The Israel lobby: a danger to the world

[Akhee-Abdullah]

Hmm...interesting video...share your thoughts...

The Israel lobby: a danger to the world

[Akhee-Abdullah]

The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy

The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy (http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpaper.nsf/rwp/RWP06-011/$File/rwp_06_011_walt.pdf)

Source: Harvard University School of Law (Government)

http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpaper.nsf/rwp/RWP06-011

[Akhee-Abdullah]

A video on

The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy

[Akhee-Abdullah]

Speeches made by the authors of the Harvard Law School Researchers...

Pro-Israel lobby has warped U.S. policy Pt.1

Pro-Israel lobby has warped U.S. policy Pt.

[Ulug'bek]

Hmm...interesting video...share your thoughts...


The Israel lobby: a danger to the world (http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-5150749836273151943)


Tried to open it and got the following answer , they were very quick to "react" :), which makes sense ! :


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[Akhee-Abdullah]

Ulughbek, Yes They did remove, but we made a remake : ), kicked their butt !!! Now enjoy

[Professor]

Ulughbek, Yes They did remove, but we made a remake : ), kicked their butt !!! Now enjoy (http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=2894821400057137878&q=the+israel+lobby)

Salamun alaykum,
Kayfa halu akhee,

Bularni yozib olishni iloji bormi? Katta rahmat.
Ma assalama

[Akhee-Abdullah]

Salamun alaykum,
Kayfa halu akhee,

Bularni yozib olishni iloji bormi? Katta rahmat.
Ma assalama

Waalaykum salam wa rahmatullah,

Alhamdulillah bi khair.

As for your question:

Click on the download on the right hand, it does download...it...however, you have to watch it in google screen format...not aware if there is a way to burn it on DVD.

If they keep removing it from google.com video by complaining, they cannot remove it from http://www.vpro.nl be sure about this...this is the agency that made this documentary....

Here are the permanent links inshallah:

http://www.vpro.nl/programma/tegenlicht/afleveringen/33882177/media/34024640/

Tegenlicht - The Israeli Lobby (about AIPAC)

Beginning is in Dutch...the rest is all English!!!

Enjoy...do not forget to leave your comments!!!

[Professor]

5th Part of that movie about war in Iraq, Collin Powel who was ranked next to Mother Teresa in 2003 made a powerful presentation in the UN assuring all bodies about WMD presence in Iraq, people believed to him, if Powel said so it so it's a truth. I pray that there will be a time for "American Most Wanted" Deck of Playing Cards, including Bush, Powel, Wolfowits, Ramsfeld, Cheney and other butchers.

[berlusconi]

Actually, many in America are well aware of this lobby and grow tire of it, especially after this administration

[Delf]

Tried to open it and got the following answer , they were very quick to "react" :), which makes sense ! :





Guys, post it on Digg.com with title "Google is censoring videos".
Let everyone know.

Delf.

[Dani]

Да, евреи в основном хорошие люди, просто хитрее других, поэтому и мир за яйца держут. А мы сколько не трубили об еврейском заговоре, от этого ничего не изменится. Сколько бы собака не лаяла, караван как говорится будет продолжать идти...

[Akhee-Abdullah]

Да, евреи в основном хорошие люди, просто хитрее других, поэтому и мир за яйца держут. А мы сколько не трубили об еврейском заговоре, от этого ничего не изменится. Сколько бы собака не лаяла, караван как говорится будет продолжать идти...

Dani,

This is not about a Jewish conspiracy!!! I would not have posted this if that was the case...I am posting a research of 2 well known Political Professors of Harvard University and University of Chicago...

They are far from being called conspirators or anti-semites...plus this research is not a about Jewish Conspiracy...it is about the influence of Israel Lobby on the U.S foreign policy...

Please, read the article first, or watch the videos...then we shall discuss them...point by point...

