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Is it possible for people from Turkistan to immigrate to Turkey ? Would for example uZbeks want it? For example 1 million people in 10 years. The aim is to sustain powerful relationships among countries of Turkic origin.
Is it possible for people from Turkistan to immigrate to Turkey ? Would for example uZbeks want it? For example 1 million people in 10 years. The aim is to sustain powerful relationships among countries of Turkic origin.
Do you work for Turkey's immigration office? Are you offering? :D
Do you work for Turkey's immigration office? Are you offering? :D
No. But in Anatolia and think we are in danger. We need new fresh Turkistan blood.
KALILA
03-01-2007, 07:11 AM
First of all there is no need for uzbeks in this numbers to immigrate to Turkey. Secondly it is not that easy to absorb this many immigrants into the turkish society. Turks themselvs are runing from Turkey, because of social difficulties.
You are in the same time offering an immgration for uzbeks and other people of Central Asia, and how on earth are you gonna take care of their problems?,or how your government will take care of those immigrants?
Demir Kağan
03-01-2007, 07:35 AM
First of all, Uzbeks are not only nation living in Turkistan. Second of all, he is asking that personally, not as a government man. Nobody is running from Turkey except some people who are not satisfied with their country. I also accept that Turkey has many problems. There are Kyrgyz people living in Turkey, Van, Ulupamir town who immigrated. ;)
ozbecool
03-01-2007, 08:06 AM
first of all, it is better to move turkish people from west to east side of Turkey, second of all, it is not good to offer others things that you are afraid of or not willing to do yourself=)
just idea for asked question=)
Demir Kağan
03-01-2007, 08:09 AM
first of all, it is better to move turkish people from west to east side of Turkey, second of all, it is not good to offer others things that you are afraid of or not willing to do yourself=)
just idea for asked question=)
Brother, who told they won't move? :)
ozbecool
03-01-2007, 08:12 AM
ask any teacher in turkey if he or she is willing to go to bingöl, urfa or van , i am sure 90% of them wont be willing to go there...
Demir Kağan
03-01-2007, 08:15 AM
ask any teacher in turkey if he or she is willing to go to bingöl, urfa or van , i am sure 90% of them wont be willing to go there...
Because of the terror and people who help terrorists there. When we destroy the terror there, -it's soon-, people will go there. Do you think we are calling our brothers to die in there?
Karayılan
03-01-2007, 08:17 AM
When republic was established, some ministers asked to Ataturk " if you want we can bring all Turkic people to Turkiye" and he answered " No. They should stay there." because he thought that they would be independent in one day and Uzbekistan is independent now.
Turkistan is our mother land not Turkiye. I worry about Turkistan...
ozbecool
03-01-2007, 08:19 AM
Because of the terror and people who help terrorists there. When we destroy the terror there, -it's soon-, people will go there. Do you think we are calling our brothers to die in there?
i am just wondering how if one cant do something because of danger, asks his best friend to do that:D or arent we friends:D
Demir Kağan
03-01-2007, 08:21 AM
i am just wondering how if one cant do something because of danger, asks his best friend to do that:D or arent we friends:D
I am not talking about now, I am talking about the time when the problems in east are solved.
ozbecool
03-01-2007, 08:26 AM
Is it possible for people from Turkistan to immigrate to Turkey ? Would for example uZbeks want it? For example 1 million people in 10 years.
Quote from first post:D
Ulkemizin zor gunler yasadigi malum. Oncelikle sunu belirteyimki irkci birisi degilim ve Kurtlere karsi ozel bir dusmanligim yok ancak ABD ve Ýsrailin Turkiye uzerindeki emelleri beni korkutuyor. Emperyalist gucleri arkasina alan Kurt ayrilikcilar ve K.Ýraktaki asiret reisleri artik bardagi tasirdi. Kurtler Turkiyeyi bolmek degil tum Turkiyede egemen olmak istiyorlar, bu acik ve bu sekilde nufus artislari ve gocleri devam ederse 50-100 sene arasinda bu mumkun.
