Participation in DVLottery affects renewal of F1 visa?

[Elvie]

Hi Guys,

I participated in the DV2008 lottery, but didn't win it. And now I want to go back to Uzb. to renew my F1 visa as it expired this month. Do you guys think I might have problems not gettin a new F1 just because I participated in DV2008 lottery?

Please, those who know or had similar cases, please advise!
I would really appreciate it!

Thank you in advance!

Elvie

[melo]

Hi Guys,

I participated in the DV2008 lottery, but didn't win it. And now I want to go back to Uzb. to renew my F1 visa as it expired this month. Do you guys think I might have problems not gettin a new F1 just because I participated in DV2008 lottery?

Please, those who know or had similar cases, please advise!
I would really appreciate it!

Thank you in advance!

Elvie

The DV2008 lotter is not finished. How do you know that you did not win? I believe it will not be completed until July.

[SmIlIk]

Hi Guys,

I participated in the DV2008 lottery, but didn't win it. And now I want to go back to Uzb. to renew my F1 visa as it expired this month. Do you guys think I might have problems not gettin a new F1 just because I participated in DV2008 lottery?

Please, those who know or had similar cases, please advise!
I would really appreciate it!

Thank you in advance!

Elvie

It will not have effect on ur F1. If u already have some student background in US playing in lottery will not harm u at all.

...Elvie about ur PM to me the answer is NO. One of the requirements of DV u have to undergo medical checkup. If there is something wrong with candidate, he/she might get rejected. U have to talk to a lawyer about it.

SMLK

[Elvie]

SmIlIk,

So you're saying they won't look at it as an intent to immigrate, only because we have a student status? I really hope so!
Because, one friend of mine just told me yesterday that when she was waiting for her turn for interview in the Consulate, one lady who actually was being interviewed for B1/B2 visa got a rejection just because they checked and found out she participated in DVLottery (meaning she has an intent to immigrate).

Thank you SmIlIk so much!

PS. Regarding the DVLottery winner who has cancer: I checked the list of diseases that makes the applicant ineligible for DV program, and Cancer was not there! I heard US Government may help in those kind of cases especially when you have residency.

Elvie.

It will not have effect on ur F1. If u already have some student background in US playing in lottery will not harm u at all.

...Elvie about ur PM to me the answer is NO. One of the requirements of DV u have to undergo medical checkup. If there is something wrong with candidate, he/she might get rejected. U have to talk to a lawyer about it.

SMLK

[SmIlIk]

SmIlIk,

So you're saying they won't look at it as an intent to immigrate, only because we have a student status? I really hope so!
Because, one friend of mine just told me yesterday that when she was waiting for her turn for interview in the Consulate, one lady who actually was being interviewed for B1/B2 visa got a rejection just because they checked and found out she participated in DVLottery (meaning she has an intent to immigrate).

Thank you SmIlIk so much!

PS. Regarding the DVLottery winner who has cancer: I checked the list of diseases that makes the applicant ineligible for DV program, and Cancer was not there! I heard US Government may help in those kind of cases especially when you have residency.

Elvie.
Elvie, cases like B1/B2 are different than Student Visas. Intent is different. Most people who enter embassy for tourist visas are under category of immigation attempt. Students are not under that category (so called category :). I could go deep into details why but I don't think you need it.

SMLK

P.S. Good to hear about DV :) I will keep that in mind too.

[MDB]

Elvie, why u wanna renew your student visa u can stay here legally even if it will expire,just get a new I-20.The fact that u participated in DV lotter might effect on your interview it dipends on VO. Just give detaily information on your situation...

[Elvie]

MDB,

I heard that we can stay legally w/in the US even w/ an expired VISA's. But I have an emergancy situation right now: one of my family members is very sick so I need to go to visit that person who is very valuable to me!
Also, I am going to school here in the US. I am hoping I am gonna be OK!


Elvie.

