Beauty of hijab

[Guess]

"Inspired" by "Uzbek girls pictures" thread (glamour, o'zinga olma :D)

[doniyork]

http://www.tesettur.biz/images/hasema_mayo8.jpg http://www.tesettur.biz/images/hasema_mayo10.jpg

real beauty.

[W.I.Z.A.R.D]

Bu hijobmi yoki make-up surtib uzini hamda rumollarni reklama qilishmi ?:)

[black_cat]

Bu hijobmi yoki make-up surtib uzini hamda rumollarni reklama qilishmi ?:)

boshidaki hijob, dont care about the rest;)

[W.I.Z.A.R.D]

Mожна ли мусульманам фотографироватся?

[black_cat]

oh my God, why do u care, this is business, just like trying to sell skirts or hats! Besides they dont have to be muslim, the whole point is to make it look nice, one of them is Melda Bekcan, a turkish actress:)

[bacha]

oh my God, why do u care, this is business, just like trying to sell skirts or hats! Besides they dont have to be muslim, the whole point is to make it look nice, one of them is Melda Bekcan, a turkish actress:)
Oh, is she Melda Bekcan? In hijab she looks so much more beautiful.

[Maroon]

Guess, kogda budesh sama nachnesh?

Great pics and gorgeous women.

[Inspiredmind]

...stunning beauty... juda chiroyli,, hamma kizlarni yuzidan NUR yog'ilib turibdi...Guess honim ham shular katorida kirsa kerak i suggest....

[Vezunchik]

99 yilda Parijda Chanel magazinida bir turk ili evropalik bir bizness style Hijobli ayolni ochki tanlavotganini ko`rgandim. Shunaqangi stilni, chiroyli i elegantni` bo`lib ko`ringandi ko`zimga. O`sha o`sha uverenman, ham hijob kiyib, ham elegantni`y , ham iboli -iffatli ko`rinish mumkin!!!

ON:

5115 dagi qiz Turkka o`hshaydi, qolganlari evropalikka o`hshaydi (hotya hammasi turk), bitta shu qizda aziatskiy ko`zlar. qolganlarida bolgar, serblarni ko`zi.

[Delf]

Девушки красивые, бесспорно.

Только вот я боюсь завтра Ville откроет топик с названием: Beauty of Mini-Skirt и выложит соответствующие фотографии :D


Delf.

[yuhakseng]

Гэсс мода журналларидан эмас, хаётдаги расмлардан купрок куйинг.
Давом этинг расмларни куйишда.:)

[doniyork]

Гэсс мода журналларидан эмас, хаётдаги расмлардан купрок куйинг.
Давом этинг расмларни куйишда.:)

Hayotta haqiqiy muslima hijobli ayol bekordan bekorga rasmga tushmidi

[real_life]

assalamu alaykum,
suratlarda hijob shartlariga mos keladigan birorta kiyim kormadim...
p.s. it's very sad that many ppl represent some modern coverings as hijab, but in fact it's just a lie about hijab

[JoJ]

Ya poka nikakogo respecta ne zaslujila :(

esho kak zaslujila...fotki prosto super...do etogo dumal, shto pust moya jena sama vibiret covered ili necovered, no posle etih fotografii, ya predpochitayu shto bi ona bila covered....:D

[Abu-Bakr]

Hijob o'zi begona erkaklardan avratini to'sish va o'zini himoya qilish uchun kiyiladi, tem bolee bunaqa chiroyli ayollarga.
A bunaqa hijobla yanayam o'ziga attract qiladi. Rashk qilgan haqiqiy erkak ayolini shunday ahvolda ko'chaga chiqarib yubormaydi

[oops_Shirin]

Hijob o'zi begona erkaklardan avratini to'sish va o'zini himoya qilish uchun kiyiladi, tem bolee bunaqa chiroyli ayollarga.
A bunaqa hijobla yanayam o'ziga attract qiladi. Rashk qilgan haqiqiy erkak ayolini shunday ahvolda ko'chaga chiqarib yubormaydi

:rolleyes: chet ya nigde ne chitala chtob nadev hijab nujno bit pohojoy na jugishek:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Odevatsa krasivo, uhajivat za saboy eto Sunna:rolleyes: Wallahu Alim.

[oops_Shirin]

She is beautiful :love:

[Abu-Bakr]

:rolleyes: chet ya nigde ne chitala chtob nadev hijab nujno bit pohojoy na jugishek:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Odevatsa krasivo, uhajivat za saboy eto Sunna:rolleyes: Wallahu Alim.

Hijab dlya togo chtob ne privlekat vnimanie, a ne dlya togo chtob pokazyvat' modu. Musul'manka ne doljna privlekat lishnee vnimanie. A nadeev iz etix, ona stanovitsya obsujdeniem... kak v dannom sluchae.

Jal', chto lyudi ne ponimayut suti hijaba, i nazyvayut etim imenem vse, chto popalo.

[black_cat]

then actually there is no need for hijab dear Emarat, because people today dont get any attention because they are not covered, however even in uzbekistan or turkey u get more attention because u are COVERED. So if u wanna see the whole point, then there is no need for hijab. For me hijab is only type of style. I have seen girls who look really sexy with hijab and girls who look quite normal or even boyish without hijab.

[Abu-Bakr]

then actually there is no need for hijab dear Emarat, because people today dont get any attention because they are not covered, however even in uzbekistan or turkey u get more attention because u are COVERED. So if u wanna see the whole point, then there is no need for hijab. For me hijab is only type of style. I have seen girls who look really sexy with hijab and girls who look quite normal or even boyish without hijab.

We don't take it as example to wear hijab how people give attention to it or how it's accepted in UZB, TR wheresoever or what's latest hijab fashion. In the Qur'an it's mentioned that women should draw their veils over their bosoms/breasts [sura an-noor, 31] It's Allah's command and if you bare witness that you're muslim you're obliged to follow what Allah says.

[black_cat]

"Hijab dlya togo chtob ne privlekat vnimanie, a ne dlya togo chtob pokazyvat' modu. Musul'manka ne doljna privlekat lishnee vnimanie. "

U SAID IT YOURSELF..u STARTED TO TALK ABOUT ATTENTION AND I JUST COMMENTED IT. U KNOW WHAT ? U RIGHT IT IS REALLY TO KEEP AWAY FROM ATTENTION , BUT TODAY IT GIVES MORE ATTENTION THAN EVER

[Professor]

Salamun alaykum,

Mani fikrim shu: Bu suratdagilarni tanimayman, shuning uchun ular hijoblarni markasini va brend'ini reklama qilishayapti holos. Mumkin usha hijob sotadigan dukon egasi va suratkash hijob odobidan uzoqda bulishi mumkin, va bu qizlar ham muslima bulib islomiy hayotdan uzoqda bulishi mumkin yoki umuman muslima ham bulmasligi mumkin. Ushani uchun buni kurib 100% hijob shunday taqiladi deyish notugri, buning uchun www.muzlimat.uz (http://www.muzlimat.uz) yoki shunga uhshash boshqa islomiy saytlardan bojilarimiz murojat qilsinlar.
Kiyimlarning beldan pastki qismi kaltalashib qolgan, yani kostyumlar ancha kalta, aslida ular uzun bulishi kerak va tizzagacha yoki tizzadan bir oz baland bulishi kerak. Mana pastadagi ushbu suratda kaltalashib qolgan, va kiyimlar ham kup suratlarda juda ham tor. Yani emarat birodarimiz aytgandek, hijobli qizlarning hijob/islomiy kiyib kiyishidan maqsad ham kuzga tashlanmaslik, kuzga tashlanmaslik deganda erkaklarni shahvatini quzgatadigan qismlarni yopib yurishdir. Yana Ollohu Alam.

P.S. Bazan qishda yoki yozda muslima bulmagan ayollar ham moda sifatida rumolni boshiga tashlab buyniga qistirib quyadi, suratdagilar ham shularga uhshab qolgan.
http://forumzirvesi.com/tst/tekbir_giyim1.jpg

[infolife]

Why do u care?

because these pictures give the wrong image of muslim woman:(

can you find some pics of Saudi women, the ones with the face covered as well, and put them up here :D

[Lady_G]

Bunga o'hshagan mavzu bor uzhe ;)because these pictures give the wrong image of muslim woman:(

can you find some pics of Saudi women, the ones with the face covered as well, and put them up here :Dmanbulani ko'r unda :D :
http://forum.arbuz.com/showthread.php?t=30720

[Lady_G]

She is beautiful :love:oosyxon kelinni belidegi qizil lenta nima bildiradi?

[Iqra]

http://www.tesettur.biz/images/hasema_mayo8.jpg http://www.tesettur.biz/images/hasema_mayo10.jpg

[SIZE="1"]Assalamu alaikum wr wb.... no ofence to anyone but I'm absolutelly shocked by some of the pictures... Are these swimming costumes for muslim girls? Would any decent girl who respects herself jump into the swimming pool infront of man wearing these things and think it is ok as long as she is covered? Islam is not only about wearing a headscarf, it is also about modesty and not attracting men to herself...

If one really wants to swim there are plenty of resorts created for muslim females, where they can enjoy swimming in halal way.

I personally think even non-muslims would laugh if they saw muslims swimming in these costumes...
Please dear Guess do not take it personally it's just my opinion on that matter that i wished to express...;)

Assalamu alaikum wr wb...

[Lady_G]

[size="1"]Assalamu alaikum wr wb.... no ofence to anyone but I'm absolutelly shocked by some of the pictures... Are these swimming costumes for muslim girls? Would any decent girl who respects herself jump into the swimming pool infront of man wearing these things and think it is ok as long as she is covered? Islam is not only about wearing a headscarf, it is also about modesty and not attracting men to herself...

If one really wants to swim there are plenty of resorts created for muslim females, where they can enjoy swimming in halal way.

I personally think even non-muslims would laugh if they saw muslims swimming in these costumes...
Please dear Guess do not take it personally it's just my opinion on that matter that i wished to express...;)

Assalamu alaikum wr wb...hou la la! Iqra xonim bormisiz?? :D

[Iqra]

hou la la! Iqra xonim bormisiz?? :D

Ya i tam i tut ...:) running around very busy... unfortunatlly not much time to visit the forum...but feels nice to be back:)

[oops_Shirin]

oosyxon kelinni belidegi qizil lenta nima bildiradi?

voy es chestno sama ne znayu:P kakaya to Turetskaya traditciya chtoli:lol:

kogo ya viju:P Iqrahon kiribtilami:lol: Hush Kelibsiz:P

[Vezunchik]

Yigitla jaaaa unaqa strogi bo`lmanglar. Oldin shunaqalariga bo`lsa ham rozilik berish kerak, oldin hamma qizlani ongini o`rgatish kerak, keyin sal strogiyroq, bolee Qoidaga mosroqlariga o`rgatiladi.

Birdaniga Press qilish kerak emas. 3-4 yil Hammasiga erishsa bo`ladi.

[Iqra]

voy es chestno sama ne znayu:P kakaya to Turetskaya traditciya chtoli:lol:

kogo ya viju:P Iqrahon kiribtilami:lol: Hush Kelibsiz:P
Esli budesh za Maryamkoy smotret eshe chashe budu zahodit';) ;)

[Пушкарева]

Agree with some. The models' looks and postures can excite men more than pictures of a normal uncovered girl. Here comes a wonder about the whole idea of hidjab. Just a piece of personal thought.

