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Tolibjon
05-18-2007, 03:51 AM
You are welcome, students

Dear Mr/Miss

I am a student from Uzbekistan, who applied for student visa to Uk embassy. I was accepted to the college in London for 6 months.
I applied for visa on 22 February, month before when my studies would start in the Uk , as it is said at the site.
After a month I didn't get results and when I contacted to visa section I was told that extra month also needed.
I was charged for accommodation cancellation according to the policy of the college.
After 2 months when I contacted to embassy, they said that they need 3rd month for visa proceed . I was charged again by college for accommodation.
3 months later on 16 May college informed me that I don't have accommodation, as I was charged for cancellation and sent me new invoice for accommodation.
17 May I was refused visa , because I didn't have accommodation in the UK.
Could you please give me advise in this case?
How long maximum will take to proceed documents in visa section?
Can I appeal in this case ?

Thanks in advance
With regards

Googler
05-18-2007, 05:31 AM
17 May was I refused visa , because I didn't have accommodation in the UK.

Did you get a paper from the Consulate reflecting your visa rejection because of accommodation?

I do not think the visa process dealt with accommodation.
I think your process included an administrative checking.

Have you ever visited UK before?

You have to start your visa application from the beginning, I'm afraid.

Tairs
05-19-2007, 01:34 AM
You are welcome, students

Dear Mr/Miss

I am a student from Uzbekistan, who applied for student visa to Uk embassy. I was accepted to the college in London for 6 months.
I applied for visa on 22 February, month before when my studies would start in the Uk , as it is said at the site.
After a month I didn't get results and when I contacted to visa section I was told that extra month also needed.
I was charged for accommodation cancellation according to the policy of the college.
After 2 months when I contacted to embassy, they said that they need 3rd month for visa proceed . I was charged again by college for accommodation.
3 months later on 16 May college informed me that I don't have accommodation, as I was charged for cancellation and sent me new invoice for accommodation.
17 May I was refused visa , because I didn't have accommodation in the UK.
Could you please give me advise in this case?
How long maximum will take to proceed documents in visa section?
Can I appeal in this case ?

Thanks in advance
With regards

Hi mate,
The thing is that it's not a good time for applying for a STUDENT visa right now. It's not only you who has been refused in this month. The ECO (JR) is refusing everyone who applied for a student visa. But I hope that the situation will change soon.

As for appealing against ECO's decision, yes you can do this. Because if you applied for 6 months course of study then you have allready received AIT-2 which gives you an opportunity to do so. But It may take up to 6 months if you decide to apply through the solicitor and up to 12 months - just yourself.

If there is any information you would like to have, just let me know.

Tolibjon
05-19-2007, 08:29 AM
I think I'm a first person who didn't understand why he was refused, even after reading refusal letter :D :( They didn't even give me right to appeal

Please check this out, who is for the justice.
and help to understand. It seems me that they gave me refuse cause really tried:D

Googler
05-19-2007, 12:31 PM
I think I'm a first person who didn't understand why he was refused, even after reading refusal letter :D :( They didn't even give me right to appeal

Please check this out, who is for the justice.
and help to understand. It seems me that they gave me refuse cause really tried:D

On the second page try to read again and again several times second and third paragraphs. The reason why u got a refusal is written with black in white.

Tairs
05-19-2007, 01:13 PM
2 Tolibjon

You don't have to read to understand why you have been refused. On friday there was a "conference" where some woman from BE tashkent was critisized for refusing all the student applicants in tashkent.As I said before it is not just you who has been refused an entry clearance this month.

Contact the embassy and tell them they forgot to give you AIT-2 form.

2 Googler
Second page is bull sh't. Even if you have already given them documents to prove these all they would have found a reason to refuse.

JAMINATOR
05-19-2007, 03:12 PM
Tairs You don't have to read to understand why you have been refused. On friday there was a "conference" where some woman from BE tashkent was critisized for refusing all the student applicants in tashkent.As I said before it is not just you who has been refused an entry clearance this month.


are you sure for that? Tairs
i am not:rolleyes:






2 Tolibjon



Contact the embassy and tell them they forgot to give you AIT-2 form.


thanks mate u gotta thanks for useful information
and tell some more information of this case:)



