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Arhimed
02-04-2007, 08:31 PM
I heart that getting employment in UNDP/Uzbek office works out through tanish-bilsih or Money. Is it correct? Does anybody know anything about this?

elDoraDo
02-04-2007, 08:47 PM
Not sure for Money part, sounds absurd
But tanish bilish can be discussed, given...
A person has participated in a project, has participated in a lot of projects. Consequently people there now know him, and he knows the structure better than any other person who hasnt been there yet. So would accepting that person to a permanent or long termed position be - tanish bilish or consideration of /relevant/ experience?

Arhimed
02-04-2007, 08:51 PM
elDorado,

Siz UNDPda ishlagamisiz?

elDoraDo
02-04-2007, 09:33 PM
Buni bunda aloqasi yoq-ku! Men UNDP ni nazarda tutmadim, bu tizim deyarli hamma yerda bor narsa. EU Comission, WTO Secretariat, istagan davlat vedomosti. Men aytmoqchi bolgan misolda (hoh u tanish bilishchilik hoh boshqa usul bolsin) - tanishini kochadan olib elib otkazib quyishdan ozgina farq qiladi. Unda ish orqali tanilgan insonga moyillik korsatish nazarda tutilgan.

Arhimed
02-04-2007, 09:40 PM
gapizda jon bor ammo pul bilan ham gaplashgan caselar ham bo'r ekan

elDoraDo
02-04-2007, 09:42 PM
again

Not sure for Money part, sounds absurd

You can explain it in details. and if you want, people will write here wether it is believable or just another rumor to discredit UNDP.

melo
02-04-2007, 09:44 PM
It's probably true but you just do the best you can and hope for the best. You can't control everything and my best advice is to live your life following your beliefs and morals and hope for the best. :cool:

Arhimed
02-04-2007, 09:46 PM
again


You can explain it in details. and if you want, people will write here wether it is believable or just another rumor to discredit UNDP.

It is fact. I will pm you later.

UzLand
02-04-2007, 10:19 PM
Not money, but tanish-bilish or what they call it - networking is a key for any large international organizations like World Bank, IFC, UN...

melo
02-04-2007, 10:21 PM
Not money, but tanish-bilish or what they call it - networking is a key for any large international organizations like World Bank, IFC, UN...

I think this is how almost every job in every orgaization works everywhere. I don't think anybody wold call it corruption though.

UzLand
02-04-2007, 10:28 PM
I think this is how almost every job in every orgaization works everywhere. I don't think anybody wold call it corruption though.

But it is one form of corruption:)

Arhimed
02-04-2007, 10:31 PM
I think this is how almost every job in every orgaization works everywhere. I don't think anybody wold call it corruption though.

Ha birodar unaqada halol joy qolmadida! Halol yashamyman deganni ahvoliga voy ekanda a?

inDecision
02-04-2007, 11:17 PM
Not sure for Money part, .....

In other words it is just networking. It is ok everywhere, not corruption

anticipator
02-04-2007, 11:33 PM
ХАааа биродарлар "коррупция" деган бало кириб бормаган тешиги колмади. Хамма ерда таниш-билишчилик, порахурлик, олди-берди...

Яшириб нима килдим, мен хам бир креслони эгаллаб олиб роса сокка килиш ниятим бор... булмаса катта шахарда нима килиб гандираклаб юрибмиз ;)

Arhimed
02-04-2007, 11:49 PM
Halolni ko'zlang, kam bo'lmaysiz!

UzLand
02-05-2007, 08:43 AM
ХАааа биродарлар "коррупция" деган бало кириб бормаган тешиги колмади. Хамма ерда таниш-билишчилик, порахурлик, олди-берди...

Яшириб нима килдим, мен хам бир креслони эгаллаб олиб роса сокка килиш ниятим бор... булмаса катта шахарда нима килиб гандираклаб юрибмиз ;)

Бу янги хол эмас. Коррупция одам бунедга келгандан бери булган.

Вот прикол.

Тот, кто не берет деньги, возьмет большие деньги.

Gareeb
02-05-2007, 08:50 AM
ХАааа биродарлар "коррупция" деган бало кириб бормаган тешиги колмади. Хамма ерда таниш-билишчилик, порахурлик, олди-берди...

