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Toyim bo'lyapti deb ota onaga amerikaga invitation jo'natsa konsul viza beradimi? Kimdir boshidan o'tkazganmi?
Googler
05-03-2007, 11:07 PM
Toyim bo'lyapti deb ota onaga amerikaga invitation jo'natsa konsul viza beradimi? Kimdir boshidan o'tkazganmi?
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Royal
05-04-2007, 08:44 AM
Toyim bo'lyapti deb ota onaga amerikaga invitation jo'natsa konsul viza beradimi? Kimdir boshidan o'tkazganmi?
po amerikanski svadbi planiruyetsya zaranee i dlya konsula nujno vse dokumenti otnosyashim k etoy svadbi...
UzbekGirlie
05-04-2007, 08:49 AM
Toyim bo'lyapti deb ota onaga amerikaga invitation jo'natsa konsul viza beradimi? Kimdir boshidan o'tkazganmi?
Ha berishadi... But you need to proof that wedding is happening and also that you can support them financially while they are visiting.
Everytime I spoke to the embassy about visas they always said the same thing. It is based on the individual's economic situation, ties to their home country and ability to prove they don't plan on staying in the US. I was always told it doesn't matter what I will do to help them financially or any kind of invitation I would provide. They needed to build a strong case for themselves individually.
Пушкарева
05-04-2007, 09:28 AM
esimda bor, bu yozi interviewimmi kutvotganimda, bitta uzbek kishi kegandi oq'lim amerikankaga oylanvotti deb. berishmadi.
Toyim bo'lyapti deb ota onaga amerikaga invitation jo'natsa konsul viza beradimi? Kimdir boshidan o'tkazganmi?
UzbekGirlie
05-04-2007, 09:36 AM
esimda bor, bu yozi interviewimmi kutvotganimda, bitta uzbek kishi kegandi oq'lim amerikankaga oylanvotti deb. berishmadi.
Qolida oglidan hati bormiydi - kak preglasheniye. Keyin bankadan dakazatelsva kerakki puli bor deb.... Agar hammasi qulida bolsa bemalol berishadi...
Royal
05-04-2007, 09:48 AM
Qolida oglidan hati bormiydi - kak preglasheniye. Keyin bankadan dakazatelsva kerakki puli bor deb.... Agar hammasi qulida bolsa bemalol berishadi...
faqat bulayamasde:
1. toyga priglasheniya vrode officilanie v vide priglasitelnoe karti,
2. kontrakt s restoranom ili s tem mestom svadebnoe meopriyuatiy budet sostayatsa
3. i opyattaki vse nadlejashie dokementi k etomu vizitu; bank, garantee letter i td i tp...
i vsyo doljno bit oformleni nadlejashim obrazom: notarius, city, state and State department authentications and embassy as well.
Guardian
05-04-2007, 09:50 AM
if you have all your docemtns right, ofcourse they will give.
Glance
05-04-2007, 10:06 AM
Berish ehtimoli kotta, lekin yuqorida etib o'tishgande kop narsalani hisoga oladi consul: to'y haqidagi ma'lumotlar, financial situation, agar amerikadagi odam harajatlani kotaraman disa uni oladigan maosh-paosh hammasi torisida document, yoki ota-oanani ozi finansirovat' qivotgan bosa, ulani sostoyaniyesi yahhsiligini dokazat qiladigan documentla (oylik daromadi (eng muhim narsa shu) nedvijimost'lari bo'sa oshala), umuman qopol qib etganda "ameriken tekinga keremas" digan narsani isbotlaydigan qiladigan hujjatla, Jaguar Paw etgande Uzbekistonga ularni bog'lab turadigan narsa, masalan qari ota-onam bor, kopga tashab ketomiman, shunga toyni tez otqazib kelishim kere disa..yoki shunga o'hshash sabablar. Yana muhim narsa kuyov bo'lmish qanaqa yo'l bilan USga ketgani, uni holatinini ham hisobga olihsadi. Lekin umuman olganda ota-onaga berishi kerak. Ammo otkaz oganlaniyam ko'p ko'rgamman. Hamma hujjatlari zor bo'sa, qaytib kelishini isbotlasa, bermasdan boshqa ilojiyam yoq.