Tolibjon Mate you forgotten your rights: I think the college gotta Terms and conditions, (am i right?) if they (i mean Embassy) taking long period for visa case and you should contact to college and stop extend your home stay or accommodation ok
Now you missed notice the college about it, also they are (college) suppose to extend your accommodation and you could save your money and now don't tell this 17 May I was refused visa , because I didn't have accommodation in the UK it happen with your mistake i think... or i don't know what's happen and the most important is Balance of your support company or your account
then i just hang over to you some useful information which is you can try back your money from college and accommodation if you can't just drop to me your college phone i can call to them and find out all reasons. and if you still not back of refund might i can do what I can :) good luck just find out all reasons of your visa case 'couse of you/ you know what's happen don't blameif you aren't cached ::::
Uk embassy in tashkent. uzbeks also work in visa section and it reacts to it's jo i don't believe it might joke :)
and i think all colleges Terms and Conditions are very similar: so here TLSI just check out
English (General English course fees apply, prices vary with time and location).
43. If the sister college for whatever reason fails to deliver the course to the student, the
student will be offered General English classes at TLSI for the remainder of the course.
Refund Policy
44. No refunds will be made if the school's facilities are used to obtain one or more of
the following: (a) travel permits and/or visas, (b) Council Tax discounts, (c)
Transport for London Student Discounts.
45. No refunds will be made once the student’s course has started or if the student was
refused a visa on the basis of poor attendance or misconduct.
46. Please note that some of our courses are non-refundable. These are clearly marked
on our price lists. Therefore no refund can be claimed on such courses.
47. Students forfeit tuition fees if they are ill, absent or leave the course before the end
date.
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Terms and Conditions
48. No extension or refunds will be given if a student is excluded from class due to
their late arrival.
49. Once the course has started cancellations cannot be made and all fees are due.
50. Fees are not refundable or transferable to another student under any circumstances
without the written agreement of the Registrar.

52. The following table provides further information on refunds:
Circumstances Conditions Refund Due
Cancellation of course before
start date
Applications for refunds must
be received a minimum of
two weeks before the course
start date. The student must
send their original Letter of
Acceptance, a full copy of
their passport (copies must be
certified) & original receipts.
We must receive these
documents within 30 days of
receiving the refund request,
otherwise the student forfeits
their right to a refund.
Course length 4 weeks: fees
less Ј25 cancellation fee
Course length more than 4
weeks: fees less Ј90
cancellation fee
Refund of accommodation
fees
Applications for refunds of
accommodation must be
received a minimum of two
weeks in advance. If a visa
has been granted, no refund
on accommodation is payable
Accommodation fees less Ј49
administration fee
Refund due to refusal of
student visa
The student must send the
original Refusal Letter,
original Letter of Acceptance,
a full copy of their passport
(copies must be certified) and
receipts. We must receive
these documents within 30
days of receiving the refund
request otherwise the student
forfeits their right to a refund.
Course length 4 weeks: fees
less Ј25 cancellation fee
Course length more than 4
weeks: fees less Ј90
cancellation fee
53. If the fees were paid for by credit card, the refund will be made minus 3% from
the total amount paid. This is in addition to any cancellation fees that may apply.
54. Refunds can only be made to the person or organisation that originally made the
payment.
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Terms and Conditions
55. In the event that refunded money is lost/misplaced by the bank during the bank
transfer process, no further refund will be made until the bank has transferred the
original money back to TLSI.
56. Refunds are sent out 30 days after ALL required documents have been received.
57. For Gateway Courses, TLSI is not liable for the remaining course fees in the event
of non-delivery of the course by the sister college or student dissatisfaction with
the course. In the event of non-delivery, TLSI may refund the course
administration fees only.
58. Force Majeure: TLSI shall not be deemed in default of its obligations to the extent
that performance of its obligations or attempts to cure any breach are delayed,
restricted, or prevented by reason of any act of God or government, fire, natural
disaster, labour stoppage, insufficient demand for any classes, the failure of
necessary power systems or connections, or any other act or condition beyond the
reasonable control of the School, provided that TLSI uses its best efforts to avoid
or remove the causes of non-performance and continues performance immediately
after those causes are removed.
59. The decision of the Principal is final and binding on all matters, both for students
and teachers.
60. These Terms are governed by the law of England and are subject to the exclusive
jurisdiction of the Courts of England.
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IMPORTANT: Students renewing visas
Existing students in the UK who are renewing their visas, but choose not to use TLSI's
Immigration Visa Processing Service, are forfeiting their right in its entirety to a refund based on a
visa refusal.

hojiaka
05-19-2007, 04:01 PM
hehe qiziq ? Nega voqelik Buyuk Britaniyaga aloqador bolganligi uchun murojat qilayotgan shahslar Tolibjonda "Mate" shaklida murojat qilishi kerak ?... Boshqa mavzudagi threadlarda ham shu hol, mavzu qay yo'sinda bo'lsa odamlar o'sha holatga burkanib olishadi! Ain't it funny? Mate ? :):):)


On: Tolibjon, I do not think it was intended afford of the BE staff to reject your application. Although it is becoming their priority to reject more applicants from our part of the world. Ollohni har bir qilgan ishida ezgulik bor. Sizga osha safar vosa olish nasib qilmagan ekan. Kuyunmang. Collect your strength one more time and apply again but this time act two month upfront. During interview have your all previous paperwork with you. rejection letter, invitation, receipts for accomodation charge and so on. Tell consul what happened and see how it goes... It seems like you have good command of language ability so it should work out. appealing, fighting back, trying to show that they were wrong might cause unwanted troubles. Tarozini toshi ularda hozircha..... Good luck.

