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naughty
07-26-2001, 08:21 AM
THE ISLAMIC UNITY

The Islamic Unity is the most important issue which concerns all Muslims in accordance with their degrees and social positions. Because The Islamic Unity is not a political issue only. This Unity starts from the bonds and solidarity between two Muslims due to their brotherhood-in-faith and reaches to the cooperation and mutual assistance among all Muslims throughout the entire Islamic World.

Our Religion, our nation, our countries can only be protected from all kinds of dangers and enemies through the enormous Power which will be generated by the religious brotherhood and solidarity of Muslims and this will serve to the general Global Peace.

That is the reason why the enemies who cannot resist against this material and spiritual Power, try to destroy the Unity and the Solidarity of the Islamic World in order to break this power into parts, using all types of trickery and stratagems.

Therefore, we must stay vigilant against the corruptive incitements of such defeatists and learn the meaning and the contents and the importance of the Islamic Brotherhood which was commanded very seriously by our Religion and we must display zeal to act in accordance with this Brotherhood.

The following verse of the Quran is attracting our attention to the fact that great mischiefs and disasters will happen if mutual assistance and solidarity amongst the Muslims are not achieved. :

"And the unbelievers are allies (protectors) of each other. Unless you do this (protect each other), there would be Tumult and Oppression on Earth, and great Mischief." (Quran, 8:73)

The Religion of Islam has brought important duties and rules which result in Mutual Assistance. For example, the Pilgrimage (Hajj) is of utmost importance for developing the Spirit of Mutual Assistance and the Unity of Muslims.
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Read more about ISLAMIC UNITY
http://www.risale-inur.com.tr/rnk/eng/kucuk/unity.htm
http://www.risale-inur.com.tr/rnk/eng/letters/22letter.htm

Overloaded
07-26-2001, 09:11 AM
He-he.

Muslims are not homogeneous at all. They have extremely different views on not only democracy and justice, but also Islam itself.

I am not going to support anybody just because he has the same confession. Having same confession is not sufficient condition to unite with anybody. Escpecially when it is declared:

"The Islamic Unity is not a political issue only"
and there is a lot of talking about some kind of "enemies".

Moreover, calls like above is nothing more than an attempt to use believers in order to get advantage in politician's dirty work.

naughty
07-26-2001, 09:18 AM
"calls like above is nothing more than an attempt to use believers in order to get advantage in politician's dirty work."

what does it mean?
One of priciples of the author is "Auzu billahi minash shaytani vas siyasati" (Shayton va Siyosat sharridan Allohga sig'inaman)
did you read 22 th letter. i reccomend you to read it.
and then say your opinion
N

Komsomolec
07-26-2001, 09:37 AM
Unfortunately the worst enemies of ISLAM are not the outsiders, but rather those who claim to be the "True Muslims".
There were times that made
"Bukhoro - quvvati Islomi dinast"!
That's because our ancestors were able to understand and promote the best values of ISLAM, free of fundamentalism, prejudice etc.
That is why their teachings were respected all over the Islamic world.
We either regain that great role, or keep being victims of the Southern Influence sponsored by the ones who turned Islam into Big International business and power struggle.

Overloaded
07-26-2001, 10:05 AM
OK, Naughty.

What can I say? Very good aspects. I can accept unity with those who follows them. But problem is that even author's of aspects do not follow them.

For example,

SiXTH ASPECT

Spiritual life and correctness of worship will suffer as a result of enmity and rancour, since the purity of intention that is the means of salvation will be damaged. For a biased person will desire superiority over his enemy in the good deeds that he performs and will be unable to act purely for the sake of God. He will also prefer, in his judgement and dealings, the one who takes his side; he will be unable to be just. Thus the purity of intention and the justice that are the fundaments of all good acts and deeds will be lost on account of enmity and hostility.

From which follows: we should not declare unification of Muslims just because there are people of different confessions (enemies), who are currently more prosperious then we are.