O'zi posolstvoga kirishdan oldin eshitishimcha ula uje 90 % qarorni qabul qilib bo'lisharkan. Suhbatga kirganizda 10 % ulani fikrini ozgartirishga shans bo'larkan. Yani otkaz berishni niyat qip qoyganakan, gap topishga harakat qiluradi, keyin "Sani hozi US ga borishini zarur dip topmadik" dip qoya qoladi.
Agar bermoqchi bo'sa, unaqa kovlashtirurmidi, ula odammi yuzigayam qarab bilvoluradi, niyati nimaligini :)..
Prince
05-04-2007, 10:40 AM
agar OTA ONEZ bosa berishi qiyin ikkovidan 1 tasi bosa berishi mumkin,
unda xam ota onezzi qaytib kelish ehtimollarini korishadi!
Let's be completley honest here. It depends how rich you are. If your parents have a business, a nice house and are wealthy in Uzbekistan they can come and go from the US as they want.
Royal
05-04-2007, 11:04 AM
Let's be completley honest here. It depends how rich you are. If your parents have a business, a nice house and are wealthy in Uzbekistan they can come and go from the US as they want.
....BS......
Timur
05-04-2007, 11:06 AM
Hujjatlaringiz to'liq bo'lishidan tashqari, hamma aka-ukalaringizning O'zbekistonda bo'lishi Ota-Onangizning viza olish ehtimolini oshiradi.
Let's be completley honest here. It depends how rich you are. If your parents have a business, a nice house and are wealthy in Uzbekistan they can come and go from the US as they want.
I don't agree. My parents are school teachers, they have no car, no bank account. They got 4 year visas. And also I know a lot of older couples who are wealthy, but couldn't get a visa. (Most of them have a kid or two in the US). So it doesn't depend on your wealth.
....BS......
Don't we have some sort of obscene language rules here on the forum :rolleyes: You are being totally naive if you think it isn't entirely based on wealth. The consul will basically admit that to you if you ask the right questions. The reason being they want more wealthy people here and you are less of a risk to stay if you are successful in yor own country. It is easier to be a rich person in Uzbekistan than it is in the US so tey assume they will return or if they stay it is no problem.
Hujjatlaringiz to'liq bo'lishidan tashqari, hamma aka-ukalaringizning O'zbekistonda bo'lishi Ota-Onangizning viza olish ehtimolini oshiradi.
I don't agree. My parents are school teachers, they have no car, no bank account. They got 4 year visas. And also I know a lot of older couples who are wealthy, but couldn't get a visa. (Most of them have a kid or two in the US). So it doesn't depend on your wealth.
Tell me one other thing in the world that isn't based on wealth. :? You seem to have an interesting story though. It is almost unbelievale that they would give them both 4 year visas. :shock: I didn't think you could get 4 year visas to any country in the country with any citizenship.
Saralex
05-04-2007, 11:23 AM
O'zi posolstvoga kirishdan oldin eshitishimcha ula uje 90 % qarorni qabul qilib bo'lisharkan. Suhbatga kirganizda 10 % ulani fikrini ozgartirishga shans bo'larkan.
Это совсем не так.
Согласно иммиграционному законодательству США бремя доказательства отсутствия иммиграционных намерений возлагается на заявителя. И во время интервью если Вы убедите консула в том, что Вы вернетесь на родину и докажете это аргументами и фактами, то консулу не остается ничего кроме выдачи Вам визу. Так что, получите Вы визу или нет определится только во время интервью. Людям кому отказывают, искажают информацию, мол, все решается до интервью.
Законом США не определен какой-либо официальный список документов на эту тему, но если Вы предоставите нижеследующие, то вероятность получения визы резко возрастет:
Справка от работодателя, подтверждающая наличие у Вас престижной и высокооплачиваемой работы. Полезно предоставить аналогичную справку с работы супруга/и. К справке с работы стоит приложить визитную карточку, ксерокопию свидетельства о регистрации компании, рекламные проспекты и любые дополнительные документы, подтверждающие, что компания где Вы работаете реально существует и работает.