JAMINATOR
05-19-2007, 04:08 PM
hehe qiziq ? Nega voqelik Buyuk Britaniyaga aloqador bolganligi uchun murojat qilayotgan shahslar Tolibjonda "Mate" shaklida murojat qilishi kerak ?... Boshqa mavzudagi threadlarda ham shu hol, mavzu qay yo'sinda bo'lsa odamlar o'sha holatga burkanib olishadi! Ain't it funny? Mate ? :):):)
you think thats funny to say "dustim" or "jura" or "og'ayni" or "oshna" or "va boshqalar" , don't you?
:lol:
kutmagandim
sorry mate!!!

***agar mate deganda og'ir botsa to you

hojiaka
05-19-2007, 04:56 PM
"dustim" or "jura" or "og'ayni" or "oshna" or "va boshqalar" This is not funny no not at all,

Hi mate, -this is funny!.

C'mon now, be honest. Would you start your conversation saying "Hi mate" with fellow uzbek on this forum if he/she asked you about huge snakes in Congo or... uzbek food in Siberia? or any other topic excluding England?

Noting personal, just thinking out loud :)



***agar mate deganda og'ir botsa to you mana bu joyini esa tushunmadim???

Dr_Didro
05-19-2007, 08:54 PM
This is not funny no not at all,

Hi mate, -this is funny!.

C'mon now, be honest. Would you start your conversation saying "Hi mate" with fellow uzbek on this forum if he/she asked you about huge snakes in Congo or... uzbek food in Siberia? or any other topic excluding England?

Noting personal, just thinking out loud :)

***agar mate deganda og'ir botsa to you mana bu joyini esa tushunmadim???

good point brother.

Googler
05-20-2007, 01:37 AM
Second page is bull sh't. Even if you have already given them documents to prove these all they would have found a reason to refuse.

It's your personal subjective opinion only.

Last week a friend of mine got his student visa in Tashkent with no problem.
He submitted all appropriate docs and chose appropriate course that could be of benefit to his degree once he continues his studies coming back to Uzb.

When applying to any kind of visa think and submit all docs logically and you will get ur visa.

Tairs
05-20-2007, 02:02 AM
Well then, maybe you will share with us what document he submitted and got visa. Because I have talked with many agencies working in uzbekistan they are so tired of receiving GV51. Even TNT company's couriers are not coming and waiting for a tips for deliving your visa. They just gives you your docs and disappears. So you see what I'm talking about. Anyway, I'm not telling that people should be frighteden and stop applying visa. But be carefull brothers and sisters.

2 Jaminator
I have heard about it from the person who had been there. On monday, I'm gonna talk with her personaly. so if anything comes up I will let you know.

XXL
05-20-2007, 04:20 AM
I think I'm a first person who didn't understand why he was refused, even after reading refusal letter :D :( They didn't even give me right to appeal

Please check this out, who is for the justice.
and help to understand. It seems me that they gave me refuse cause really tried:D


Hi mate :P ..

ALL what they wrote is BULLSHIT, Ya prochital vsyo i toje nifiga ne ponyal

zachem otkazali


qani bu erda obosnovanniy prichina, shunaqa shunaqa sabalarga kora refusal

bosdim, :rolleyes: , viglyadit kak budto ne zahotel i ne dal visu, i esho ne dali prava na

appelyatsiyu, WTF :rolleyes: ,

Tairs
05-20-2007, 05:47 AM
to XXl





+1

Guardian
05-20-2007, 08:49 AM
Tolibjon,

Did you inculde a covering letter why you were taking that particular course and what benefit you could have from it? Was there any letter (letter of intent?) from your side, apart from application form?

Tairs
05-20-2007, 09:35 AM
As you might know Guardian, right now you have to feel the Questionare. It has special questions that describe why you choose particular course in the UK.

W.I.Z.A.R.D
05-20-2007, 10:14 AM
Buyuk Britaniya elchihonasidan olingan bir nechta otkaz qogozlarini kurganman.
Deyarli 95 foiz otkazlarning yozilishi yoki manosi huddi yuqorida kursatib utilganday bir hil.

Tolibjon
05-20-2007, 11:05 AM
Thanks all mates and oshnalar :P

I really appreciate all attention from you

You know, I worked for a Swiss Project and tthis is reason why I'm going to London. My purpose is to gain experiance and skills there and to use it here . I sent to embassy Recommendation letter also, from my boss (german) telling that I will continue my job after coming from Uk.
Concerning questionare , yes of course, i filled it and exactly explained what is useful for me from this course. I mean all they wrote is wrong.
I SENT ALL DOCUMENTS, EVEN MORE. I EXPLAINED THAT IT'S REALLY USEFULL FOR ME, SENT A PROOF FROM MY JOB THAT I WILL CONTINUE MY JOB AFTER COMING.
WHAT SEEMS TO ME UNJUSTICE THAT THEY DIDN'T CALL ME TO INTERVIEW IF THEY HAVE SUCH PSyHOLOGIC DOUBTS.
i THINK THE WORDS ABOUT THEIR INSIDE SYSTEM IS RIGHT.
OK, what can I do in this case?
can I call to embassy and ask to explain me refuse or ask interview with consule?

p.s. bezprichin prosta uzbekligim uchun otkaz bergani alam qilyapti holos.

