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AbuMuslim
05-07-2007, 05:39 PM
...рус сайтларининг биридаги форумда гаплашиб ўтирган икки қизнинг суҳбатидан бир лавҳа бераман...
- Биласанми, аборт материалини медицина ва косметикада ишлатишаркан… Плацентадан тайёрланган ёшартирувчи маска, эмбрионлардан олинган умрни узайтирувчи суюқлик, шунга ўхшаш.
- Даҳшат-ку! Тасаввур қилаяпсанми, Оля, қачондир сен ўз юзингни ўзингнинг қорнингдан чиққан, туғилмаган фарзандинг қони билан бўясанг-а? Вооой, мен қўрқиб кетаяпмааан...!
Маколанинг тўлик матни куйдаги линкда...
http://muslimaat.uz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=386&Itemid=77
errоr
05-07-2007, 07:01 PM
а в китае некоторые едят ембрионы, дабы продлить себе молодость.... брррррррррр
munisa
05-07-2007, 07:04 PM
atir (duhi) larda ham ishlatiladi deb eshitganman. shunchun o'ta berilib ketmaslik kerak sun'iy narsalarga.
NanOnaN
05-07-2007, 09:48 PM
Man ham eshitgandim
Ayniqsa Taniqli insonlar, mashhur ashulachi, aktyorlar (Alla Pugachevani haqida eshitudim) pulga muhtoj qizlar bilan gaplashib malum bir sumaga ularni homilador qildirib kegin abort qildirib enbrionni ishlatishar ekan.
...рус сайтларининг биридаги форумда гаплашиб ўтирган икки қизнинг суҳбатидан бир лавҳа бераман...
- Биласанми, аборт материалини медицина ва косметикада ишлатишаркан… Плацентадан тайёрланган ёшартирувчи маска, эмбрионлардан олинган умрни узайтирувчи суюқлик, шунга ўхшаш.
- Даҳшат-ку! Тасаввур қилаяпсанми, Оля, қачондир сен ўз юзингни ўзингнинг қорнингдан чиққан, туғилмаган фарзандинг қони билан бўясанг-а? Вооой, мен қўрқиб кетаяпмааан...!
Маколанинг тўлик матни куйдаги линкда...
http://muslimaat.uz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=386&Itemid=77
lobar
05-07-2007, 10:01 PM
Bolalar uchun chiqariladigan Gematogen shokoladini onani tuqqanida chiqadigan bachadonidan tayorlashadi dib eshitudim . Eng ko'p qon oshatta bo'larmishde, yosh bollaga zo'r dorimish o'sha. Bekorga aptekalada sotilmasakande shu shokoladni.
Warrior
05-07-2007, 11:03 PM
Bolalar uchun chiqariladigan Gematogen shokoladini onani tuqqanida chiqadigan bachadonidan tayorlashadi dib eshitudim . Eng ko'p qon oshatta bo'larmishde, yosh bollaga zo'r dorimish o'sha. Bekorga aptekalada sotilmasakande shu shokoladni.
Лобархон, гемотоген шоколади буқани қонидан қилинади. Шунча бачадонни қонини қаердан топишади деб ўйлаь кўрмганмисиз? Эмбрион ва плацентадан тайёрланадиган дорилар (!!!) фақат кучли этик нормаларни хисобга олган холда тайёранади деб ўйлайман. У Ўзб.да этик нормалар бир тийин. Чет элда бунга қаттиқ қаралади.
Маслахатим жуда хам унчалик conspiracy theory га берилиб кетманг.
anatoliydaev
05-07-2007, 11:46 PM
А еще принятно отваривать срезанную плоть после обрезания и дать выпить это женщине которая не может забеременеть.
PainKiller
05-08-2007, 12:32 AM
Da est' kucha lyudej kotorye eto delo edyat. Ih nazivayut placentophagami.
Mne odin moy znakomiy kak-to pokazal recept placenti i menya chut' ne virvalo. On i ego zhena, posle rodov v ser'ez namerevalis' prigotovit' steyk iz placenti i slopat' vse eto dobro s tushenimi ovoshami.
here is a simple recipe for those who want to try placenta stew.
Cookbook:Placenta stew
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[edit (http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Cookbook:Placenta_stew&action=edit§ion=1)] Ingredients
3/4 fresh human placenta (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cookbook:Placenta)
1 potato
4 tablespoons fresh parsley
2 carrots
3 celery
1 zucchini (courgette)
1 tomato
1 onion
[edit (http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Cookbook:Placenta_stew&action=edit§ion=2)] Procedure
Chop up the ingredients.
Roll the placenta in a mix of one table spoon flour, one teaspoon salt, a half teaspoon powdered paprika, some ground clove, some ground pepper and 6-8 coriander seeds.
Saute the placenta in two tablespoons oil, pour in the vegetables and about a litre of water.
Allow to boil and then let simmer for an hour.Enjoy!
http://www.hordalaget.no/smalahovefest2001/0968_Smalahove_pao_fat_med.jpg
errоr
05-08-2007, 02:27 AM
Da est' kucha lyudej kotorye eto delo edyat. Ih nazivayut placentophagami.