Документы, свидетельствующие о Вашем владении какой-либо собственностью (квартира, дом, дача, машина, гараж, акции, паи в предприятиях и т.п.)
Свидетельство о браке, свидетельства о рождении детей (если есть).
Старый загранпаспорт с визами, подтверждающий Ваши выезды за границу.
Qiz ham o'zbek bo'lsa shans kottaroqmi deyman?
Royal
05-04-2007, 11:24 AM
Don't we have some sort of obscene language rules here on the forum :rolleyes: You are being totally naive if you think it isn't entirely based on wealth. The consul will basically admit that to you if you ask the right questions. The reason being they want more wealthy people here and you are less of a risk to stay if you are successful in yor own country. It is easier to be a rich person in Uzbekistan than it is in the US so tey assume they will return or if they stay it is no problem.
Tell me one other thing in the world that isn't based on wealth. :? You seem to have an interesting story though. It is almost unbelievale that they would give them both 4 year visas. :shock: I didn't think you could get 4 year visas to any country in the country with any citizenship.
JagPaw
here was a question of possibility of getting viza for persons parents if invited to the wedding, not about wealth here or there...
everyones wealth for them selves, but even that wealth doesnt work - why needed ???
i invite my relatives with out any problems in own times - they couldn't purchase a ticket for the trip...but they get viza......
simply You have to believe and don't be shock later in Your life You have lot of things to be :shock: , everything is in future :
... It is almost unbelievale that they would give them both 4 year visas. :shock:
Royal
05-04-2007, 11:26 AM
Qiz ham o'zbek bo'lsa shans kottaroqmi deyman?
farqi yogu lekin dokument korishadi....
Timur
05-04-2007, 11:26 AM
Tell me one other thing in the world that isn't based on wealth. :? You seem to have an interesting story though. It is almost unbelievale that they would give them both 4 year visas. :shock: I didn't think you could get 4 year visas to any country in the country with any citizenship.
Both Uzbekistan and US can give 4 year visas to each other's citizens. Though right now it is very difficult to get 4 year uzbek visa for US citizens.
Saralex
05-04-2007, 11:31 AM
O'zi posolstvoga kirishdan oldin eshitishimcha ula uje 90 % qarorni qabul qilib bo'lisharkan. Suhbatga kirganizda 10 % ulani fikrini ozgartirishga shans bo'larkan.
И еще Вы не должны обманывать консула, так как иммиграционный консул - специально обученный специалист - психолог. Если он/она заподозрит или узнает, что Вы пытались обмануть его/ее, то Вам дадут пожизненный ban в США.
SmIlIk
05-04-2007, 02:26 PM
Berish ehtimoli kotta, lekin yuqorida etib o'tishgande kop narsalani hisoga oladi consul: to'y haqidagi ma'lumotlar, financial situation, agar amerikadagi odam harajatlani kotaraman disa uni oladigan maosh-paosh hammasi torisida document, yoki ota-oanani ozi finansirovat' qivotgan bosa, ulani sostoyaniyesi yahhsiligini dokazat qiladigan documentla (oylik daromadi (eng muhim narsa shu) nedvijimost'lari bo'sa oshala), umuman qopol qib etganda "ameriken tekinga keremas" digan narsani isbotlaydigan qiladigan hujjatla, Jaguar Paw etgande Uzbekistonga ularni bog'lab turadigan narsa, masalan qari ota-onam bor, kopga tashab ketomiman, shunga toyni tez otqazib kelishim kere disa..yoki shunga o'hshash sabablar. Yana muhim narsa kuyov bo'lmish qanaqa yo'l bilan USga ketgani, uni holatinini ham hisobga olihsadi. Lekin umuman olganda ota-onaga berishi kerak. Ammo otkaz oganlaniyam ko'p ko'rgamman. Hamma hujjatlari zor bo'sa, qaytib kelishini isbotlasa, bermasdan boshqa ilojiyam yoq.