Googler
05-20-2007, 11:54 AM
I worked for a Swiss Project and tthis is reason why I'm going to London. My purpose is to gain experiance and skills there and to use it here . I sent to embassy Recommendation letter also, from my boss (german) telling that I will continue my job after coming from Uk.

Are you involved in the project currently?
As I don't know what project is it and what course you chose in UK and what are relationships between them and logically is the course a continuation of the project, it's hard fo me to judge why you got the refusal. Your above-said purpose and recommendation are not enough for getting a student visa if the chosen course and the project you're involved in have no concern with each other.

If u would like feel free to send me pm detailing your project and a desired course, then I can tell you why your evidences and reasons were not enough to make a con. officer confident of issuing you a visa.


p.s. bezprichin prosta uzbekligim uchun otkaz bergani alam qilyapti holos.

You should not think so! You being a Uzbek is not a ground to refuse you. They have NO RIGHT to judge of race, sex and religion.

corsair
05-20-2007, 02:04 PM
hello maties! :-D
how its going?

guys, brit embassies around the world act like they are from the planet mars (i think they still think brits rule the world, busht).
i studied a year in britain and went back home after 3 years i was going to aplly for visa again. they have saction on their bloody application saying Have you ever been in the UK. I could ve just say yes but they needed the date and etc which i didnt remember, because i changed my passport (expired)...
i phoned them, no answer and sent them fax asking for info (freedom of information act, the embassy has to give me all info held on my name, they just must, its their own "law").
after 2 weeks i sent them fax again, nothing again!
i went there and handed the letter to one of them puppet-monkey-girls. no result...
i went to embassy with all kind of paperwork and their application form. I answered N/A to the question about my perv. visit to the Uk. visa officer asked me for an interview and his first question was How you feeling? i said- just great, fantastic (to see your sweating smelly fase). he said have you ever been in britain, i said i feel i never been there, he replyed we know that u have been there and u gave us wrong info, i said i changed my passport and i got no info about my perv. application and i asked you guys 3 times and got no reply what u want me to do...? u could ve ask me, i said i met u first time 2 minuts ago... he laughed and handed me the copy of my old application, i said kind of little late for it, its just like you guys say- too late too little... he laughed again.
i said so what we doing know, he said i have to refuse but it doesnt effect you future application, i said you must be joking, he laughed again. he asked me to leave the interview room and meet him at the window of the puppet show room. he came to window and stamped my passport twice and passed it me. i said two stamps, you are very generous, he laughed and said nobody spoke to me like u before, you are very brave... i said well dude, you guys made me angry, you dont follow your own rules. suddenly one of the puppets said please leave the embassy or... i said or what, u gonna stamp my passport 3rd time? go on then.
she didnt reply. i said i am done here i got things to do so see you later. sweatty guy said see you later, may be next time ...

JAMINATOR
05-20-2007, 03:19 PM
i checked that your refused letter from BE. i noticed here """"I have considered your application on its own merit but refused your visa application on this occasion because I am not satisfied, on the balance of probabilities, that you meet all of the requirements of section 57 of the Immigration Rules. This decision was made on the merits of this application. However, if you have a previous application and immigration history, this may have been considered.""" here you go for reason and why refused.
And no more discussions for us. I think theirs decision are clear as five finger.
Sorry mate. i know i am feeling. don't worry will be fine and all the best to you.


Off: good point brother. I haven't seen the point. :lool: :lool: :lool: qani nuqta man kurmayapman. ha anavi brother dan keyingi nuqtani ettingizmi "." :lool::lool::lool:

Hojiaka hech qanday hafagarchiliksiz-a meni tushunmabsiz yoki bilmadim buni Mate kizik yoki hech qanday hayron qolaydigan joyi yuq agar siz ham yillar davomida va uyga bormasdan yashasangiz o'rganib qolarkansiz ayniqsa Angliyaliklar bilan ishlasangiz yoki u erda uqisangiz. odatda urganib qovomiz nima qilish kerak? balkim siz ko'proq yashagandirsiz mendan ham bu sizga ayon lekin muhokamaga o'rin yuq deb uyliman
rahmat to'g'ri tushunasiz degan umiddaman.
***agar mate deganda og'ir botsa to you mana bu joyini esa tushunmadim???

Sizga shunaqa desa mate hafa yoki og'ir bulmasmikan deb uylabman uzr unda tushunmagan bulsangiz meni aybim emas hafagarchiliksiz.

Guardian
05-20-2007, 05:54 PM
Buyuk Britaniya elchihonasidan olingan bir nechta otkaz qogozlarini kurganman.
Deyarli 95 foiz otkazlarning yozilishi yoki manosi huddi yuqorida kursatib utilganday bir hil.
sababi 95 foiz ariza beruvchilar bir hil xatoga yul quyishadi. agentstvalar, yoinki o'rtadagilar shunga unchalik e'tibor berishmaydi.

to Tairs,

wouldn't it be of benefit to enclose a letter from the applicant briefly explaining the situation? it might give a rough idea to the visa officer that the applicant is at least "harakat qivotti".

