Tourism in Uzbekistan

[StU]

Azerbaijan pustil reklamku po CNN, privlekaya turistov v stranu:
YouTube - Azerbaijan ad on CNN

Sdelano ochen krasivo. (i dochka prezidentskaya zasvetilas)

Tak pochemu u nas, gde potenziala na 200% bolshe nikto i nikogda ne cheshetsa :rolleyes:..

[R.Azimov]

Azerbaijan pustil reklamku po CNN, privlekaya turistov v stranu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNjpzHVrANg

Sdelano ochen krasivo. (i dochka prezidentskaya zasvetilas)

Tak pochemu u nas, gde potenziala na 200% bolshe nikto i nikogda ne cheshetsa :rolleyes:..
Dunyokezar aholisi bor davlatlarning xalqi "travel packet"larga qarab ko'radi oldin.
Egypt ga 1 haftalik sayohat "return ticket"i bilan 400 dollar bo'lsa,
Uzbekistonga "one way ticket" 400 dollar bo'lsa, qaysisiga borasiz??

Qancha reklama qilmang foydasi yo'q.

Uzb.dagi elchixonalari bor davlatlarning web sahifalarida qip qizil qilib "DANGER", - deb yozib qo'yilgan bo'lsa. Qovunlar kimga ishonadi keyin, tour kompaniyalargami yoki o'zlarining elchixonalarigami?

Uning ustiga ikkinchi tomonda Google dan qidirib ko'raman desangiz chala muxolifatning "palonchani nohaq qamadi, pistonchaga azob berayapti, YORDAM.... degan nolalari pilq etib chiqaversa... Qanday qilib rivojlantiradi deysiz turizmni.

Baraka topishsin harakat qilishayapti imkon boricha. (

P.s: Siz bilasizmi hatto ov uyushtirish kabilar taklif qilinadigan packet lar ham bo'lgan edi bir vaqtlar.. ;)


P.s: Optop bo'lsa uzre
RA

[Vezunchik]

Tak pochemu u nas, gde potenziala na 200% bolshe nikto i nikogda ne cheshetsa :rolleyes:..

Na fone Afganistana, Pakistana i Irana vot eti 200% ni kak ne tyanit na 200%.
Tochno takje mojno reklamirovat kakoy to Rayskiy plyaj v Amazonke, gde cherez 100 metrov Blagopoluchno Jivet i razmnojaetsya semeystva Krokodilov, kotori`e uje 2 mesyatsa ne ujinali kak polojeno!!!


U nas 3 raza otmechalsya rost Turisticheskih potokov, no kajdi`y raz vsyo idet na puh i prah posle ocherednogo vzri`va Bombi`. a posledniy rost zamechalsya do Andijana.

Esho v 1993godu mi` planirovali vi`yti na uroven 4-5 millionov turistov uje k 2000 godu. No uvi`, Razmechtalis.

2005 godu 600 000 (i to dvoynoy raschet) Turistov posetili Uzbekistan, kogda Kirgiziyu posetili 1 000 000.
V etom godu Loooooserami mojno schitat uje obeih stran.

Udivetelno, no Kazahi turistam pokazi`vayut tolko Movzoley Ahmad Yassaviy i Pustini`yu, no turisti` klyut. A u nas stolko chego, no v polnom g"vne.

[StU]

well then let's sit and feel sorry for ourselves. :(

[Doctor]

оддий узбек визасини олиш канча азоб, иш билан келаетганлар огани кийналадику, туризм билан келадиганларга хайф бусин

[Vezunchik]

оддий узбек визасини олиш канча азоб, иш билан келаетганлар огани кийналадику, туризм билан келадиганларга хайф бусин


naibolshee kolichestva zaprosov nashim vizam obi`chno ranshe bi`valo ot Pakistana i Turtsii.
No uchiti`vaya rellegiozni`y i politicheskiy podoplyoku , modno im otkazi`vat.

A evropeytsam obi`chno malo otkazov.

A amerikantsam otkazat stalo modno posle Andijana.

[Arhimed]

Turizm rivojlanishi uchun,

1) Rivojlangan davaltlardan keladiganlarga bez vizoviy rejim bo'lishi kerak
2) Sanitationga katta etibor berish kerak. Hojathona, oshhonalar bundan holi emas.
3) ATMlar bir tekkis ishlab turishi kerak

[Gateway]

Turizm rivojlanishi uchun,

1) Rivojlangan davaltlardan keladiganlarga bez vizoviy rejim bo'lishi kerak
2) Sanitationga katta etibor berish kerak. Hojathona, oshhonalar bundan holi emas.
3) ATMlar bir tekkis ishlab turishi kerak

Ya by skazal samoe vajnoe eto (i) bezopastnost' and (ii) nalichie infrastruktuty dlya turisma.
Ya pomnyu v ramkah sotrudnichestva s EU by; prinyat postanovlenie KM ob oblegchenie vydachi viz dlya turistov iz EU.
Obychno, poluchit' turisticheskuyu vizu v UZB ne tak uj trudno.

