US embassy Tashkent

[melo]

Can anyone explain the need for a US embassy in Tashkent? :? Why do they need such a large building and what are they actually doing there? At most they need a consul or they could just have one embassy in Almaty for all of central asia. Any ideas?

[Royal]

Can anyone explain the need for a US embassy in Tashkent? :? Why do they need such a large building and what are they actually doing there? At most they need a consul or they could just have one embassy in Almaty for all of central asia. Any ideas?
in short:
Uzbekistan is not part of Kazakstan, it is independant country...

if you don't like them just don't go there...

[melo]

in short:
Uzbekistan is not part of Kazakstan, it is independant country...

if you don't like them just don't go there...

I am more concerned with what they are doing. Whether I go there is not important.

[UzbekGirlie]

They serve US citizens that are visiting Uzb. They also process visas for uzbek citizens and were addressing the needs of US soldiers while US had a base in Uzb. Most countries that are sovereign have foreign embassies for foreign relation purposes...

[melo]

They serve US citizens that are visiting Uzb. They also process visas for uzbek citizens and were addressing the needs of US soldiers while US had a base in Uzb. Most countries that are sovereign have foreign embassies for foreign relation purposes...

That could all be handled by a consul. I don't think an embassy is necessary. I also don't think they serve US citizens in any way (from what I hear). You need to explain what services they give. :lol: I don't understand what soldiers have to do with the embassy. I don't see any reason why soldiers would need to use an embassy.

[melo]

Don't be a smart-ass, zzzzzzzzz.

Why ask us? Write a letter to the Department of State, to Condie. Why open foolish threads just for the sake of threads?

Since you live so close, maybe you could stop by and ask her personally. :D I am sure her answer will have something to do with the war on terror and these scary times that we live in. Her answer would be hilarious :lol: My point was if anyone could think of a reason that an embassy is necessary.

Sorry I know my threads can't compete with the other very important topics that are routinely opened (sometimes the same one 3 times). :P

[ДЖИГИТ]

Cause Cold War is still on.

[munisa]

atpaint,

visit www.usembassy.uz and find out more out there.

in short - don't you understand politics?

[-Resident-]

One part is for Uzbek people because there more people than Kazahstan.
Other part is: what you wanted hear ---spying---;)

[Odildustov]

US is US, not uzbekistan. They care for their citizens, they make all comfort for their citizens. They think about their citizens security. Have you ever entered ther and saw how they check strangers? I respect the government which takes care for their citizens. That's why there are more partiots in US than us by comparing with percentage.

[kipchak]

US is US, not uzbekistan. They care for their citizens, they make all comfort for their citizens. They think about their citizens security. Have you ever entered ther and saw how they check strangers? I respect the government which takes care for their citizens. That's why there are more partiots in US than us by comparing with percentage.

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[Arhimed]

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[Odildustov]

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Kipchak ili kipi chag or whatever,
San bir qaragin nima yozganimga. man usha uzbekistondaman. kmlagadir uhshab chetda turvolib tanqidchilik qilayotganim yuq. Man quyganman us iga ham rusiyasiga ham. man aytmoqchi bulganim umumiy gap, fuqorosini himoya qilgan davlatni hurmat qilaman. Sanu mani fuqoromni itdey past qilib quygan duvlatingnimas. kurdim uzb ning chetdagi elchihonalarini, yoningdagilaga kursatishga uyalasan.
Agar shunchalik hukumatingni hurmat qilarkansan, iltimos qilseng uzb bayrogni tobuting ustiga yopvoraman.

[Glance]

As every one knows, the main mission of an embassy is not issuing visas or serving their citizens, the main reason for their existence in a country is their political ambitions.

Since, situation in Uzbekistan is "a bit interesting" it's just "very interesting" to them to be here..

[melo]

Odildustov- I have no idea what you are talking about. :lol: Who says the US takes care of its citizens? :shock: Please explain.

As every one knows, the main mission of an embassy is not issuing visas or serving their citizens, the main reason for their existence in a country is their political ambitions.

Since, situation in Uzbekistan is "a bit interesting" it's just "very interesting" to them to be here..

What is so interesting? :shock: I don't think I understand.

[daka]

Hi Shpion:)

Have to say I missed your sense of humor;)

Can anyone explain the need for a US embassy in Tashkent? :? Why do they need such a large building and what are they actually doing there? At most they need a consul or they could just have one embassy in Almaty for all of central asia. Any ideas?

Anyways, here are my thoughts, the US needs an Embassy so Uzbeks would feel closer to US, and in the moments of happiness can have "bayrams" with occasional bombing in front of it, the Embassy is present with the thought of Uzbek people in mind!:P

As for what people inside of the Embassy do, last time I was there, I had an "English" tea, I think that is what they do most of the time:lol:

Cheers, dostim:D

[Prodigy]

Can anyone explain the need for a US embassy in Tashkent? :? Why do they need such a large building and what are they actually doing there? At most they need a consul or they could just have one embassy in Almaty for all of central asia. Any ideas?