Tairs
05-21-2007, 12:56 AM
2 Guardian,

People started doing this (writing enclosed letter-explaining why they are going to the UK) and since then ECO began asking for questionare from all other applicants. I mean from august lots of my friends write this kind of letter and they were awarded British visas at last, but then ECO decided that it was a good idea to add Part 3 and ask an explanation from other applicants.

PS: Agentstvadilar yoki tur firmadagilarni hammasiyam anoyimas. Ular chuntirib bergan holdayam konsul'stva bohona topadi. Ikki odam bir hil dokument bilan kirib bittasi visa olsa ikkinchisi olmi qoladi. Nimaga? Chunki konsul tirik jon! Uyam bizanikilani yahshilabgina bilib qogan. Kim qanaqa dokument qivotti qaysi o'qishga topshirvotti. Qattan ketvotti. shularga uyam etibor beradi.

Tolibjon
05-21-2007, 02:21 AM
2 Jaminator.

Aynan qorada yozgan so'zlarizni ma'nosi, bu prosta shuni hohladim degani, chunki nimaga asoslanim satisfied bo'maganligini yozmagan. Aylantirovirgan-aylantirovirgan. Masalan, all relevant documentsni topshirishing keregidi va bu haqida bilasan degan. Ha, bilaman. Savol: qaysi documentni topshirmabman?.
Men anavi section 57dagi rulelarni kamida 57 marta o'qib chiqqanman do i posle. Hech qanaqa nomutanosiblikni voobshe ko'rmayabman.
Oddiy narsa, masalan yozilgan, refuse olgandan keyin student yana refuse letterda yozilgan hatolarni to'g'irlab topshirsa visa oladi deb. Men yana topshirmoqchiman, nima to'g'irlashim kerak endi? balance of probabilities ni ko'tarishim keremi ? :)

My project based on improving students knowledge in "Operating and maintance of automatizated systems". My course is computer course, containnig Programming languages and Web design. These subjects also involved in our field.
I wrote in questionare that I will share all skills gained in Uk with students and teachers .
Thanks in advance

Tairs
05-21-2007, 05:24 AM
hello maties! :-D
how its going?

guys, brit embassies around the world act like they are from the planet mars (i think they still think brits rule the world, busht).
i studied a year in britain and went back home after 3 years i was going to aplly for visa again. they have saction on their bloody application saying Have you ever been in the UK. I could ve just say yes but they needed the date and etc which i didnt remember, because i changed my passport (expired)...
i phoned them, no answer and sent them fax asking for info (freedom of information act, the embassy has to give me all info held on my name, they just must, its their own "law").
after 2 weeks i sent them fax again, nothing again!
i went there and handed the letter to one of them puppet-monkey-girls. no result...
i went to embassy with all kind of paperwork and their application form. I answered N/A to the question about my perv. visit to the Uk. visa officer asked me for an interview and his first question was How you feeling? i said- just great, fantastic (to see your sweating smelly fase). he said have you ever been in britain, i said i feel i never been there, he replyed we know that u have been there and u gave us wrong info, i said i changed my passport and i got no info about my perv. application and i asked you guys 3 times and got no reply what u want me to do...? u could ve ask me, i said i met u first time 2 minuts ago... he laughed and handed me the copy of my old application, i said kind of little late for it, its just like you guys say- too late too little... he laughed again.
i said so what we doing know, he said i have to refuse but it doesnt effect you future application, i said you must be joking, he laughed again. he asked me to leave the interview room and meet him at the window of the puppet show room. he came to window and stamped my passport twice and passed it me. i said two stamps, you are very generous, he laughed and said nobody spoke to me like u before, you are very brave... i said well dude, you guys made me angry, you dont follow your own rules. suddenly one of the puppets said please leave the embassy or... i said or what, u gonna stamp my passport 3rd time? go on then.
she didnt reply. i said i am done here i got things to do so see you later. sweatty guy said see you later, may be next time ...

Gapingiz qo'vushmayapti negadir. Kimdir sizdan aniq kunlarni so'raganmidi yilini yozsangiz kifoya edi. Chunki siz yolg'on gapirmapsizu, tan ovos borganman deb. Posol'stvadilaga hat yozgandan ko'ra o'zizi o'qishizdan so'rasez bo'lardi, yoki boshqa siz bilan turgan bolladan, bank statementlarizdan hullas yo'li ko'p edi. Yoki bo'lmasam, posol'stvaga nimaga ketvomman deb topshirganingiz va qancha muddatga so'raganingiz esizdan chiqib adashmaslik uchun shunaqa qigandursiz. Ja bo'masa usha joyini qalamda yozsez bo'lardi.

Meni chunishimcha, bu voqea 2005 yilda bo'gan va siz bilan gaplashgan inson Mr Lynch bo'ladi (baland bo'yli, oq tanli, sochini orqaga taragan, baqvat kishi) yoki Mr Wilson (qora tanli, kal). Nima bo'sayam ular juda zo'r insonlar edi. Qanidi hoziram shunaqa insonlar bo'sa embassyda. Suhbatizzi o'qib chundimki, ozgina qo'pol bo'gansiz. To'ri u yerda ishlaydigan yosh o'zbek qizla sal borziyro va shu narsaga majbur etadi lekin yahshi gapirsez chunishardi. Kirvotganizzi o'zida nastroy bilan kirgan ko'rinas hozir urishaman deb. Silar hammangizlar bizani o'zbek embassydagilarni chet elliklarga qiladigan muomalasini ko'ringlar. Umuman odam o'rnida ko'rishmidi chet elliklarni.