I totally agree with Komsomolec , when he says:
"Unfortunately the worst enemies of ISLAM are not the outsiders, but rather those who claim to be the "True Muslims"."

Just wonna add: "some politicians too, who make most of the damage to their own nations".

It is easy to blame people of other confessions in our poverty and failures, but let's first try to be honest and say that there is nobody to be blamed , but us.

naughty
07-26-2001, 10:11 AM
dear my friends these words belong to the author:
"All thanks be to Allah, The Exalted, I would sacrifice my salvation for the society's safety in the belief. I am neither fond of paradise, nor afraid of hell. May a thousands Saids be sacrificed for the belief of the society. I don't want a salvation, either. And paradise will become as dungeon about me if the Qur'an becomes followless on earth. But on the contrary I will be pleased, and agree with being burnt in the fires of the hell, if I know that the belief of the nation will be in safety."
SAID NUR

THE ISLAMIC UNITY
The Islamic Unity is the most important issue which concerns all Muslims in accordance with their degrees and social positions. Because The Islamic Unity is not a political issue only. This Unity starts from the bonds and solidarity between two Muslims due to their brotherhood-in-faith and reaches to the cooperation and mutual assistance among all Muslims throughout the entire Islamic World.

Our Religion, our nation, our countries can only be protected from all kinds of dangers and enemies through the enormous Power which will be generated by the religious brotherhood and solidarity of Muslims and this will serve to the general Global Peace.

That is the reason why the enemies who cannot resist against this material and spiritual Power, try to destroy the Unity and the Solidarity of the Islamic World in order to break this power into parts, using all types of trickery and stratagems.

Therefore, we must stay vigilant against the corruptive incitements of such defeatists and learn the meaning and the contents and the importance of the Islamic Brotherhood which was commanded very seriously by our Religion and we must display zeal to act in accordance with this Brotherhood.

The following verse of the Quran is attracting our attention to the fact that great mischiefs and disasters will happen if mutual assistance and solidarity amongst the Muslims are not achieved. :

"And the unbelievers are allies (protectors) of each other. Unless you do this (protect each other), there would be Tumult and Oppression on Earth, and great Mischief." (Quran, 8:73)

The Religion of Islam has brought important duties and rules which result in Mutual Assistance. For example, the Pilgrimage (Hajj) is of utmost importance for developing the Spirit of Mutual Assistance and the Unity of Muslims.
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Read more about author

http://www.risale-inur.com.tr/rnk/eng/tarihce/bsn.htm

Komsomolec
07-26-2001, 10:48 AM
Dear Naughty,
As far as I understant the author talks about unification, so that to resist the "enemies"
Who are those "enemies" and why they are the "enemies"?
What kind of unification is the talk about? In a form of what? Under whose leadership?

naughtyboy
07-27-2001, 01:01 AM
Salam my friend!!!
bu savolga uzbekca javob berishimga ruhsat bersangiz. chunki ba'zi soz'larning Englishda to'ri keladigan vairantini topish qiyin bo'lgani va ba'zi english soz'lar esa asl ma'noni toraytirgani uchun.
Avtor:
Bog'lab turuvchi iplari Tavhidi Ilohiy;
Qasamyod va ahdi paymoni Imon;
Anjuman va camiyatlari va to'planishlari Masjidlar, Madrasalar,
A'zolari umum Mu'minlar;
Nizomnomasi Sunnati RAsululloh (SAV),
Qonuni Shariat ahkomlari;
bo'lgan bir Unification (Ittihodi ISlom) haqida gapiradi.

Bu Birlik haqida gapirar ekan hech qanday siyosiy manfaatni nazarda tutmagan va undan juda uzoq saqlangan holda aytgan.
ZOtan uning eng ahamiyatli pritsiplaridan biri ham "Auzu billahi minash shaytoni vas siyasati" (SHayton va Siyosat sharridan Allohga sig'inaman) dir
for example;
"Beware, my brothers! Do not fancy or imagine that I am urging you with these words to busy yourselves with politics. God forbid! The truth of Islam is above all politics"

So my friend i think more question may be asked on this subject so read all the article here
http://www.risale-inur.com.tr/rnk/eng/kucuk/sermon/sermon.htm
OR
http://www.risale-inur.com/en/ (Damascus Seremon)

and then if you have question ask me.