Ben bu soruna tek bir cozum uretebiliyorum, kan ve gozyasi disinda: Orta Asyadan soydaslarimizi Turkiyeye getirerek Kurtleri kendi politikalari ile sindirmek. Yani mesela 10 sene icinde 1.000.000 soydasimizi Turkiyeye getirebilirmiyiz ya da onlar gelmek istermi acaba? Nufus yapisi ve ekonomik sorunlar nedeniyle Ozbekistandan buyuk bir goc olabilecegini dusunuyorum elbetteki altyapi hazirlandiktan gelenlere asgari kosullar saglandiktan sonra. Vandaki Ulupamir koyu buna bir ornektir.
quote from turkistan forumu:D
no comments:twisted:
Karayılan
03-01-2007, 08:31 AM
We shouldn't discuss about such a unnecessary topic. We should discuss how we can found Turkic Union or Turan. If one day Turan is established anyhow we will live together.
so we had better ask Uzbeks whether they want to live with us in Turan...
Demir Kağan
03-01-2007, 08:43 AM
I am talking for myself dear brother, talking for myself.
I support immigration from Turkistan to Turkey only after problems in east are solved.
Quote from first post:D
quote from turkistan forumu:D
no comments:twisted:
The real problem is not the terror, it is the social understanding, economics and the habits. A Turk from the West wont go to the eastern parts, not because he is afraid but because he is used to live in the West and also he can earn more in the West. As I now Uzbekistan is much more poor than Turkey. So if the Turkish goverment can sustain and build villages the Turks from Central Asia can come and live here. As a result Turkey can have spots of Turks in the mainly Kurdish living areas and may have the right to protect them. The Turks of Central Asia will protect their culture more effectively, as is the case of the village in Van Ulupamir.
I have to say again, this not "using" the Central Asian Turks, this is the process of "re-Turkisation" of Turkey which the first began in 1071 again in the eastern parts of Anatolia.
ozbecool
03-01-2007, 08:55 AM
The real problem is not the terror, it is the social understanding, economics and the habits. A Turk from the West wont go to the eastern parts, not because he is afraid but because he is used to live in the West and also he can earn more in the West. As I now Uzbekistan is much more poor than Turkey. So if the Turkish goverment can sustain and build villages the Turks from Central Asia can come and live here. As a result Turkey can have spots of Turks in the mainly Kurdish living areas and may have the right to protect them. The Turks of Central Asia will protect their culture more effectively, as is the case of the village in Van Ulupamir.
I have to say again, this not "using" the Central Asian Turks, this is the process of "re-Turkisation" of Turkey which the first began in 1071 again in the eastern parts of Anatolia.
you know it will be wise idea to stop our discussion right here because when i start with what i have seen in europe and with my knowledge about living standards in turkey outside the big cities then probably i could hurt your feelings...
Abu-Hafiza
03-01-2007, 09:16 AM
First of all, it is very hard for Uzbeks in particular to immigrate to Turkey. One exapmle, one of the members of my family has applied for work permit in Turkey, in 6 month time his application was rejected because the ministry (whatever is delaing with work permits and immigration) has LOST the documents that were sent to them. He can only go to Turkey on turist visa, extend it for 3 month and go back. Provided that visas are no longer issued on arrival, he has to go through the lengthy process over and over again. He tried student visa, again, he can only stay as student through TOMER for 6 month and then he HAS TO go back.
He tried to purchase a property but do you know what TAPU ve KADASTRO MUDURLUGU told him? Even if you do get aproval, I (i.e. the head of tapu office in the town) will NOT issue you a TAPU. Reason? No reasons, just cos he doesnt want to. And after all these, how do you think Uzbeks will immigrate to Turkey? Only to work illegally in construction or in some restourant? I dont think so
Karayılan
03-01-2007, 09:27 AM
Yani acikcasi adamlar Turkiye'yi istemiyor. Konuyu acan arkadasa soralim simdi Turkistan'da kurd sorunu olsa sen oraya gocer miydin?
And one question to Uzbeks. If we were in danger such as war... and we wanted to come Uzbekistan would you open your teritory for us?