[Madalio'g'li]

Misol, (1000 Euro)
7 kun, 6 kecha...
(Aslida 5 kun, 5 kecha desa bo'ladi shakilli...)

Linklar Turk Tilida...

http://www.irfanturizm.com/turlar/ozbekistan.htm


Batafsil;

http://www.irfanturizm.com/turlar/ozbekistan_tur_program.htm

http://www.irfanturizm.com/turlar/ozbekistan_tur_sartlar.htm

http://www.irfanturizm.com/turlar/ozbekistan_ziyaret_noktalari.htm


Turk tilini biladigan forumdoshlar, programni qanday deysiz? :rolleyes:

[Vezunchik]

A bu sila taklif qilayotgan sohalani rivojlantirish uchun kamida 3-5 yil davomida 1-2 milliarddan sarflash kerak. Kimda pul bor. Hotya juda rentabel soha (Agar region tinch bo`lsa)

Uzbekturizmni tashqi kreditlar bo`yicha qarzi boshida oshib yotibdi.
Daje o`zini reklamasini qilish uchun Davlatdan 40-60 ming $ so`rab yuribdi. Vi`stavka , Yarmarkalarga borishga puli yo`q.

Kotta Holasi pul tikadimi:)))) har 2 yilda bombala portilab tursa:))))

[melo]

No need to advertise until the government actually is willing to let foreigners visit. And when they come you can't follow them around, harass them everythwere they go, and try to find ways to kick them out. The whole process needs to be easier because Uzbekistan should be a toruism giant. There are wonderful places, great people, and a wonderful culture. It's just the beauracracy and paranoia that get in the way. Who wants to go there when you can go to lots of other great places very easily and without frustration.

[noodles]

qanaqa bezopasnost'? sila opkelila normal'niy turistlani, man ozim qancha kere bosa bezopasnost bilan taminlab beraman =) yaponla kelib yuriptiyu tishini davolatgani hicham qorqmasdan...

ps: lyuboy night clubga borsela o'ldim deganda 5-6 ta inostranec bor... kechasi, night clubda... agar qorqishi kere bosa shunaqa joylada yurishdan qorqishi kere... kunduzi borib u-bu joylani rasmga olishdanmas...

[Gateway]

qanaqa bezopasnost'? sila opkelila normal'niy turistlani, man ozim qancha kere bosa bezopasnost bilan taminlab beraman =) yaponla kelib yuriptiyu tishini davolatgani hicham qorqmasdan...

ps: lyuboy night clubga borsela o'ldim deganda 5-6 ta inostranec bor... kechasi, night clubda... agar qorqishi kere bosa shunaqa joylada yurishdan qorqishi kere... kunduzi borib u-bu joylani rasmga olishdanmas...

K sojeleniyu nikto ne smojet' garantirovat' cho vse turisty priesjayushie v UZB budut soprovojdeny 'Genius'om, kotoriy obespechivaet polnuyu bezopastnost'! :D

Dlya inostrantsa kotoriy nahoditsya v U.S. or EU Internert and Mass Media are the main sources of information about our country and tourism in UZB and not your personal guarantee.

Regards,

[melo]

qanaqa bezopasnost'? sila opkelila normal'niy turistlani, man ozim qancha kere bosa bezopasnost bilan taminlab beraman =) yaponla kelib yuriptiyu tishini davolatgani hicham qorqmasdan...

ps: lyuboy night clubga borsela o'ldim deganda 5-6 ta inostranec bor... kechasi, night clubda... agar qorqishi kere bosa shunaqa joylada yurishdan qorqishi kere... kunduzi borib u-bu joylani rasmga olishdanmas...

So- because their were some creepy foreigners hanging out in night clubs that means that lots of tourists come to Uzbekistan? :lol: And that people think it is safe? People go to night clubs in the US and that definitey isn't safe. I don't think safety is the reason people don't go to Uzbekistan. I would say language barriers, difficulty in getting visas, basic tourist infrastructure (hotels, transportation), people have never heard of Uzbekistan before, getting there is difficult, etc. These are the reasons people are not coming.

[StU]

No need to advertise until the government actually is willing to let foreigners visit. And when they come you can't follow them around, harass them everythwere they go, and try to find ways to kick them out. The whole process needs to be easier because Uzbekistan should be a toruism giant. There are wonderful places, great people, and a wonderful culture. It's just the beauracracy and paranoia that get in the way. Who wants to go there when you can go to lots of other great places very easily and without frustration.

may be you're right. and there will be only random chances (such as victory of Chagaev) to be proud of our own country.

[melo]

may be you're right. and there will be only random chances (such as victory of Chagaev) to be proud of our own country.

I'm not saying that- there is plenty to be proud of. It just doesn't seem like there is any priority to let others see it. Not every country wants tourism.

