'ying
keyin agar chetni isidan bahramand bulgan odam bulsangiz o'zingiz ul-bul ochishingiz mumkin

ushanda sherikchilik qilmasdan hamma daromadni va javobgarlikni o'zingiz baham ko'rib o'tiraverasiz

mayli omad

[Prodigy]

eeeehh... qani edi bilganimda...

[ДЖИГИТ]

Salom Vatandoshlar!
Taqdir taqozosi bilan yaqinda ONa Vatanga qaytdim. Hozirda tirikchilik degandek 'normalniy' ish qidirmoqdaman. Shunga kimda qanaqa optimal maslahat bor. Nahotki Uzbekistonda hech bulmasa kam sonli bulsada "halol' pul bilan mumay oylik oladigan ish topib bulmasa. Agarda topib bulsa bunga qanday erishish mumkin.


P.S: Kasbim moliya bilan bogliq, istalgan ishni kirib olsam dundiraman, ya'ni eplab ketishimga kuzim etadi

Qo'lizda hunariz bormiz? Qo'lizdan nima keladi? Toshkentda moliyachilar ko'p, har yili qanchada-qancha moliyachilar bitiradi, uni ustiga o'zbechili degan narsa bor, qo'lizda hunariz bo'sa birovga yalinib va yollanib ish qilmaysiz, o'ziz o'ziz eplab yurasiz, agar hunariz bo'masa o'rganing, kechmas haliyam. Moliyadan tashqari nimani bilasiz, nimaga qiziqasiz, quruq oylikga qarab o'tiradigan zamon emas, hozir o'zbecha kapitalizm davridamiza. Moslashish kere.

[Пушкарева]

www.uzjob.com

[Maroon]

Salom Vatandoshlar!
Taqdir taqozosi bilan yaqinda ONa Vatanga qaytdim. Hozirda tirikchilik degandek 'normalniy' ish qidirmoqdaman. Shunga kimda qanaqa optimal maslahat bor. Nahotki Uzbekistonda hech bulmasa kam sonli bulsada "halol' pul bilan mumay oylik oladigan ish topib bulmasa. Agarda topib bulsa bunga qanday erishish mumkin.


P.S: Kasbim moliya bilan bogliq, istalgan ishni kirib olsam dundiraman, ya'ni eplab ketishimga kuzim etadi

Hozir qayerda halol pul bor uzi manga shu ayting?


To surive in this country you gotta compromise sometimes, because the country is not on your side. It is a battle here for survival, the last thing you should think about is halol money.

Esli tak posmotret, te dengi kotorie vi poluchite mogli i bit u cheloveka kotoriy zarabatoval ne s pravilnom putyom.

It is a cycle. :)

Anyway, good luck in your search.

[UzLand]

P.S: Kasbim moliya bilan bogliq, istalgan ishni kirib olsam dundiraman, ya'ni eplab ketishimga kuzim etadi

Билимингизга ишончнинг борлиги - бу яхши нарса.

[Arhimed]

www.uzjob.com

www.uzjobs.com
www.cv.uz

[Arhimed]

maslahatim agar western degree bo'lsa Qozoqistonga boring. Ham yaqin ham halol pul topish iloji bor.

[Maroon]

maslahatim agar western degree bo'lsa Qozoqistonga boring. Ham yaqin ham halol pul topish iloji bor.

Pul uzi halol mi?

[R.Azimov]

"Halol pul topish"- deganda hali hech kimning qo'liga tegmagan shiqqillagan yap yangi qog'ozlar nazarda tutilmayapti, birovning haqini yemasdan, halol mehnati evaziga topgan pul nazarda tutilayapti.

Hm... Bo'lar topsa! Qolaversa malakangiz ham yetarli ekan. Toshkentda menimcha imkoniyat kattaroq.
Bilaman siz bank ishini yaxshi ko'rmaysiz. Shunday ekan, najot faqat JV lardan menimcha.

Eng halol pul esa o'qituvchilikdan! Halol ishlasangiz barakasiniyam xudo beradi.

Ehhhh...
RA
Pul uzi halol mi?

[Vector]

Pul uzi halol mi?

:lol: pul topishiga qarab pul harom yoki halol boladi ;)

[Pythagor]

maslahatim agar western degree bo'lsa Qozoqistonga boring. Ham yaqin ham halol pul topish iloji bor.Ana xalos, qozog'iston deng...:D

Davlat ishlarida ishlagan odam oylikka kun kurish qiyin, lekin biror bir chet elni firmalari bilan birga ishlab yaxshi pul topsa buladi.

