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nobody
09-15-2001, 06:57 PM
Uhhh, at least i found it.
About Homosexuality.
The question and answer.
Question.
Salam
I am a 22 year old girl living in Australia. I have found that i am in contact with a growing number of homesexuals (not my choice, just by chance) i would like to know how i should behave towards them and i would also like to ask, in the teachings of Islam, how is the existance of these people explained. they say that they are born that way and they cant help the way they are, they also have science to prove them right, what does islam say about about this. Are they evil and do they have a choice. i know that islam forbids homesexuality (both male and female), but i havn't been able to find information on why, or how they came to be, and i find that when i am in a discussion on this topic i have nothing to support my beliefs.
thankyou for your time
nobody
09-15-2001, 06:58 PM
Answer.
In the name of ALLAH
Ultimate wisdom of Allah in this universe necessitates ultimate surrender. We never heard about someone who has got an ability of precisely forecasting the future events except for what has been told by Messengers and Prophets of Allah.
So, a lot of phenomena have been left unexplained. It would be a kind of interference in the Divine Wisdom to stubbornly try one’s mind in any of them.
Beauty and ugliness.. Intelligence and foolishness.. Poverty and richness.. Moderation and abnormality.. And so on , so many pairs of contradictory features .. But WHY ??
Sometimes we come to know partial explanation though oftentimes we stay astounded and astonished why .. why .. why ..
When Allah created us He mercifully did not burden us to find interpretations for these subtle pieces of creation. Whereas a lot of people, curiously insist to involve themselves, wasting our time and efforts, and theirs as well, in vain
The purpose behind creation must not be deviated away from its designated aim and objective. The whole thing is a trial for the Human Kind. We are lucky enough to be Moslem. We have been spared a lot of time and hardship to reach reality. It is in our hands.
Every bit of detail ,as far as community is concerned , are there .. in the hearts of Islamic Books … handy for everyone to understand if he realy are looking for reality and best guidance ..and so all other concerned subjects.
Judaism, Christianity and Islam has come to tackle the issue of humanity. Relation between the two sexes is common among the Three revelations. No one religion permitted adultery, homosexuality or lesbianism.
It is part of man’s nature to slip away from obligations. If he is not tightly adhering to the Creator’s Guidance, he is left to his mind and other corruptive resources to satisfy his needs.
With the absence of Guidance, besides corruption spreading all over the whole world nowadays, it is not strange to see the collapse of humanity to rock-bottom.
An example of this can be found in satisfying sexual desire by means of very strange abnormal methods. Lesbianism is one of taht type. To your information, some would not feel satisfied unless he practices with animals. Others might insert strange objects.. Others would torture his partner before they realize eroticism or reach climax.. a lot of examples illustrate man’s deviation from the Divine Guidance.
To sum up, when man leaves Divine Guidance behind and replaces Allah with other Idols.. no wonder if once you hear someone claiming to be a Messenger from Allah (instances of this are found in the past history and will still till Doomsday) .. no wonder if someone Idolize sex .. no wonder when another claims he is a God ( the Pharos were an example) .. and so many occurrences of similar examples and historical evidences that undoubtedly show what could become of humanity if leaving Divine Guidance and Islam behind.
“” It may be thou frettest thy soul with grief, that they do not become Believers”” Shuaraa (3)
“Perhaps you would kill yourself(O Muhammad in grief over their footsteps (for their turning away from you), because they believe not in this narration ( the Quran)” Al Kahf (6)
nobody
09-15-2001, 06:59 PM
Exposing these two verses to light we got the following :
§ It is not recommend (by Allah) for conveying a message to busy oneself with the circumstance or reflection of targeted called upon persons.
§ A messenger has to announce and declare his message as publicly as he can no matter what the consequences may be and regardless of the reaction either positive or negative.
You , my sister, has some similarity to the case above !! you feel unable to defend your beliefs against deviations and abnormalities around you.
You feel sorry that those lesbians are doing wrong but you are unable to convince them WHY???