Mne odin moy znakomiy kak-to pokazal recept placenti i menya chut' ne virvalo. On i ego zhena, posle rodov v ser'ez namerevalis' prigotovit' steyk iz placenti i slopat' vse eto dobro s tushenimi ovoshami.
here is a simple recipe for those who want to try placenta stew.
Cookbook:Placenta stew
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[edit (http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Cookbook:Placenta_stew&action=edit§ion=1)] Ingredients
3/4 fresh human placenta (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cookbook:Placenta)
1 potato
4 tablespoons fresh parsley
2 carrots
3 celery
1 zucchini (courgette)
1 tomato
1 onion
[edit (http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Cookbook:Placenta_stew&action=edit§ion=2)] Procedure
Chop up the ingredients.
Roll the placenta in a mix of one table spoon flour, one teaspoon salt, a half teaspoon powdered paprika, some ground clove, some ground pepper and 6-8 coriander seeds.
Saute the placenta in two tablespoons oil, pour in the vegetables and about a litre of water.
Allow to boil and then let simmer for an hour.Enjoy!
http://www.hordalaget.no/smalahovefest2001/0968_Smalahove_pao_fat_med.jpg
спасибо! поблевал...
anatoliydaev
05-08-2007, 02:37 AM
спасибо! поблевал...
После такой трапезы нужно точно 50 грам принять. :)
Lady_G
05-08-2007, 03:46 AM
Yummi!
http://www.acmc.uq.edu.au/images/projectimages/Fresh_Placenta.jpg
http://www.pattiramos.com/Placenta_1_network_c_72_4x6.JPG
What Can I Do With This Placenta?
WARNING: While some people would just prefer for the hospital staff to dispose of the placenta, some prefer to do something special with it. So while this page may not be for everyone, it is of interest to some. Please refrain from sending me nasty letters about this... if you don't find this to your liking, please just go to another page. Try to keep an open mind...
Planting Your Placenta
Many people freeze their placentas until they get a special tree or bush in honor of the new baby. After digging an appropriately sized hole, score the sides of the hole so the soil is more amenable to tender roots. Put the placenta in, and cover it with a half to a full inch of soil before placing the plant on top of it. Hold the plant steady while the rest of the hole is filled. Water the plant well after planting. Newly planted trees and shrubs need to be watered on a regular basis the first year until they form a good root system. As the placenta breaks down in the soil, the tree or shrub will reap the benefits of all the nutrients packed in that placenta. Now, just enjoy watching your baby and new yard addition grow!
Making Placenta Prints
This may appeal to some of you who enjoy doing artistic endeavors. Before the birth, pick up a few sheets of nice quality art paper. This can be watercolor paper, or some of the really unique specialty papers found in an art supply store. After the birth, take the fresh placenta and lay it out on the paper. You can make the prints with the blood that covers it, or wipe it off and put ink or paint on it first. To get the best prints, make sure there isn't too much or too little fluid for the print. Many parents have found this to be a fun activity as well as giving them a very unique, artistic keepsake of their pregnancy.
Membrane Art
As a student midwife I saw a beautiful "picture" up at a woman's house. It looked like an image of an angel. It was in fact the caul. Their last baby had been born with the membranes intact and the mother asked a friend to put the membranes onto a sheet of paper. Ta Da!! It really was lovely! ~Andrya, UK
This was shared on the midwife-mirror list:
Traditional Chinese Medicine Placenta Preparation
by Janneli Miller, Midwife
(If anyone knows how to contact Ms. Miller, please let me know. I'd like to make sure I've given her all the proper credit, as well as listing a way for people to contact her for more information or to get placenta preparations.)
According to Traditional Chinese Medicine, placenta is considered a powerful and sacred medicine, full of life force. Raven Lang, a midwife who studied Traditional Chinese Medicine, advises the use of placenta during the postpartum course to aid in recovery from childbirth. After the placenta is prepared it is taken in capsule form, 2 capsules at a time, with white wine. The wine is said to help disperse the energy of the placenta throughout the body. Women can take this dose up to three times a day, and continue until they no longer feel a need. Remaining placenta can be saved and used homeopathically for those times when the child undergoes a separation from the mother. For example, when first learning to walk, or when weaning, or when going off ory is made from qi and blood, human placenta used to augment qi and blood will help augment lactation.
I first heard of making placenta into medicine from Raven Lang at a MANA convention in 1984. I have been making it for all my clients since. I do it as a routine, and have only had one client not want it. For all you who are
ROFL right now, let me say that the placenta is prepared into a powder and encapsulated, so it's not so undesirable. To prepare, it must be cooked. Cooking in TCM is an integral part of the formation and action of the medicine. Raw is generally considered cooling, so raw placenta is cooling, and I wouldn't recommend it as a general rule. Also, none of the actions of human placenta as I am describing it can be attributed to the raw placenta. Cooking it is part of making it what it is. To cook, wash excess blood from the placenta. Place it in a steamer over water. Place with it fresh ginger slices, half a lemon and a hot pepper. Steam for 15 minutes, turn, and steam 15 more minutes until no juice comes out when pricked with a fork. (Steam over low heat, it has a tendency to boil over and that's a mess.) The membranes and cord may be cooked with the placenta. It is helpful to turn the placenta to "Schultz," i.e., wrapped inside the membrane when you cook it. It will shrink tremendously, and wrapped in the membranes makes it easy to deal with for the next step. After steaming, slice the placenta in 1/8" strips, similar to making jerky. Slice
as thin as possible. Place the strips on a cookie sheet (over aluminum foil if you're squeamish) and place it in an oven on the lowest possible setting for several hours until completely brittle-dry. (Again like jerky) Using a food
dehydrator is even better, but will take longer. Powder the strips in a coffee grinder, and encapsulate. I advise clients to take two capsules three times a day for two weeks postpartum. It can be kept indefinitely, but is best kept in a freezer long term (like any meat to school or daycare.