JAMINATOR
05-21-2007, 12:09 PM
2 Jaminator.

Aynan qorada yozgan so'zlarizni ma'nosi, bu prosta shuni hohladim degani, chunki nimaga asoslanim satisfied bo'maganligini yozmagan. Aylantirovirgan-aylantirovirgan. Masalan, all relevant documentsni topshirishing keregidi va bu haqida bilasan degan. Ha, bilaman. Savol: qaysi documentni topshirmabman?.
Men anavi section 57dagi rulelarni kamida 57 marta o'qib chiqqanman do i posle. Hech qanaqa nomutanosiblikni voobshe ko'rmayabman.
Oddiy narsa, masalan yozilgan, refuse olgandan keyin student yana refuse letterda yozilgan hatolarni to'g'irlab topshirsa visa oladi deb. Men yana topshirmoqchiman, nima to'g'irlashim kerak endi? balance of probabilities ni ko'tarishim keremi ? :)

My project based on improving students knowledge in "Operating and maintance of automatizated systems". My course is computer course, containnig Programming languages and Web design. These subjects also involved in our field.
I wrote in questionare that I will share all skills gained in Uk with students and teachers .
Thanks in advance


Utta aniq qilib ushani kursatganmi balance of probabilities
Juda muhim hisoblana englandning iqtisodini bir ustuni usha siz tulagan va sizu bizga uxshab tulagan studentlar qanchalik pul olib kelishini bilasmi (agar bu erda ishlab davlatga kancha tax tulayotgan studentlarchi ) bular hammasi pul englandning daromadi. ushanga sizga anik qilib kursatab bergan mening fikrimcha. endi siz yana bitta korxona topasmi yoki sponsor topishingiz kerakki usha sponsor sizga polnostnyu buyniga olsin sponsorlik qilishni yoki shartnoma asosida kilasmi ishga olamiz kaytib kelsa bizda ishliydi deb degan gapi kerak ularga agar siz ushani kilsez olasiz chunki ulega usha
chunki bu erda boshqa pricha yuk agar hammasini tayyor qilib borsez olasiz degan umiddaman va sizga omad tilayman

P.S. mana jiyanimni dusti kecha viza oldi hech qanday qiyinchiliksiz jiyanim ham yaqinda kelgandi uzi hech kanaka kiyinchilik yuk har yilgi dardi shu yoz kelursa otkaz berishi boshlidi yoki visa berishi boshlidi

ON: yordam kere bulsa bemalol tortinmeng

corsair
05-21-2007, 01:22 PM
Gapingiz qo'vushmayapti negadir. Kimdir sizdan aniq kunlarni so'raganmidi yilini yozsangiz kifoya edi. Chunki siz yolg'on gapirmapsizu, tan ovos borganman deb. Posol'stvadilaga hat yozgandan ko'ra o'zizi o'qishizdan so'rasez bo'lardi, yoki boshqa siz bilan turgan bolladan, bank statementlarizdan hullas yo'li ko'p edi. Yoki bo'lmasam, posol'stvaga nimaga ketvomman deb topshirganingiz va qancha muddatga so'raganingiz esizdan chiqib adashmaslik uchun shunaqa qigandursiz. Ja bo'masa usha joyini qalamda yozsez bo'lardi.

Meni chunishimcha, bu voqea 2005 yilda bo'gan va siz bilan gaplashgan inson Mr Lynch bo'ladi (baland bo'yli, oq tanli, sochini orqaga taragan, baqvat kishi) yoki Mr Wilson (qora tanli, kal). Nima bo'sayam ular juda zo'r insonlar edi. Qanidi hoziram shunaqa insonlar bo'sa embassyda. Suhbatizzi o'qib chundimki, ozgina qo'pol bo'gansiz. To'ri u yerda ishlaydigan yosh o'zbek qizla sal borziyro va shu narsaga majbur etadi lekin yahshi gapirsez chunishardi. Kirvotganizzi o'zida nastroy bilan kirgan ko'rinas hozir urishaman deb. Silar hammangizlar bizani o'zbek embassydagilarni chet elliklarga qiladigan muomalasini ko'ringlar. Umuman odam o'rnida ko'rishmidi chet elliklarni.

hello mate :-D
olti oyga olganman visani, lekin 1 oy kech uchib ketganim esimda...
bank statement? i didnt even have bank account...i didnt need it...
Man Hostelda single roomda turganman, shuning uchun hech kim bilan birga turmaganman... they didnt reply for my emails...
Qalam bilan application formni tuldirush mumkin emas! qora siyohli ruchka bilan tuldirilsin deb yozib quygan joyi bor edi...

and about puppets, man ular bilan har kim bilan qanday gaplashigan bulsam shunday gaplashganman... ular odam bilan gaplasha yotganda boshini stoldana kutara olmaydigan bulib qolishgan edi... uzbekiston grajdanliklari eslaridan chiqib qolgan...

i think it was in 2003...

now i ve got EU permanent residence, who is the Daddy now? :-)
and thanks ALLAH i dont need to see them fases again...