They show some false support of science for their case to be normal ..and still you feel more perplexed ( they may be right !!)
To tell the truth , we are away from our protective shelter of Islam. We are supposed to escape befriending such groups and keep away as far as we can.
If we have enough Islamic Charge we would be more courageous to stand such waves of corruption and sick-minded output.
In fact you primarily are supposed to adhere to Islamic traditions and teachings:
§ You have to keep the five times prayer.
§ Keep as far as you can from such distorted forms of human being.
§ Why don’t we deeply believe in our religion as they deeply believe in their Lesbian behavior ?? You are sure you are in the right direction and you are not as bold as they are! They say that they are scientifically supported!! But it never come to your mind to tell them we are divinely supported!! First try to be strongly equipped with Iman and you will be given reason and logic to be able with very simple sentences to influentially penetrate through their ideas.
§ Facing and arguing such deviated groups is not a target for a Moslem to hit as long as he is not entitled to it.
§ Average Moslem is required to be as close as possible to Islam represented by its protective ways : Salat , reciting Quran , keeping away from places of suspicion ,being nice to others , helping the needy and so many other Islamic morals that distinguish a Moslem from others.
§ By so doing, others might be attracted to you with admire and desire to follow such a clean and pure model of yours…. This might be the best way to convince others of your message as a Moslem .. and might be more stronger than long hours of useless dispute and argument.
§ Don’t think that avoiding such groups is considered as a point of weakness … in the contrary… Allalh Ordered the best Moslem in the excellent and most praiseworthy generations to be ware of coming any closer to Adultery “ And come not near to the unlawful sexual intercourse.” Who in the whole world now can claim the deeply-routed faith once existed in Omar or Abu Bakir or Othman or Ali ( Allah be pleased with them all) ?? we are advised not to be near it .. meaning not even passing by a house we know its inhabitants are of any relation to adultery or any similar immoral inclinations.
Using the Verses guidance we can say :
We have a house on fire …
What do you think the best way to SAVE yourself out of fire !!
1. Go inside the house carrying a fire EXTINGUSIHER ?
2. Keep DISTANCE from location?
3. Go INSIDE the house looking for survivals?
Choice one : Correct .. if you are a fireman ..
Choice two : Correct .. and the safest for almost 99 percent ..
Choice three : it is the one you are involved in now ..
Finally, I would advise you to handle this case with care and caution. And as long as you are obliged to live among them keep away as much as you can.
Behave like a Moslem should do. Show purity and chastity and never miss one day without praising and glorifying Allah .
Keep in mind that Allah would forget the Salve who is forgetting HIM.
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Allahu A'lam
nobody
09-15-2001, 07:01 PM
nobody (Sep 15, 2001 18:57):
Uhhh, at least i found it.
....
Sorry, i wanted to say " at last" not " at least" .
Akhee-Abdullah
09-15-2001, 08:58 PM
Islam's Position on Homosexuality
Homosexuality and lesbianism have been dubbed “alternative life-styles”, “personal preference”, “a natural variation”, etc. in the West today. Where homosexuality was considered an illness by the Association of Psychiatrists, it is now removed from the list and replaced by homophobia (the dislike of homosexuals and homosexuality). Consequently, Islam and Muslims are considered intolerant and biased due to their continued opposition. Arguments in favor of tolerance to homosexuals are based on the assumption that homosexual behavior is biologically based and not merely learned from society.
Early opposition to homosexuality was based on the argument that such behavior was unnatural. Sodomy cannot produce children which is one of the main natural consequences of sexual relations. “Mother Nature” did not make us that way, it was argued. To counter such arguments homosexual researchers scoured the earth until they found supposed homosexual behavior among the animal kingdom. They found that the males of some species of exotic fishes off the coast of Japan imitated the behavior of females of the species in order to prevent other males from impregnating their mates, and some rare butterflies from islands of the coast of Africa also had males exhibiting female behavior during mating season, etc. However, if the animal kingdom is to be used to justify human behavior, there also exists a spider in South America, whose female is much larger than the male. When mating is complete, the female eats her mate.