I have been preparing and giving placenta to women for 10 years. It is not recommended for everyone, but women who do want to take it have reported that they do not have trouble with postpartum depression and seem to heal quickly from any trauma experienced because of birth. While it is difficult to say that the placenta is responsible, there are physiological reasons that may be at work. The placenta is full of natural oxytocins which are responsible for contracting the uterus and minimizing postpartum bleeding. Also it contains hormones which have recently been shown to help in the relief of postpartum depression. Women who use placenta have said it makes them feel nurtured. It takes about 12-16 hours to prepare the placenta according to the recipe advocated by Raven Lang. I will prepare your placenta for you for a donation of $50, or trade of similar value. The preparation is not difficult but Raven noted that one must keep in mind the powerful and sacred nature of the organ you are working with at all times. I am honored to do this work and enjoy preparing the placentas for homebirth women. If you choose to prepare it yourself, the recipe follows.
Gently rinse the fresh placenta (it must not have been frozen, the fresher the better), keeping as much blood as possible. Steam the placenta for 15 minutes, then turn it over and steam for 15 more minutes. In the steaming water you must put a jalapeño pepper, some fresh ginger root and a slice of lime. When the placenta is finished steaming
slice it into thin strips and place these in a dehydrator or your oven at its lowest temperature. Dry the strips until they are completely dry, they should snap. This generally takes about 8 to 10 hours. Your house will smell like placenta (women like this smell but men generally find it unpleasant). When the slices are completely dry, break them up into smaller chunks and then grind them into a fine powder. Raven noted that any energy you have while
working with the placenta will be absorbed into the medicine, so please keep yourself centered. This also applies to your mode of grinding-if you use a blender or electric grinder your placenta will have "blender energy" (direct quote from Raven!). A mortar and pestle can be used or a hand grinder. Raven said you can also put the pieces in a paper bag and pound with a rock. When you have powdered the placenta keep it in a cool dark place in a glass jar tightly capped. It will keep indefinitely this way.
~posted to the Homebirth email list
Lady_G
05-08-2007, 03:46 AM
Placenta Recipes (Mothering Magazine, September 1983, Vol. 28, pg 76)
Editor's note: I have not heard of anyone who routinely makes a habit of eating placenta... it would be an 'after-the-birth-only' type activity. Many animals, including herbivores routinely eat their placentas, as it replaces vitamins and minerals lost during the labor process. Many women who have tried it swear they feel better faster, and they do not suffer from postpartum depression because of the nutrients the placenta has given them. It has been called a 'harmless' meat, as no creature is killed to procure it. Placentas should only be eaten fresh, if this is something that appeals to you.
Each placenta weighs approximately 1/6 of the baby's weight. Cut the meat away from the membranes with a sharp knife. Discard the membranes.
Placenta Cocktail:
1/4 cup raw placenta
8oz V-8 juice
2 ice cubes
1/2 cup carrot.
Blend at high speed for 10 seconds
Placenta Lasagne:
Use your favorite Lasagne recipe and substitute this mixture for one layer of cheese. In 2 tbl. olive oil, quickly saute meat of 3/4 placenta, ground or minced; plus 2 sliced cloves of garlic, 1/2 tsp. oregano, 1/2 diced onion & 2 tbl. tomato paste, or 1 whole tomato.
Placenta Spaghetti:
Cut meat of 3/4 placenta into bite size pieces, then brown quickly in 1 tbl. butter plus 1 tbl. oil. Then add 1 large can tomato puree, 2 cans crushed pear tomatoes, 1 onion, 2 cloves of garlic, 1 tbl. molasses, 1 bay leaf, 1 tbl. rosemary, 1 tsp. ea. of salt, honey, oregano, basil, and fennel. Simmer 1 1/2 hours.
Placenta Stew:
Meat of 3/4 placenta in bite size chunks, 1 potato (cubed), 1/4 cup fresh parsley, 2 carrots, 3 ribs celery, 1 zucchini, 1 large tomato, 1 small onion. Dredge meat in 1 tbl. flour mixed with 1 tsp. salt, 1/2 tsp. paprika, pinch of cloves, pinch of pepper, 6-8 crushed coriander seeds. Saute meat in 2 tbl. oil, then add vegetables (cut up) and 4-5 cups of water. Bring to full boil, then simmer for 1 hour.
Placenta Pizza:
Grind placenta. Saute in 2 tbl. olive oil with 4 garlic cloves, then add 1/4 tsp. fennel, 1/4 tsp. pepper, 1/4 tsp. paprika, 1/4 tsp. salt, 1/2 tsp. oregano, 1/4 tsp. thyme, and 1/4 cup of wine. Allow to stand for 30 minutes, then use with your favorite home made pizza recipe. It's a fine placenta sausage topping.
found at: http://rainforest.parentsplace.com/dialog/get/newf4homebirth1/49/3.html
Placenta Roast:
All "food" should be properly cleaned prior to cooking, and all "food" should be properly cooked prior to eating.