Its like coming to the US. People will go through the embarassment of the visa and travel process because they can make money or get a good education. Its not necessarily worth the trouble just for a vacation.

[Arhimed]

A bu sila taklif qilayotgan sohalani rivojlantirish uchun kamida 3-5 yil davomida 1-2 milliarddan sarflash kerak. Kimda pul bor. Hotya juda rentabel soha (Agar region tinch bo`lsa)

Uzbekturizmni tashqi kreditlar bo`yicha qarzi boshida oshib yotibdi.
Daje o`zini reklamasini qilish uchun Davlatdan 40-60 ming $ so`rab yuribdi. Vi`stavka , Yarmarkalarga borishga puli yo`q.

Kotta Holasi pul tikadimi:)))) har 2 yilda bombala portilab tursa:))))


Hitoy deysizmi, yo falastin deysizmi, ularda ham bunaqa narsalar ko'p bo'ladi. hatto o'sha Turkiya va Misrni o'zida O'zbekistondan ko'p portlash bo'ladi. Eng asosiysi EU va US bilan san manga bormaslik kerak shunda black listda bo'lmaymiz.

Undan tashqari, turist bo'lib faqat EU yo US emas, balki arablar ham ko'p yurishadi. Samarqand, Buhara desangiz juda yahshi bilishadi, faqat u davlatlarda promotion olib borilmaydi.


O'zbekistonda bo'lgan portlashlarni qandaydir Al-qaedachilar yo osmondan tushgan nomalum odamlar qilmaganku. Juda kulgili. Statskiy osvetnik kinosiga juda ham o'hshab ketadi


hamma muammo borib tepaga taqaladi. Agar ochiq bozor iqtisodi va tadbirkorlar huquqlari himoya qilinadigan davlat bo'lganda alla qachon investorlar bu sohani gullatib yuborar edi, chunki potential bor foyda olishga

[Vezunchik]

Rebyata vi` shutite?
Oni ne boyatsya fizicheski. U nih pisihologicheskiy boyazn ot regiona. Tipa fon agressi. Da mnogie (voobsheto k nam prihodyat yapontsi` i nemtsi` v osovnom, no te kotori`e veryat v Tur Agentsvta, a ne internet. To est , stariki) obrazovanni`e , molodi`e, tot segment turisticheskogo potoka kotori`y bolshe tratit deneg ne idut. Tak kak, oni umeyut kovi`ryatsya v internete i chitat gazeti`. Oni dumayut chto Afganistan, Pakistan i Uzbekistan odno i toje.

A eti slepi`e kotyonki, starichki oni ideut tak kak veryat v ih Tur Agentsva.

No glavnaya problema imenno v etih Bolshih tur operatorah. Mnogie iz nih vremenno udalili iz svoey sistemi Bronya udalili Uzbekistan.
A eta ochen vajno v sisteme turizma. Tak kak, oni i obespechivayut bolshoy potok turistov.

Na sshet Diskobarov. Tam v osnovnom sidyat rabotniki predstavitelstv i posolstv. oni ne turisti`. Ih ne tak uj volnuyet vopros bezopasnosti. I v printspi`pe u nashih dorogih Diskobarah ne tak uj strashno. Oni prihodyat, vi`pyut ne mnojko, snimayut devok i obratno k sebe ili gostinitsu. Oni ne tak uj silno obshayutsya ili kontaktiruyut s Aborigenami (s molodimi nashimi uzbekami, s nami) iz Diskobarov.

[Vezunchik]

Hitoy deysizmi, yo falastin deysizmi, ularda ham bunaqa narsalar ko'p bo'ladi. hatto o'sha Turkiya va Misrni o'zida O'zbekistondan ko'p portlash bo'ladi. Eng asosiysi EU va US bilan san manga bormaslik kerak shunda black listda bo'lmaymiz.

Undan tashqari, turist bo'lib faqat EU yo US emas, balki arablar ham ko'p yurishadi. Samarqand, Buhara desangiz juda yahshi bilishadi, faqat u davlatlarda promotion olib borilmaydi.


O'zbekistonda bo'lgan portlashlarni qandaydir Al-qaedachilar yo osmondan tushgan nomalum odamlar qilmaganku. Juda kulgili. Statskiy osvetnik kinosiga juda ham o'hshab ketadi


hamma muammo borib tepaga taqaladi. Agar ochiq bozor iqtisodi va tadbirkorlar huquqlari himoya qilinadigan davlat bo'lganda alla qachon investorlar bu sohani gullatib yuborar edi, chunki potential bor foyda olishga

Imenno shunaqa Investorla bilan gaplashganman. Ulani gapi bu. Yani hotyabi` 5 yil portlami tursa , siyosatila normalni`y bo`lib tursa Turistlani topardik degandi.
Keyingi muammo. Bizada narhlar baland, yani seredniy klass tur.potokni prevlikat qilish qiyin.

Arablar masalasiga kelsak. Arblar musulmon davlatlariga juda kam boradi. Ular uchun US va UK va Frantsiya, 90% potok faqat shu erga.