But all the women are gorgeous.

[infolife]

Bunga o'hshagan mavzu bor uzhe ;)
bor emas,bunga ohshash mavzu tiqilib yotibdi uje



manbulani ko'r unda :D :
http://forum.arbuz.com/showthread.php?t=30720
wey dahshat,LOL saudiylikla ulani cho'lida qob ketibdiyu:D

[Abu-Bakr]

Shu postlani ko'rib biram hursand bo'p kettimeey...... :) :P mashaallah, oxirgacha shunaqa bo'sin :)


Bir narsani tushunmayapman,
To'grisini aytinglar qizlar, Bu hijobni 1-2 marta kiyish uchun olasizlarmi yoki har kun kiyishiz bo'yinlarizdagi farz ekanligini tushunibmi?

hudo hohlasa - farz qilib, har kuni kiyishga


1) Clothing must cover the entire body, with the exception of the face and the hands.
2) The attire should not be form fitting, sheer or so eye-catching as to attract undue attention or reveal the shape of the body.
3) The clothing cannot be similar to male clothing or to the distinctive clo thing worn by people of other faiths.
4) Clothing must not suggest fame or status.

So those Dresses given my Leylochka are failing. :(

[dorahon]

Leylochka,manimcha ayrimlari juda chiroyli,bodyshapeni ham kursatvotgani yuq-ku, i mean,tor bulib,ozginda ozgin buladi,semizda semiz,baribir hijob kiysa,bilinadi-ku,ayol semizmi-ozginmi.man ham juda hijob kiyishni orzu qilaman,lekin hali u darajada emasman,shekilli,chunki yurakdan kiyish kerak,a ne kto to skazal,.Rahmat sizga kattakon.Juma namozlariga masjidaga borganimizda,kupchilik ayoollarda,qizlarda,shunaqa kiyimlar,jeans kiyib ustidan tunica kiyishadi,manga yoqadi. Lebanonlarning traditional kiymi ham chiroyli.

[Joha]

Could not find a single picture of a HIJAB.

[Nafees]

Nima qilibdi agar rasmdagi qizlar musulmon bo'lmasa, yoki ko'rinishi "jalb qiluvchi" bo'lsa? axir bu marketingku. qolaversa, kiyimni qanday kiyilishi, ro'molni qanday o'ralishi haqida informaciya ham kerakku.

ko'pincha ko'chada tor shim, va tizzagacha ham uzun bo'lmagan kamiz kiygan, lekin hijob o'ragan arab qizlarni ko'rib qolaman(pokistonlik yo boshqa millat musulmonlar emas, arablar shunaqa modaga, o'zini ko'rsatishga o'chroq). mangamas ularni muhokama qilish, lekin maqsadni tushunmiman to'g'risi. Iqra aytganlariday bunaqa tomoshani ko'rib musulmon bo'lmaganlar ham hayron qoladi.

lekin bir safar chang'i uchish uchun mo'ljallangan sport kiyimidagi hijobli ayollarni ko'rgandim. ahir uzun etak bilan chang'i uchib bo'lmasa... shu yerda dilemma hosil bo'ladi. buni musulmon erkagi qanaqa kiyinishi kerak, degan mavzuda ham yozgandim.

bir safar toshkentda juda did bilan kiyingan hijobli kelinni ko'rib rosa havasim kelgandi.

[Gareeb]

Nima qilibdi agar rasmdagi qizlar musulmon bo'lmasa, yoki ko'rinishi "jalb qiluvchi" bo'lsa? axir bu marketingku. qolaversa, kiyimni qanday kiyilishi, ro'molni qanday o'ralishi haqida informaciya ham kerakku.

ko'pincha ko'chada tor shim, va tizzagacha ham uzun bo'lmagan kamiz kiygan, lekin hijob o'ragan arab qizlarni ko'rib qolaman(pokistonlik yo boshqa millat musulmonlar emas, arablar shunaqa modaga, o'zini ko'rsatishga o'chroq). mangamas ularni muhokama qilish, lekin maqsadni tushunmiman to'g'risi. Iqra aytganlariday bunaqa tomoshani ko'rib musulmon bo'lmaganlar ham hayron qoladi.

lekin bir safar chang'i uchish uchun mo'ljallangan sport kiyimidagi hijobli ayollarni ko'rgandim. ahir uzun etak bilan chang'i uchib bo'lmasa... shu yerda dilemma hosil bo'ladi. buni musulmon erkagi qanaqa kiyinishi kerak, degan mavzuda ham yozgandim.

bir safar toshkentda juda did bilan kiyingan hijobli kelinni ko'rib rosa havasim kelgandi.

Kim nima qilsa qilaversin.Hijobning o'z shartlari bor.Bu mawzuni Beauty of hijab deb nomlanishi o'zi noto'gri.Chunki bular hijoblik wazifasini o'tay olmaydi.

[dorahon]

Hijobni chiroyli kiyishni nimasi yomon, tushunmayman,kuzga tashlanmasligi kerak,tugri, bu degani faqat qorada yurish degani masku, kupchilik gapirganlarga savoll????hotiniz,oyiz,singlis, shuni hotyabi kiyadimi?? yoki qizlarimizchi? man qayni singillarim hijobda,juda ham chiroyli,shunaqa rasmlardagi uhxshagan har hil rumollarni chiroyli qilib urashadi.Univerimda musulmon qizlar shunaqa chiroyli qilib uraydi,prosta zaglyaden'e.bunaqa darajada qat'iy bulish keremas deb uylayman.har bir insonni uziga havola qanday qilib,kiyish toshkentdagi,singillarimiz echinishvotti voobshe.bu hijobdagilar esa dlya reklami,kurmasak qaerdan olamiz,qandoq qilib bilamiz bizaga yoqadimi yuqmi?? hayot oq-qora emas faqat.

[Qizil-Gul]

1. Menga rasmlar juda yoqti oralarida juda ko'pi hijob hisoblanadi. Qizlar modellar bo'lgani uchun kiyimlarni tor qilib kiyishgan agar sal kengroq kiyilsa unda juda maqsadga muvoffiq bo'ladi.

2. Hojobni figurez ko'rinmagandan keyin go'zal kyishni hech qanday yomon joyi yo'q. Nima muslimon ayol go'zal kyina olmaydimi?

3. Menimcha yog'idan ko'ra yuqirdagi swimming suitlarni bori yahshi. Bular badanga yopishib qolmaydi, ha albatta odamlar qalati qaraydi lekin hamma ham faqat ayollar bor resortlarni qattan topadi deysiz? Hammasi ayol bo'sa ham belizdan pasini ko'rsatish baribir harom. Menimcha juda ham go'zal swimsuitlar, buni tushunmaydigan begona erkak ayollar zotan islomni ham hijobni ham tushunmaydi

[SmIlIk]

Bilishimcha bunday kiyimlarni asosan Turkiya va Ovrupa ayollari ko'p kiyadilar. O'ylab qarasangiz forum ishtirokchilaring gaplari tog'ridan to'gri necha ming musilmonga otilgan toshdek va ularni ihlos bilan bajarayotgan farzlarini puchga chiqargandek bo'layapti.

Qolaversa Qizil-Gulning aytib o'tganlaridek bu modellar bo'lib, ba'zi bir kiyimlarni moda qilib ko'rsatishayotgandur. Burda Moda jurnalidagi hamma narsani ham ayollar ilib olmaydiku, o'ziga ep bilganini kiyadi(bu misol edi). Ep bilsa ham buning uchun kimnidur "qaysi hayoli joyida ayol bu narsalarni kiyadi", deyish uni g'iybat qilishga kirib qolmaydimi?

Balki sizning ayolingiz, nazdingizdagi muslima bunchalik tor yoki "boshqacha" kiyim kiymas, Wallahi a'lam. Bu hijob, bu hijob emas deyishning o'rniga atrofingizdagi yarim yalang'och qizlarni ozgina u yoq bu yoqlarini yopib yurishga chaqiringlar. Bu boshiga ro'mol o'rab, avratini berkitib yurgan qizlarga "hoy" deyishdan ko'ra hisobi kattaroq bo'lsa kerak.

[MalikaN]

Some dresses for women who wear hedjab.

http://img.uz/images/36494056.jpg (http://img.uz) http://img.uz/images/30593077.jpg (http://img.uz)

http://img.uz/images/721050099.jpg (http://img.uz) http://img.uz/images/341426098.jpg (http://img.uz)

[Vezunchik]

hey, birodarla va opa-singilla!
agar o`ylab ko`rsela 50-60 yillada halqimizda hali diyn sust bo`lgan paytda (sssr oqibatida) ham Ko`p odamlarimizda (hammasida emas) Iymon bo`lmasa ham Insof bor edi. Tizzasigacha ochiq qizlarimzga yomon ko`z bilan qarashga or qilinardi. Qizlani ota-onasi, akalari va Mahhalla opoqilari tanbeh bilan tarbiya qilardi. Begana qizga qarab Voy unaqa ekan, Voy bunaqa ekan diyish erkaklrga uyat hisoblanardi. Qizlar ham o`t bo`tini ko`rsatishni emas, tarbiyasini ko`rsatishni o`ylardi.

Yani, agar erkakda Iymon bo`lmasa isqirt qop kiygan qizdan "sexy" joyini qidiradi. Qizda iymon bo`lmasa Hijob kiyib ham "qichig`ini" (uzr, qo`pol bo`lsa ham) ko`rsatadi.

Mani o`qishimda 2 ta pokistonliklar bor. 35 yahsharli, bollari bor, ichmiydi. Har doim, Har soat hayoli faqat qizlada, hayvonga o`hshab baqrayib turadi. Bitta ham qiz ula bilan gaplashgisi kelmaydi. Qizla Irkanadi (hotya hunuk erkakla emas) uladan, mana shunqa hayvoniyligi uchun. Iymon bor Insof yo`q. Shuncha qiyshang`i qiz turganda kelib keilib Hijobli qizlaga qarab, baqrayib tuganda Tanbeh bergandim. jahli chiqqandi, Pokiston juda Islomiy davlat, ..bla-bla ... deb.

Shuning uchun oldin Mukammal bo`lmasa ham Hijob kiyg`izishni o`rgatish kerak, ongini o`zgartish kerak, keyin mukammal qilishga Olloh o`zi quvvat , hohsh beradi. Ahir ayol zoti butun umr kiyim-lattaga qiziqadi. Sabr bilan tarbiya qilsa bo`ladi.

Lekin tushunaman, sizlarning gapingiz ham faqat yahshi bo`lsin deb etilayotgan gaplar...

[VatanparvaR]

Mani o`qishimda 2 ta pokistonliklar bor. 35 yahsharli, bollari bor, ichmiydi. Har doim, Har soat hayoli faqat qizlada, hayvonga o`hshab baqrayib turadi. Bitta ham qiz ula bilan gaplashgisi kelmaydi. Qizla Irkanadi (hotya hunuk erkakla emas) uladan, mana shunqa hayvoniyligi uchun. Iymon bor Insof yo`q. Shuncha qiyshang`i qiz turganda kelib keilib Hijobli qizlaga qarab, baqrayib tuganda Tanbeh bergandim. jahli chiqqandi, Pokiston juda Islomiy davlat, ..bla-bla ... deb.