This is a good recipe for placenta, which should NOT go to waste:
INGREDIENTS:
1 to 3 lb. placenta no more than 3 days old
1 large onion
1 large green or red pepper (green will add color to the presentation)
1 cup tomato sauce
1 sleeve of saltine crackers
1 tsp crab or shrimp seasoning
1 tsp black pepper
1 tsp white pepper
1 clove garlic (roasted and minced)
DIRECTIONS:
Preheat oven to 350 degrees.
Chop onion and green or red pepper in small cubes. Place in large bowl. Crush saltines into crumbs and add to onion and pepper cubes.
COMBINE IN LARGE BOWL:
Placenta, seafood seasoning, pepper, garlic, and tomato sauce. Place into aluminum loaf pan. Cover and bake for 1 and 1/2 hours, occasionally pouring off excess liquid. Retain liquid for gravy base if desired.
~posted to the Homebirth email list
Tom Cuise ham yegan Suri qizini placentasini..
errоr
05-08-2007, 04:22 AM
Yummi!
http://www.acmc.uq.edu.au/images/projectimages/Fresh_Placenta.jpg
http://www.pattiramos.com/Placenta_1_network_c_72_4x6.JPG
спасибо, поблевал второй раз!
З.Ы. Painkiller и Lady_G откуда такие познания в кулинарии? :lol:
anatoliydaev
05-08-2007, 05:11 AM
Качественный блевотный трэд! Маладцы. Перенести нужно в раздел кулинарии.
JaZZman
05-08-2007, 05:22 AM
Qusqini qannaqilib recycle qilsa bolarkin-a? :rolleyes: Shuniyam receptlari bosa tashavorila.
infolife
05-08-2007, 06:22 AM
:shock: :shock: :shock:
Odam o'zidan chiqqan najasni yeyishini 1chi marta eshitishim
koynim aynib ketti togrisi
lyalyapo
05-08-2007, 06:34 AM
fuuu :shock:
tug'ishdan oldin tug'ish bo'yicha darslarga borgandik, shunda midwife placentani:
"Some people like it with garlic" degandi hazillashyapti deb tushungandik(hazil huzul qilip turardide)
Lady_G
05-08-2007, 06:51 AM
- Биласанми, аборт материалини медицина ва косметикада ишлатишаркан… Плацентадан тайёрланган ёшартирувчи маска, эмбрионлардан олинган умрни узайтирувчи суюқлик, шунга ўхшаш.
- Даҳшат-ку! Тасаввур қилаяпсанми, Оля, қачондир сен ўз юзингни ўзингнинг қорнингдан чиққан, туғилмаган фарзандинг қони билан бўясанг-а? Вооой, мен қўрқиб кетаяпмааан...! hmm abort materialini? Shunisiga uzhe qiyinro ishonaman. placenta, o'lik embrionni boshqa boshqa. uzhe etikaga qarshi, o'lik embrionni hechnimaga ishlatilmidi, agarda ishlatilsayam illegal. i keyin odamni placentasidanmas, ko'pincha hayvon placentasidan qilinadi bu kosmetik mahsulotlar.
Man manabu soch uchun krem ham hayvon placentasidan qilingan.
http://vaniszoski.w.interia.pl/kallosmaskathe.jpg
YOzilgan: This special cream, rich of peptydes, vitamins and mineral salts which derivate from the bambu pith, represents an excellent substitute for hair treatments with marrow and animal placenta. This special treatment leaves the hair soft and strong and it is ideal to use on treated air, as bleached, dyed and permed...
placenta stvolovaja kletkaga boy, ko'pchilik bola tug'ilgandan so'ng qonini oldirib bankda saqlatadi. kelajakda hali ancha yordami tegadi shu narsani, ko'p kasalliklarga davo bo'ladi (i manam qo'shilaman shunaqa qiladiganlarga). bizada bola tugilishi bn so'ramasdan olinardi bu qon, endi uzhe man etilgan, faqat ona o'Zi so'ramasa placentaga tegishmidi.
ko'pro malumot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_cell)
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3828/humanplacentabothsidesjd4.jpg
tepada placenta, pastda abort qilingan embrion
http://thefetus.net/images/article-images/Cord_placenta_membranes_amniotic_fluid/amniotic%20band_luis/ima5.jpg
http://www.gospelbillboard.com/abortion.jpg
http://sibbyonline.blogs.com/sibbyonline/images/abortion2201.jpeg
http://www.ucmpage.org/articles/abortion%20and%20cross.jpg
http://www.spuc.org.uk/_inline-images/legs2.jpeg
http://sibbyonline.blogs.com/sibbyonline/images/abortion0801_1.jpeg
anatoliydaev
05-08-2007, 06:56 AM
hmm abort materialini?
Спасибо, поблевал
JaZZman
05-08-2007, 07:00 AM
Извращенцы!
anatoliydaev
05-08-2007, 07:18 AM
Извращенцы!