Regards,

Akhee-Abdullah

[Dani]

Dani,

This is not about a Jewish conspiracy!!! I would not have posted this if that was the case...I am posting a research of 2 well known Political Professors of Harvard University and University of Chicago...

They are far from being called conspirators or anti-semites...plus this research is not a about Jewish Conspiracy...it is about the influence of Israel Lobby on the U.S foreign policy...

Please, read the article first, or watch the videos...then we shall discuss them...point by point...

Regards,

Akhee-Abdullah

Да, успокойся Ахи Абдулла, ты что такой нервный. Читал я эту статью, ещё в прошлом году и она стала предметом обсуждения в моем университете. Израильском лобби это и есть одна из форм проявления Jewish Conspiracy. Ты что думаешь что influence of Israel Lobby on the U.S foreign policy не имеет никакого политического значения и не предполагает никаких последствия для событий происходящих в мире? Все взаимосвязано. И этот research of 2 well known Political Professors of Harvard University and University of Chicago предполагает такую возможность. Думаешь что эти профессора просто исследовали и публикует, нет это одна из форм критики израильского сионизма или заговора whatever короче.

И не надо быть таким агрессивным, у тебя такое благородное имя, я был другого мнения о тебе. Теория об еврейском или сионитском заговоре было есть и будем и мы вместе с этим будем и ничего не подделаем с этим, как не печально.

Алейкум салам!

[Akhee-Abdullah]

Да, успокойся Ахи Абдулла, ты что такой нервный. Читал я эту статью, ещё в прошлом году и она стала предметом обсуждения в моем университете. Израильском лобби это и есть одна из форм проявления Jewish Conspiracy. Ты что думаешь что influence of Israel Lobby on the U.S foreign policy не имеет никакого политического значения и не предполагает никаких последствия для событий происходящих в мире? Все взаимосвязано. И этот research of 2 well known Political Professors of Harvard University and University of Chicago предполагает такую возможность. Думаешь что эти профессора просто исследовали и публикует, нет это одна из форм критики израильского сионизма или заговора whatever короче.

И не надо быть таким агрессивным, у тебя такое благородное имя, я был другого мнения о тебе. Теория об еврейском или сионитском заговоре было есть и будем и мы вместе с этим будем и ничего не подделаем с этим, как не печально.

Алейкум салам!

Waalaykum salam wa rahmatullah Dani,

Let's stick to the topic, please. I do not respect people, who talk personally rather than the matter at hand. I am hopefull you do not get offended by that statement. I am used to speaking what goes in my mind.

To proceed:

The crux of the research has nothing to do with zionizm, nor with jewish conspiracy. In fact, it is about Israeli Lobby in the U.S...also let me point out they, the authors do not HATE the Jewish people, neither do I.

Criticizing Israeli policy and agression against the Palestinians does not result in or amount for one being anti-Samite or anti-Jewish! How can an arab or jew become an anti-semite if s/he criticizes an internal and foreign Israeli policy...if s/he himself is Samite ...this is not the point anyways, I am sure we are in agreement on that point, and I am not claiming that you wrote or meant that.

Israeli Lobby is made up of AIPAC, Christians United for Israel, Evangelical Christian groups, Christian Zionists and other private/religious, nationalist orgs.

As you can see, it is not about Jewish people...It goes beyond American Jewry, it encompasses Christian and other Non-Jewish groups...

Another point is whenever a Muslim posts a topic like this, people tend to assume that he is bluffing conspiracy, this was also your reaction Dani, correct me if I am wrong, ie, there is always assumption that a MUSLIM hates all Jewish people. That's not the case, and you know Dani very well, that Islam prohibits hating people! Including Jewish people. You know very well that Islam teaches that Children of Israel were Muslims...they followed the canon of Moses (peace be upon him) who himself professed the religion of Islaam. When the Qur'an talks about the mischief of Jewish people, it particularly refers to those Jewish people who opposed the canon of Moses (peace be upon him)...so we do not hate JEWISH people, we dislike any one who opposes the divine teachings and does mischief on earth, be that a Christian, a Sunni Muslim, a Shia, a Jew, an atheist, an Englishman, an Uzbek! Does not matter, disbelievers have many different religions and they have many nationalities...Believers have a singular religion and many different nationalities...