O'zi posolstvoga kirishdan oldin eshitishimcha ula uje 90 % qarorni qabul qilib bo'lisharkan. Suhbatga kirganizda 10 % ulani fikrini ozgartirishga shans bo'larkan. Yani otkaz berishni niyat qip qoyganakan, gap topishga harakat qiluradi, keyin "Sani hozi US ga borishini zarur dip topmadik" dip qoya qoladi.
Agar bermoqchi bo'sa, unaqa kovlashtirurmidi, ula odammi yuzigayam qarab bilvoluradi, niyati nimaligini :)..
Boshidan o'tganla biladi deganlaridek :) To'yning haqligini isbotlashdan tashqari o'zingiz legal, lekin legalligini ham isbotlashingiz kerak. Oddiy green carning copy'larining o'zi yetarli bo'lishi kerak.
SMLK
Prince
05-04-2007, 02:52 PM
Boshidan o'tganla biladi deganlaridek :) To'yning haqligini isbotlashdan tashqari o'zingiz legal, lekin legalligini ham isbotlashingiz kerak. Oddiy green carning copy'larining o'zi yetarli bo'lishi kerak.
SMLK
Smilik - shu Amerikani Consuliyam boru? sizdan kelib maslahat osa kere a?
Qattan shuncha mahorat? Tushunmiman!?:? :? qoyillatib konsulstvada ishlamagan bo`sez dimande... :? :? ;)
munisa
05-04-2007, 07:28 PM
Это совсем не так......Законом США не определен какой-либо официальный список документов на эту тему, но если Вы предоставите нижеследующие, то вероятность получения визы резко возрастет:
Справка от работодателя, подтверждающая наличие у Вас престижной и высокооплачиваемой работы. Полезно предоставить аналогичную справку с работы супруга/и. К справке с работы стоит приложить визитную карточку, ксерокопию свидетельства о регистрации компании, рекламные проспекты и любые дополнительные документы, подтверждающие, что компания где Вы работаете реально существует и работает.
Документы, свидетельствующие о Вашем владении какой-либо собственностью (квартира, дом, дача, машина, гараж, акции, паи в предприятиях и т.п.)
Свидетельство о браке, свидетельства о рождении детей (если есть).
Старый загранпаспорт с визами, подтверждающий Ваши выезды за границу.
A vi slihali pro sluchai, kogda konsul daje migom ne vzglyadival na podobnie dokumenti i otkazival, ostavlyaya zayavitelya inogda v shoke ? Glance prava,
O'zi posolstvoga kirishdan oldin eshitishimcha ula uje 90 % qarorni qabul qilib bo'lisharkan. Suhbatga kirganizda 10 % ulani fikrini ozgartirishga shans bo'larkan.
mojet bit' 80%, mojet bit' 70% resheniya proishodit do interview, no 50% tochno, i skoree vsego ochen' chasto bol'she chem 50%. i imenno potomu, chto:
И еще Вы не должны обманывать консула, так как иммиграционный консул - специально обученный специалист - психолог.
Etot specialist umeet delat' vivodi po uje zapolnennim anketam, kotorie nahodyatsya u nego na stole prejde chem vasha persona poyavlyaetsya pered nim.
Дело в том, что консул тоже человек и тожи совершает ошибки.
Skoree vsego zayavitel' imeet tshatel'no obdumannuyu podgotovku, i vsyo. Konsul NE sovershaet oshibku, emu prihoditsya poverit' vo vsyo to, chto emu professional'no prepodnesli, i to chto vhodit vo vse ramki zakonov.
to the thread starter: Glance made it more general and clear, i agree with her.
Good Luck!
ps. sorry for my russian in latin, no chance for the other option.
Saralex
05-05-2007, 05:33 AM
[quote=munisa;702365]A vi slihali pro sluchai, kogda konsul daje migom ne vzglyadival na podobnie dokumenti i otkazival, ostavlyaya zayavitelya inogda v shoke ? Glance prava, ]
Значит консул заподозрил или выявил обман
mojet bit' 80%, mojet bit' 70% resheniya proishodit do interview, no 50% tochno, i skoree vsego ochen' chasto bol'she chem 50%. i imenno potomu, chto:
Это только ваши мнения
Etot specialist umeet delat' vivodi po uje zapolnennim anketam, kotorie nahodyatsya u nego na stole prejde chem vasha persona poyavlyaetsya pered nim.