Извращенцы-гурманы!
anatoliydaev
05-08-2007, 07:28 AM
Mdaa, kuda modera smotryat, nemedlenno nado zaktir thread.:evil:
Зачем? По-моему очень аппетитно все выглядит
yuhakseng
05-08-2007, 07:35 AM
Зачем? По-моему очень аппетитно все выглядит
Приятного аппетита тогда тебе :)
errоr
05-08-2007, 07:38 AM
Mdaa, kuda modera smotryat, nemedlenno nado zaktir thread.:evil:
да лана тебе! подумаешь запостили пару-другую медицинских снимков... слабый желудок? делай как я... :)
errоr
05-08-2007, 07:40 AM
hmm abort materialini?
ёпты! спасибо... дык... блевать уже не чем! :lol:
infolife
05-08-2007, 08:04 AM
Lady,
sendan rostanam zo'r research asistant chiqadi.shunaqa narsalani qadan topasan:rolleyes:
men uchun bu koz korib quloq eshitmagan yangilik boldi:shock: fuuu,wey...
Camellia
05-08-2007, 08:56 AM
Abort materiali kosmetikada ishlatilishi haqida eshitmagandim, lekin placentani yoshartiruvchi effectlari haqida yaxshi bilaman.
Placenta kosmetika industriyasida anchadan beri qollaniladi, asosan yoshartiruvchi, ajin ketqazuvchi mahsulotlar tarkibida boladi. Bu degani bilan hamma yoshartiruvchi kosmetika tarkibida placenta bor deb oylash notugri.
Placentali kosmetika odatda juda qimmat turadi.
Hozir abort materiali ham kosmetika ishlab chiqarish sanoatida qollanilgani haqida yozilgan maqolaga duch keldim.
A CHINESE COSMETICS COMPANY has been using parts of aborted babies to developing beauty products that have reportedly been sold in Europe.
The issue was covered in a larger newspaper report about the same company using skin from the bodies of executed convicts to make wrinkle cream.
A spokesman for the company, which the newspaper failed to identify for “legal” reasons, said the process was “traditional” and nothing to “make such a big fuss about.”
“A lot of the research is still carried out in the traditional manner using skin from the executed prisoners and aborted fetus. In China it is considered very normal and I was very shocked that Western countries can make such a big fuss about this.”
Human rights groups will surely, and rightfully, condemn the use of skin from executive convicts. But will they say anything about using parts of aborted babies?
Probably not.
Retrieved from Abortion Watch (http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/aggregator.php?sid=665)
Eng qimmatli narsa bu placenta va pupovina qoni. Yangi tugilgan chaqaloqni kindigini kesishgandan keyin placentada qoladigan qonni medicinada juda ahamiyati katta. Bu qon oddiy odamlarnikidan farq qiladi, undagi foydali hujayralar bilan saraton (rak, cancer) kasali bilan ogrigan bemorni davolash mumkin. Kimyoterapiya natijasida holsizlashgan organizmni aynan shu qon orqali kuchga kirgazish mumkin. Hozirgi kunda bu qon bilan asablarni tiklash uchun foydalanish mumkinligi olimlar tomonidan tekshirilmoqda.
Garbda kopgina ota-onalar bu qonni saqlash uchun mahsus joylarga (cord blood banks) murojaat qilishmoqda. Bu qonni 20 yil saqlash mumkin va kelajakda qarindoshlar yoki oila a'zolarida saraton kasali chiqsa, saqlangan qondan foydalanish imkoni boladi. AQShda qonni saqlash uchun ortacha yiliga $ 100-200 to'lanadi. Shuningdek qonni o'z ihtiyori bilan bepul topshirish mumkin. Bunda placenta qoni ehtiyoji bor insonlarga qollanilishi mumkin.
Camellia
05-08-2007, 09:29 AM
Tom Cuise ham yegan Suri qizini placentasini..
Tom Cruise "hotinim tuqqanidan keyin qizimni placentasini yiman" deb hazillashgan, shunchaki mediada koproq shov-shuv bolsin degan...
Tom Cruise made the front pages by joking that he was going to eat the placenta when his fiancee gave birth. Although in an interview with a US television news network, Cruise denied such a suggestion...
Source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4918290.stm)
O'zi nima uchun placentani iste'mol qilishadi? Undan sogliqqa biron bir naf bolmasa... :rolleyes: Placenta qoni rak kasalligini davolash uchun foydali, lekin ozini pishirib yeyishdan biron bir naf yoqku :?
Odatda hayvonlar tuqqanidan keyin ozini placentasini homligicha yedirishadi, masalan kuchuk va mushuklarga... Chunki tuqqandan keyin shu placenta orqali yana kuchga toladi, tezroq sut keladi...
anatoliydaev
05-08-2007, 09:33 AM
Больше рецептов не будет?
yuhakseng
05-08-2007, 09:39 AM
Больше рецептов не будет?
Толян, лучше пиво надо пить хорошего сорта :)
anatoliydaev
05-08-2007, 09:41 AM
Толян, лучше пиво надо пить хорошего сорта :)
Для хорошего пива нужна закусь :)
Vezunchik
05-08-2007, 10:55 AM
mlinnn, po vecher vsyo isportili. Nado bi`lo v nachale napisat "slaboharakterni`m, chustvitelni`m i normalni`m useram ne zahodit".