Qora listga tushmaslikni pochti iloji yo`q. bizning region shunaqangi geopolitik joydagi, baribir kimningdur qora listiga tushamiz: US, Rossiya, Hittoy, Eron, Pokistion.... Kimgadur yomonmiz, chunki bularning o`zi bir biri bilan yomon.
Mana US, EU bilan yahshi bo`ldik. i cho??? Boyib ketdikmi, Investorla keldimi?? 4-5 yil Ekonomika rasvo bo`ldiku?!!!! Okazi`vaetsya ne US a Rossiya dlya nas Ri`nok. Tak kak, mi` slishkom malenkaya shtuchka, chtob US nam posmotrel kak na babu smotryat. Oni prishli, Bazu postroili, tsenu sdelali 50$ vsem kashkadarinskim Devkam i muh lovili, lejali na svoih bazah. Ni kakoy Investor ne prishel, krome Zarafshan Newmont, i Oxis... i Goldfish..., kotori`e pokupali zoloto i uran po brosovi`m tsenam. Tolko nam ni kakoy.

[Temur]

Misol, (1000 Euro)
7 kun, 6 kecha...
(Aslida 5 kun, 5 kecha desa bo'ladi shakilli...)

Linklar Turk Tilida...

http://www.irfanturizm.com/turlar/ozbekistan.htm


Batafsil;

http://www.irfanturizm.com/turlar/ozbekistan_tur_program.htm

http://www.irfanturizm.com/turlar/ozbekistan_tur_sartlar.htm

http://www.irfanturizm.com/turlar/ozbekistan_ziyaret_noktalari.htm


Turk tilini biladigan forumdoshlar, programni qanday deysiz? :rolleyes:

ustat samalyot neraning? turk havoyollari mi? ozbek yahud orsmu? meninche program yaxshi makul. koprak turistik yer bor.

[Maroon]

Konechno turistov ne takuj mnogo no oni est'. Muj poehal ne davno v Samarkand i on skazal chto tam bilo ochen mnogo instrancov.

If tourism were developed this country would blossom. Takie mojno veshi sdelat, vah vah. Ya toje ob etom zadumalas ne davno, so many ideas came to my mind...:D

Azeri molodci. Mne ponravilos ih reklama, hochu teper tuda poehat. :)

P.S Leyla (dochka presidenta AZ) ochen sexy. :D

[Vezunchik]

Konechno turistov ne takuj mnogo no oni est'. Muj poehal ne davno v Samarkand i on skazal chto tam bilo ochen mnogo instrancov.

If tourism were developed this country would blossom. Takie mojno veshi sdelat, vah vah. Ya toje ob etom zadumalas ne davno, so many ideas came to my mind...:D

Azeri molodci. Mne ponravilos ih reklama, hochu teper tuda poehat. :)

P.S Leyla (dochka presidenta AZ, ochen sexy. :D )


Yesli ne oshibayus v uzbekistane 5 ti`syacha Areheologicheskih-istoricheski-kulturni`h stroeniy (iz nih 300 prosto klass). To est, uchiti`vaya togo chto, oni postroeni` ot 300 do 1500 let nazad to im tseni` netu.
Mojno zarobotat na pkaze etih Monumentov, i samoe glavnoe v tur.service mojno zarabotat kuchu lavov. Nujni` Darogi, Srednie Oteli, Gigienicheskaya Trapeza, i Gidi`. To est, ne takie uj rashodi`.

No Kogda k sojeleniyu Politicheskaya sreda v regione vsyo nam porit do osnovaniya. Afgan i Andijan slomali uj tochno.
Stolko bashkasti`h lyudey ushlo iz etogo biznesa.

[Maroon]

Yesli ne oshibayus v uzbekistane 5 ti`syacha Areheologicheskih-istoricheski-kulturni`h stroeniy (iz nih 300 prosto klass). To est, uchiti`vaya togo chto, oni postroeni` ot 300 do 1500 let nazad to im tseni` netu.
Mojno zarobotat na pkaze etih Monumentov, i samoe glavnoe v tur.service mojno zarabotat kuchu lavov. Nujni` Darogi, Srednie Oteli, Gigienicheskaya Trapeza, i Gidi`. To est, ne takie uj rashodi`.

No Kogda k sojeleniyu Politicheskaya sreda v regione vsyo nam porit do osnovaniya. Afgan i Andijan slomali uj tochno.
Stolko bashkasti`h lyudey ushlo iz etogo biznesa.

U nas ne toka mojno hodit v istoricheskiye mesto, esli sdelat shikarniy lijniy kurort. Imenno SHIKARNIY, sdelar vse luchshe usloviya i t.d i t.p na etom toje mojno dostachno zarabotat.