[Maroon]

:lol: pul topishiga qarab pul harom yoki halol boladi ;)

Chunarli. Masalam shu zarplatasini osa,a unga bergan odam harom qilib topgan bosa, halol barbirgayam boladimi?

[melo]

I don't think there is anyway to work in this world to avoid harom under these definitions. Wouldn't working with western firms be considered harom? And working for governments would also be considered harom. I think halol would be starving to death.

[Pythagor]

Chunarli. Masalam shu zarplatasini osa,a unga bergan odam harom qilib topgan bosa, halol barbirgayam boladimi?adashmasam siz etudiz quronni 3-4mattalab inglizchasini o'qib chiqqaman deb, baloniyam tuchmagan kurinas a? tushunsez bu savolni bermasdiz manimcha. :?

[Пушкарева]

This is what I recommend to all my friends in Uzb. Kazakhstan lacks human resources and is quite open to foreign labour. Besides, they pay quite decent salaries (of course depending on the sector, your degree and mental capacity).

What else impresses about the country is that they minimize rural vs urban bias, i.e. they try to develop the country evenly. Almaty and Astana are full of their own young potential, so go to KZ's other cities and you should not have probs finding a job.

Good luck!

maslahatim agar western degree bo'lsa Qozoqistonga boring. Ham yaqin ham halol pul topish iloji bor.

[Maroon]

adashmasam siz etudiz quronni 3-4mattalab inglizchasini o'qib chiqqaman deb, baloniyam tuchmagan kurinas a? tushunsez bu savolni bermasdiz manimcha. :?

Hmm...Please read my post carefully.

I read it in English (not all of it) and I did not find it that hard. If you are having problems, try getting the English Version.

[Pythagor]

uzr aniq esda yo'g'idi.

[Gateway]

Salom Vatandoshlar!
Taqdir taqozosi bilan yaqinda ONa Vatanga qaytdim. Hozirda tirikchilik degandek 'normalniy' ish qidirmoqdaman. Shunga kimda qanaqa optimal maslahat bor. Nahotki Uzbekistonda hech bulmasa kam sonli bulsada "halol' pul bilan mumay oylik oladigan ish topib bulmasa. Agarda topib bulsa bunga qanday erishish mumkin.


P.S: Kasbim moliya bilan bogliq, istalgan ishni kirib olsam dundiraman, ya'ni eplab ketishimga kuzim etadi

Og'ayni Welcome to Uzbekistan!
Siz qidirayotgan ish deyarli yo'q. Chunki bizda odatda Halol va Katta oylik bir biriga mos kelmaydigan tushunchalar. Bo'lsa ham juda kam.
Siz o'z kasbingiz bilan International Organizations larga ishlashiz mumkin. Masalan, WB, IDB, ADB, UNDP etc. Lekin u erga kirish ham tanish binish.
O'zingizni biznesizi oching.

[corsair]

hm...
is it really possible to find "the job" in uzbekistan?

[EZOP]

Pul uzi halol mi?

odamlar halol pulni harom qilishi mumkin. pul odamni emas.umuman payg'ambarimiz zamonida ham pul bo'lgan.yana Olloh biladi.

[EZOP]

hush kelibsiz.ish topishda qiynalishiz mumkin lekin topsa bo'ladi.

[Prodigy]

Hozir qayerda halol pul bor uzi manga shu ayting?


... the last thing you should think about is halol money.



Realist bulib kurinaman desangiz ham bu ibora notugri. Chunki Toshkentda katta miqdorda "halol money" topsa buladi, shunchaki bunday imkoniyat haddan tashqari kam. Personally, I would not think about "halol money" as a last thing. I used to earn those kinds of "non-halol money" some time ago. I learned a lot negative after such experience. Ya ne isklyuchayu, chto mogu povtorit to je samoye posle vozvrasheniya, no nikogda ne podumayu o "halol money" v poslednyuyu ochered.

[Maroon]

Realist bulib kurin man desangiz ham bu ibora notugri. Chunki Toshkentda katta miqdorda "halol money" topsa buladi, shunchaki bunday imkoniyat haddan tashqari kam. Personally, I would not think about "halol money" as a last thing. I used to earn those kinds of "non-halol money" some time ago. I learned a lot negative after such experience. Ya ne isklyuchayu, chto mogu povtorit to je samoye posle vozvrasheniya, no nikogda ne podumayu o "halol money" v poslednyuyu ochered.