Elvie, why u wanna renew your student visa u can stay here legally even if it will expire,just get a new I-20.The fact that u participated in DV lotter might effect on your interview it dipends on VO. Just give detaily information on your situation...

[MDB]

rt, I am sorry about it and hope that your relative will be OK...I think ur visa interview will go smoothly...Just dont forget to get a new I-20 from ur adviser and to give an I-94 to immigration officer,don't keep it with u...Good luck Elvie and let us know how was everything.

Cheers.

[Googler]

I participated in the DV2008 lottery, but didn't win it.


Winning notification letters are sent by KCC to successful winners up to August. You have two and a half months ahead.

And now I want to go back to Uzb. to renew my F1 visa as it expired this month.

I did not understand you quite well. F1 visa is issued covering all duration of your courses at educational institutes in USA. I guess you mean you've ended up your courses and plan a new course or degree, am I right?

Do you guys think I might have problems not gettin a new F1 just because I participated in DV2008 lottery?

Applications to Diversity Visa Lottery do not harm any indivudual's getting any types of non-immigrant visas unless you have sent 'first winning package' to KCC.

[Googler]

Because, one friend of mine just told me yesterday that when she was waiting for her turn for interview in the Consulate, one lady who actually was being interviewed for B1/B2 visa got a rejection just because they checked and found out she participated in DVLottery (meaning she has an intent to immigrate).

You can be rejected only in getting nonimmigrant visas once you win the lottery and send a properly filled 'first package' to KCC. Once KCC gets the package and starts processing, you will not be issued a nonimmigrant visa of ANY TYPES as you have already proved your immigrant intentions.


PS. Regarding the DVLottery winner who has cancer: I checked the list of diseases that makes the applicant ineligible for DV program, and Cancer was not there! I heard US Government may help in those kind of cases especially when you have residency.

I wrote about this case at the previous thread.

[anchio]

You can be rejected only in getting nonimmigrant visas once you win the lottery and send a properly filled 'first package' to KCC. Once KCC gets the package and starts processing, you will not be issued a nonimmigrant visa of ANY TYPES as you have already proved your immigrant intentions.


googler, when one participates in DV, doesn't it already show one's intention to immigrate?

[Googler]

googler, when one participates in DV, doesn't it already show one's intention to immigrate?

No, it does not.
Suppose you applied for DV lottery and you were lucky that you got 'first package' from KCC. If you fill all applications enclosed in the package and mail it to KCC and as soon as KCC starts processing ur case from this moment the Consulate will know that you have shown your immigrant intentions.

To be short you can apply for DV lottery every year and if you do not win, your application to DV lottery DOES not effect your nonimmigrant visa getting process.

But when you apply for nonimmigrant visa and if a concular officer asks about your previous application for DV lottery, don't lie and tell the truth. It does not effect your interview process.

[melo]

No, it does not.
Suppose you applied for DV lottery and you were lucky that you got 'first package' from KCC. If you fill all applications enclosed in the package and mail it to KCC and as soon as KCC starts processing ur case from this moment the Consulate will know that you have shown your immigrant intentions.

To be short you can apply for DV lottery every year and if you do not win, your application to DV lottery DOES not effect your nonimmigrant visa getting process.

But when you apply for nonimmigrant visa and if a concular officer asks about your previous application for DV lottery, don't lie and tell the truth. It does not effect your interview process.

How are you so sure about this? I have always heard that applying for the DV lottery shows intention to immigrate.

[Googler]

How are you so sure about this? I have always heard that applying for the DV lottery shows intention to immigrate.

Человек может получить неиммиграционные визы несмотря на свое участие в DV лотерее. Одного участия в лотерее для отказа в визах недостаточно.
Многие люди получают разные визы (естественно неиммиграционные) несмотря на участие в лотерее.

[melo]

Человек может получить неиммиграционные визы несмотря на свое участие в DV лотерее. Одного участия в лотерее для отказа в визах недостаточно.
Многие люди получают разные визы (естественно неиммиграционные) несмотря на участие в лотерее.