Abu-Hafiza
03-01-2007, 09:31 AM
Turansoyu, uzbeks dont even want to open theritory in their forum :lool::lool::lool: do you think they will be waiting for you in Uzbekistan? :D;)
Well, to be honest, i wouldnt mind Turks in Uzbekistan, but unfortunataly there are many who think otherwise :D
Karayılan
03-01-2007, 09:43 AM
Thanks my brother!!! It is nice to heard these. If we are in danger we don't ask your help :D
you know it will be wise idea to stop our discussion right here because when i start with what i have seen in europe and with my knowledge about living standards in turkey outside the big cities then probably i could hurt your feelings...
No I wont get hurt. I know that most places of Turkey are poor. What am I saying is to make the Central Asian Turks the master of the land. Giving all the rights over the land. As I know most places of Anatolia are more fertile and productive. Also they can settle all around Turkey not just the east. I am asking the question of making the Central Asian Turks more effective over Turkey. How can this be a bad situation ?
Yani acikcasi adamlar Turkiye'yi istemiyor. Konuyu acan arkadasa soralim simdi Turkistan'da kurd sorunu olsa sen oraya gocer miydin?
And one question to Uzbeks. If we were in danger such as war... and we wanted to come Uzbekistan would you open your teritory for us?
Daha iyi þartlar altýnda yaþayacaksam elbette. Eðer köydeki bir vatandaþ olsam, bana devlet güvencesi altýnda çok uzak olmayan bir kültür içinde toprak ve mülk veriliyorsa seve seve giderim. Þu anda muhasebe üzerine uðraþýyorum, Orta Asyanýn herhangibir bölgesinden bana daha iyi þartlarda iþ teklifi gelsin hiç düþünmem giderim.
Ancak unutmayalýmki biz oradan geldik ve ne yazýkki içimizde Kürt Çerkez Laz v.b etnik unsurlar var. Orta Asyaya herkesi göndermek bence hata olacaktýr.
Karayılan
03-01-2007, 03:58 PM
Onlarin icinde de ruslar var. Ornegin Kazakistan'in yuzde 30-35'i rus. Bizim de onlara yardim etmemiz gerekiyor bu durumda...
Azinlik konusunun cozumleri,
1 Asimilasyon
2 Goce zorlama
3 Soykirim
4 Kisirlastirma
Bunlari yapmadigin surece azinliklardan kurtulman imkansiz. Istersen 30 milyon Turk getir Orta Asya'dan bu yanlizca nufusunu arttirir... Bunlarin icinde en insancil olani asimilasyon, bu da soyumuzun bozulmasi anlamina geliyor. kurdleri eritecegiz diye gidip onlarla evlenemeyiz.
Turkiye'deki diger soylarin icinde dusmanlik yapan tek unsur kurdler. Bence sorunun cozumu Dogu ve Guneydogu'yu kalkindirmaktir. Sen onlara ekmek ver sana kul olurlar. Kisilikleri boyle...
Qarama
03-01-2007, 04:09 PM
Do you work for Turkey's immigration office? Are you offering? :D
Dear Mr. Jaguar Paw,
let me introduce myself i am biting alligator :lol:
if i would live in Turkiye and had a company then i would let you work in my company :D
may Quetzelquatl protect you and your clan :lol:
MirzoBobur
03-01-2007, 05:03 PM
I knew we Uzbeks who live in Uzbekistan didn't have to get Tukey visa to go to Turkey couple years ago. Some people say now it has been changed, however I think it is not problem to get Turkey visa for us ( it is just my opinion) and I think also Turkey embassy more like to give visa any Turkic Nations( Uzbek, KAzak, Kirgiz, Turkamen, Azari, Uygur, TAtar, Bashkir etc.) who doesn't have any good resson to get there.
Prince
03-01-2007, 05:44 PM
If you are from Turkistan as far as i know there is previligies for those people who wans to migrate to Turkey,
Cheers,
P.S Get your Turkish citizenship now, before it joins to EU :)
Altinbasak
03-01-2007, 05:48 PM
First of all there is no need for uzbeks in this numbers to immigrate to Turkey. Secondly it is not that easy to absorb this many immigrants into the turkish society. Turks themselvs are runing from Turkey, because of social difficulties.
You are in the same time offering an immgration for uzbeks and other people of Central Asia, and how on earth are you gonna take care of their problems?,or how your government will take care of those immigrants?
living in Turkey?