Я уже говорил что не совсем так.
Skoree vsego zayavitel' imeet tshatel'no obdumannuyu podgotovku, i vsyo. Konsul NE sovershaet oshibku, emu prihoditsya poverit' vo vsyo to, chto emu professional'no prepodnesli, i to chto vhodit vo vse ramki zakonov.
Консул может завалить Вас одним вопросом, если заподозрит, что Вы пытаетесь скрыть факты или обмануть. А ваше заявление заранее дает ему представление о Вас, до интервью исходя из заявления они пробьют Вас через свою базу, а на интервью, он будет слушать Вас, говорите ли Вы правду или нет.
Glance
05-05-2007, 11:22 AM
mojet bit' 80%, mojet bit' 70% resheniya proishodit do interview, no 50% tochno, i skoree vsego ochen' chasto bol'she chem 50%. i imenno potomu, chto:
Это только ваши мнения
Etot specialist umeet delat' vivodi po uje zapolnennim anketam, kotorie nahodyatsya u nego na stole prejde chem vasha persona poyavlyaetsya pered nim.
Я уже говорил что не совсем так.
Flood qilishni hohlamagandim uzr..:) Lekin bu danniy mani yoki Munisa ni mneniyelari emas, bu narsani consulni oldida turadigan yordamchisidan eshitgamiz :D Etilgan gaplarni o'zimmi experiencimdan va o'sha odamning etgan gaplariga asoslanib yozdim.
Yolg'on gaprish torisida gap bolishimiyam mumkin emas, albatta yolg'on gapirish kerak emas, buni hamma biladi, bu narsa ulada juda kotta ayb hisoblanadi (hammadayam), permanent ban omasezam har doim ulani recordlarida yolg'onchi bo'p tururasiz bu juda katta minus..
Borz_man
05-05-2007, 01:42 PM
Konsullayam yoniga kirgan odamni darrov
otkaz beraman degan ko'z bilan qaridi degan fikrim bor.
Kotta singlimni to'yiga onamni va kichik singlimni
borishiga ruhsat berishmadi.Nedvijimistlar,moshina,
bankda har birligiga ancha pul qo'ydik. Ammo bilmadim
ular hijobda bo'lishganigami yoki boshqa sababmi
ruhsat bermadi.Ha yana qo'shimchasiga
onamlar oldinam 1 marotoba borganlar,kichik singlim 2 marotoba borgan.
Singlimni 2 marotoba borishi maktabda o'qir edi,kanikulda englisni
yahshi o'zlashtirsin deb 3-4 oyga jo'natkandik,hech kimda
narusheniya bo'lmagan.Ularni u yerda qobketmasligi nihoyatta
aniq va ravshan edi.
Man shunda duo qilgandim:Allohim agar dinimizga hayrlik
bo'lsa o'zin nasib qil,bo'lmasam o'zing uni daf qilgin deb.
Shunga Alloh bizga nima kerak-u,nima kerak emasligini
bizdan yahshi biladi,bizga hayrilgini nasib qisin deb so'rashlik
bizning ishimiz.Ammo konsulstvadan qaytishganda otkazni eshitib
onamlani ko'zlariga qarolmadim,yeglavorslar qalbim tilka-pora
bo'masin deb ,keyinroq : nasib qilsa inshaAlloh borarsla deb
ko'ngillarini ko'tarib qo'ydim.
Konsullar moddiy o'lcham bilan o'lchaydigan bo'b qolishgan,
amriqasi hech kimga kerak bo'lmasayam o'zini inaplanetniyde
osmonda faras qilib o'tiradi.Bilmaydiki O'zbeklarimizda mehr-oqibat,
qarimdosh-uruglik,jigarni soginish degan his-tuygular bor.
Bu his tuygular moddiyatchilikdan ancha yuqori turadi.
Hammamizga Allohim haqni haq qilib ko'rsatib unga ergashtirsin,
botilni botil qib ko'rsatib, undan chetlantirsin.
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