Bilasizmi, e'tibor berib ko'rganmisiz, o'zbeklar xam shunday :)
Xammasi demayapman, ko'pchiligi shunaqa. Ko'pchilik qismi shunday bo'gandan keyin, o'zbeklar deyishga xaqlimiz. :)
Qozoqlar xam. Tojiklar xam. Turklar xam. Kavkazliklar xam. Arablarniku endi aytmay qo'yaqolay :)

Nega shunday ekan?

Men, bu yoki Islom dinini noto'g'ri tushunganlikdan, yoki bo'lmasa shu dinda qatiyan man qilinganligidan erkaklarda xirs kuchayib ketgan bo'lsa kerak degan fikrga keldim.

[real_life]

Assalamu alaykum warohmatulloh
Ushbu mavzu/thread juda foydali bolsada kop anglashilmovchiliklar insonlarni Islomni va shuni ketidan hijobni asl mohiyati va talablarini tushunmaslik/bilmaslikdan kelib chiqmoqda. Kopchilikning ongida hijob degani bu tananing malum qismlari va boshni yopib tursa boldi degan tushuncha bolib qolgan. Bunday kiyim ochiq sochiq yurishdan afzalligiga shak shubha yoq bu haqda hech kim bahs ham qilayotgani yoq, ammo bu hali hijob deb atalishga loyiq emas bolishi mumkin. Biz va boshka bazi userlar ham bunday kiyinishga qarshi emas balki bu kiyimlarni aynan hijob deb atalashiga qarshi ekanliklarini tushunishingizni istardik. Mana shunday kiyimlar kiyish odab bolib kolgan bazi halqlar ham ozlari bilmagan hollarida kiyinayotgan bolishlari mumkin, ularni hammasini bunday kiyingani uchun gunohkor demaymiz balki ular ilm olib haqiqiy hijob qanday bolishlarini organmayotganliklari uchun gunohkorlar, wallohu a'lam. QOlaversa turkiya va boshka kop halqlarda bunday oranib yurish bu islomda buyurilgan hijob deb emas balki odat deb qilishadi, buni ham farqlab olishimiz kerak. Boshqa threadlarda ochiq sochiq qizlarni tomosha/muhokama qilish albatta yomon va biz ham bunga qarshimiz, lekin din nomidan ilmsizlikdan/tushunmaganlikdan noto'g'ri narsalarni gapirishga undan ham koproq qarshimiz, Buni tushunib olinsa yahshiroq bolar edi. Gapni kopaytirmasdan Islomdagi hojob qanday bolishi kerak, kiyimni hijob deb atalishi uchun qanday shartlar bajarilgan bolishi kerakligi haqida hammamiz yahshilab bilib olsak ozimiz uchun foydaliroq bolar edi va ortiqcha muhokamalarga orin qolmasligiga umid qilaman:

ШАРИАТ ТАЛАБ КИЛГАН ХИЖОБНИНГ ЗАРУРИЙ ШАРТЛАРИ
1. Хижоб аёлнинг бутун танасини ёпиб туриши керак, шу каторда хар эхтимолга кўра юзини ва кафтини хам.
2. Хижобнинг ўзи безак, зеб-зийнат бўлмаслиги керак. Аллох таъоло бу хакда шундай деган: «Кўриниб тургандан бошка зеб-зийнатларини (яъни устларидаги либосдан бошка зеб-зийнатларини номахрамларга) кўрсатмасинлар ва кўкракларини рўмол билан тўссинлар» (Нур сураси, 31-оят). «...илгариги динсизлик (даври) даги ясан-тусан каби ясан-тусан килманглар« (Ахзоб сураси, 33-оят). Аллох хижобни аёлнинг гўзаллиги, зийнатларини беркитиб туриши учун мажбурий килди. Шунинг учун хам хижобнинг ўзи зийнат, ясан-тусан бўлиши аклсизлик хисобланади.
3. Хижоб кадди-коматни намоён киладиган даражада юпка матодан бўлмаслиги керак ва кўзга ташланмайдиган тусда бўлиши лозим. Факат шу холдагина аёлнинг хакикий ўранишига (хижобланишига) эришиш мумкин. Юпка хижоб аёлни номигагина ўрайди. Аслида эса у ялангоч холдадир. Расулуллох Соллаллоху алайхи васаллам айтганлар: «Умматимнинг охирида ясан-тусан килиб кийинган – ялангоч(ярим ялангоч) бошлари туянинг ўркачига ўхшаш кийшайган аёллар бўладилар. Уларни лаънатланглар, чунки улар малъун(яъни лаънатланган)дирлар». Бошка бир хадисда бунга кўшимча равишда шундай дейилган: «Улар харгиз жаннатга кирмайдилар, хатто хидини хам хидламайдилар. Холбуки, унинг хиди бир канча масофадан туриб сезилади». Юкорида келтирилган фикрлардан маълум бўладики, нафис, харир, коматларини кўрсатиб турувчи кийим кийиш каттик, халокатли гунохдир.
4. Хижоб кенг бўлиши, тор бўлмаслиги лозим. Чунки ундан максад атрофдагиларни ўзига жалб килишдан сакланишдир. Тор хижоб аёлнинг бутун коматини намоён килади. Бундай аёлга назари тушган эркак аёлнинг бутун кадди-коматини кўз олдига келтириб тасаввур килиши мумкин. Бундай холатда эса маълум бир разиллик, фитна содир бўлади. Усома ибн Зайд айтади: «Расулуллох Соллаллоху алайхи васаллам менга Дихятул-Калбий совга килган ёпинчигини бердилар. Мен эса уни ўз аёлимга кийдириб кўйдим. Кейинрок Расулуллох мени кўриб : «Нега ёпинчигингни киймаяпсан?»- деб сўрадилар. Мен: “Уни аёлимга кийдириб кўйдим»,- деб жавоб бердим. Шунда у киши айтдилар: «Аёлингга бориб айтки, ёпинчикнинг ичидан кўйлак кийиб олсин, токи унинг комати ва жисми билинмасин».
5. Хижоб атир ёки бошка хушбўй нарсалар билан хушбўйланган бўлмаслиги лозим. Расулуллох Соллаллоху алайхи васаллам айтганлар: «Хушбўй нарсаларни сепиб шу холда эркаклар ундан келаётган хушбўй хидни сезишлари учун уйидан чиккан хар кандай аёл зинокордир».
6. Хижоб эркакларнинг кийимига ўхшамаслиги керак. Расулуллох Соллаллоху алайхи васаллам айтганлар: «Ўзларини эркакка ўхшатган аёллар бизлардан эмас хамда ўзларини аёлларга ўхшатган эркаклар хам бизлардан эмасдир». Абу Хурайра розияллоху анху шундай деган: «Расулуллох аёллар кийимини кийган эркакларни ва эркаклар кийимини кийиб юрувчи аёлларни лаънатладилар». Расулуллох Соллаллоху алайхи васаллам мархамат килиб айтганларки: «Инсонларнинг уч тоифаси борки, улар жаннатга кирмайдилар ва киёмат кунида Аллох уларга киё хам бокмайди: Ота-онасини хурмат килмаганлар, ўзини эркакка ўхшатган аёл, ўз аёлининг иффатини саклашга бепарво бўлган эркак».
7. Хижоб иймонсиз, кофир аёлларнинг кийимларига ўхшамаслиги шарт. Расулуллох Соллаллоху алайхи васаллам айтганлар: «Кимки кайси бир кавмга ўзини ўхшатса, бас у ўшалардандир». Абдуллох ибни Амр шундай деганлар: «Бир куни Расулуллох Соллаллоху алайхи васаллам мени махсар бўёги билан заъфарон рангга бўялган кийимда кўриб: «Бу иймонсиз кишиларнинг кийими, буни асло бошка киймагин,- дедилар.
8. Хижоб кўзга ташланувчан, атрофдагилар назарини ўзига тортадиган бўлмаслиги лозим. Расулуллох бу хакда шундай деганлар: «Бу дунёда одамлар кўзига ташланувчи кийим кийиб юрувчи кимсага Аллох киёмат кунида хорлик либосини кийдириб кўяди». Кўзга ташланувчан ва ажралиб турувчи кийим, бу нарсани киювчилар учун одамларнинг диккатини ўзига жалб килиш воситаси бўлиб хизмат килади. Бу либос одамларнинг олдида гердайиб юрувчи мактанчок, кишининг кимматбахо, дабдабали кийими бўлиши ёки ўзининг зохидлигини намойиш килишга уринаётган риёкор кишининг жулдур кийими хам бўлиши мумкин.

bu shartlar bajarilmas ekan kiyimni hijobdan boshka nom bilan atalishi kerakligi tarafdoriman.
kopchilik erkaklarni oranganlarga qarashini aynan mana shu shartlar bajarmaganligini oqibati deb bilaman, bu shartlarga kora kiyinganda erkaklar e'tiborini tortish ehtimoldan uzoq. Bu shartlardan tashqari yana ayollar uchun kiyinish va yurish turishda makruh bolgan bazi boshka amallar ham bor
wassalamu alaykum
P.S. for more (http://forum.arbuz.com/showthread.php?t=38678)

[infolife]

Dear Guess,
please dont take it personal.:)
It just upsets many muslims when these magazines talk about hijab yet dont apply the proper standards of islamic dress code. It gives the wrong image as these dresses dont fall under the name of "hijab", we can call it anything but not hijab.

That's what some users are trying to explain and I dont think majority of these users go to threads like "uzbek girls picture/why women have balls ...etc". They arent even bothered because those threads not mixed up with the religion of Allah.

[Qizil-Gul]

2. Хижобнинг ўзи безак, зеб-зийнат бўлмаслиги керак. Аллох таъоло бу хакда шундай деган:

«Кўриниб тургандан бошка зеб-зийнатларини (яъни устларидаги либосдан бошка зеб-зийнатларини номахрамларга) кўрсатмасинлар ва кўкракларини рўмол билан тўссинлар» (Нур сураси, 31-оят).

Bu oyatni kim tushintirb o'tgan bo'lsa ham man tushunmadim, mani bilishim bo'yicha va zotan oyatta ham etib o'tilgan kiyim zeb ziynat hisoblanmaydi, ayol kishining zebi ziynati bu badani manosida etilgan.

Haligacha tushunmiyamman chiroyli qilib ro'mol orashing , kiyimni moslab kiyishining nima yomon dinga qarshi tomoni bor.