Devushki, esli hotite uluchshit koju:
1. To prosto, peyte kajdoe utro polugoryachiy moloko s saharom i myodom v techenii 20 dney. Koja budet chistoy, beloy, sveji`y i Chetki`y.
2. I esho, chitayte namaz 5 raz. dlya namaza neobhodimo Taharati. Esli 5 raz budite mi`t` vashu aziatskuyu (polubeli`y-plukorichni`vi`y) lichku, to uskoritsya regeneratsiya novogo kojnogo pokrova, svejaya voda pridast bolshe naturalnoy enrgii k molekulam koji, Gryaz, nakoplenni`y v techenii dnya uydet, lishni`y (tolko) jir budet udalyatsya bi`stree iz koji. I esho, nemalovajno: kogda 5 raz dnya budete sajda i budite sidet nagnuv konechnosti nogi, to nervnaya sistema i sistema krovaobrasheniya budet aktivizirovana, i aktivnaya dvijeniya krovi budet trebovat bolshe kisloroda, sootvetsvenno ne tolko Di`hatelni`e organi`, no i pori` koji` toje budut aktivizirovani` i pitat kislarod, sootvetstvenno oni stanut bolee jivi`mi. I svejimi. Morshini` uydut, Stanete Krassavitsami!!!
Pojaluysta ne kushayte platsentov, i ne delayte radi etogo aborti`!:))) jk.
Royal
05-08-2007, 11:07 AM
endi bu threadni manbinga qoshvorilsa yanayam zor korinish bolarkan lekin:
http://forum.arbuz.com/showthread.php?p=705023#post705023
Camellia
05-08-2007, 11:41 AM
Bu yerda tushunmovchilik bolayapti.
Mavzu zamonaviy atir-upa (kosmetika) ishlab chiqarish sanoatida abort materialidan foydalanish haqida.
Kosmetika industriyasida abort materialidan foydalanish qattiyan ma'n qilingan, bunga qaramasdan ba'zi bir Hitoy kosmetika firmalari abort materialidan kosmetika ishlab chiqarishgan. Hullas, bu masalaga qanday qaraysizlar degan mavzuda bahs bolishi kerak. Shunchaki masalaga doir o'z munosabatingizni bildiring.
Placentadan tayyorlangan ovqat receptlarini mavzuga aloqasi yoq, buning uchun alohida thread ochish mumkin.
Iltimos off-topic postlar yozmang. Mavzuga doir rasmlarni ochiqchasiga qoyish shart emas, link berish yetarli. Forumda medicina sohasida o'qimaydigan yoki ishlamaydigan a'zolarni ham hissiyotlarini inobatga olish kerak...
Inspiredmind
05-08-2007, 12:03 PM
LOL>:D >Astag'firullo.. na kulisan odam bu forumchilarni hazillarini e'shitib, na seroius bolasan picslarga karab,,men uchun bu thread Infolife honim aytganidek, ko'z ko'rmadi kulok e'shitmadi...
Ооох, Боже мой!
Да чего же противно стало после етого threada.
П.С. хорошо, что не обедала еше, ато точно мне плохо стало бы.
Lady_G
05-08-2007, 01:16 PM
Lady,
sendan rostanam zo'r research asistant chiqadi.shunaqa narsalani qadan topasan:rolleyes:
men uchun bu koz korib quloq eshitmagan yangilik boldi:shock: fuuu,wey...
hehe :)
Buyam mavzuga tegishlimasu, lekin nimaga jirkanasizlar placentadan chunmadim? Ahir har bitta chaqaloq shu orqali rivojlanadiyu. Balkim ko'zlaringiz o'rganmaganigami, yoki bilmimanu, lek hech jirkanch narsa deb bilmiman.
Bu placenta ishlatish anchadan beri bor. O'zi netni azgina kavlasang ancha muncha narsa topasan. Ukamni kompiniku etmayin nimala chiqib qomidi. Mani winimku ohhooo :)
Placenta Use in Cosmetics
Placenta cosmetics are another proven trend that follows in the heels of ayurveda skincare, skin patches, and acid peels. First started with a simple injection in the 1930s, it has been hailed as an excellent skin healer because of its nourishing qualities. Since the placenta is the lining of the womb, which helps the fetus get its food, placenta cosmetics has been proven to produce wonders for the skin.
Placenta is best known as an anti-aging product. Placenta cosmetics do their jobs by stimulating cell renewal function in the body. Ultimately, cell renewal function helps to slow down the aging process we dread. During the early years of its use, cosmetics manufacturers thought that placenta cells helped to boost the stimulating of tissue growth and removed wrinkles. It achieved a reputation in the past as being strictly for the rich and famous. Reports have surfaced that Jennifer Lopez used this treatment earlier in her career. After all, each injection of placenta costs in the $5000 to $10000 range.
Today, placenta use is now a luxury for “normal” people as well. Today, there are plenty of placenta based natural skin care products that include an assortment of wrinkle creams and face masks. Not restricted to women, there are also aftershaves for men, eye creams, breast creams, and collagen based creams that helps moisturize the skin and actually aid with the body’s natural ability to produce collagen for smoother skin. Placenta based cream scrubs also help to clear pores and stimulate blood circulation, which helps prevent cellulite (remember, poor blood circulation and a slow metabolism helps lead to the buildup of cell waste beneath the surface of the skin.)