My question is what are you basing this on?

[Elvie]

Googler,

I see what you're saying... However, what if my parents actually received the first package of DVLottery, and they are about to mail it off to the KCC these days, And I can not go back to Uzb. to renew my visa until a month from now, coz that's when the term will be over at my univ. - Do you think the fact that my parents mailed the application for DV-green card and it is being processed could somehow affect the renewal of my F1 visa?

thank you googler,

Elvie.



No, it does not.
Suppose you applied for DV lottery and you were lucky that you got 'first package' from KCC. If you fill all applications enclosed in the package and mail it to KCC and as soon as KCC starts processing ur case from this moment the Consulate will know that you have shown your immigrant intentions.

To be short you can apply for DV lottery every year and if you do not win, your application to DV lottery DOES not effect your nonimmigrant visa getting process.

But when you apply for nonimmigrant visa and if a concular officer asks about your previous application for DV lottery, don't lie and tell the truth. It does not effect your interview process.

[Elvie]

MDB,

so now that you know that I have been enrolled at school in the US for several years, you think I won't have problems with getting my visa renewed even though I participated for DVLottery?

Thanks,

Elvie.
rt, I am sorry about it and hope that your relative will be OK...I think ur visa interview will go smoothly...Just dont forget to get a new I-20 from ur adviser and to give an I-94 to immigration officer,don't keep it with u...Good luck Elvie and let us know how was everything.

Cheers.

[Elvie]

Originally Posted by Googler

And now I want to go back to Uzb. to renew my F1 visa as it expired this month.
I did not understand you quite well. F1 visa is issued covering all duration of your courses at educational institutes in USA. I guess you mean you've ended up your courses and plan a new course or degree, am I right?




Googler,

Actually no! I came to the US 2 years ago with an F1 visa for a 2 year college. But I managed to graduate in 1 year (instead of 2 years), and right after that I transferred to a 4 year University. So, since I transferred last year at that time my visa was fine. Now, it has expired this month. But I have a valid new I-20, and I want to go back to Uzb. to renew my visa because of certain circumstances!

Elvie.

[Auditor]

shunaqaligini bilardim o'zi

bu amerikoslar bekorga bir narsani chiqarmaydi

[Googler]

My question is what are you basing this on?

В публикациях одной из ведущих американских иммиграционных адвокатских компаний, [/URL]Siskind Susser Band, подчеркивается, что ни один из опрошенных адвокатов не сталкивался с проблемой отказа в выдаче виз за участие в лотерее. Да, тут приводится что, участие не повлияет, но если Вы выиграли, тогда этот факт может стать препятствием. Но я также читал статью, что пока не отправите первый пакет в КСС, не подтверждается ваши иммиграционные намерения. Если рассуждать по логике, пока вы не выиграли, можно получить другие визы, а если выиграете, значит в базу госдепа вас вносят как winner и это может стать препятствием, так что я мог ошибиться в том, что winners могут получить другие визы, если не отправят первый пакет в КСС.



Вот цитата адвокатской компании Siskind Susser Band: [URL="http://www.visalaw.com/"] (http://www.visalaw.com/)
Will applying for the lottery affect one's ability to receive a nonimmigrant visa?

Probably not. Technically, filing a visa lottery application is equivalent to filing an immigrant petition. According to a source at the Department of State, a consulate will only be notified IF the person is selected in the lottery. An individual who is not chosen is on his honor to state that he/she applied for the lottery. Theoretically, if your name is selected in the lottery, you may have trouble renewing nonimmigrant status while waiting for your name to be cleared for processing (see discussion on the post-selection process for securing a green card). This should only be a temporary problem since permanent residency should eventually be awarded. There is still a risk that you will fail to be deemed eligible for the DV-2007 visa or the Department of State will have overestimated the number of individuals to select in the lottery (see discussion on how the selection process works). However, of all the lawyers with whom I have spoken, none have ever reported a problem with a client having entered the lottery. We have instructed our clients to answer the question on the DS-156 concerning previous immigrant visa applications as follows: "My lawyer entered me in the DV-2007 lottery." We have never had a problem reported and I have yet to hear of anyone denied a visa because of a previous lottery application.