Bazan juda complicated qilib tashaysizlar manimcha hamma narsani. :(

[SmIlIk]

Assalamu alaykum warohmatulloh
Ushbu mavzu/thread juda foydali bolsada kop anglashilmovchiliklar insonlarni Islomni va shuni ketidan hijobni asl mohiyati va talablarini tushunmaslik/bilmaslikdan kelib chiqmoqda. Kopchilikning ongida hijob degani bu tananing malum qismlari va boshni yopib tursa boldi degan tushuncha bolib qolgan. Bunday kiyim ochiq sochiq yurishdan afzalligiga shak shubha yoq bu haqda hech kim bahs ham qilayotgani yoq, ammo bu hali hijob deb atalishga loyiq emas bolishi mumkin. Biz va boshka bazi userlar ham bunday kiyinishga qarshi emas balki bu kiyimlarni aynan hijob deb atalashiga qarshi ekanliklarini tushunishingizni istardik. Mana shunday kiyimlar kiyish odab bolib kolgan bazi halqlar ham ozlari bilmagan hollarida kiyinayotgan bolishlari mumkin, ularni hammasini bunday kiyingani uchun gunohkor demaymiz balki ular ilm olib haqiqiy hijob qanday bolishlarini organmayotganliklari uchun gunohkorlar, wallohu a'lam. QOlaversa turkiya va boshka kop halqlarda bunday oranib yurish bu islomda buyurilgan hijob deb emas balki odat deb qilishadi, buni ham farqlab olishimiz kerak. Boshqa threadlarda ochiq sochiq qizlarni tomosha/muhokama qilish albatta yomon va biz ham bunga qarshimiz, lekin din nomidan ilmsizlikdan/tushunmaganlikdan noto'g'ri narsalarni gapirishga undan ham koproq qarshimiz, Buni tushunib olinsa yahshiroq bolar edi. Gapni kopaytirmasdan Islomdagi hojob qanday bolishi kerak, kiyimni hijob deb atalishi uchun qanday shartlar bajarilgan bolishi kerakligi haqida hammamiz yahshilab bilib olsak ozimiz uchun foydaliroq bolar edi va ortiqcha muhokamalarga orin qolmasligiga umid qilaman:

ШАРИАТ ТАЛАБ КИЛГАН ХИЖОБНИНГ ЗАРУРИЙ ШАРТЛАРИ
1. Хижоб аёлнинг бутун танасини ёпиб туриши керак, шу каторда хар эхтимолга кўра юзини ва кафтини хам.
2. Хижобнинг ўзи безак, зеб-зийнат бўлмаслиги керак. Аллох таъоло бу хакда шундай деган: «Кўриниб тургандан бошка зеб-зийнатларини (яъни устларидаги либосдан бошка зеб-зийнатларини номахрамларга) кўрсатмасинлар ва кўкракларини рўмол билан тўссинлар» (Нур сураси, 31-оят). «...илгариги динсизлик (даври) даги ясан-тусан каби ясан-тусан килманглар« (Ахзоб сураси, 33-оят). Аллох хижобни аёлнинг гўзаллиги, зийнатларини беркитиб туриши учун мажбурий килди. Шунинг учун хам хижобнинг ўзи зийнат, ясан-тусан бўлиши аклсизлик хисобланади.
3. Хижоб кадди-коматни намоён киладиган даражада юпка матодан бўлмаслиги керак ва кўзга ташланмайдиган тусда бўлиши лозим. Факат шу холдагина аёлнинг хакикий ўранишига (хижобланишига) эришиш мумкин. Юпка хижоб аёлни номигагина ўрайди. Аслида эса у ялангоч холдадир. Расулуллох Соллаллоху алайхи васаллам айтганлар: «Умматимнинг охирида ясан-тусан килиб кийинган – ялангоч(ярим ялангоч) бошлари туянинг ўркачига ўхшаш кийшайган аёллар бўладилар. Уларни лаънатланглар, чунки улар малъун(яъни лаънатланган)дирлар». Бошка бир хадисда бунга кўшимча равишда шундай дейилган: «Улар харгиз жаннатга кирмайдилар, хатто хидини хам хидламайдилар. Холбуки, унинг хиди бир канча масофадан туриб сезилади». Юкорида келтирилган фикрлардан маълум бўладики, нафис, харир, коматларини кўрсатиб турувчи кийим кийиш каттик, халокатли гунохдир.
4. Хижоб кенг бўлиши, тор бўлмаслиги лозим. Чунки ундан максад атрофдагиларни ўзига жалб килишдан сакланишдир. Тор хижоб аёлнинг бутун коматини намоён килади. Бундай аёлга назари тушган эркак аёлнинг бутун кадди-коматини кўз олдига келтириб тасаввур килиши мумкин. Бундай холатда эса маълум бир разиллик, фитна содир бўлади. Усома ибн Зайд айтади: «Расулуллох Соллаллоху алайхи васаллам менга Дихятул-Калбий совга килган ёпинчигини бердилар. Мен эса уни ўз аёлимга кийдириб кўйдим. Кейинрок Расулуллох мени кўриб : «Нега ёпинчигингни киймаяпсан?»- деб сўрадилар. Мен: “Уни аёлимга кийдириб кўйдим»,- деб жавоб бердим. Шунда у киши айтдилар: «Аёлингга бориб айтки, ёпинчикнинг ичидан кўйлак кийиб олсин, токи унинг комати ва жисми билинмасин».
5. Хижоб атир ёки бошка хушбўй нарсалар билан хушбўйланган бўлмаслиги лозим. Расулуллох Соллаллоху алайхи васаллам айтганлар: «Хушбўй нарсаларни сепиб шу холда эркаклар ундан келаётган хушбўй хидни сезишлари учун уйидан чиккан хар кандай аёл зинокордир».
6. Хижоб эркакларнинг кийимига ўхшамаслиги керак. Расулуллох Соллаллоху алайхи васаллам айтганлар: «Ўзларини эркакка ўхшатган аёллар бизлардан эмас хамда ўзларини аёлларга ўхшатган эркаклар хам бизлардан эмасдир». Абу Хурайра розияллоху анху шундай деган: «Расулуллох аёллар кийимини кийган эркакларни ва эркаклар кийимини кийиб юрувчи аёлларни лаънатладилар». Расулуллох Соллаллоху алайхи васаллам мархамат килиб айтганларки: «Инсонларнинг уч тоифаси борки, улар жаннатга кирмайдилар ва киёмат кунида Аллох уларга киё хам бокмайди: Ота-онасини хурмат килмаганлар, ўзини эркакка ўхшатган аёл, ўз аёлининг иффатини саклашга бепарво бўлган эркак».
7. Хижоб иймонсиз, кофир аёлларнинг кийимларига ўхшамаслиги шарт. Расулуллох Соллаллоху алайхи васаллам айтганлар: «Кимки кайси бир кавмга ўзини ўхшатса, бас у ўшалардандир». Абдуллох ибни Амр шундай деганлар: «Бир куни Расулуллох Соллаллоху алайхи васаллам мени махсар бўёги билан заъфарон рангга бўялган кийимда кўриб: «Бу иймонсиз кишиларнинг кийими, буни асло бошка киймагин,- дедилар.
8. Хижоб кўзга ташланувчан, атрофдагилар назарини ўзига тортадиган бўлмаслиги лозим. Расулуллох бу хакда шундай деганлар: «Бу дунёда одамлар кўзига ташланувчи кийим кийиб юрувчи кимсага Аллох киёмат кунида хорлик либосини кийдириб кўяди». Кўзга ташланувчан ва ажралиб турувчи кийим, бу нарсани киювчилар учун одамларнинг диккатини ўзига жалб килиш воситаси бўлиб хизмат килади. Бу либос одамларнинг олдида гердайиб юрувчи мактанчок, кишининг кимматбахо, дабдабали кийими бўлиши ёки ўзининг зохидлигини намойиш килишга уринаётган риёкор кишининг жулдур кийими хам бўлиши мумкин.

bu shartlar bajarilmas ekan kiyimni hijobdan boshka nom bilan atalishi kerakligi tarafdoriman.
kopchilik erkaklarni oranganlarga qarashini aynan mana shu shartlar bajarmaganligini oqibati deb bilaman, bu shartlarga kora kiyinganda erkaklar e'tiborini tortish ehtimoldan uzoq. Bu shartlardan tashqari yana ayollar uchun kiyinish va yurish turishda makruh bolgan bazi boshka amallar ham bor
wassalamu alaykum
P.S. istaganlar bolsa har bir shartlar uchun chuqurroq dalillar keltirishim mumkin.

Qarshi bir narsa demoqchi emasman. Alloh sizdan yana bir bora oydinlik kiritib o'tganingiz uchun rozi bo'lsin. Zero turklar ham bunday giysilarni hijab emas, o'rtu' (uzbek=ro'mol, english=head cover, arabic=khimar) deyishadi. Kiyim (hijab, jalbab, niqab, burqa, chadur, va h.k.z ) tanlashda esa har bir masxab boshqa, boshqa fikrlarga egalar (olimlarining talqinlari ham boshqacha bo'lishi mumkin).

SMLK

[Qizil-Gul]

It just upsets many Muslims when these magazines talk about hijab yet don't apply the proper standards of Islamic dress code. It gives the wrong image as these dresses don't fall under the name of "hijab", we can call it anything but not hijab.

Well, with my all respect to you, infolife, I have never seen surah or ayah that says or uses word "hijab". It talks about scarf and dresses appropriate for muslimah.

I am not trying to argue, I am trying to understand :). Hope you do not misunderstand my eagerness to learn.


And I agree with what SMLK said, it may be interpretation of Quranic VERSES by different scholars. For example pants, can you wear them? I think yes.

[SmIlIk]

Well, with my all respect to you, infolife, I have never seen surah or ayah that says or uses word "hijab". It talks about scarf and dresses appropriate for muslimah.

I am not trying to argue, I am trying to understand :). Hope you do not misunderstand my eagerness to learn.

That is exactly what I was thinking of writing. Since I was making lots of research on this topic I never came across with this term in Quran either. I always thought covering up (being modest) was mentioned in Quran by general terms like head cover, dresses (maybe loose dresses), etc. Correct me if I am wrong.

SMLK

P.S. After all shouldn't it be about fulfilling the command and one's intention of being covered? Why should it get complicated and have gazillions of rules? I hope sisters here will not take my post as an attack of some sort. But I have to let you know that I very much hesitate to judge thousands or ten thousands of muslim ladies who think they are obeying rules of Allah.

[Qizil-Gul]

I have to let you know that I very much hesitate to judge thousands or ten thousands of muslim ladies who think they are obeying rules of Allah.

I think this is very important, million dollar comment, for all of us muslims, "devoted muslims" not to judge other muslims or non muslims. Allahul Alam who is wearing covers for sake of Allah and with whom Allah is pleased. We dont know that, weather it is Hijab or jacket.

[Professor]

Well, with my all respect to you, infolife, I have never seen surah or ayah that says or uses word "hijab". It talks about scarf and dresses appropriate for muslimah.
That is exactly what I was thinking of writing. Since I was making lots of research on this topic I never came across with this term in Quran either. I always thought covering up (being modest) was mentioned in Quran by general terms like head cover, dresses (maybe loose dresses), etc. Correct me if I am wrong.