Be assured that, I am not conspiracist : ), I am a very skeptic person when it comes to debatable topics.

Back to the topic, in the video, several Jewish people criticize the Israel Lobby in the US, also please remember there are thousands of Jewish people around the world who oppose Israeli State and its apartheid regime in the Middle Eastern Palestine...

Let's do not beat around the bush...let's discuss the topic...this is not about conspiracy...if you doubt re-read the article!

If the articles were written by me or some "islamic fundamentalist" or some "white supremacist", I would not have posted this thread!

I want to reiterate again, TWO AUTHORITIES, WELL-KNOWN, RESPECTED SCHOLARS of POLITICAL SCIENCE, from Harvard University and University of Chicago, had authored this research! The text of the research were shared with the critics team before they were published for any scientific errors or sloppy "scientific work."


I am sorry, if I am off the track, or nailing the same point over and over...I wanted to get my point across!

Regards,

Akhee-Abdullah.

[Dani]

Waalaykum salam wa rahmatullah Dani,

Let's stick to the topic, please. I do not respect people, who talk personally rather than the matter at hand. I am hopefull you do not get offended by that statement. I am used to speaking what goes in my mind.

To proceed:

The crux of the research has nothing to do with zionizm, nor with jewish conspiracy. In fact, it is about Israeli Lobby in the U.S...also let me point out they, the authors do not HATE the Jewish people, neither do I.

Criticizing Israeli policy and agression against the Palestinians does not result in or amount for one being anti-Samite or anti-Jewish! How can an arab or jew become an anti-semite if s/he criticizes an internal and foreign Israeli policy...if s/he himself is Samite ...this is not the point anyways, I am sure we are in agreement on that point, and I am not claiming that you wrote or meant that.

Israeli Lobby is made up of AIPAC, Christians United for Israel, Evangelical Christian groups, Christian Zionists and other private/religious, nationalist orgs.

As you can see, it is not about Jewish people...It goes beyond American Jewry, it encompasses Christian and other Non-Jewish groups...

Another point is whenever a Muslim posts a topic like this, people tend to assume that he is bluffing conspiracy, this was also your reaction Dani, correct me if I am wrong, ie, there is always assumption that a MUSLIM hates all Jewish people. That's not the case, and you know Dani very well, that Islam prohibits hating people! Including Jewish people. You know very well that Islam teaches that Children of Israel were Muslims...they followed the canon of Moses (peace be upon him) who himself professed the religion of Islaam. When the Qur'an talks about the mischief of Jewish people, it particularly refers to those Jewish people who opposed the canon of Moses (peace be upon him)...so we do not hate JEWISH people, we dislike any one who opposes the divine teachings and does mischief on earth, be that a Christian, a Sunni Muslim, a Shia, a Jew, an atheist, an Englishman, an Uzbek! Does not matter, disbelievers have many different religions and they have many nationalities...Believers have a singular religion and many different nationalities...

Be assured that, I am not conspiracist : ), I am a very skeptic person when it comes to debatable topics.

Back to the topic, in the video, several Jewish people criticize the Israel Lobby in the US, also please remember there are thousands of Jewish people around the world who oppose Israeli State and its apartheid regime in the Middle Eastern Palestine...

Let's do not beat around the bush...let's discuss the topic...this is not about conspiracy...if you doubt re-read the article!

If the articles were written by me or some "islamic fundamentalist" or some "white supremacist", I would not have posted this thread!

I want to reiterate again, TWO AUTHORITIES, WELL-KNOWN, RESPECTED SCHOLARS of POLITICAL SCIENCE, from Harvard University and University of Chicago, had authored this research! The text of the research were shared with the critics team before they were published for any scientific errors or sloppy "scientific work."