PS: freedom of information act says that they have to give me all info they hold on my name! they didnt!

Tairs
05-21-2007, 01:57 PM
now i ve got EU permanent residence, who is the Daddy now? :-)
and thanks ALLAH i dont need to see them fases again...


:P :D :P :D :lol:

2003 yil eeeh qando paytlar edi. Mani qancha tanishlarim usha yili kirib visa ogan. Engliz tili umuman nol edi hammasini pochti. Schetda 1000 dollar bo'sa kifoya va o'qishni otini so'rirdi ulgursa ushaniyam. u payt gruppala bilan kirib nechta bro and sis la ketvorgan. Hudoga shukur dib tugati, yana noshukurchili bo'masin.

LunatiK
05-22-2007, 07:30 AM
I am a student from Uzbekistan, who applied for student visa to Uk embassy. I was accepted to the college in London for 6 months.

Are you sure about that? Because in the so called refusal letter it says "You have applied as a student to study English in the United Kingdon for 6 weeks".

Do you know that the college you were planning to study registered in DfES (http://www.dfes.gov.uk/providersregister/) ("Department of Education and Skills' register of Education and Training")

Tolibjon
05-22-2007, 08:46 AM
2 Lunatik

that's also their mistake, but very tiny if we look to meaning of this letter.:D
DFES- yes of course , it was registered.

Tairs
05-22-2007, 11:57 AM
2 Lunatik

that's also their mistake, but very tiny if we look to meaning of this letter.:D
DFES- yes of course , it was registered.

You are not the only one refused by the mistake of clearance officer. A friend of mine was refused and in his GV51 consul wrote "You have applied for 4 weeks". But my friend was accepted on a 5 months course of study. So, you see guys, they are so busy writing refusal letters that they don't pay attention to these mistakes.

Maroon
05-22-2007, 12:16 PM
hello mate :-D
olti oyga olganman visani, lekin 1 oy kech uchib ketganim esimda...
bank statement? i didnt even have bank account...i didnt need it...
Man Hostelda single roomda turganman, shuning uchun hech kim bilan birga turmaganman... they didnt reply for my emails...
Qalam bilan application formni tuldirush mumkin emas! qora siyohli ruchka bilan tuldirilsin deb yozib quygan joyi bor edi...

and about puppets, man ular bilan har kim bilan qanday gaplashigan bulsam shunday gaplashganman... ular odam bilan gaplasha yotganda boshini stoldana kutara olmaydigan bulib qolishgan edi... uzbekiston grajdanliklari eslaridan chiqib qolgan...

i think it was in 2003...

now i ve got EU permanent residence, who is the Daddy now? :-)
and thanks ALLAH i dont need to see them fases again...

PS: freedom of information act says that they have to give me all info they hold on my name! they didnt!

But u still need a Visa to the UK. ;)

corsair
05-22-2007, 12:56 PM
But u still need a Visa to the UK. ;)
nope!
Latvian non-citizen passport...:D

Tolibjon
05-23-2007, 10:49 AM
Today I called them
guess what did they say?
refuses "ne podlejit k diskussiyu s konsulom i ne s kem drugim"
advised me to apply again, i shto ya pomenyayu v application
opyat otpravlyu i budu nadeyetsya ne popast v tot mesyats kada refuse system rabotaet :lol: bullshit 100%

Googler
05-23-2007, 10:58 AM
Today I called them
guess what did they say?
refuses "ne podlejit k diskussiyu s konsulom i ne s kem drugim"
advised me to apply again, i shto ya pomenyayu v application
opyat otpravlyu i budu nadeyetsya ne popast v tot mesyats kada refuse system rabotaet :lol: bullshit 100%

I would recommend you to wait some time before reapplying for a visa.

Ideally it should be when you're able to gather more evidences that could assure the Consular officer to issue you a visa.

Tairs
05-23-2007, 12:21 PM
Today I called them
guess what did they say?
refuses "ne podlejit k diskussiyu s konsulom i ne s kem drugim"
advised me to apply again, i shto ya pomenyayu v application
opyat otpravlyu i budu nadeyetsya ne popast v tot mesyats kada refuse system rabotaet :lol: bullshit 100%

Mani tanishim qisa shunaqa dipti bitta qiz. Endi nimayam maslahat bersam ekan. Agar sabr qilishni mo'ljallasez unda kuting, agar topshiradigan bo'sangiz unda topshirin. Nima qilganingizdan qat'iy nazar Allohga tavakkal qilas.