Dear mislima sisters,
Thanks for your inquiries about Islamic dress-code. First of all you can't find the exact terminology that we are adopted to use in our daily life from Quran, that's we have some scholars to address with any issue,'cause they have knowledgable source to eloborate your issues.
I will give you some ayats from Quran, insh'allah it will help you.
7-26
Ey, Odam avlodi! Sizlarga avratlaringizni berkitadigan libos va patlar (ziynat kiyimlari)ni tushirdik. (Ammo) taqvo libosi bu yaxshiroqdir. Bu(lar) Allohning mo''jizalaridandir. Shoyad (buni) eslab ko'rsalar!
Izoh: Oyatdan ma'lum bo'ladiki, avratlarni yopadigan kiyim asosiy kiyim, boshqa qo'shimcha kiyim-kechaklar esa zebu ziynat hisoblanar ekan. "Lekin, - deydi Parvardigor, - bu liboslaringiz uyatdan, issiq-sovuqdan saqlasa, taqvo libosi oxirat azobidan saqlaydi." Demak, qimmatbaho kiyimlardan ko'ra ham taqvoni libos qilib kiyib olish yaxshiroq ekan.
English: O Children of Adam! We have bestowed raiment upon you to cover yourselves (screen your private parts, etc.) and as an adornment, and the raiment of righteousness (Libāsu At-Taqwá), that is better. Such are among the Ayāt (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allāh, that they may remember (i.e. leave falsehood and follow truth[]). (Al-A'raf 7:26)

33-59
Ey, Payg'ambar, xotinlaringizga, qizlaringizga va mo'minlarning xotinlariga ayting, ustlariga yopinchiqlarini tashlab olsinlar! Mana shu ularning (kim ekanliklari) tanilib, ozorlanmasliklari uchun eng yaqin (uslubdir). Alloh mag'firatli va rahmli zotdir.
English: O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allāh is Ever Oft­Forgiving, Most Merciful. (Al-Ahzab 33:59)

[Professor]

I think this is very important, million dollar comment, for all of us muslims, "devoted muslims" not to judge other muslims or non muslims. Allahul Alam who is wearing covers for sake of Allah and with whom Allah is pleased. We dont know that, weather it is Hijab or jacket.
Sometimes it seems that the overwhelming majority of Muslim women who don't cover and who believe in God, believe they should cover, but believe they're not ready yet.

This reality indicates there is a seed of faith that needs to be nurtured and encouraged. As well, it means these women need all the support they can get. Many Muslim women are coming from cultures where the Hijab is not practiced, for whatever reason. These sisters should not be condemned. Rather, Islamic concepts like Hijab, should be explained to them.

Another possibility is that Muslim women who do not wear Hijab are coming from families which are either not practicing Islam, or are downright hostile to it.

Another reason some Muslim women may find Hijab difficult is because of the often negative ideas surrounding Hijab. For instance, that wearing Hijab kills marriage and job prospects. We must seek to dispel such myths.

[Professor]

The word "hijab" comes from the Arabic word "hajaba" meaning to hide from view or conceal. In the present time, the context of hijab is the modest covering of a Muslim woman. The question now is what is the extent of the covering?
The Qur'an says: "Say to the believing man that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that will make for greater purity for them; and Allah is well acquainted with all that they do.
"And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; and that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands..." (Qur'an 24:30-31)

These verses from the Qur'an contain two main injunctions: (1) A woman should not show her beauty or adornments except what appears by uncontrolled factors such as the wind blowing her clothes, and (2) the head covers should be drawn so as to cover the hair, the neck and the bosom.

Islam has no fixed standard as to the style of dress or type of clothing that Muslims must wear. However, some requirements must be met.

The first of these requirements is the parts of the body which must be covered.
Islam has two sources for guidance and rulings: first, the Qur'an, the revealed word of Allah and secondly, the Hadith or the traditions of the Prophet Muhammad (S) who was chosen by Allah to be the role model for mankind. The following is a Tradition of the Prophet:
"Ayesha (R) reported that Asmaa the daughter of Abu Bakr (R) came to the Messenger of Allah (S) while wearing thin clothing. He approached her and said: 'O Asmaa! When a girl reaches the menstrual age, it is not proper that anything should remain exposed except this and this. He pointed to the face and hands." (Abu Dawood)

The second requirement is looseness. The clothing must be loose enough so as not to describe the shape of the woman's body. One desirable way to hide the shape of the body is to wear a cloak over other clothes. However, if the clothing is loose enough, an outer garment is not necessary.

Thickness is the third requirement. The clothing must be thick enough so as not to show the color of the skin it covers or the shape of the body. The Prophet Muhammad (S) stated that in later generations of his ummah there would be "women who would be dressed but naked and on top of their heads (what looks like) camel humps. Curse them for they are truly cursed." (Muslim)

Another requirement is an over-all dignified appearance. The clothing should not attract men's attention to the woman. It should not be shiny and flashy so that everyone notices the dress and the woman.

In addition there are other requirements:
(1) Women must not dress so as to appear as men. "Ibn Abbas narrated: 'The Prophet (S) cursed the men who appear like women and the women who appear like men.'" (Bukhari)
(2) Women should not dress in a way similar to the unbelievers.
(3) The clothing should be modest, not excessively fancy and also not excessively ragged to gain others admiration or sympathy.
Often forgotten is the fact that modern Western dress is a new invention. Looking at the clothing of women as recently as seventy years ago, we see clothing similar to hijab. These active and hard-working women of the West were not inhibited by their clothing which consisted of long, full dresses and various types of head covering. Muslim women who wear hijab do not find it impractical or interfering with their activities in all levels and walks of life.
Hijab is not merely a covering dress but more importantly, it is behavior, manners, speech and appearance in public. Dress is only one facet of the total being.

The basic requirement of the Muslim woman's dress apply to the Muslim man's clothing with the difference being mainly in degree. Modesty requires that the area between the navel and the knee be covered in front of all people except the wife. The clothing of men should not be like the dress of women, nor should it be tight or provocative. A Muslim should dress to show his identity as a Muslim. Men are not allowed to wear gold or silk. However, both are allowed for women.
For both men and women, clothing requirements are not meant to be a restriction but rather a way in which society will function in a proper, Islamic manner. -- Mary C. Ali
http://www.jannah.org/sisters/hijab2.html (http://www.jannah.org/sisters/hijab2.html)

[infolife]

Well, with my all respect to you, infolife, I have never seen surah or ayah that says or uses word "hijab". It talks about scarf and dresses appropriate for muslimah.

I am not trying to argue, I am trying to understand :). Hope you do not misunderstand my eagerness to learn.


And I agree with what SMLK said, it may be interpretation of Quranic VERSES by different scholars. For example pants, can you wear them? I think yes.
Assalamu alaykum,
the term HIJAB might not be used in Quran. However, in our daily life we use this word to mean woman's covering according to Quran and Sunnah
At least in uzbek, when someone says "hijobli qiz", a woman covered with appliance to Shariah dresscode is understood

وَقُل لِّلْمُؤْمِنَاتِ يَغْضُضْنَ مِنْ أَبْصَارِهِنَّ وَيَحْفَظْنَ فُرُوجَهُنَّ وَلاَ يُبْدِينَ زِينَتَهُنَّ إِلاَّ مَا ظَهَرَ مِنْهَا وَلْيَضْرِبْنَ بِخُمُرِهِنَّ عَلَىٰ جُيُوبِهِنَّ وَلاَ يُبْدِينَ زِينَتَهُنَّ إِلاَّ لِبُعُولَتِهِنَّ أَوْ آبَآئِهِنَّ أَوْ آبَآءِ بُعُولَتِهِنَّ أَوْ أَبْنَآئِهِنَّ أَوْ أَبْنَآءِ بُعُولَتِهِنَّ أَوْ إِخْوَانِهِنَّ أَوْ بَنِيۤ إِخْوَانِهِنَّ أَوْ بَنِي أَخَوَاتِهِنَّ أَوْ نِسَآئِهِنَّ أَوْ مَا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمَانُهُنَّ أَوِ ٱلتَّابِعِينَ غَيْرِ أُوْلِي ٱلإِرْبَةِ مِنَ ٱلرِّجَالِ أَوِ ٱلطِّفْلِ ٱلَّذِينَ لَمْ يَظْهَرُواْ عَلَىٰ عَوْرَاتِ ٱلنِّسَآءِ وَلاَ يَضْرِبْنَ بِأَرْجُلِهِنَّ لِيُعْلَمَ مَا يُخْفِينَ مِن زِينَتِهِنَّ وَتُوبُوۤاْ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ جَمِيعاً أَيُّهَ ٱلْمُؤْمِنُونَ لَعَلَّكُمْ تُفْلِحُونَ (javascript:Open_Menu())

The term used in arabic is jilbab or "jalaba" and many tafseer scholars have explained it being one single piece of cloth from shoulder to feet to cover everything apart from face and hands. It has to be thick, loose enough not to show body's shape, modest(not fancy) enough not to attract a men's attention.

Also the surah says not to display adornments (zeb-ziynat) and this doesnt mean woman's body but things like bracelets/ornamented belts and the like. Because the next line talks about adornments again and says not to reveal them from mahrams: husbands,fathers,sons,milk-sons etc. Please note that if adornment meant woman's body like you said, the verse would be saying not to reveal body from those mentioned people which is incorrect.

Cover the neck and head with veil that should be drawn over bosoms as well

All these criteries taken from Quran and Hadith(ask for proof if you want or do a research yourself) and none of the girls pictured above fall under the right category of wearing hijab. And none is judging them.We're just saying that's not the proper islamic dresscode that Allah has ordered to wear and the Prophet has explained furthermore in a number of hadiths.Amri maruf, nahiy munkar-enjoin the good, forbid the wrong. It just gives the wrong image to female users who one day want to wear hijab inshaAllah(if not covered yet:) ). Maybe, that's what the users are trying to prevent

I personally dont care what these models wear. However, when they display HIJAB, I'd like it to be displayed approporiately according to Quran and Sunnah.

[Fifi]

Bol'she vsego porajaet to, chto na temi like "Uzbek girls picture", "Uzbek ashulachilarning rasmlari(mi-e)", "Why women have balls?" or "Национальные костюмы!!!" (avtori tem, pojaluysta, ne berite eto na svoy schyot) religioznaya chast' foruma smotrit skvoz' palsi, a tema, kotoraya bila otkrita dabi otorvat' vnimanie userov ot polugolih devushek i pokazat' to, chto (v moyom ponyatii) yavlyaetsya istinnoy krasotoy, stala yablokom razdora.


Hayotda ko'p narsa teskari bo'lishi bilan yashash qiziqda.:-)

Oppoq paxtaga qanchalik tez chang o'tiradi, hayotda ham xuddi shunday...

[lyalyapo]

Uni yozaman buni yozaman deb yurgandim yozishga qulim tekkandan qarasam asosiy narsalar hammasi yozilib bo'libdi, bitta qo'shimcha qilib o'tmoqchi edim.

"Hijob" so'zi uchramaganligi haqida aytib o'tishgan ekan, O'zbekistonda hijob ni infolife etishgandan shariat buyicha kiyim deb tushuniladi, lekin ko'pchilik boshqa yerladan hijob bu ro'mol (headscarf) deb tushuniladi. UK va Tukiyada shundayligini aniq bilaman, hijab deb so'rasez hamma ro'molni ko'rsatadi.

Men uchun yuqoridagi rasmlar ro'mol reklamasiday keldi. Ba'zilari yoqdi.Ba'zilari yo'q.

Yuqoridagi bir postda ba'zi hijobdagilar hijobsizlardan ko'ra uziga kuproq jalb qiladi deb aytishipti, hijobdagi ayolda faqatgina tashqi hayo emas ichki hayo ham bulishi kerak, o'zini kamtarin tutib, nozli qarashlaru, rasmga pozala qilib berish yarashmaydi. Afsuski uzbek qizlarimizda ham shu hollar uchrab turmoqda. Hijob kiyadiyu o'zini ko'z ko'z qiladi, bir nechi hafta oldin hi5 ga kirib qolipman ba'zi hijoblik qizlarning rasmiga bulgan commentlani uqib juda hafa buldim "You're hot, etc" ma'nolarda ba'zilari :(.
Bir tomondan u commentlani tashlagan bola hijoblik ekan bu qiz deb hayo qilmaydi, boshqa tomondan u qiz shunday commentga sabab bulgan rasm qo'yadi :(. Har bir narsaning javobi borku ahir.