I am sorry, if I am off the track, or nailing the same point over and over...I wanted to get my point across!

Regards,

Akhee-Abdullah.

Успокойся Абдулла, никто не говорит что ты не любишь евреев и не надо оправдыватся. Я лишь хочу сказать что они держат мир за яйца. Почему ? Потому что имеют огромное влияние на такую супердержаву как США. Очень умные люди! И не важно кто написал эту статью, да хоть сам президент США. Ничего это не меняет. Евреи почти правят миром, и скоро если осилят китайцев, то станут абсолютными хозяевами мира. Если ты знаешь историю хорошо, то однажды во времена правления Абд ал-Малика, они чуть не поменяли киблу с Мекки на Иерусалим. Когда последнее слово было за халифом, но евреи сыграли не последнюю роль. Вот. А так все тип-топ. Кстати в еврейских ресторанах здесь в Лондоне очень хорошо готовят. Сходи, советую... :)

[Professor]

Успокойся Абдулла, никто не говорит что ты не любишь евреев и не надо оправдыватся. Я лишь хочу сказать что они держат мир за яйца. Почему ? Потому что имеют огромное влияние на такую супердержаву как США. Очень умные люди! И не важно кто написал эту статью, да хоть сам президент США. Ничего это не меняет. Евреи почти правят миром, и скоро если осилят китайцев, то станут абсолютными хозяевами мира. Если ты знаешь историю хорошо, то однажды во времена правления Абд ал-Малика, они чуть не поменяли киблу с Мекки на Иерусалим. Когда последнее слово было за халифом, но евреи сыграли не последнюю роль. Вот. А так все тип-топ. Кстати в еврейских ресторанах здесь в Лондоне очень хорошо готовят. Сходи, советую... :)
Vot,vot...nasha zadacha ne dat im iz etih yaytsev zdelat omleti, a yeshe luchshe yesli mi sami budem ih kontrolirovat.:D A tak v etom filme bila odna ochen horoshaya fraza...Eventhough jewish annoyed too much the Roman empire still they didn't react. But at the end they demolished their temples, killed thousands of them and forced them to move. Later or soon Israel will be doomed to it's own historical and traditional fate...I hope:)

[Convert]

Vot,vot...nasha zadacha ne dat im iz etih yaytsev zdelat omleti, a yeshe luchshe yesli mi sami budem ih kontrolirovat.:D A tak v etom filme bila odna ochen horoshaya fraza...Eventhough jewish annoyed too much the Roman empire still they didn't react. But at the end they demolished their temples, killed thousands of them and forced them to move. Later or soon Israel will be doomed to it's own historical and traditional fate...I hope:)

Dumayu chto eto ne pod silu "goyam" (otvet otrazhaet antisemitskie tsitati yakobi vzyatie iz Talmuda, privedenie toboi v odnom iz tredov etogo foruma).:D

[ILAH1]

i think israeli lobby not against uzbekistan not danger to world uzbekistan make israel good change influence positive, if strong maybe turkic union, make negotiate peace agreement in middle east help israel palestine too!

[Iqbol]

Soros on the same topic
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/20030

[ILAH1]

Soros on the same topic
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/20030

He doesn't say that AIPAC is bad. he says it made mistakes. that's different. i think AIPAC should support pro peace policy, reconciliation with muslims, but definitely not dissolve...

[berlusconi]

i think israeli lobby not against uzbekistan not danger to world uzbekistan make israel good change influence positive, if strong maybe turkic union, make negotiate peace agreement in middle east help israel palestine too!

hmm I thought Israel liked Turkic countries?
aren't some Israeli's descendants of Turkic Khazars?

[ILAH1]

hmm I thought Israel liked Turkic countries?
aren't some Israeli's descendants of Turkic Khazars?

yes, israel likes turkic countries very much. some are khazars but most aren't. Juhuri are sepharadic, come from babylon (iraq) exile.