A common conception within the scientific industry is that natural skin care products, like placenta, do a better job of healing the skin than those without cell extracts. If this is the case, placenta cosmetic products are as natural as you can get – given the fact the placenta originates straight from the womb’s lining and is responsible for nourishing the fetus. It is always important, though, to read the product labels of any cosmetic product you see on the shelves. Keep in mind that the FDA does not approve products that claim to be “hypoallergenic” or “cruelty to animal free.” As is the case with placenta products, try them out today to achieve the moisturized healthy look your skin craves.
anatoliydaev
05-08-2007, 01:32 PM
Lady_G, лучше выкладывай сюда рецепты. Я записываю.
Lady_G
05-08-2007, 01:41 PM
Lady_G, лучше выкладывай сюда рецепты. Я записываю.Yo'q endi boshqa qo'ymiman, tekinga beravermimande receptlarimni.
lobar
05-08-2007, 02:16 PM
Лобархон, гемотоген шоколади буқани қонидан қилинади. Шунча бачадонни қонини қаердан топишади деб ўйлаь кўрмганмисиз? Эмбрион ва плацентадан тайёрланадиган дорилар (!!!) фақат кучли этик нормаларни хисобга олган холда тайёранади деб ўйлайман. У Ўзб.да этик нормалар бир тийин. Чет элда бунга қаттиқ қаралади.
Маслахатим жуда хам унчалик conspiracy theory га берилиб кетманг.
Vay uzzzzrrrrr, bachadonmas, yo'ldoshdan tayorlanardi. Siz Gemotagen ishlab chiqaruvchilarni o'zidan so'rab ko'ring qanaqa tayorlanishini. Man hich qanaqa conspiracy theorygayam berilib ketganim yo ;) Chunki o'zimam kichkinaligimda judayam ko'p yegaman undan, hozir qusib o'tirganim yo'q
hh agar shuncha yo'ldoshni qattan topishadi dib o'ylab ko'radigan bo'seyz, sizga etib qo'yaqoliy, tuqqandan keyin yo'ldosh onaga kerey bo'miydi
Lady_G
05-08-2007, 03:08 PM
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/1769/allmd3.jpg
Гематоген, рождающий силу и кровь
Гематоген... Эти вкусные сладкие плитки хорошо известны и детям, и взрослым. И хотя гематоген, имея почтенный лечебный возраст, не является последним криком фармацевтической моды, перед нами поистине замечательный и во многом непревзойденный профилактический эликсир. Название средства, в переводе с греческого означающее "рождающий кровь", говорит само за себя. Стимуляторов кроветворения предложено, как известно, немало. В чем же состоит отличие и преимущества гематогена?
Его основа - сухая дефибринированная кровь крупного рогатого скота. Главный компонент гематогена проходит технологическую обработку таким образом, чтобы максимально сохранить целебные свойства красных кровяных телец - эритроцитов, сохраняется и багряная окраска продукта, связанную с наличием гемоглобина.
Разумеется, первичная сырьевая масса в процессе производства облагораживается. Так, гематоген содержит сгущенное молоко, сахар, другие ингредиенты, придающие продукту приятный вкус, благодаря чему он с успехом может заменить любое лакомство.
Нужно отметить, что гемоглобин проходит необходимый лабораторный контроль и строго соответствует государственным стандартам.
Почему гематоген полезен всем и каждому? Стоит вспомнить опыт Великой Отечественной войны, когда это весьма простое средство не только широко использовалось в госпиталях для нормализации у раненых состава крови, но и служило ценной пищевой добавкой к пищевому рациону в действующих войсках. Показательно, например, что в "Военно-медицинском журнале" за 1945 год есть статья о таком многоцелевом применении гематогена. Военные медики, проводившие клинические испытания гематогена на больных и раненых, отметили одинаковые клинические сдвиги: Общее самочувствие значительно улучшалось, повышался общий тонус, прибывали силы, увеличивалась активность, работоспособность, кожа становилась гладкой, эластичной, отмечалось прекращение жалоб на голод. В результате проведенных испытаний Главвоенсанупромом даны указания к широкому использованию в госпиталях белковых препаратов для обогащения ими пищевого рациона раненых и больных. Были рекомендованы различные блюда с использованием гематогена. Например, омлет на основе жидкого гематогена помогал преодолевать "куриную слепоту", нарушение, вызванное недостатком витамина А.
Нынешнее время, когда у многих людей, вследствие экономических неурядиц возник дефицит белков и витаминов в питании, но усилилось нервное и эмоциональное перенапряжение, можно, пожалуй, сравнить с трудными днями войны. И тут именно гематоген может оказаться мощным подспорьем в сохранении и восстановлении здоровья.
Гематоген богат витаминами, ферментами и представляет собой специфическое лекарство, действующее как своеобразное переливание крови и эффективно противостоящее малокровию. При приеме гемоглобина в организм вводится совершенная белковая структура. Гематоген - это ценный белок с высоким питательным потенциалом.
Особо надо сказать о гематогене как о продукте, богатом витамином А. Он способствует нормальному обмену веществ, нормализации зрительной функции, росту организма, устойчивости слизистых оболочек дыхательных путей и пищеварительного тракта. Суточная доза гематогена обеспечивает организм необходимым количеством витамина А. И тут стоит вновь вспомнить опыт медицины военных лет по использованию гематогена.