Yigitlarga savol agarda qiz bola hijobni qonun qoidalari bn kiysa, nigohini ham asrasa , erkaklarga igriviy nigohu so'zlar tashlamasa ularga shahvat ila qaraysizmi ? E'tibor jalb qilishi mumkin, hayoldan qanday kamtarin, qanday go'zal deb utishi mumkin lekin "wow hot ekan" degan hayol o'tadimi ?

Uzr qo'polroq hamda rezkiyroq gaplarni ishlatgan bo'lsam, aslida da'vatni yumshoqlik ila qilish tarafdoriman, gaplarim hech kimga botmaydi degan niyatdaman.

[Abu-Bakr]

real_lifening postlaridan keyin hammasiga aniqlik kiritildi, boshqa tushunmovchiliklar bo'lmasa kerak dep o'ylagan edim. Lekin Allohning buyrug'i va uning tagidagi hikmatni anglab yetish va unga amal qilish faqatgina Alloh o'zi xoxlagan bandalariga nasib qilar ekan.

wa billah at-Tawfiyq

[lyalyapo]

real_lifening postlaridan keyin hammasiga aniqlik kiritildi, boshqa tushunmovchiliklar bo'lmasa kerak dep o'ylagan edim. Lekin Allohning buyrug'i va uning tagidagi hikmatni anglab yetish va unga amal qilish faqatgina Alloh o'zi xoxlagan bandalariga nasib qilar ekan.

wa billah at-Tawfiyq
Hijob kupchilik uchun murakkab bir amalday ko'rinadi, aslida unday bulmasada, shunga uz hayot tarziga uni yaqinlashtirish uchun har hil bahonalar izlaniladi, inshaallah anglab yetiladi bir kunmas bir kun. Step by step deganlariday :), faqat to'htashmasa bo'ldi ;)

[Abu-Bakr]

Yigitlarga savol agarda qiz bola hijobni qonun qoidalari bn kiysa, nigohini ham asrasa , erkaklarga igriviy nigohu so'zlar tashlamasa ularga shahvat ila qaraysizmi ? E'tibor jalb qilishi mumkin, hayoldan qanday kamtarin, qanday go'zal deb utishi mumkin lekin "wow hot ekan" degan hayol o'tadimi ?



Yo'q albatta, umrimda ishlatmaganman ayollarga nisbatan "hot" deb, va bundan keyin ham ishlatishdan Alloh saqlasin. Agar hijobsiz bo'lsa yoki hijobi shunaqa o'ziga jalb qiladigan bo'lsa, u holda ko'z ham tushib qoladi va hayoldan boshqacha fikrlar ham o'tadi(Alloh saqlasin).

Lekin agar haqiqiy hijob, taqwo libosi kiygan ayoldan iloji boricha uzoqroq yurishga va ko'zimni pastga qilishga harakat qilaman. Subhanallah, ba'zi katta olim kishilar oldiga borganda ularga Alloh berib qo'ygan salobatidan gapirmoqchi bo'lgan gapingiz/savolingiz esdan chiqib qoladi. Huddi shunga o'xshash, taqwo libosini kiygan ayollarni ko'rganda ham shunga o'xshash holat yuz beradi va siz o'zingiz iloji boricha undan nazaringizni olib qochishga harakat qilasiz. (wallahu a'lam)

[Professor]

33-33
O'z uylaringizda qaror topinglar, (ko'chaga chiqqanlaringizda esa) ilgarigi johiliyat (davri) yasanishidek yasanmangizlar! Namozni mukammal ado etinglar, zakotni beringlar hamda Alloh va Uning payg'ambariga itoat etinglar! Ey, (Payg'ambarning) xonadon ahli, Alloh sizlardan gunohni ketkazishni va sizlarni obdon poklashni istaydi, xolos.

33-55.(Payg'ambar ayollari) o'z otalariga, o'g'illariga, og'a-inilariga, og'a-inilarining o'g'illariga, opa-singillarining o'g'illariga, (mo'mina) ayollarga va qo'l ostilaridagi cho'rilarga (hijobsiz ko'rinishlarida) ularga gunoh yo'qdir. (Ey, payg'ambar ayollari), Allohdan qo'rqingizlar! Albatta, Alloh barcha narsaga guvohdir.


P.S.You may visit http://www.themuslimwoman.com/HerDress/

[SmIlIk]

real_lifening postlaridan keyin hammasiga aniqlik kiritildi, boshqa tushunmovchiliklar bo'lmasa kerak dep o'ylagan edim. Lekin Allohning buyrug'i va uning tagidagi hikmatni anglab yetish va unga amal qilish faqatgina Alloh o'zi xoxlagan bandalariga nasib qilar ekan.

wa billah at-Tawfiyq

emarat, sizning yozgan postlaringizga umuman qo'shilsamda, sizning odamlarni kuchli tanqid ostida olib, men o'rganganim, og'alarim qiladiganlari to'g'ri qolganlarnikini Alloh hohlamagan, degan gaplarning hidi urib turadi. Bu yerda gap Allohning buyrug'i haqida emas aynan ba'zilarning bu buyruqqa amal tushunish sharti bo'yicha boshqachaligi (butun dunyo bo'yicha) haqida ketayapti. Kim burqani, kim hijobni, kim chodirni gapiradi. Bu degani biri to'g'ri ikkinchisi noto'g'ri degani emas. Ingliz tilini o'qishni bilsangiz (yaxshi ma'noda aytdim) bunaqa comment yozishdan oldin boshqa odamlar tarafidan yozilgan narsalarni o'qib chiqing. Siz aytganingizdek kim Allohning buyrug'i va uning tagidagi hikmatini anglab yetayotgan ekanligini bilish Allohga havola bo'laqolsin....

SMLK

[Vezunchik]

sporilani Toni yoqmayabdiyu, Lekin sporilani Predmeti` yoqvoti. Juda foydali bahs-munozara. hammelaga savob yog`voti shekili, Hudo hohlasa! yozganlarilani o`qib hursand bo`ladi odam.!

[SmIlIk]

I think this is very important, million dollar comment, for all of us muslims, "devoted muslims" not to judge other muslims or non muslims. Allahul Alam who is wearing covers for sake of Allah and with whom Allah is pleased. We dont know that, weather it is Hijab or jacket.

Apparently people left this part as a blank. Isn't it more upsetting than to discuss who is wearing what type of head garment or what color jacket?

[infolife]

Apparently people left this part as a blank. Isn't it more upsetting than to discuss who is wearing what type of head garment or what color jacket?

Smilik, with all due respect,
none is discussing what people wear. in fact we dont care who wears what.i thought we were all discussing islamic dresscode for muslim woman

So far, everyone has given the proof based on Quran and Hadith and how it should be worn. Again, this is not something coming from our own wills but what have been ordered by Allah and explained by Prophet. Point any post otherwise where someone said "I think people have to wear this"

And stop calling that some people are judging others.
I dont call it judging when someone points to something wrong I do and explains the right way of doing it

i also think the real-life's post explains everything and we've just been repeating what she said.no more comments on this.

lets start talking about the real beauty of hijab instead

some headscarves i like. visit thehijabshop.com for more:)

[SmIlIk]

Uni yozaman buni yozaman deb yurgandim yozishga qulim tekkandan qarasam asosiy narsalar hammasi yozilib bo'libdi, bitta qo'shimcha qilib o'tmoqchi edim.

"Hijob" so'zi uchramaganligi haqida aytib o'tishgan ekan, O'zbekistonda hijob ni infolife etishgandan shariat buyicha kiyim deb tushuniladi, lekin ko'pchilik boshqa yerladan hijob bu ro'mol (headscarf) deb tushuniladi. UK va Tukiyada shundayligini aniq bilaman, hijab deb so'rasez hamma ro'molni ko'rsatadi.

Men uchun yuqoridagi rasmlar ro'mol reklamasiday keldi. Ba'zilari yoqdi.Ba'zilari yo'q.

Yuqoridagi bir postda ba'zi hijobdagilar hijobsizlardan ko'ra uziga kuproq jalb qiladi deb aytishipti, hijobdagi ayolda faqatgina tashqi hayo emas ichki hayo ham bulishi kerak, o'zini kamtarin tutib, nozli qarashlaru, rasmga pozala qilib berish yarashmaydi. Afsuski uzbek qizlarimizda ham shu hollar uchrab turmoqda. Hijob kiyadiyu o'zini ko'z ko'z qiladi, bir nechi hafta oldin hi5 ga kirib qolipman ba'zi hijoblik qizlarning rasmiga bulgan commentlani uqib juda hafa buldim "You're hot, etc" ma'nolarda ba'zilari :(.
Bir tomondan u commentlani tashlagan bola hijoblik ekan bu qiz deb hayo qilmaydi, boshqa tomondan u qiz shunday commentga sabab bulgan rasm qo'yadi :(. Har bir narsaning javobi borku ahir.

Yigitlarga savol agarda qiz bola hijobni qonun qoidalari bn kiysa, nigohini ham asrasa , erkaklarga igriviy nigohu so'zlar tashlamasa ularga shahvat ila qaraysizmi ? E'tibor jalb qilishi mumkin, hayoldan qanday kamtarin, qanday go'zal deb utishi mumkin lekin "wow hot ekan" degan hayol o'tadimi ?

Uzr qo'polroq hamda rezkiyroq gaplarni ishlatgan bo'lsam, aslida da'vatni yumshoqlik ila qilish tarafdoriman, gaplarim hech kimga botmaydi degan niyatdaman.

Infolife, judge qilmaslik bunaqa bo'ladi: har tomonlama tahlil qilish.
Mana shu post butun thread ichida objective postlardan biri bo'lsa ajab emas.

Eniga kostyum yubka kiyib ham Alloh amrini bajarish mumkin. Yetarki u yopishmaydigan, ko'rsatmaydigan bo'lsin, qoidasini bajaradigan bo'lsin. Shunda ham Alloh amri bajarilmayapti deya olasizmi? Aminmanki barcha o'ranganlar o'ranishdan oldin nima mumkin nima mumkin emas ekanligini o'rganib chiqadilar. Shu jumladan Guess ham. real_life va professor bergan ma'lumotlari juda ham o'rinli. Lekin hozirgi kiyimlar bilan ham shunday natijalarga erishish mumkin.

Bu yerdagi rasmlar asl hijobning maqsadini ko'zlamagan bo'lishi mumkin. Buni men ham oldingi postlarimda aytib o'tdim. Lekin ba'zi postlarni ichida biz turklardan o'rganmaymiz, Saudi Arabistondagilarning kiygani aniq, omdalar Alloh amrining aslini bilmaydilar, deganga o'xshash gaplar ham bo'ldi. Ana shunaqa gaplardan uzoq yurish kerak, deb o'ylayman. Agar noto'g'ri tushungan bo'lsam, tushuntiring.

Haqiqatdan ham turklarda va ko'pchilik joylarda ro'molni shu tarzda o'ralishini ko'rganman. Bular dindan ancha habardor ayollar. Ularning qilganini noto'g'ri deyish yaxshi emasligi haqida, ular ham nimagadur tayanib qilayotganliklarini bildirayotgan edim. Agar gapimni noto'g'ri desangiz, qabul qilganim bo'lsin. Hammaga Allohning o'zi insof bersin.