Altinbasak
03-01-2007, 05:55 PM
Turansoyu, uzbeks dont even want to open theritory in their forum :lool::lool::lool: do you think they will be waiting for you in Uzbekistan? :D;)
Well, to be honest, i wouldnt mind Turks in Uzbekistan, but unfortunataly there are many who think otherwise :D
interesting
MirzoBobur
03-01-2007, 08:28 PM
the turks of turkey are not TURKIC, theyre a mix of middle eastern races who speak a common language. before world war one, most people in the ottoman empire spoke there own language,. (bulgarian, Kurdish, whatever)........
Most people in Turkey dont look anything like the Mongolied people of central asia. the very very few Uzbeks in America are often confused with Chinese people, ......
What you mean man?
Tukish people are not Turk? What Central asian people is Mongolied?
A lot Siberian peoples' and Japaneses' eyes are nerrow are they Mongolied?
Why Mongols weren’t Turkied? They just occupied our land just for some years but they couldn't change their culture, religion, custom etc. Go to Mongolia what is common you would see to Central Asia. Northing is common with us, just they have two ears two eye and one nose man
Demir Kağan
03-02-2007, 03:06 AM
Mirzabobur, I see Altinbasak has a confused mind because for example I am a pure Turk. There had never been anybody who is not Turk in my blood. :)
the turks of turkey are not TURKIC, theyre a mix of middle eastern races who speak a common language. before world war one, most people in the ottoman empire spoke there own language,. (bulgarian, Kurdish, whatever)........
First of all, who are you? What is your nationality? Not everbody living in Turkey is Turk, this is right but there are 55 million Oguz Turk in Turkey whose fathers conquered Anatolia. Anyway, open another thread and we talk about this subject there because this is offtopic.
the turks of turkey are not TURKIC, theyre a mix of middle eastern races who speak a common language. before world war one, most people in the ottoman empire spoke there own language,. (bulgarian, Kurdish, whatever)........
Most people in Turkey dont look anything like the Mongolied people of central asia. the very very few Uzbeks in America are often confused with Chinese people, ......
It is right that some people in Turkey have mix-blood but there are also a lot of pure Turks. There is no such thing as the %100 pure blood. If you believe in Allah or not either way all people came from Adem and Havva or the apes.
But if we have to evaluate, %40 or even %50 of Turkey is pure Turks. If not so how can you explain the language that we are talking. We dominated the area.
MirzoBobur
03-02-2007, 08:17 PM
The term Mongoloid is a charactoristic of people living in Central Asia. Most Turks are not Mongoloid, they look either middle eastern or European. did there appearance just change in a few 100 years of living in the middleeast?
Oh Mann, are you here insulting us(all turkic nations), even though you are Turkish, but i am doubt you're and you came to this forum for another purpose I think
Frida
03-02-2007, 08:50 PM
The term Mongoloid is a charactoristic of people living in Central Asia. Most Turks are not Mongoloid, they look either middle eastern or European. did there appearance just change in a few 100 years of living in the middleeast?
by this you mean Turks are better? or Mongoloid Central Asians are worth?
What is the difference between you and Hitler who measured everything based on the people's skulls?
Why can't someone just start banning users like this? How long can we go on about pure blood, the best skin and better skull?
kipchak
03-02-2007, 09:00 PM
by this you mean Turks are better? or Mongoloid Central Asians are worth?
What is the difference between you and Hitler who measured everything based on the people's skulls?
Why can't someone just start banning users like this? How long can we go on about pure blood, the best skin and better skull?
Hitler indeed had a lot of brains in his skull...
MirzoBobur
03-02-2007, 09:29 PM
The term Mongoloid is a charactoristic of people living in Central Asia. Most Turks are not Mongoloid, they look either middle eastern or European. did there appearance just change in a few 100 years of living in the middleeast?
I am confident he is really sick
Demir Kağan
03-03-2007, 01:47 AM
my family is from Turkey
Your family may be from Turkey but not everyone in Turkey is Turk. So, let us know your nationality and your tribe.