[melo]

В публикациях одной из ведущих американских иммиграционных адвокатских компаний, Siskind Susser Band, подчеркивается, что ни один из опрошенных адвокатов не сталкивался с проблемой отказа в выдаче виз за участие в лотерее. Да, тут приводится что, участие не повлияет, но если Вы выиграли, тогда этот факт может стать препятствием. Но я также читал статью, что пока не отправите первый пакет в КСС, не подтверждается ваши иммиграционные намерения. Если рассуждать по логике, пока вы не выиграли, можно получить другие визы, а если выиграете, значит в базу госдепа вас вносят как winner и это может стать препятствием, так что я мог ошибиться в том, что winners могут получить другие визы, если не отправят первый пакет в КСС.



Вот цитата адвокатской компании Siskind Susser Band:
Will applying for the lottery affect one's ability to receive a nonimmigrant visa?

Probably not. Technically, filing a visa lottery application is equivalent to filing an immigrant petition. According to a source at the Department of State, a consulate will only be notified IF the person is selected in the lottery. An individual who is not chosen is on his honor to state that he/she applied for the lottery. Theoretically, if your name is selected in the lottery, you may have trouble renewing nonimmigrant status while waiting for your name to be cleared for processing (see discussion on the post-selection process for securing a green card). This should only be a temporary problem since permanent residency should eventually be awarded. There is still a risk that you will fail to be deemed eligible for the DV-2007 visa or the Department of State will have overestimated the number of individuals to select in the lottery (see discussion on how the selection process works). However, of all the lawyers with whom I have spoken, none have ever reported a problem with a client having entered the lottery. We have instructed our clients to answer the question on the DS-156 concerning previous immigrant visa applications as follows: "My lawyer entered me in the DV-2007 lottery." We have never had a problem reported and I have yet to hear of anyone denied a visa because of a previous lottery application.

So this basically says when you tell them you entered into the DV lottery they will consider it as an intent to immigtate. Seriously, who in Uzbekistan is going to use the excuse that their lawyer entered them in the lottery? So basically it is saying it is best to not admit you entered into the lottery at all.

[MDB]

Elvie,as I understood from ur replies, u graduated from some kind of Community College in one year by transfering ur credits(evaluation from WES) and as far as I know ur visa was expired this spring, but u legally enrolling in four-year College...As u have received visa for 3 years and if completed ur associates degree in one year;now u are going to complete ur bachelor's degree,am I right?So, if it is right u can find a job take OPT and if u have potention employer offering u job u don't have to have visa to enter the country.Hopefully it will be helpful to u....

[Elvie]

No Jaguar Paw!

I heard about one case, when a guy being interviewed was asked "Whether he participated in DVLottery?" by a consular. He lied and said -"No"! Then the consular said that the data shows he did participated, and he got a rejected for his visa issuance. So I guess, even if you participated in DVLottery you should not lie.

Elvie

So this basically says when you tell them you entered into the DV lottery they will consider it as an intent to immigtate. Seriously, who in Uzbekistan is going to use the excuse that their lawyer entered them in the lottery? So basically it is saying it is best to not admit you entered into the lottery at all.

[Elvie]

MDB,

I will try to explain my situation better:

I managed to graduate from a 2-year Liberal Arts college in only 1 year! (because of the credits transferred from an Uzbek Univ.). So, since I was issued a visa for 2 years and I finished the college in 1 year, I still had one more year left!!!