I think You know the answer already...

[MUHLIS]

I think:
1. The previous location was not very ideal place: too crowded and huge public park in the backside.
2. It was not very secure: two bombing attempts; high crime rate in the area where it is located;
3. Te building was too small for expanding funtions and tasks of the US diplomatic office at the time when the decision was made (Khanabad base);
4. The US has had a general agenda of renovating its embassies throughout the world, similar coumpounds were built in some other countries such as Armenia.
5 Public Affairs Section and Consular section were located in two different places (which presumably creates some difficulties in management and coordination, security and safety, etc).
6. Maybe they were renting the old place and perhaps either the renting price was too high, owner exerting pressure (attempts to involve in corruption through demanding to give out visas to their people, buying things only from their acquaintances) or suspisions arouse about the confedentuality of information flow and exchange within the rented building.
The US-Uzbek relations went downwards after the decision about building the new compound was made. The buildings total cost was around 60 mln USD and at least 10 mln of it were spent for buying products and services from the local market. The same construction company that built the famous twin skyscrapes in Malaysia built the new Embassy compound.
Anyways, I think their new embassy compound did not do anything negative to the Uzbek public. Actually, by its presense it fostered development of infrastructure in its previous location (restorants, a bazar, other small businesses) and it is having the same effect on its new location now.

[EZOP]

in short:
Uzbekistan is not part of Kazakstan, it is independant country...

if you don't like them just don't go there...

okaginam viza olaolmagan ko'rinadida Royal aka.

[melo]

okaginam viza olaolmagan ko'rinadida Royal aka.

Yep, that's probably the reason. :lol:

[UzbekGirlie]

That could all be handled by a consul. I don't think an embassy is necessary. I also don't think they serve US citizens in any way (from what I hear). You need to explain what services they give. :lol: I don't understand what soldiers have to do with the embassy. I don't see any reason why soldiers would need to use an embassy.

Actually I am a US citizen that visit Uzb. quite often and during those visits i had to go to embassy once or twice at least to take care of certian things...

[melo]

Actually I am a US citizen that visit Uzb. quite often and during those visits i had to go to embassy once or twice at least to take care of certian things...

And what exactly did they do for you? Did you make an appointment at least a week ahead? If not you will certainly be refused entry.

[UzbekGirlie]

And what exactly did they do for you? Did you make an appointment at least a week ahead? If not you will certainly be refused entry.

Nope my appt was made in hours notice and i had my issues resolved. They weer great and i was glad they were there. Because without them dealing with Uzb government is impossibe.

[melo]

Nope my appt was made in hours notice and i had my issues resolved. They weer great and i was glad they were there. Because without them dealing with Uzb government is impossibe.

More difficult than dealing with the US government and its embassy? :shock: I guess it is good to hear somebody has good experiences with the US embassy.

[melo]

3. Te building was too small for expanding funtions and tasks of the US diplomatic office at the time when the decision was made (Khanabad base);

The US-Uzbek relations went downwards after the decision about building the new compound was made. The buildings total cost was around 60 mln USD and at least 10 mln of it were spent for buying products and services from the local market. The same construction company that built the famous twin skyscrapes in Malaysia built the new Embassy compound.
Anyways, I think their new embassy compound did not do anything negative to the Uzbek public. Actually, by its presense it fostered development of infrastructure in its previous location (restorants, a bazar, other small businesses) and it is having the same effect on its new location now.


I still see no connection between the Khanabad base and the US embassy.

I don't think spenindg 60 million dollars is wise if it only helps improve the local infrastructure a little in the surrounding areas. :lol: Maybe I am just poor, but that doesn't seem to be a good investment to me.

[Citizen Dido]

Kipchak ili kipi chag or whatever,
San bir qaragin nima yozganimga. man usha uzbekistondaman. kmlagadir uhshab chetda turvolib tanqidchilik qilayotganim yuq. Man quyganman us iga ham rusiyasiga ham. man aytmoqchi bulganim umumiy gap, fuqorosini himoya qilgan davlatni hurmat qilaman. Sanu mani fuqoromni itdey past qilib quygan duvlatingnimas. kurdim uzb ning chetdagi elchihonalarini, yoningdagilaga kursatishga uyalasan.
Agar shunchalik hukumatingni hurmat qilarkansan, iltimos qilseng uzb bayrogni tobuting ustiga yopvoraman.



Да они заботятся о своих граждан,НО если они работают на Посольство (т.е. дипломаты,разведчики и предс. раз.орг)
Ну а если нет получите помощь мягко говоря, когда рак на горе свистнет.
Позвольте происнить почему ..
Если кто-то долго проживает в Калифорнии то они прекрасно знают чего стоит выезжать в соседнюю Мексику (часа три езды).
Там Мексиканским ментам дел нет какой страны ты являешся гражданином ,ну уж если Вы Американец и вас поймали в нетрезвом состоянии просто на улице ,а если за рулем тогда вам вообще крупно не повезло(правит страшная коррупция) . Обдирают так что маму родную не узнаете.Пока Вы до посольство дозванитесь просидите в вонючей тюрьме столько что обратно в Мексику не захочется. (Калифорнийцы наверняка хотябы слышали об этом). Так что все они краснобайщики ....