The point of the post that you quoted was that if you want to earn good and enough money in Uzbekistan then there is no way you will earn this amount of money the halal way. The government cheats on the people and a lot cheat back. So if doing some business which is legal generally and is "illegal" in Uzbekistan but you still do it though in a sane country there is nothing wrong about it but in Uzbekistan you have to find other "illegal" ways to do it. Would not that be considered as haram? Because you are "cheating" on the government whereas in other countries it would not be considered unlawful. You know what I mean??

Plus,is not when earning halal money it has to come from an halal source as well, and halal transaction?

Anyway, if any one knows, would appreciate the answer.


Regarding sherif, I think he should consult with his Imam or something.

[hojiaka]

Chunarli. Masalam shu zarplatasini osa,a unga bergan odam harom qilib topgan bosa, halol barbirgayam boladimi?

men bir boy odamni uyida yer chopsam. uni darahtlarini payvandlab parvarish qilsam, peshonamdan ter chiqsa, mehnat qilib charchasam va kunning ohirida osha boy odam menga 1000 sum pul bersa u qanday qilib topganidan qattiy nazar bu pul manga halol chunki man mehnat qildim. va u odamni qanday qilib bu pulni topganini kozim bilan korganim yoq.
huddi shu misolni kengroq sferada ham qollash mumkin.
halol luqma, halol pul hatto dunyo bundan ming marotaba rasvo iflos bolib ketganda ham birinchi o'rinda turish kerak.

homilador ayol bozorda bir dona uzumni soramasdan olib yeganligi haqida hikoya eshitganmisiz ?
adashmasam "Anor" degan hikoya ham bor (kim yozganligi esimdan chiqdi)

Siz Farzandingizga Harom pul orqali topilgan ovqatni yedirarmidiz ?

On: Dustim qaytib borib osha yerda ishlayman deganingiz o'zi katta gap. Imkon bolsa tanish bilishlar orqali biror joyga joylashishga harakat qiling. www.alumni.state.gov sahifasida ham O'rta Osio dagi ish vacansiyalari haqida habarlar bolib turadi. Chet el korhonalari, chet el Elchihonalari web sahifalarini tekshiring imkon boricha Ollohni har bir ishida ezgulik bor
Omad yor bo'lsin
P.S Uzjobs.com is Useless...

[munisa]

Plus,is not when earning halal money it has to come from an halal source as well, and halal transaction?

Anyway, if any one knows, would appreciate the answer.



If you know that the source is haram, then your money is also haram, BUT if you don't know it, then its halal. The idea of first EARNING that money through the halal way still applies.

[melo]

If you know that the source is haram, then your money is also haram, BUT if you don't know it, then its halal. The idea of first EARNING that money through the halal way still applies.

So you are saying it is best to not know where your money is coming from. So basically it is halal to be ignorant? :shock:

[Black]

Guys, don't make the thread halal-haram discussion.
Of course, there are, still ways to make halal money in Uzbekistan (Alhamdulillah). It may be not much money, but there is enough opportunity to earn halal money which is enough for one family.

Sherif, Allohga tavakkal qiling va yurtingizga qayting. To'g'ri halol yo'l bilan birdan boyib ketmasligingiz mumkin, yoki dastlabki vaqtlarda hatto o'zingizga ham yetmasligi mumkin topgan pulingiz. Lekin keyinchalik asta sekin sharoitni, muomalani va qilayotgan ishingizni sirini o'rganishingiz orqali ishlab topayotgan pulingizni ham ko'paytirishingiz mumkin. Musulmonni ishi Allohga tavakkal qilish va Allohdan chin dildan so'rash.

Sizga maslahatim tanishlaringizga (qarindosh, do'st, va h.k.) murojaat qiling, ular bilan maslahatlashing, kerak bo'lsa ularni qo'lida ishlang. Vaqt o'tishi bilan sharoitni va qilayotgan ishingizni sirlarini yahshilab o'rganib olsangiz keyin alohida ajralib chiqishingiz mumkin. Dastlab kimnidir qo'lida ishlash ham, kimdandir ish o'rganishni ham foydasi katta.

Eng asosiysi Allohdan so'rashni esdan chiqarmang. Allohga hammasi oson.