SMLK

P.S. bold bilan yozilgan joylariga chunonam qo'shilaman.

[Abu-Bakr]

emarat, sizning yozgan postlaringizga umuman qo'shilsamda, sizning odamlarni kuchli tanqid ostida olib, men o'rganganim, og'alarim qiladiganlari to'g'ri qolganlarnikini Alloh hohlamagan, degan gaplarning hidi urib turadi. Bu yerda gap Allohning buyrug'i haqida emas aynan ba'zilarning bu buyruqqa amal tushunish sharti bo'yicha boshqachaligi (butun dunyo bo'yicha) haqida ketayapti. Kim burqani, kim hijobni, kim chodirni gapiradi. Bu degani biri to'g'ri ikkinchisi noto'g'ri degani emas. Ingliz tilini o'qishni bilsangiz (yaxshi ma'noda aytdim) bunaqa comment yozishdan oldin boshqa odamlar tarafidan yozilgan narsalarni o'qib chiqing. Siz aytganingizdek kim Allohning buyrug'i va uning tagidagi hikmatini anglab yetayotgan ekanligini bilish Allohga havola bo'laqolsin....

SMLK

hech kimni chuqur tanqid ostiga olish niyatim yo'q garchi shunday ma'no ham kelib chiqsa. Bu gapim o'zini musulmon deb bilgan hijob va shunga o'xshash farzlarni bilgandan keyin unga bo'ysunmaganlarga qaratilgan edi. Chunki masalaga oyat va sahih hadislar bilan hujjat keltirib o'tildi. Biz Saudia va islomiy davlat deb tan olingan ba'zi mamlakatlarda hijobning qanday kiyilishiga qarab ularga ergashmaymiz. Saudia va boshqa yerlarda ham yuqorida keltirilgan rasmlardagidek kiyinadiganlar kam emas. Va shuningdek Kitob va Sunnatga muvofiq holda kiyinadiganlar ham...

lyalyaponing gaplariga qo'shilaman, hammasi step by step erishiladi. Lekin Islomning asl mohiyati, hijobning(yoki ayol kishining islomda kiyinish tartibi) boshqalar ko'z oldida bunday tushunilib qolishi kerak emas.

Iltimos, gaplarimni(yuqoridagi) ko'nglingizga yaqin olmang:), hech qanday birovni kamsitib yoki tanqid ostiga olib o'zimni oqlash niyatim yo'q.

Hammamizni Alloh o'zi to'g'ri yo'lda qilsin :amin:

with sincere respect

[Gareeb]

Ko'pchiligimiz hijob qadam ba qadam takomillashib boradi deyapmiz.Ilohim shunday bo'lsinkuya ammo hozirgi paytda teskarisini ko'ryapmiz.Ba'zi hijobda yurganlar ham Alloh saqlamasa sekin-sekin hijobini engillatib maynavozchilik qivorishyapti.Tooor shim kiyib badaninini fitna joylarini bo'rtirib boshiga ro'mol o'rab oladi.Ha endi nima qipti yalang'och yurmaganiga shukur qilaylik deydigan bo'lsak .... oxiri nima bo'larkin na'uzu billah.

[Temur]

Rasimlar umumiyetle xam yaxshi xam gozal xam joiz islami :D menin ichun rasimlardaki qizlarge oxshaygen oyol taping :D:D iltimas qilasiz, menin uylanishim qeraq yosh boldi 27 hoyot yoli'nin ortasi...

[lyalyapo]

Ko'pchiligimiz hijob qadam ba qadam takomillashib boradi deyapmiz.Ilohim shunday bo'lsinkuya ammo hozirgi paytda teskarisini ko'ryapmiz.Ba'zi hijobda yurganlar ham Alloh saqlamasa sekin-sekin hijobini engillatib maynavozchilik qivorishyapti.Tooor shim kiyib badaninini fitna joylarini bo'rtirib boshiga ro'mol o'rab oladi.Ha endi nima qipti yalang'och yurmaganiga shukur qilaylik deydigan bo'lsak .... oxiri nima bo'larkin na'uzu billah.

Balkim odamlar haqida meyoridan oshiq yahshi fikrdamanu, lekin men taniganlarning ko'pchiligida sekin sekin hijob mukamallashib borar edi, baz'i birlar ro'molni noto'g'ri kiyishganda ahir rostan ham bilmaydiku, bir paytlar "Klon" seriali chiqqandi, o'sha yerda hijoblik ayolni ko'rsatishardiyu hijobi umuman noto'g'ri o'ralgandi, keyinchalik shaharda ushanday o'raydiganlar ko'payib ketkandi, imkon bo'lsa borib sekin tushuntirishga harakat qilardim ba'zida ko'cha kuyda taniymaydigan insonim bo'lsa ham, "bilmasdim" degan javobni eshitardim ko'p hollarda. Odamlar ahir rostan ham bilmasligi mumkinku. Bunday harakatni ham oqlab bo'lmaydi, demak o'rganmayapti o'sha masalani , ilm olish esa farz(bu endi boshqa masala, chuqur kirmayman). Afsus lekin gap ta'sir qilmaydiganlar ham bor.

Turkiya masalasida kelsak, afsuski Turkiyada kattaroq ro'mol topish juda qiyin :(. Turkiyada bo'lganimizda bir turk opadan so'ragandim, nega ro'mollar yoq deb, ular hafa bo'lib aytkandila, ko'pchilik kichik ro'mollar o'rashga o'tkan, shunga kamayib ketkan, topish juda qiyin deb. Shundayam to'g'ri o'raydiganlarni ko'p uchratdim.

SMLK, Guess va boshqalar alhamdulillahi hijobga qiziqishingiz bor ekan, Allohning farzi ekanligini anglab yetibsizlar, maslahatim buni imkon qadar tezroq tadbiq qila boshlang, chunki shaytonning makri kuchlik, yodan byodan bir narsalarga cho'zdiraveradi. Alloh o'zi oson qilsin hamda shu barerni oshib o'tishga yordam bersin. :)

[SmIlIk]

Ko'pchiligimiz hijob qadam ba qadam takomillashib boradi deyapmiz.Ilohim shunday bo'lsinkuya ammo hozirgi paytda teskarisini ko'ryapmiz.Ba'zi hijobda yurganlar ham Alloh saqlamasa sekin-sekin hijobini engillatib maynavozchilik qivorishyapti.Tooor shim kiyib badaninini fitna joylarini bo'rtirib boshiga ro'mol o'rab oladi.Ha endi nima qipti yalang'och yurmaganiga shukur qilaylik deydigan bo'lsak .... oxiri nima bo'larkin na'uzu billah.

Ana asli shunaqalarga borib sekingina yotig'i bilan tushuntirish kerak. O'zingiz tushuntira olmasangiz ayolingizga aytasiz. Chunki rasmdagi modelni tanqid qilgandan ko'ra ancha hisobi kattaroq bo'ladi. Lyalyapo aytganlaridek, dilida o'ranish bo'lgan odam sizning maslahatingizni mensimasdan ketolmasa kerak. Chegaradan chiqib ketish albatta yaxshi emas. Buni ko'ra bilib turib yuzingizni ham o'girib ololmaysiz.

Hijobning aksi boshqa giysilarda ham ko'rinishi mumkin. Gap hijobning mukammallashib ketishida emas. Balki ayol kishiga qulay va zamon bilan ozgina hamnafas bo'lishida. Yana aytib o'tay; agar har qanaqa kiyim islamic dress code'dan chiqmasa uni kiyim yomon bo'lmasa keragov.

Misol:
Ayol kishi USda office'da ishlasa, u yerdagi ko'pchilik ancha ziyoli bo'ganligi uchun ro'molli ayolni hurmat qilishadi. Lekin corporate office bo'lganligi uchun hamma qatori reprezentabel'niy kiyinish bu dress code hisoblanadi. Mana shunday paytlarda ham konstyum+yubka, keng shim(tirsillagan jinsi emas) va jacketni okkuratniy ro'moli bilan o'rashadi. Menimcha buning xech yomon jo'yi yo'q.

Lyalyapo, duolarngiz uchun omin :) o'zingizni ehtiyot qiling.

SMLK

[Samar]

Uni yozaman buni yozaman deb yurgandim yozishga qulim tekkandan qarasam asosiy narsalar hammasi yozilib bo'libdi, bitta qo'shimcha qilib o'tmoqchi edim.

"Hijob" so'zi uchramaganligi haqida aytib o'tishgan ekan, O'zbekistonda hijob ni infolife etishgandan shariat buyicha kiyim deb tushuniladi, lekin ko'pchilik boshqa yerladan hijob bu ro'mol (headscarf) deb tushuniladi. UK va Tukiyada shundayligini aniq bilaman, hijab deb so'rasez hamma ro'molni ko'rsatadi.

Men uchun yuqoridagi rasmlar ro'mol reklamasiday keldi. Ba'zilari yoqdi.Ba'zilari yo'q.

Yuqoridagi bir postda ba'zi hijobdagilar hijobsizlardan ko'ra uziga kuproq jalb qiladi deb aytishipti, hijobdagi ayolda faqatgina tashqi hayo emas ichki hayo ham bulishi kerak, o'zini kamtarin tutib, nozli qarashlaru, rasmga pozala qilib berish yarashmaydi. Afsuski uzbek qizlarimizda ham shu hollar uchrab turmoqda. Hijob kiyadiyu o'zini ko'z ko'z qiladi, bir nechi hafta oldin hi5 ga kirib qolipman ba'zi hijoblik qizlarning rasmiga bulgan commentlani uqib juda hafa buldim "You're hot, etc" ma'nolarda ba'zilari :(.
Bir tomondan u commentlani tashlagan bola hijoblik ekan bu qiz deb hayo qilmaydi, boshqa tomondan u qiz shunday commentga sabab bulgan rasm qo'yadi :(. Har bir narsaning javobi borku ahir.

Yigitlarga savol agarda qiz bola hijobni qonun qoidalari bn kiysa, nigohini ham asrasa , erkaklarga igriviy nigohu so'zlar tashlamasa ularga shahvat ila qaraysizmi ? E'tibor jalb qilishi mumkin, hayoldan qanday kamtarin, qanday go'zal deb utishi mumkin lekin "wow hot ekan" degan hayol o'tadimi ?