[Vezunchik]

U nas ne toka mojno hodit v istoricheskiye mesto, esli sdelat shikarniy lijniy kurort. Imenno SHIKARNIY, sdelar vse luchshe usloviya i t.d i t.p na etom toje mojno dostachno zarabotat.

soglasen.
Charvak, zamin, Dolina, .Boysun....
blin, tak jalko, vsyo u nas est.....

no tolko Lyudey ???????????????????????????????????????? tam gde nujno netu.....

[melo]

I don't think that attractions are really a problem. It is just not an easy place to travel to, in or around. The lack of foreign businesses, hotels, retaurants, media is also a problem. Any place that attracts foreign tourists usually has a lot of all of the above.

[Vezunchik]

I don't think that attractions are really a problem. It is just not an easy place to travel to, in or around. The lack of foreign businesses, hotels, retaurants, media is also a problem. Any place that attracts foreign tourists usually has a lot of all of the above.


zapolnyaemost gostinets v Respublike v srednem 30%.
Samarkand Bukhara 50%
Chastni`e 75%


Mest navalom v gostinitsah!!!!

[melo]

The discussion on dangerous conditions is interesting. Just to note, there is abig difference between danger to foreigners and danger to everyone else. Uzbekistan would be one place that there is a higher risk of problems for foreigners and that would be a concern for tourists.

[Prince]

I think Uzbeks will start doing ADs on CNN and other Chanel soon, very soon!
P.S My obichno vse delaem posle vseh :) KZ sdelali horoshiy Ad , vot uje Azeri ppl sdelali , ter nash ochered.....

[Guardian]

Soon it will be better ... hopefully. We, with some friends of mine working on organising a tour to Uzbekistan from EU. If anyone interested about current projects please PM me.

[Professor]

Soon it will be better ... hopefully. We, with some friends of mine working on organising a tour to Uzbekistan from EU. If anyone interested about current projects please PM me.
Guardian, kassir kerak emasmi kassir?:D

Mavzu buyicha; uzim 1 yarim yil shu sohada ishladim, ohirida questionaryga qarasangiz hammasi yaxshi faqat serviz emas. Hamma narsa aldam-qaldam. Hozir Uzbekistonda haqiqiy 4 ta katta turizm kitlari bor, qolgan chiqqan yangi shirkatchalar musor. Kliyentni yollash uchun ularga itinerary yuboradi, lekin kliyent bizga kelgach asosan uzi kutgan serviz bumaydi.
Keyin ancha odam buni aytib utdi yetarli infrastruktura yuq, oddiy usha toshkent-samarqand trassasida BITTA HAM zamonaviy tualetli camping istirohat makonlari yuq, bulsa ham eshiksiz brizent uralgan loydan yasalgan chayla tarzidagi uychalar, endi uni tasvirlashni hojati yuq. Buxoro-Hiva trasasida esa vobshe hudo urgan trasa, majbur bulardik turistlarga bepoyon chulda hojatingni chiqar deb. sifatsiz asfalt, bazi yullarda umuman asfalt yuq, faqatgina Hiva postiga yaqin qolganda chap tomonda yuqorida maydagina choyxona bor. Registon, Buxoro Arki, Ichan Qalada sanoqli skameykalar bor, g'arb turisti, bir joyni kurgacha albatta utirib usha guide-book'ini yana uqib shu joy haqida ancha malumotga ega bulib va bir oz dam olib yana uz yulini davom etiradi. Tuzuk shahar kartalari yuq, har bitta shaharda kamida bitta tourist information center bulishi kerak. Koroche kelgan turistlar bir martalik.

[Professor]

Maybe they should save their money and use it on something more important.
marketing is very important factor of every business and commercial is the core of it.

[melo]

marketing is very important factor of every business and commercial is the core of it.


First of all, the product is more important than the advertising. And the best advertising is a satisfies customer, not a TV commercial. ;) Marketing for a product that is not availble is not really very smart. The Uzbek embassy is not willing to always issue visas to everyone interested. Just look at reports on the interent about getting a visa or talk to someone who has tried to get a tourist visa to Uzbekistan. You can advertise all you want but if the government is not willing to open up to the outside world it is all wasted money. Even wikipedia writes about how difficult it is. :shock: http://wikitravel.org/en/Uzbekistan

[Prince]

is there any info, how many tourists visit Uzbekistan annually?

[Vezunchik]

is there any info, how many tourists visit Uzbekistan annually?

gde to 500-600 000 v 2005 godu. no eta nashi rascheti`. tipa v kajdoy gostinitse oni berut otchetnost, no ni kto ne sravnivayet, etot Ivanov tot Ivanov kotori`y vchera bi`l v tashkente ili drugoy.

a po danni`m tur.operatorov gde to 250 000.

a mechtali let 10 nazad chto k nam zahli`nit 5-6 000 000 kajdiy god.