[munisa]

So you are saying it is best to not know where your money is coming from. So basically it is halal to be ignorant? :shock:

its stupid to be ignorant. can't give it another name "oh well, i know that the source of my income is haram, but lets pretend i don't know it" :rolleyes:

[Amiri Turkiston]

hudoga shukur shu kungacha HALOL PUL topib keldik
buyog'iga ham HALOLIdan qismasin'

agar yahshi kasbni egasi bulsangiz: ul-bul joydan albatta ish topiladi de hullas

HAROM pul burningizdan buloq bulib chiqadi- shunisi ham bor

[Arhimed]

hudoga shukur shu kungacha HALOL PUL topib keldik
buyog'iga ham HALOLIdan qismasin'

agar yahshi kasbni egasi bulsangiz: ul-bul joydan albatta ish topiladi de hullas

HAROM pul burningizdan buloq bulib chiqadi- shunisi ham bor

harom bo'shida yo'qadi albatta, ammo keyin bir joydan teshib chiqadi

[Prodigy]

harom bo'shida yo'qadi albatta, ammo keyin bir joydan teshib chiqadi

Prichyom, PA-LYUBOMU teshib chiqadi...

[rosefire]

hmm, Kazakhstanga boring deng. bu akamiz O'zbekistondan ish qidirayaptilar ekanku. bu yahshi. Qachongacha yahshi kadrlar bosh qa davlatlarga ketishlari kerak. hamma ketaversa o'zbekistonda kim qoladi qiziqmisizlar? yahshi ishlar bor o'zda ham faqat ozgina effort qisangiz topasiz.

omad
This is what I recommend to all my friends in Uzb. Kazakhstan lacks human resources and is quite open to foreign labour. Besides, they pay quite decent salaries (of course depending on the sector, your degree and mental capacity).

What else impresses about the country is that they minimize rural vs urban bias, i.e. they try to develop the country evenly. Almaty and Astana are full of their own young potential, so go to KZ's other cities and you should not have probs finding a job.

Good luck!

[Arhimed]

qozoqistonda Residence permit olish kerak. 1-2 oy ketadi olishga deb eshitganman

[Warrior]

Salom Vatandoshlar!
Taqdir taqozosi bilan yaqinda ONa Vatanga qaytdim. Hozirda tirikchilik degandek 'normalniy' ish qidirmoqdaman. Shunga kimda qanaqa optimal maslahat bor. Nahotki Uzbekistonda hech bulmasa kam sonli bulsada "halol' pul bilan mumay oylik oladigan ish topib bulmasa. Agarda topib bulsa bunga qanday erishish mumkin.


P.S: Kasbim moliya bilan bogliq, istalgan ishni kirib olsam dundiraman, ya'ni eplab ketishimga kuzim etadi

Mo'ljalingiz qancha o'zi? Qualificationga qarab oyiga $500 gacha ish topish mumkin. $1000 dan yuqori ish juda kam, raqobat esa katta. O'zingiz biznes qilsangiz bo'ladi, lekin unga kapital kerak va shunga yarasha risk bor. Agar "risk averse" bo'lsangiz, unda qanoat qilib kamroq oylikka ham oila tebratib tursa bo'ladi, Inshoolloh barakasi bo'ladi.

[Warrior]

hmm, Kazakhstanga boring deng. bu akamiz O'zbekistondan ish qidirayaptilar ekanku. bu yahshi. Qachongacha yahshi kadrlar bosh qa davlatlarga ketishlari kerak. hamma ketaversa o'zbekistonda kim qoladi qiziqmisizlar? yahshi ishlar bor o'zda ham faqat ozgina effort qisangiz topasiz.

omad

Singlim, bizda bitta dona yahshi kadr bor. Shuni o'zi yetadi.

[Prodigy]

hmm, Kazakhstanga boring deng. bu akamiz O'zbekistondan ish qidirayaptilar ekanku. bu yahshi. Qachongacha yahshi kadrlar bosh qa davlatlarga ketishlari kerak. hamma ketaversa o'zbekistonda kim qoladi qiziqmisizlar? yahshi ishlar bor o'zda ham faqat ozgina effort qisangiz topasiz.

omad

"Uzbekiston-Vatanim manim" deb... aeroportni uzida uje uzingizga kelasiz. Afsus. Hozir Uzbekistonni uylash ikkinchi uringa chiqib qolgan, pochti hamma "survival" ni uylab yurishibti. Nafaqat oilani tebratish, balki ota onangizga yordam bera olish (including financial), aka-uka, singil deganlaridek. Undan tashqari yahshi dustlaringiz, albatta bularga faqatgina moliyaviy yordam emas, boshqalari ham kirib ketadi, ammo... bora-bora..moliyaga tiqilib keladi. Hudo hohlasa Ozbekistonga ham yahshi kunlar keladi -- samoye glavnoye TINCHLIK bulsin. Threadni cohgan odamga esa - bardam buling. Bir ikki yilni ichida obyazatelno u bu ish chiqib qoladi. A mojet i ranshe.