Таковы три плюса гематогена:
стимуляция кроветворения
чудесная добавка к пищевому рациону
источник витамина А
Это дает нам право говорить о гематогене как о лечебно-питательном продукте первостепенного значения. Его успешно применяют при различных формах анемий, недостаточном питании, истощении организма различного происхождения.
munisa
05-08-2007, 07:54 PM
lobar opa, yuqoridagi 'qiliqlar' ga qarshi guruhlar borligiga ishonaman. bilmadim qo'llanilishini qanchalik oshkora qilishadi, lekin hech bo'lmaganda qandaydir limitlar borligi aniq. Gematogen haqida to'g'risi men ham ishonmadim. bo'lish mumkin emas - bunday narsa uchun gematogen o'ta massoviy iste'mol turi.
Lady_G, you've always been the Queen of the Searches and Info :lol: What or Who is your search engine ? Plz share it with us.
anatoliydaev
05-09-2007, 05:05 AM
Вот пообедал. Решил заглянуть.
anatoliydaev
05-09-2007, 10:17 AM
Получил warning. Хорошо хоть модер не удалил рецепты. Каждый день буду заглядывать после обеда. Самый аппетитный топик.
errоr
05-09-2007, 10:25 AM
Получил warning. Хорошо хоть модер не удалил рецепты. Каждый день буду заглядывать после обеда. Самый аппетитный топик.
off: чет я не понял... за что тебе warning влепили??? :shock:
on: конечно, хороший и познавательный топик! для любителей поесть чего нибудь єкзотического! LOOL
anatoliydaev
05-09-2007, 10:26 AM
off: чет я не понял... за что тебе warning влепили??? :shock:
on: конечно, хороший и познавательный топик! для любителей поесть чего нибудь єкзотического! LOOL
За флуд на таком аппетитном топике.
anatoliydaev
05-09-2007, 10:42 AM
Все понял. Не нада больше ворнингов. Ушел искать рецепты.
Ismoilzoda
05-12-2007, 02:55 PM
Умуман олганда шу косметика жониворнинг нима кераги бор экан дейман.
Ахир табиий гузалликка нима етсин. Шпаклевкани ювиб ташлаганда, ундан олидинги яхши таасурот чиппакка чикади.
Табиий булиб юриш керак. Ёктирадиган одам шундок хам ёктираверади.
Узини чироойлиии килиб курсатиб юришни хеч зарурати йук деб уйлайман.
Хаммамизга инсоф берсин....
Lady_G
05-12-2007, 03:00 PM
Умуман олганда шу косметика жониворнинг нима кераги бор экан дейман.
Ахир табиий гузалликка нима етсин. Шпаклевкани ювиб ташлаганда, ундан олидинги яхши таасурот чиппакка чикади.
Табиий булиб юриш керак. Ёктирадиган одам шундок хам ёктираверади.
Узини чироойлиии килиб курсатиб юришни хеч зарурати йук деб уйлайман.
Хаммамизга инсоф берсин....
Kosmetika nimaga deysizmi? O'sha tabiyat berganini saqlab qolish uchun ;)
A tak "ayollar erkelarga yoqish uchunmas, boshqa ayollarni 'yengish', ulardan go'zalroq bo'Lish uchun harakat qilishadi ;)" ~o'qituvchim
bacha
05-12-2007, 03:32 PM
Хороший топик. Почему не в `Ошхона Сирлари`?
Ismoilzoda
05-12-2007, 03:36 PM
A tak "ayollar erkelarga yoqish uchunmas, boshqa ayollarni 'yengish', ulardan go'zalroq bo'Lish uchun harakat qilishadi ;)" ~o'qituvchim
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Койил, бу хакда уйлаб курмабман
anatoliydaev
05-13-2007, 02:00 AM
Хороший топик. Почему не в `Ошхона Сирлари`?
Я тоже задавал этот вопрос? Можно было бы создать тему "Тайны экзотической кухни" ведь кроме плаценты, есть еше столько всего экзотического из чего можно приготовить обед.
AbuMuslim
12-29-2007, 09:17 AM
бир танишим агар аёл хунук (урод) булса гарб косметикаси билан уни яширади деган маънодаги бир гапни гапирган эди, шунда нима дейишга хайрон бўлувдим??? : ))))
AbuMuslim
08-23-2008, 11:46 AM
Kosmetika nimaga deysizmi? O'sha tabiyat berganini saqlab qolish uchun ;)
A tak "ayollar erkelarga yoqish uchunmas, boshqa ayollarni 'yengish', ulardan go'zalroq bo'Lish uchun harakat qilishadi ;)" ~o'qituvchim
Мен аёллар косметикадан эркакларга "чиройлик" кщриниш учун фойдаланса керак деб юрардим... бу аёллар орасидан "я всех переплюну" деган маъно эканлигини билмас эдим... :lol:
LIBRA
08-23-2008, 12:00 PM
ko'nglim aynib ketti....
bekorga kiribman!
Тюльпан
08-23-2008, 12:09 PM
ko'nglim aynib ketti....
bekorga kiribman!
Сизни куйниз айнасин деб специально архивлардан чикиб келяптику бу тредлар... Либрахон...:(
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