Abu-Hafiza
03-03-2007, 06:33 AM
and how did this
turn into this
With few make ups, some light effects and different camera angle :) Its movie man and it is si-fi commedy movie. They were supposed to portrait not Turks but G.O.R.A.ns :lool:
Uyyonli
03-04-2007, 12:35 PM
KIPCHAK
Hitler indeed had a lot of brains in his skull...
wuaha :lool:
u made me laugh really hard thank you million times though lol :lool:
Tabriz_Han
03-04-2007, 12:50 PM
Crawl back under whatever racist stone you crawled out of, why are you obsessed with "skulls", the intellectual level of your ideas leave me to think you only have a "skull" and no brain within it.
Race/genetics/purity bla bla bla silly Nazi archaic redundant ideals have nothing to do with what it is to be a nation.
A nation is a group of people with a similar language, culture, identity, bond, historic links etc etc in common. If somebody was bought up as a Turk, has Turkic as a mothertongue and has a Turk identity, I don't care if he/she is black, white, yellow, purple or blue, I'll accept them as a Turk, that is the Turkic way, our forefathers were always against Racism! The heart is important, not "look".
Personally I think Turkic countries should lift any visa requirements, make it easy to travel, work, trade in Turkic countries so that we can easily go and see each other, meet each other, marry each other and get closer together.
logan
03-08-2007, 07:15 AM
Is it possible for people from Turkistan to immigrate to Turkey ? Would for example uZbeks want it? For example 1 million people in 10 years. The aim is to sustain powerful relationships among countries of Turkic origin.
no, it is impossible. there are already lots of poor people living in turkey. if they want to share poverty with us so they are welcome.
i think turkey is livable country but west turkey!( istanbul, izmir, ankara, antalya) and some parts of east anatolia( malatya-my mother was born in malatya)
but maybe in the future turks can think about moving central asia( because of patrol, they are getting richer)
Dulkadiroglu
03-08-2007, 07:19 AM
no, it is impossible. there are already lots of poor people living in turkey. if they want to share poverty with us so they are welcome.
i think turkey is livable country but west turkey!( istanbul, izmir, ankara, antalya) and some parts of east anatolia( malatya-my mother was born in malatya)
but maybe in the future turks can think about moving central asia( because of patrol, they are getting richer)
İf kurds get out from Turkiye Central Asian Turks could come to the Turkiye and it would be very good...
Yes Central Asia has petrol but Turkiye has "bor mines" and its a very big part of bor mines in the world...and its veryyy important mine...so we wont leave from our lands...we should try to success "Turan"...
ozbecool
03-08-2007, 07:21 AM
you dont have to like your land because it has oil or bor!
i would like desert if i was born in africa.
Dulkadiroglu
03-08-2007, 07:24 AM
you dont have to like your land because it has oil or bor!
i would like desert if i was born in africa.
i like my lands because we paid manyyyyyyyyyy martyr blood for it...
ozbecool
03-08-2007, 07:31 AM
İf kurds get out from Turkiye Central Asian Turks could come to the Turkiye and it would be very good...
Yes Central Asia has petrol but Turkiye has "bor mines" and its a very big part of bor mines in the world...and its veryyy important mine...so we wont leave from our lands...we should try to success "Turan"...
it is so easy to discuss with turks- just quoting their own posts:D
logan
03-08-2007, 07:32 AM
İf kurds get out from Turkiye Central Asian Turks could come to the Turkiye and it would be very good...
Yes Central Asia has petrol but Turkiye has "bor mines" and its a very big part of bor mines in the world...and its veryyy important mine...so we wont leave from our lands...we should try to success "Turan"...
you must be "metal firtina " reader: ) and "kurtlar wadisi" watcher: ) it is so funny:lol: have you ever read "bilim teknik" ? i think:no. if yes, pls read again. bor is big "dream" but it is wrong. central asia will pass us, and lots of people -maybe- will move to asia for getting job.
pls stop disturbing people!
Dulkadiroglu
03-08-2007, 07:34 AM
it is so easy to discuss with turks- just quoting their own posts:D
ozbecool read my articles carefully...logan said Turks could come to Central Asia for get rich because Central Asia has petrol...i said smt about bor mines for show we dont need to petrol for get rich because we have an important mine so we wont leave our lands;) understand???