During the 80’s it was claimed that a gland in the base of the brain which is small in women and large in men was found to be small among homosexuals. However, this evidence, while seeming incontrovertible to the layman, was immediately refuted by scientists. The data was taken from cross-sections of the brains of dead adult humans whose sexual preference was identified prior to death. Consequently, the reduced size among homosexuals could have been a result of the practice and not its cause. That is, they could have been born with normal sized glands which then became small due to their deviant lifestyle.
Recently genetics has become the most commonly used foundation for the pro-gay argument. In 1993 Dr. Dean Hamer, a researcher at the National Cancer Institute, claimed to have discovered “the first concrete evidence that ‘gay genes’ really do exist.” Homosexual orientation was supposedly transmitted to males on the X chromosome from the mother. Hamer’s findings, published in the prestigious journal Science, transformed his colorless career as a government scientist into a dynamic media personality and penned his memoirs. He gave expert testimony to the Colorado Supreme Court that formed the basis of the victorious decision striking down anti-gay Proposition 2. However, a replication of his study at the University of Western Ontario failed to find any linkage whatsoever between the X chromosome and sexual orientation. It was also found that Hamer’s study lacked a control group; a fundamental principle of scientific research.
Akhee-Abdullah
09-15-2001, 08:59 PM
Furthermore, in June 1994, the Chicago Tribune reported that a junior researcher in Hamer’s laboratory who assisted in the gene mapping in the homosexuality study, alleged that he selectively reported his data. She was then summarily dismissed from her post-doctoral fellowship in Hamer’s lab. But a National Institutes of Health investigation substantiated her claims and gave her another position in a different lab. Though Dr. Hamer was coy about his own sexuality in his memoirs, he later admitted in his lectures that he was gay.
It should be noted that Islam, in its final form, did not introduce anti-gay legislature to the world. The texts of the Torah are replete with clear condemnation of such practices.
The consequence of AIDS is enough to prove that homosexuality is evil and dangerous to society. The early spread of AIDS was concentrated among the homosexual community. It later spread to the heterosexual community through blood transfusions and intravenous drug usage and so-called bisexuals. And continues on a rampage among promiscuous heterosexuals.
Islam considers homosexuality to be the result of a choice. It is inconceivable that God made people homosexuals then declared it a crime and prescribed punishments for it in both this life and the next. To accept such a proposition is to accept that God is unjust. Inclinations can exist within humans for a variety of natural and unnatural acts, from fornication to rape and from necrophilia to bestiality. These inclinations may come from jinn-suggestions, media influence, or even from human whisperings or direct contact. Human beings are not like robots who only do what they are programmed to do. Humans choose and God holds them responsible for their choices. Were homosexuality a product of genetic destiny, it would be unfair for God to criminalize it and punish those who practice it. Currently, some scientists are even claiming that murder is of genetic origin. To accept that would mean to excuse murderers and tolerate murder.
Islam instructs parents to separate their children in their beds by the age of ten in order to avoid sexual experiences which may result from childhood experimentation. Such experiences may be reinforced by contacts in schools and through abuse from adults. Also the distinctions between male and female are strongly made in Islamic teachings. The Prophet cursed men who imitated women and women who imitated men. The Western fashion industry is controlled by homosexuals who attempt to blur the distinction between males and females in order to make their behavior more acceptable. Consequently, men’s fashion has become more feminine in style and color and women are now wearing three-piece suits, ties and hats and traditionally men’s shoes. These distinctions may be relative and vary from society to society. For example, in Scotland men traditionally wear little knee-length dresses called “kilts”. In Scotland it would not be considered imitation of females, but in a society where only women wear such dress it would be considered imitation.
Cheers, :)
naughty
09-16-2001, 06:52 AM
Salaam
My friends,
i think it is enough to say that it is one of KABAIR.
naughty
09-16-2001, 07:06 AM
anywas it is good that you are explaining that
i found a very good article about that but unfortunately it is in turkish and in a magazine. it takes too much time to bring it here
anyway yours is also excellent :)
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