Asskicker
05-24-2007, 06:53 AM
Today I called them
guess what did they say?
refuses "ne podlejit k diskussiyu s konsulom i ne s kem drugim"
advised me to apply again, i shto ya pomenyayu v application
opyat otpravlyu i budu nadeyetsya ne popast v tot mesyats kada refuse system rabotaet :lol: bullshit 100%

To Tolibjon:
kogda ya podaval na vizu u menya bilo vse yasno pokazano zachem i pochemu mne nujni kursi angliyskogo yazika. ya uje rabotal v odnom ochenb izvestnom SP, i ukazal reasons zachem mne yazik nujen-shtobi prodvinutsya po karyernoy lstnice v takoy-to department (gde angliyskiy pozarez nujen;) ). samoe smeshnoe bilo kogda prejde chem dat mne vizu, sotrudnik posolstva sprosil u menya zachem mne yazikovie kursi esli ya razgovarival s nim "pochti-fluent":D . i tut ya nagovoril emu shto gotovlus k MBA. (snoska: ya poluchal vizu v Kazahstane v proshlom godu).
v otkaze tebe:kak kto to uje upominal,na 2-y stranice napisano,shto konsul bil neudovletvoren :? tem shto tvoy vibor kursa natalkivaet na misl o tom shto ti edesh tuda (t.e. suda) dlya togo shtobi denushki zarabotat a ne uchica. im po vsey vidimosti ne nravilas tvoya uchebnaya istoriya:(primer) shkola->Narxoz (da i luboy drugoy)Econom fakultet->nigde ne rabotal->kursi IT. ya v dokazatelstvo togo shto mne nujno uchit angl. imenno v UK pokazal eshe sertifikati kursov angl. yazika,TOEFL,IELTS i t.p.

poetomu podumay kak pokazat posolstvu vesomie dokazatelstva tvoey poezdki suda.
kstati ti 1987 goda-znachit tebe 20 let. poxodi na kursi IT ili yazika,sdelay sertificati, pouchi yazik (potomu kak tashkentskogo FLUENT angl. ne xvatit
na poxojee na FLUENT obshenie zdes.
Udachi. esli est voprosi napishi v lichku,pomogu chem mogu.

Maroon
05-24-2007, 05:15 PM
nope!
Latvian non-citizen passport...:D

As from 19 January 2007, Latvian non-citizens are exempted from visa requirement when travelling to Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Denmark, France, Greece, Estonia, Italy, Cyprus, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovenia, Slovakia, Spain, Finland, Hungary, Germany and Sweden. Latvian non-citizens can also travel without visas to Iceland.

The Ruling is not applicable for the United Kingdom and Ireland.

;)

http://www.am.gov.lv/en/news/press-releases/2007/march/02-5/

corsair
05-25-2007, 01:38 PM
;)

http://www.am.gov.lv/en/news/press-releases/2007/march/02-5/

there is a BUT :lol: i dont have to go and apply for the UKe visa to tash ;)
he-he-he

Maroon
05-25-2007, 04:36 PM
there is a BUT :lol: i dont have to go and apply for the UKe visa to tash ;)
he-he-he

Yes. But I am sure they have info on you. ;)

Lolahon
05-25-2007, 05:30 PM
Yes. But I am sure they have info on you. ;)

sorry for interfering, if corsair waits a couple of years to become a citizen of Spain (unless he is married to a Spanish citizen, he has only to be a resident for one year in Spain before applying for naturalisation) and the whole Europe will be open to him. And all the hussle of visa interviews, work permits, will vanish. So he is in half way not see those consuls forever in Europe.

Maroon
05-25-2007, 05:37 PM
sorry for interfering, if corsair waits a couple of years (unless he is married to a Spanish citizen) he has to be a resident for one year in Spain before applying for naturalisation and the whole Europe will be open to him. And all the hussle of visa interviews, work permits, will vanish. So he is in half way not see those consuls forever in Europe.

If he is a resident in Spain for example, he will still need a Visa to the UK.

Lolahon
05-25-2007, 05:52 PM
If he is a resident in Spain for example, he will still need a Visa to the UK.

Absolutely. The interesting thing it was not like that before London bombings on July 7, 2005. The spouses of the EU citizens, who are non EU citizens, who hold a permenant residence could travel, live and work there like the EU citizens. It is called mirror rights.

They changed the law after that accident. It is always ordinary civilians who suffer from these types of incidents, which make the life complicated.

corsair
05-28-2007, 09:22 AM
Yes. But I am sure they have info on you. ;)

i know they do...:cool:
they gave me a visa, they didnt like me, visa officer said that there is an ALERT on my name... :P

ya v etoy osenyu hochu poehat i projit v ispanii... godik, poltora...
nado uje reshat...

muhammad_alam
05-31-2007, 03:57 PM
Absolutely. The interesting thing it was not like that before London bombings on July 7, 2005. The spouses of the EU citizens, who are non EU citizens, who hold a permenant residence could travel, live and work there like the EU citizens. It is called mirror rights.

They changed the law after that accident. It is always ordinary civilians who suffer from these types of incidents, which make the life complicated.

Lolahon,

they never changed it. It was ALWAYS so since 2001 or 2002. So, even before the 07/07 bombings, a lot of uzbek guys or girls who had the EU residentship/spouses, had to obtain the permit to enter. Although it was quite easy.

So, please DO NOT misinform the others.