P.S and I think if you know arabic OR Turkish i recommend you to read them from these languages in order to understand better
Ehtirom ila
N

Komsomolec
07-27-2001, 08:26 AM
Hurmatli Naughty,
Sizga bir narsa aytamanda, siz meni toghri tushinishga harakat kiling.
Men o'zim Musilmon bola turib hakikatda akli o'tkir, haetni tushunishi chukur bolgan mullalarni juda kam korganman.
Men rostdan ham bilim va tushunishlariga koil kolgan imom bu - avvalgi Muft Muhammad Sodyk Muhammad Yusuf edi.
Kopincha mullalar bilan "Dinimni tushinishim chukurrok bolsin" degan niyatda gap ochsam - bir hil narsa boladi. Nima bolishini sizga "obrazno" aytay:
Qarib kolgan, hech kaerga shoshilmayabkan Mulla Imom menga bir katta lagan tola konfet uzatadi, va u laganni ichida yana bir necha tarakan ham boladi. U menga "Ol, ye, bu shirin, bu sen uchun yaratilgan deydi". Men "Rahmat, bu meni eng sevgan konfetim" deyman. Keyin "Nimaga bu erda mana bu tarakan bor?" deb sorayman. Mulla menga "Ol bolam, bu yahshi, bu konfet" deb lagandagi bir necha konfetni sinchiklab koyadi.
Men "Yoq, siz mana bunga karang, men mana bu taranni aytyapman" deb u konfetlar orasidagi tarakanni barmoghim bilan ushlab korsatishga harakat kilaman. Mulla esa laganni chetidan yana bir hovuch konfetni ushlab "Bu juda yahshi konfet" deydi. Men "Hop bilaman, u konfetni ozim ham yahshi koraman, boshka joylardan olib ham eb yuraman. Lekin nimaga siz menga tarakan beryapsiz?" desam Mulla "Yigit bu juda yahshi konfet, shuni ham tushinmaysanmi?" deydi.
Keyin men "Ha yahshi, siz haksiz" deymanda u mullani konfetiga ham karamay ketaman. Huddi osha konfetni ozim boshka erlardan topib yeb yuraman.
Ana shunaka holat birodar.
Naughty, mana siz bilan ham oramizda huddi shunga ohshash narsa boldi.

naughtyboy
07-27-2001, 08:44 AM
Hurmatli Komsomolec!
bunday holat bo'lishi mumkin .Va buning yuzaga kelishi mening Nuqsonim deb bilaman. men ba'zi yerlarda kam gapirib faqat link yozishim sababi ham mening ojiz va nuqsonli va qusurli ifodalarim tufayli ba'zi haqiqatlar qiymatini yo'qotmasligini istamasligim. men agar biror narsani tushuntirmqchi bo'lsam balki mening soz'larim uni ifodalay olmas va shuning uchun kerakli odam uni o'zi o'qisin deya link yozaman va ba'zi izohlardan chekinaman. yuqoridagi mening izohim ham shunga o'hshash va harholda mening nuqsonim gapirgan gapimga yuqqandir ki u sizni qoniqtirmagan. shuning uchun men yana sizga u siteni o'qishni tavsiya qilaman. Oylayman ki mening chala savodimdan farqli o'laroq u yerda qidirgan narsangizni topasiz

agar yuqoridagi qaysidir gaplardan kimdir o'ziga biror yaxshi narsa olgan bo'lsa demakki u o'qigan kitobimning husiyati. agar biror foydasiz so'z bo'la demakki u mening hatoimdir.

Kamoli Hurmat bilan
N

P.S Men ham U kishini JUDA hurmat qilaman. Alloh rozi bo'lsin u zottan.