[StU]

Na sshet Diskobarov. Tam v osnovnom sidyat rabotniki predstavitelstv i posolstv. oni ne turisti`. Ih ne tak uj volnuyet vopros bezopasnosti. I v printspi`pe u nashih dorogih Diskobarah ne tak uj strashno. Oni prihodyat, vi`pyut ne mnojko, snimayut devok i obratno k sebe ili gostinitsu. Oni ne tak uj silno obshayutsya ili kontaktiruyut s Aborigenami (s molodimi nashimi uzbekami, s nami) iz Diskobarov.

turisti ne turisti, a denejki v strane ostavlyaut. Naschet nashih trujennic diskotek - ih dohodi pochemu ne schitayut? Eto toje dohodi s turizma. Prichem konkretnaya statya :? .

[Vezunchik]

turisti ne turisti, a denejki v strane ostavlyaut. Naschet nashih trujennic diskotek - ih dohodi pochemu ne schitayut? Eto toje dohodi s turizma. Prichem konkretnaya statya :? .

Okkk! analiz tak analiz!!!

Nashi trujennitsi Bolshogo fronta imeeyut spetsificheskuyu strukturu potrebleniya.

50% ih dahoda uhodit na Shmotki importnogo proishojdeniya, kotoroe importirovano Kontrabandni`m putem. to bish, nalogi ne platili. a takje tratyatsya na bolshoy, ujasno bolshoy obyom Marafeta (dlya nochnogo Maskarada ili Konsperatsiya v tselyah skri`tiya svoego naturalnego face. Dnyam smotret ne sovetuyu. Tolko v neonovi`h osvesheniyah eta rabotaet), v osnovnom kitayskogo, turetskogo, v lutshem sluchayii Polskogo proishojdeniya.

15-20% svoih "dohodov" ostavlyayut na etih je Diskobarah upotreblyaya importni`e Trapezi` (tipa piva, vodka, sigareti`, shokoladki...)

10-15% "dohodov" tratyatsya na izderjki Deyatelnosti, kak rent , kri`sha, Mama, hata....

10-15% ostayetsya v chistoy ekonomike.

Moral:
Soglasis radi etih 10-15% stoit dumat o Bolshom lepte etih inostrantsev (tak kak , turisti` etimi uslugami ochen malo polzuyutsya, v silu ogranicheniy Vozrastnogo haraktera. Nu nashi turisti` eta v osnovnom ne Playboy) v nashu ekonomiku!!!???

ON:

ot turistov polza v osnovnom ne Diskotekam, a Gostinitsam i Gidam, i obshepitam ....

[Nevidimka]

Azerbaijan pustil reklamku po CNN, privlekaya turistov v stranu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNjpzHVrANg

Sdelano ochen krasivo. (i dochka prezidentskaya zasvetilas)

Tak pochemu u nas, gde potenziala na 200% bolshe nikto i nikogda ne cheshetsa :rolleyes:..


Ya uvidila etot link Uzbekskie blyodo na Youtube.Hot chtoto pokamis est chto budit privlekat, turistov. YouTube - Uzbek Cuisine

[Nevidimka]

So- because their were some creepy foreigners hanging out in night clubs that means that lots of tourists come to Uzbekistan? :lol: And that people think it is safe? People go to night clubs in the US and that definitey isn't safe. I don't think safety is the reason people don't go to Uzbekistan. I would say language barriers, difficulty in getting visas, basic tourist infrastructure (hotels, transportation), people have never heard of Uzbekistan before, getting there is difficult, etc. These are the reasons people are not coming.


YouTube - CNN Uzbekistan= look at this , some americans love Uzbekistan.;) I am pretty sure u also Love it a lot.:P

[Vezunchik]

Ya uvidila etot link Uzbekskie blyodo na Youtube.Hot chtoto pokamis est chto budit privlekat, turistov. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORtP0k2nxoo


Gap bo`lishi mumkin emas!!!
Zo`r klip!!!! Juda mazzza qildim!!!
Ayniqsa shashlik, tandir kabob, palov!!!!!
eyyyy, otezga rahmat!!!

Uzbeki deystvitelno suppppper natsiya s suppper kulturoy!!! (prosto sredi nas gav"yukov mnogo, no ...anyway....)

Butun Osiyoga, da i boshqalaga ham DAM, esho raz DAM.....

[Han]

ikki-uch kundan keyin nasib bo'lsa o'zbekistondamiz...

biiir turist sifatida qarab boqay-chi, nima chiqar ekan? taassurotlarni yozarman...

fursat g'animat savollarim:

1- Samarqand, Buxoro tomonlarda 96 yoki 93 jilla qursa 90,91 benzinlarini topishning ehtimoli qancha?
2- Shahrisabzliklar qaysi mehmonxonani ve qaysi makonlarni aylanib ko'rishni maslahat beradilar?
3- Buxoro va Xorazm orasidagi yo'lning ahvoli va qaysi aholi punktlaridan o'tadi?
4- boshqa nima tavsiya qila olasiz?

rahmat...