Dulkadiroglu
03-08-2007, 07:35 AM
you must be "metal firtina " reader: ) and "kurtlar wadisi" watcher: ) it is so funny:lol: have you ever read "bilim teknik" ? i think:no. if yes, pls read again. bor is big "dream" but it is wrong. central asia will pass us, and lots of people -maybe- will move to asia for getting job.
pls stop disturbing people!
i learned bor from school not from series...bor is strong to hot so its usefull for defence industry;)
logan
03-08-2007, 07:43 AM
i learned bor from school not from series...bor is strong to hot so its usefull for defence industry;)
it is just a story: ) i read it from bilim teknik. yes, it is good mines but not enough for becoming rich. bor wont make us first country in the world ( or 15. country in the world: )
Dulkadiroglu
03-08-2007, 07:46 AM
it is just a story: ) i read it from bilim teknik. yes, it is good mines but not enough for becoming rich. bor wont make us first country in the world ( or 15. country in the world: )
its not enough for now because arabs still have petrol...and Turkiye has about %70's all of bors in the world...its a big part...and we have anouther thing too...its WATER!!! what do u think about it after there wont be much clean water in the world??
logan
03-08-2007, 07:55 AM
its not enough for now because arabs still have petrol...and Turkiye has about %70's all of bors in the world...its a big part...and we have anouther thing too...its WATER!!! what do u think about it after there wont be much clean water in the world??
do we have water? are you sure? it is getting less and our population is increasing.dont you remember what happened in izmit( city near istanbul)? they didnt have water for washing anything!
we are destroying enviroment perfectly, so we wont find water for drinking!
pls check your informations again. i afraid most of them wrong! and futures energy is "hydrogene" not bor.
Dulkadiroglu
03-08-2007, 08:00 AM
do we have water? are you sure? it is getting less and our population is increasing.dont you remember what happened in izmit( city near istanbul)? they didnt have water for washing anything!
we are destroying enviroment perfectly, so we wont find water for drinking!
pls check your informations again. i afraid most of them wrong! and futures energy is "hydrogene" not bor.
İzmit didnt have water because of improitery in the Yuvacık Barrage;) do u know the smt about Manavgat?and offer of Israel about it???i think no...and we have another big rivers too...u know Syria needs to a river from Turkiye...and we have many rivers like it;)
logan
03-08-2007, 08:17 AM
İzmit didnt have water because of improitery in the Yuvacık Barrage;) do u know the smt about Manavgat?and offer of Israel about it???i think no...and we have another big rivers too...u know Syria needs to a river from Turkiye...and we have many rivers like it;)
yes, somebody want to sell our water to israel. but do you know tiny villeges near manavgat??? they dont have water ! our politicians are so idiot( just like other politicians). our rivesr are getting worse and worse, so i am sorry our water wont make us "rich" we must pray(!) for next decades.
Dulkadiroglu
03-08-2007, 08:21 AM
yes, somebody want to sell our water to israel. but do you know tiny villeges near manavgat??? they dont have water ! our politicians are so idiot( just like other politicians). our rivesr are getting worse and worse, so i am sorry our water wont make us "rich" we must pray(!) for next decades.
All rivers are going to worse so our water will be more important;) we have many rivers...but others havent rivers got like ours...and our lands is good for farming...we have many way for be rich with good strategy dont woryy...and its the reason why we have many enemies...
logan
03-08-2007, 08:26 AM
All rivers are going to worse so our water will be more important;) we have many rivers...but others havent rivers got like ours...and our lands is good for farming...we have many way for be rich with good strategy dont woryy...and its the reason why we have many enemies...
the problem is "our" rivers are getting worse. of course not like china's or india's. but it doesnt change the fact. unfourtunately, turkey is not developed country. turkey dont care about pollution.
by the way, syria hasnt got so much water , ok but is it important? syria such a poor country, how do you compare turkey with syria???
big counties are in east asia, europe and north america. not near turkey.