So, then what I did is: I tranferred to a 4-year Univ. (and got a junior status). Now, it has been 1 year since I transferred and my visa has expired this year! (just this month)

But I am not graduating from a 4-year Univ. yet, coz I have one more year to go.
But before I start my senior year, I want to go to Uzb. to visit my family because we have emergency circumstances... and I absolutely need to be there!!! So, if I go - I will have to get my visa renewed as I won't be able to enter the US with an expired visa!
And I was wondering whether anyone knows abt. how these things work, coz I do not want to get rejected!
I am just a little bit concenred abt. the effect of my participation in DVLottery to the renewal of my F1 visa!

Elvie.



Elvie,as I understood from ur replies, u graduated from some kind of Community College in one year by transfering ur credits(evaluation from WES) and as far as I know ur visa was expired this spring, but u legally enrolling in four-year College...As u have received visa for 3 years and if completed ur associates degree in one year;now u are going to complete ur bachelor's degree,am I right?So, if it is right u can find a job take OPT and if u have potention employer offering u job u don't have to have visa to enter the country.Hopefully it will be helpful to u....

[Googler]

So this basically says when you tell them you entered into the DV lottery they will consider it as an intent to immigtate. Seriously, who in Uzbekistan is going to use the excuse that their lawyer entered them in the lottery? So basically it is saying it is best to not admit you entered into the lottery at all.

If you apply for DV lottery and then you apply for a temporary visa in clause 36 of DS-156 - Has Anyone Ever Filed an Immigrant Visa Petition on Your Behalf? - theoretically you can answer "yes" and write that you applied for DV lottery. It does not influence on your process.

A very few people know that State Department considers a registration in DV lottery as "immigrant petition". This is not mentioned in the law, this is interpretation (трактовка) only. It is not in the instructions for you as well.
And you should not have to know this. It would be logical, if you do not know this and do not suspect of this.

[Googler]

Googler,
Do you think the fact that my parents mailed the application for DV-green card and it is being processed could somehow affect the renewal of my F1 visa?
Elvie.
Unfortunately it might effect your renewal process.
But how old you're currently?

[Googler]

I am just a little bit concenred abt. the effect of my participation in DVLottery to the renewal of my F1 visa!
As I mentioned before if you applied for the lottery, you can still get your visa.

[Elvie]

Googler,

I am 21, was 21 when my parents were filling out the DV2008 Lottery. I was not included as a dependent! Moreover, I was and still am in the US for 2 years now.

They only received the 1st package of the Applications (DS-230, DS-122), and they didn't mail it yet!

Didn't you say in one of your previous posts that one would be considered to have an "Immigration Intent" only after the Applications are received and being processed at KCC?


Elvie



Unfortunately it might effect your renewal process.
But how old you're currently?

[Googler]

Googler,

I am 21, was 21 when my parents were filling out the DV2008 Lottery. I was not included as a dependent! Moreover, I was and still am in the US for 2 years now.

They only received the 1st package of the Applications (DS-230, DS-122), and they didn't mail it yet!

Didn't you say in one of your previous posts that one would be considered to have an "Immigration Intent" only after the Applications are received and being processed at KCC?


Elvie

Check your private mail.

[Пушкарева]

You should be absolutely fine getting the student visa. As long as you have a valid I-20 - you are eligible for the F-1.

Get all the relevant papers:

- a letter from the university's international students office confirming your valid SEVIS status,
- registrar letter confirming next semester enrollment, and
- financial documents equivalent to the tution amount (or the sholarship letter)

Your participation in the DV should not affect your visa eligibility. I have participated in the lottery too and applied for the student visa. Havign all the appropriate documents from my school, I got it with no problems.

I think you worry too much. Just get ALL the important papers and be confident and frank during the interview.

Good luck!

Originally Posted by Googler

And now I want to go back to Uzb. to renew my F1 visa as it expired this month.
I did not understand you quite well. F1 visa is issued covering all duration of your courses at educational institutes in USA. I guess you mean you've ended up your courses and plan a new course or degree, am I right?




Googler,

Actually no! I came to the US 2 years ago with an F1 visa for a 2 year college. But I managed to graduate in 1 year (instead of 2 years), and right after that I transferred to a 4 year University. So, since I transferred last year at that time my visa was fine. Now, it has expired this month. But I have a valid new I-20, and I want to go back to Uzb. to renew my visa because of certain circumstances!