Яшириб нима килдим, мен хам бир креслони эгаллаб олиб роса сокка килиш ниятим бор... булмаса катта шахарда нима килиб гандираклаб юрибмиз ;)

Buyuk Poraxo'r bo'lib etishish niyatiz bor ekanda:)

HustleR
02-05-2007, 08:50 AM
I heart that getting employment in UNDP/Uzbek office works out through tanish-bilsih or Money. Is it correct? Does anybody know anything about this?

ishga kirgiz bormidi UNDP ga Arhimedaka ? tanishlar bor atak. (jk) :)

Gobustan
02-05-2007, 02:44 PM
When the delegation of the Ministry of Education of Norway visited to our country, our journalists asked him such a question: "Is there corruption in education in your country?"
The man had not understood question.
He had asked what the relationship between corruption and education was . He was shocked hear being of corruption in education ((((-:

Royal
02-05-2007, 02:49 PM
When the delegation of the Ministry of Education of Norway visited to our country, our journalists asked him such a question: "Is there corruption in education in your country?"
The man had not understood question.
He had asked what the relationship between corruption and education was . He was shocked hear being of corruption in education ((((-:
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Prodigy
02-05-2007, 11:33 PM
I heart that getting employment in UNDP/Uzbek office works out through tanish-bilsih or Money. Is it correct? Does anybody know anything about this?

Uzbek UNDP da tanish bilish bulishi albatta keark. Bulmasam short listingga tushmay qolish havfi 90% (only if you do not have outstanding background in poverty reduction, non-government, non profit projects and etc). Toshkentda bir ikki marta topshirib kurganman, short listing bulmaganman-u lekin feedback olgan edim. Usha administrative assistanti aytgan edi " sizga ozgina podderjka kerak ofisimizning ichida. Our boss gave us a limit of 10 people to shortlist, so virtually all these people are someone to our office workers". Shunaqa gaplar. Networking corruption emas. Bu - pure art. Agar odamlar bilan kelisha olishni bilsang, ahmoq bulsang ham Goldman Sachsga olishadi. Bunaqa example lar kup. Usha Uzbek UNDP da ham lobotryaslar yetarli.

Hullas aka Arkhimed, Hustler ni gapiga quloq soling va tanishlarini sihlating... (restoran, sauna, choyhona u yogini uzingiz bilarsizzz:)))

Arhimed
02-05-2007, 11:41 PM
tanishlarini sihlating... (restoran, sauna, choyhona u yogini uzingiz bilarsizzz:)))


Sihlaymiz :lool:


Birodar, man shunaqa ekan deb eshitdim holos.
Bu ham porani bir yo'lida tog'rimi: restoran, sauna va boshqa kayfu ishrat

Prodigy
02-06-2007, 03:32 AM
Sihlaymiz :lool:


Birodar, man shunaqa ekan deb eshitdim holos.
Bu ham porani bir yo'lida tog'rimi: restoran, sauna va boshqa kayfu ishrat

Уважаемый Архимед! За "Отвечаю!" по-любому не получится. Слишком уж сложно вы замутили: Пора, Коррупция, Кайфу ишрат. Вы же можете представить, что все эти мероприятия это всего лишь ваша искренняя благодарность за то, что Вам помогли. А то, что эти люди, после того как напьются "чая" в ресторане, "искупаются" в сауне и в конце ещё закурят "трубку мира" где-нибудь в подъезде - не должно Вас смущать. У них свой маленький мир - мир развлечений и разврата, где постоянная финансовая подпитка просто необходимость. Они привыкли так жить - мы нет (скромно сказал автор поста, потупив взор). Се ля ви Архимед! СЕ ЛЯ ВИ! Лучше давайте начните искать контакты. АСАП

Odildustov
02-06-2007, 04:32 AM
UNDP ga joylashish uchun albatta skill kerak, lekin sizdagi skill hozirda uzbekistondagilani kupchiligida bor. Uzbekistondagi eng shaffof chet el idoralari ham vaqt utishi mobaynida hozirgi kunda "uzbeklashib" borayopti. yuqorida aytgan 10% podderjkasi bu ularga ajratilgan pora va qolgan sauna restorant yoki boshqalari naqd bulmagan pul kurinishi. Baribir uzbekligimizga boramiz-da, kurinib turgan pora yoki corruptionni yuq bu natural art deb tugirlavoramiz.:D . Kurdim usha (undp ichidagi)natural art shaklidagi recommendationlaringni