А вот насчет об Узбекском Консульстве

Гражданин Узбекистана Вася Петров находясь по студенческой визе в Калифорнии потерял пасспорт. Он обращается в Documentation Center, а они говорят ему что вот с кем хочешь договаримся, Но с Узб Консульством не возможно.Рождается вопрос у Васи а ПоЧему???
А потому что они не понимают по Английский .Так что вот сам и на Узбекском и разговаривай посоветовали они..

Услышав это мне было очень смешно и одновременно стыдно. Не думаю что они не понимают по английский, это наверняка они так отмазывались.Стыдно то что бедолага Вася Петров пострадал.

Скромный вывод оставляю за Вами..

[Пушкарева]

DIdo, libo vi jivyote davno vne russkoyazichnoy strani, libo u menya russkiy idyot na ubil.:( In short, mne trudno ponyat vash writing, i sootvetstvenno, izlagaemuyu ideyu.

[Prodigy]

I still see no connection between the Khanabad base and the US embassy.

I don't think spenindg 60 million dollars is wise if it only helps improve the local infrastructure a little in the surrounding areas. :lol: Maybe I am just poor, but that doesn't seem to be a good investment to me.

who said that American government is a good investor? They are injecting billions of dollars into the war, spending billions into "democracy support" so I do not think 60 mln is a money for them.

[Prodigy]

... Но с Узб Консульством не возможно.Рождается вопрос у Васи а ПоЧему???
А потому что они не понимают по Английский .Так что вот сам и на Узбекском и разговаривай посоветовали они..

Услышав это мне было очень смешно и одновременно стыдно. Не думаю что они не понимают по английский, это наверняка они так отмазывались.Стыдно то что бедолага Вася Петров пострадал.

Скромный вывод оставляю за Вами..

chto vi sami skromno kak-to nepnyatno zamutili...eto v Uzbekskom posolstve ne ponimayut angliyskogo? Chego chego a angliyskogo nashi diplomati ochen horosho ponimayut... ya ponimayu, yesli bi sotrudniki posolstva Uzbekistana v Kambodjiyi ne ponimali kambodjiyskogo yazika. bilo bi pravdopodobno

[melo]

man, how many times were you asked this question: "are you stupid or you are born like that?":)

I am guessing you don't know the answer then? :?

[melo]

who said that American government is a good investor? They are injecting billions of dollars into the war, spending billions into "democracy support" so I do not think 60 mln is a money for them.

That is why the US government is severly in debt now. I think 60 million is a lot for anyone. Especially when it is totally pointless. :rolleyes:

[melo]

don't yet get offended, man.:) There are soooooooooooo many reasons such as adminstrative, political, economical, social etc. for america to have an embassy in Uzb. ;)

I think it is stupid and pointless. I think I could make that argument fairly easily. ;) People keep implying there are good reasons, but nobody seems to know what they are exactly. :lol: I guess people just assume an embassy is necessary everwhere.

[melo]

First of all, for the convenience. It's easier for both uzbek citizens and americans to obtain their visas, to process their documents etc. What if we break our relationship with neighboring countries and some american needs an urgent help.
Secondly, there used to be and still some companies, businessmen, people from America who are residing in uzbekistan. Embassy have to be there in order to serve and protect them.
Thirdly, for "spy" reasons.:lol: Every member of embassy has some connection with CIA or FBI. joking:lol: but there is a truth in every joke.

etc. etc. etc.;)

:lol: Very funny post! :lol:

I asked onetime and was told the US embassy is not there to provide help or services to US citizens. That takes care of that point. What visas do americans get from the US embassy? :lol: And all you need is a consul for Uzbek citizens.

I don't think there are many Americans there anyways. They all work at the embassy. :lol: I think you would have better luck getting help from the Uzbek embassy than a US citizen would from the US embassy. I have heard enough stories (except for UzbekGirlie I guess). It is not known for its services to US citizens. You really think the embassy is there to protect Americans or help them if they need it? Is that what the Uzbek embassy in the US does for Uzbek citizens too?

[sarik]

Can anyone explain the need for a US embassy in Tashkent? :? Why do they need such a large building and what are they actually doing there? At most they need a consul or they could just have one embassy in Almaty for all of central asia. Any ideas?



COS Uzbekistan is main player in central asia !! Sabse quently Us embassy in Tashkent main base in central asia ..

[Professor]

Within the Embassy they have all necessary satellite guided equipments to spy. There's a huge difference between US and British Mission Buildings. To protect oneself with low cost in case of Uzbekistan.