[Shawn]

ikki-uch kundan keyin nasib bo'lsa o'zbekistondamiz...

biiir turist sifatida qarab boqay-chi, nima chiqar ekan? taassurotlarni yozarman...

fursat g'animat savollarim:

1- Samarqand, Buxoro tomonlarda 96 yoki 93 jilla qursa 90,91 benzinlarini topishning ehtimoli qancha?
2- Shahrisabzliklar qaysi mehmonxonani ve qaysi makonlarni aylanib ko'rishni maslahat beradilar?
3- Buxoro va Xorazm orasidagi yo'lning ahvoli va qaysi aholi punktlaridan o'tadi?
4- boshqa nima tavsiya qila olasiz?

rahmat...
2. Shahrisabzning markazida bitta gostinica bor, eski Inturist, hozir qanaqa nomlanadi bilmayman. Aylanmoqchi bo'lsangiz tarixiy joylardan Oqsaroy va Ko'kgo'mbaz masjidini ichkari tomondan ko'rishni tavsiya qilaman. U yerda A.Temurning eng katta o'gli Jahongirning qabri bor. Oqsaroyning tepasiga chiqsangiz shaharning hamma joyi ko'rinadi, ajoyib panorama. Usha yerda qorovul o'tiradi, qo'liga pul bersangiz Oqsaroy tepasiga chiqish muammo bo'lmasa kerak. Saroyning orqasida tarixiy shahar qal'asining bir qismi saqlanib qolgan, balki qiziqdir.

[Vector]

tut v anglii polnim hodom reklamirovali i Kazahstan i Azerbajjan, Rossiyu, daje Armeniyu, posle etogo nekotorie daje nachinali sprashivat s Azerbajana ya ili net...
kogda nashi stanut reklamirovat Uzbekistan? mlya, tak obidno stanovitsya, zastoy kakoyto, net progressa v etom fronte, a mesta to navalom pokazyvat' turistam :?

[ILAH1]

i hope many tourist from israel come visit bukhara again see land where they lived much jewish tradition preserved big community come visit jews in uzbekistan. also bring lev leviiv very rich man in israel come from uzbekistan with good money to invest help build uzbekistan great country like turkey brother to uzbekistan ally to israel, many tourist from israel to turkey good business make lots of money, also partnership judaism-islam very good lower tension make peace not war!!!

i also invite uzbek visit jerusalem see al-aqsa and masjid ummar pray and be happy not bad pity israel expensive country but maybe uzbekistan grow more succesful people have money come visit and see!

[VatanparvaR]

O'zbekistonda turizm masalasi, qiyin masala.

E'tibor berayotgan bo'lsangizlar, uyatni chetga surib qo'yib gapiradigan bo'lsak, turistlarning ko'pchilik qismi, aniqroq qilib aytadigan bo'lsak, erkaklarning ko'pchilik qismi(shu jumladan ayollarning xam) Janubiy Amerika davlatrlariga, hususan Braziliya, Meksika, yoki Osiyoda Tailand singari sex turizm juda rivojlangan davlatlarni tanlashadi, va erkak turistlar katta oqimi o'sha davlatlarga ketadi. Evropa ayollaringining ma'lum qismi Afrika davlatlariga borishi malum.

Shundan kelib chiqadigan bo'lsak, bizga tarix o'rganuvchi sayohatchilar, yoki yoshi o'tib qolgan evropaliklar, yani juda oz qismi to'g'ri keladi.

Bizning sharoitimizda, turizmdan katta najot kutish to'g'ri emas deb o'ylayman.

[MalikaN]

fursat g'animat savollarim:

1- Samarqand, Buxoro tomonlarda 96 yoki 93 jilla qursa 90,91 benzinlarini topishning ehtimoli qancha?
2- Shahrisabzliklar qaysi mehmonxonani ve qaysi makonlarni aylanib ko'rishni maslahat beradilar?
3- Buxoro va Xorazm orasidagi yo'lning ahvoli va qaysi aholi punktlaridan o'tadi?
4- boshqa nima tavsiya qila olasiz?

rahmat...

1. Кимдир бу бензинлар Бухоро ё Самаркандда топилмайди деганми сизга? Уларни топишнинг эхтимоли анча юкори, яъни хар кадамда битта Ёкилги куйиш шахобчаси бор, пулини тулаб, олиб кетаверасиз. Яна билмадим...

2. Оксаройни куринг, Мингчинор деган чиройли дам оладиган тог этагида жой бор, шуни куринг. Шахрисабздан машинада 30-40 минутлик йул, адашмасам.

3. Бухоро ва Хоразм уртасидаги йулнинг ахволи жуда ёмон. Асосан чулдан юрасиз, трасса хам зур эмас. Уртача 450-500 км юрасиз.

[MalikaN]

O'zbekistonda turizm masalasi, qiyin masala.
Bizning sharoitimizda, turizmdan katta najot kutish to'g'ri emas deb o'ylayman.