Elvie.

[Elvie]

Thank you NeZaBudkA!

Your post made me more confident! Of course I was worried, because I got rejected once for F1 visa... since then I am trying to research as much as possible so that I don't get rejected again.


Elvie

You should be absolutely fine getting the student visa. As long as you have a valid I-20 - you are eligible for the F-1.

Get all the relevant papers:

- a letter from the university's international students office confirming your valid SEVIS status,
- registrar letter confirming next semester enrollment, and
- financial documents equivalent to the tution amount (or the sholarship letter)

Your participation in the DV should not affect your visa eligibility. I have participated in the lottery too and applied for the student visa. Havign all the appropriate documents from my school, I got it with no problems.

I think you worry too much. Just get ALL the important papers and be confident and frank during the interview.

Good luck!

[Пушкарева]

Don't worry. Make sure you have all the documents and you'll be ok.

Thank you NeZaBudkA!

Your post made me more confident! Of course I was worried, because I got rejected once for F1 visa... since then I am trying to research as much as possible so that I don't get rejected again.


Elvie

[Frida]

Do not worry about this! I am a good example :) I applied for DV lottery 2 or three times, did not win and within these years got my visa renewed twice. So no worries. It is a lottery and everybody can participate in it. They wont "punish" you for trying. Good luck with new visa, I am sure you'll get it. Just make sure to prep. all your supporting documents. Besides your travel documents, and I-20, just in case grab a verification of enrollment for Fall. Make sure to fill in DS-156, 157, 158 forms as soon as you get to Tashkent and call earlier to make an interview appointment. Right now embassy is packed, so they might have very few available slots, waiting time is 8 days, so if you lose one chance next interview will be in two weeks.

[melo]

Right now embassy is packed, so they might have very few available slots, waiting time is 8 days, so if you lose one chance next interview will be in two weeks.

Seriously? :shock: Is everyone from Uzbekistan trying to come to the US??? If you look atthe DV lottery statistics it seems that way too.

[Frida]

Seriously? :shock: Is everyone from Uzbekistan trying to come to the US??? If you look atthe DV lottery statistics it seems that way too.


The non-immigrant and immigrant visa interviews are scheduled for different days. So people who I saw and who were scheduled for the same day were those applying for non-immigrant visa. When I called only slots available were 2 weeks later, I had to make an expedited appointment. :) For the day I was scheduled almost 60 people were there. 30 in the morning and 30 in the afternoon. Next day only 8-10 people came to get their visas, mostly students and some important people. Also, american embassy is issuing any non-imigrant visa only for 1 year.

[melo]

The non-immigrant and immigrant visa interviews are scheduled for different days. So people who I saw and who were scheduled for the same day were those applying for non-immigrant visa. When I called only slots available were 2 weeks later, I had to make an expedited appointment. :) For the day I was scheduled almost 60 people were there. 30 in the morning and 30 in the afternoon. Next day only 8-10 people came to get their visas, mostly students and some important people. Also, american embassy is issuing any non-imigrant visa only for 1 year.

Important people? :D

[Frida]

Important people? :D

Yeah, Man in Black :D just some sort of a group who supposedly working on "foreign investment". Vice consul believed their: "we work with foreign investment and wear pointy shoes, expensive rings, and watches and some of us look way too cool and cheesy to work illigally in US". :) so all 4 of them got their visas.

[ULAUZ]

Salom men ham DV lottda qatnashganman,ozbekistondaligimda,lekin yutmaganman,bir qanchadan keyin US emb.ga interviewga kirdim va visani bez problem oldim yani J1,hotya oldin US ga harakat qilmaganman,a tak meni bilishimcha suhbatdan 1kun oldin yahshi dam oling hech narsani oylameng,boshizzi qotirmang,svejiy kallaga embassyga kiring.hammasi yahshi boladi.