Dulkadiroglu
03-08-2007, 08:56 AM
the problem is "our" rivers are getting worse. of course not like china's or india's. but it doesnt change the fact. unfourtunately, turkey is not developed country. turkey dont care about pollution.
by the way, syria hasnt got so much water , ok but is it important? syria such a poor country, how do you compare turkey with syria???
big counties are in east asia, europe and north america. not near turkey.
arabs think to bring water from antartica;) so its not important they are near to us or not...u know an economic rule?if a thing arent much in the market its price will be high;) understand?
Tabriz_Han
03-08-2007, 09:31 AM
Logan
i afraid most of them wrong! and futures energy is "hydrogene" not bor.
And how do you think "hydrogene" energy is produced? yes, the essential component is "Bor". Turkiye has one of the world's largest reserves of this mineral, however, it's keeping this hush hush untill they have the technology required to easily extract and make large profits from it.
Bor will gradually become a vital mineral as the world's oil reserves don't have a long life-span left and they it is a heavy pollutant.
Economically Azerbaycan, Turkiye and Turkiston have a prosperous future, however, it comes down to how the leader's manage this wealth at the end of the day. There is no point sitting on such wealth while being exploited and robbed for it. Look at the Arab states, apart from Kuwait the Arab people's don't see much benefit from this wealth.
Basically, if we work together we will benefit if we can't work together we all suffer. The West wants to by-pass Russia and create alternate roots, this gives more strategic power to the Turkic states, the old Silk-Road is being modernized.
Regarding the initial post, there have been quite a few recent migrations of Central Asian Turks to Turkey. The Kirgiz tribe which settled in Van, the Afganistan Ozbek Turks who settled in Hatay/Gazi Antep region and so on. Central Asian Turks should be welcome in Turkey and require no Visa to come and stay, they're just carrying on what the Turks already there started.
MUHLIS
03-13-2007, 02:21 AM
Come on erk, establishing powerful links can be done in many other better ways. For example, for the beginning, ask TIKA to organize a series of consert tours to Turkistan with famous Turkish singers like Tarkan, Candan Ercetin, Rafet, etc.
wapper
04-16-2007, 11:21 AM
We need new fresh Turkistan blood.
Fresh bood? How come, what does it do? Is turkish blood better than others? Sounds a bit odd to me. Nowadays we are all the same, some try genetics to blame for differences others just say its education or the lack of it.
Passports can be bought nowadays, heck those guys from the state department don´t do anything other than that. If problems arise that you are born in one country which prides itself in self containment well there are ways to circunvent all attempts.
regards
Wapper
berlusconi
05-04-2007, 01:04 AM
First of all, Uzbeks are not only nation living in Turkistan. Second of all, he is asking that personally, not as a government man. Nobody is running from Turkey except some people who are not satisfied with their country. I also accept that Turkey has many problems. There are Kyrgyz people living in Turkey, Van, Ulupamir town who immigrated. ;)
can you tell me why there are so many Kyrgyz in Ulupamir? what made them come to Turkey? how many are there?
also for the Uzbeks, how hard is it for you to learn Turkish?
erkinturk
07-26-2007, 02:17 PM
can you tell me why there are so many Kyrgyz in Ulupamir? what made them come to Turkey? how many are there?
also for the Uzbeks, how hard is it for you to learn Turkish?
I don't know the exact numbers of Kirgiz people in East Turkey,but what I've heard that they escaped from East Turkistan after chinese invasion,
like Uyghurs and Kazaks they first came to Pakistan and then after a while they moved to settle in Turkiye,
I don't believe any one of the Turkic languages is difficult for the other Turkics
It is just a matter of months you become fully able to understand your brothers language,
learning slang may take a bit longer though!
but you should not wory about it at all!
corsair
12-24-2007, 08:11 PM
i wouldnt mind to immigrate to turkey, turkish ladies are very beautiful...
Uyyonli
02-21-2008, 09:52 PM
I think we should open big Castilia's in Russia and have multiple numbers of childeren from Uzb/Kaz/Kyrg/Turkmenistan and other Turkic states and in 21-31 years let's say 2 million Turkic families move into Russia and have 10 babies each family there will be 11 million adults to have some more expansion
:D Yep do the math u will see :lol:
corsair
02-22-2008, 02:09 PM
salem!
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Rahmat
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