Bilasizmi, bizda Buxoroda hozir (ko'z tegmasin) turizm juda yaxshi ketyapti. O'zimizga yetadi. Yuzlab mehmonxonalar (davlat mehmonxonalari, xususiylari, litsenziyasi bor-yo'qlari), hunarmandlar, restoran-choyxonalar va umuman turizmga aloqasi bo'lganlar nonini shundan topyapti. Yiliga o'nlab xususiy mehmonxonalar ochilyapdi. Borib ko'rsangiz, sharoitlari, "obslujivaniye", xullas, hammasi yuqori darajada tashkil etilgan. Birorta mehmonxona hali sezon vaqtida xonalari bo'shab qolayotgani yo'q. Hatto, noyabr oyida sezon tugab qolgan vaqtda ham, turistlarning oqimi tezlikda to'xtab qolmayapti. Albatta, bor umidni turizmga tikib o'tirish noto'g'ri. Negaki, bizda tarix bor. Ko'ngilochar joylar kazino, plyaj, bowling klublar va hokazolar hali yo'q (Buxoroni nazarda tutyapman). Endi ta'tilni har kim o'zicha o'tkazishni istaydi. Kimdir tarixga qiziqsa, kimdir yana shunchaki dam olgisi, dengiz bo'yida hordiq chiqargisi keladi. Shunaqa....

[VatanparvaR]

Bilasizmi, bizda Buxoroda hozir (ko'z tegmasin) turizm juda yaxshi ketyapti. O'zimizga yetadi. Yuzlab mehmonxonalar (davlat mehmonxonalari, xususiylari, litsenziyasi bor-yo'qlari),


Xazillashmang :)
Buhoroda nechta mehmonhona bor ekan o'zi xammasi bo'lib ? :)


Endi ta'tilni har kim o'zicha o'tkazishni istaydi. Kimdir tarixga qiziqsa, kimdir yana shunchaki dam olgisi, dengiz bo'yida hordiq chiqargisi keladi. Shunaqa....

To'g'ri, tatilni xar kim xar-xil o'tkazadi. Lekin tarixni o'rganib o'tkazadiganlar juda kamchilik qismni tashkil qiladi. Men shuni aytmoqchi edim :)

[MalikaN]

Xazillashmang :)
Buhoroda nechta mehmonhona bor ekan o'zi xammasi bo'lib ? :)

Aytdimku. HA, kichkina demang bizni...
Qavs ichida yozilgan (rasmiy, norasmiy, davlat mehmonxonalari, xususiylari). Endi ja yuzta vohma bo'lib ketdiyu, yuzdan salgina oshiq desa bo'larkan. ;)

[uzonline.net]

nema uchun Toursim in Uzbekistan haqida kitoblar va boshqa malumotlar shuncha kam.......in China ther are millions of books , Videos , websites and other materials about tourism of world , but almost no book about Uzbekistan...
Chunki hamma joylarga reklama qilish kerak , Uzbekistonni madaniyatini , urf-odatini , torihi kabi narsalarni boshqalarga tonishtirish kerak

there is a video about uzbekistan http://uzonline.net/a/bbs/ShowPost.asp?id=134

if possiable , make more video like this and show it to others.





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[Han]

1. Кимдир бу бензинлар Бухоро ё Самаркандда топилмайди деганми сизга? Уларни топишнинг эхтимоли анча юкори, яъни хар кадамда битта Ёкилги куйиш шахобчаси бор, пулини тулаб, олиб кетаверасиз. Яна билмадим...

2. Оксаройни куринг, Мингчинор деган чиройли дам оладиган тог этагида жой бор, шуни куринг. Шахрисабздан машинада 30-40 минутлик йул, адашмасам.

3. Бухоро ва Хоразм уртасидаги йулнинг ахволи жуда ёмон. Асосан чулдан юрасиз, трасса хам зур эмас. Уртача 450-500 км юрасиз.

1- Shunaqa deyishgandi... Bitta Samarqandlik militsya hatto ustimizdan kulgandi "nima Quvaytga keldinglarmi?" deb :)
Yoqilg'i quyish shohibchalari ko'p ekanu lekin 93 ni topish ham ancha mushkil bo'ldi...

maslahatingiz uchun rahmat, juda mazza qildik... agar men borgan joy Buxoro bo'lsa unda ikki yil avval borganimiz Buxoro emasdi... :) farq mana hsu daraja keskin...

[Rustam12]

Xazillashmang :)
Buhoroda nechta mehmonhona bor ekan o'zi xammasi bo'lib ? :)



To'g'ri, tatilni xar kim xar-xil o'tkazadi. Lekin tarixni o'rganib o'tkazadiganlar juda kamchilik qismni tashkil qiladi. Men shuni aytmoqchi edim :)

Vatanparvar, Buxoroda juda ham mehmona ko'p ayniqsa aholi soni jihatidan O'zbekistonda 1 o'rinda. Albatta Toshkentdagi Intercontinetallar yoki Dedemanlar yo'q; Lekin servis jihatidan qolishmaydihan 10 lab va "juda ham o'zbekona qilib bezatilgan" mehmonhonalar bor.