Uzr qo'polroq hamda rezkiyroq gaplarni ishlatgan bo'lsam, aslida da'vatni yumshoqlik ila qilish tarafdoriman, gaplarim hech kimga botmaydi degan niyatdaman.

mashallah
jazakallahu

Gareeb[/b]]
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Ko'pchiligimiz hijob qadam ba qadam takomillashib boradi deyapmiz.Ilohim shunday bo'lsinkuya ammo hozirgi paytda teskarisini ko'ryapmiz.Ba'zi hijobda yurganlar ham Alloh saqlamasa sekin-sekin hijobini engillatib maynavozchilik qivorishyapti.Tooor shim kiyib badaninini fitna joylarini bo'rtirib boshiga ro'mol o'rab oladi.Ha endi nima qipti yalang'och yurmaganiga shukur qilaylik deydigan bo'lsak .... oxiri nima bo'larkin na'uzu billah.


barakallah:love:
Allah bilguvchirokdir
wallahi alam duzzahni asosiy qismini ayollar tashkil qiladi dip etishkan shu hadis nimaga asoslanib etilgan:qstn: ?:bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: jovob??
wasslama

[Abu-Bakr]

barakallah:love:
Allah bilguvchirokdir
wallahi alam duzzahni asosiy qismini ayollar tashkil qiladi dip etishkan shu hadis nimaga asoslanib etilgan:qstn: ?:bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: jovob??
wasslama

Yuqorida o'qigan bo'lsangiz 'real_life' keltirib o'ttilar bu to'g'risida:

3. Хижоб кадди-коматни намоён киладиган даражада юпка матодан бўлмаслиги керак ва кўзга ташланмайдиган тусда бўлиши лозим. Факат шу холдагина аёлнинг хакикий ўранишига (хижобланишига) эришиш мумкин. Юпка хижоб аёлни номигагина ўрайди. Аслида эса у ялангоч холдадир. Расулуллох Соллаллоху алайхи васаллам айтганлар: «Умматимнинг охирида ясан-тусан килиб кийинган – ялангоч(ярим ялангоч) бошлари туянинг ўркачига ўхшаш кийшайган аёллар бўладилар. Уларни лаънатланглар, чунки улар малъун(яъни лаънатланган)дирлар». Бошка бир хадисда бунга кўшимча равишда шундай дейилган: «Улар харгиз жаннатга кирмайдилар, хатто хидини хам хидламайдилар. Холбуки, унинг хиди бир канча масофадан туриб сезилади». Юкорида келтирилган фикрлардан маълум бўладики, нафис, харир, коматларини кўрсатиб турувчи кийим кийиш каттик, халокатли гунохдир.

va bunga qo'shimcha tarzda

Бир кун Пайғамбаримиз (с.а.в.) аёлларга: “Садақа беринг, эй аёллар, жаҳаннам халқининг кўпи хотинлардир”,-дедилар. Ўрта ҳол буғдой ранг бир аёл: “Нега ё Расулуллоҳ?”, деб сўради. “Чунки сиз кўп шикоят қилувчи, эрингизнинг яхшилигини (неъматини) инкор этгувчисиз”, дедилар”. manba: muslimaat.uz

[Ismoilzoda]

assalamu alaykum,
suratlarda hijob shartlariga mos keladigan birorta kiyim kormadim...
p.s. it's very sad that many ppl represent some modern coverings as hijab, but in fact it's just a lie about hijab


Хижоб шартларига мос келадиган кийимли аёллар суратларини топиш жудаям мушкул. Агар мажбурлаб ёки пойлаб туриб олнмаган бўлса. Чунки хижобни юкоридаги постларингиздаги (ва алохида треадингиздаги) тўлик шартларини бажариб киядиган аёллар ўзини суратга туширишга йўл кўймасликка харакат килади. Суратга тушиш харом эмаслиги хакидаги фатволарга ишонадиганлар хам бор, хамда ушбу фатволарни гумонли хисоблагани учун суратга тушмайдиганлар хам бор. Хижоб шартларига тўлик риоя килган аёллар айнан иккинчи тоифага кирадилар.

Вассаламу алайкум..


PS. Аёлларимизга ва нафакат уларга хижоб хакида керакли маълумотлар берганингиз учун Аллох рози бўлсин.

[SevenStar]

Assalamu Alaikum,

I think these "muslim women" are trying to have a freak show for the beach goers. A decent muslim woman with sane mind would not go to beach mixing with semi naked men and women.

Salamu alaikum.




[SIZE="1"]Assalamu alaikum wr wb.... no ofence to anyone but I'm absolutelly shocked by some of the pictures... Are these swimming costumes for muslim girls? Would any decent girl who respects herself jump into the swimming pool infront of man wearing these things and think it is ok as long as she is covered? Islam is not only about wearing a headscarf, it is also about modesty and not attracting men to herself...

If one really wants to swim there are plenty of resorts created for muslim females, where they can enjoy swimming in halal way.

I personally think even non-muslims would laugh if they saw muslims swimming in these costumes...
Please dear Guess do not take it personally it's just my opinion on that matter that i wished to express...;)

Assalamu alaikum wr wb...

[Qizil-Gul]

Assalamu Alaikum,

I think these "muslim women" are trying to have a freak show for the beach goers. A decent muslim woman with sane mind would not go to beach mixing with semi naked men and women.

Salamu alaikum.


Who said they are going to mixed beaches, ohhh my God people, mulsims, be little bit more open minded and think beautifully about others, be more positive, why do we always feel urge to criticize others, more than others each other.

Even if I go to same sex swimming places, I am not gonna go there in bikini (i dont know the spelling of the word), maybe these people are trying to find solution. :(


P.S:People who think of themsekves, he/she is always right, that he/she is always living right life and others don't may also be kind a ,"KIBIR", pride. God knows who will end up being what and who is doing right choices in life for sake of Allah.

[SweetHeart]

Ya vsegda hotela zakritsya,no mama govorit chto ya ne smogu s etoy (odejdi) pereyti na hijab tak srazu,no ya dumayu kogda nibud ya vsyo je odenu,mne ochennnnnn nravitsya

[JustME]

Ya vsegda hotela zakritsya,no mama govorit chto ya ne smogu s etoy (odejdi) pereyti na hijab tak srazu,no ya dumayu kogda nibud ya vsyo je odenu,mne ochennnnnn nravitsya
InshaAllah, Da pomojet Vam Allah.
Znaete po nachala tak kajetsya, perehod s odnovo vida na drugoy, na tot istenniy vid, no prenebregaya vsyakim mislyam shaytana kak to priostanovlivaemsya, A vi vozmiti posmotrite v zerkalo odente , i uvidev tot oblik prekrassnoy muslimi, vam nikogda ne zahochetsya razdet tu prelest.
vasha onajon, konechno govorit pravdu, chto mojet i budet trudno, ne dlya togo chtob vi ne odevala, prosto jizn bez trudnostey ne bivaet, hotya illusicheski tak mojet pokazatsua, no voistenno Allah milostliv.

[Strong]

Assalomu alaykum w.r w.b
I think that woman doesn't have to be attractive and that dresses which she wears must be not beatiful, consequently, men don't look at who is not beatiful, and that woman is remained unnoticeable and non-sinful

[SweetHeart]

Vi znaete u menya bratishka uchitsya v Mecheti,i odin raz ya poshla k nimu na open house vi ne predstavlyaete kak emu bilo stidno za menya, on menya umolyal govoril chto bi ya hotya bi kapyushon odela,emu 9 let mne togda tak stidno bilo chto rebyonok ponimaet luchshe menya:( ,no neznayu Hudo Hohlasa nasib kilar(InshaAllah, Da pomojet Vam Allah.
Znaete po nachala tak kajetsya, perehod s odnovo vida na drugoy, na tot istenniy vid, no prenebregaya vsyakim mislyam shaytana kak to priostanovlivaemsya, A vi vozmiti posmotrite v zerkalo odente , i uvidev tot oblik prekrassnoy muslimi, vam nikogda ne zahochetsya razdet tu prelest.
vasha onajon, konechno govorit pravdu, chto mojet i budet trudno, ne dlya togo chtob vi ne odevala, prosto jizn bez trudnostey ne bivaet, hotya illusicheski tak mojet pokazatsua, no voistenno Allah milostliv.

[dorahon]

InshaAllah, Da pomojet Vam Allah.
Znaete po nachala tak kajetsya, perehod s odnovo vida na drugoy, na tot istenniy vid, no prenebregaya vsyakim mislyam shaytana kak to priostanovlivaemsya, A vi vozmiti posmotrite v zerkalo odente , i uvidev tot oblik prekrassnoy muslimi, vam nikogda ne zahochetsya razdet tu prelest.
vasha onajon, konechno govorit pravdu, chto mojet i budet trudno, ne dlya togo chtob vi ne odevala, prosto jizn bez trudnostey ne bivaet, hotya illusicheski tak mojet pokazatsua, no voistenno Allah milostliv.

YA toje hochu,hudo hohlasa,u menya mama ne hochet toje,govorit ti ne smojesh ves' islamic code pravilno vipol'nyat',iz za etogo ya dumayu,muj ochen' hochet,Ishiqilib Allohim uzi kechirsin.Manga ham insof bersin

[JustME]

Vi znaete u menya bratishka uchitsya v Mecheti,i odin raz ya poshla k nimu na open house vi ne predstavlyaete kak emu bilo stidno za menya, on menya umolyal govoril chto bi ya hotya bi kapyushon odela,emu 9 let mne togda tak stidno bilo chto rebyonok ponimaet luchshe menya:( ,no neznayu Hudo Hohlasa nasib kilar(

VI hotite odet i stat' odny iz prekrasnih mulimah, no chto to vas priostanavlivaet, dumaete chto etot shag verin, no kak budet dalshe, znaete pered kajdim shagom vi chegoto ojidaete chudnogo i prekrastnogo. tak i etot shag , etot noviy oblik i krassa, dast vam bolshe, ved voistennu Allah udostoil vas imamom, vzglyadam Islama i ponyatiem.
Komu to hvataet 1 dya i daje cherz god osoznav i odev vi poymyote, chto vi shli tak dolgo, i chut zablujdalis.
Glavnoe poymite v glubine dushi vi je hotite odet hidjab, prikrit tu krasu kotoraya pridayot krashe vashu silu v veru.

[JustME]

YA toje hochu,hudo hohlasa,u menya mama ne hochet toje,govorit ti ne smojesh ves' islamic code pravilno vipol'nyat',iz za etogo ya dumayu,muj ochen' hochet,Ishiqilib Allohim uzi kechirsin.Manga ham insof bersin
Bir ishga qol urganizda, nega aynan shu yolni tallaganizni bilas, onajon va yaqinlaga tushuntiras, Onajonga ham davat qilib Islom yolida eng guzal ishni qilmoqchi bulganizni, hijob ga kiradgan daqiqalar enga hayajonli va shu urinda eng haqqoniy yolligini bilas.
Bir Hijob taqib kuchaga chiqganizda , undan sung hech qachon haqiqiy muslima kurinishdan ayrilgiz ham kemidi, boshida shunchaki qaris, kiyas, kuras, balki boshida vaaaaaaay yuzimga tori kemadi, qaysu kuynegimga tori keladi, magazin mall ga borsez nima olaman, qaysu romolimga turi keladi... (AstagfiruLlah) Lekin kupincha boshida shunaqa hayollar utadi, shunga ham kupla eplomisan, uzoga bormisan dishadi, lekin siz istasez , hohlasez, albatta bunga erishas, yaqinlarizga ham ispodlab, uzizdan kuch va iymonni mustahkam qilib, oynaga borib bir romol kiyin, bu birinchi shag,
Nomoz uqib bulib bir hislat bilan oynaga qarab kulib quyin, ahir Alloh bizga berilgan Iymoni va qalbimzaga Islom nurini sochgan, va dilimzadi kaliti ochu va har bir harakatimiz bilan Hijob- suziga emas balki kurinishiga ham etdik.

[lyalyapo]

Vi znaete u menya bratishka uchitsya v Mecheti,i odin raz ya poshla k nimu na open house vi ne predstavlyaete kak emu bilo stidno za menya, on menya umolyal govoril chto bi ya hotya bi kapyushon odela,emu 9 let mne togda tak stidno bilo chto rebyonok ponimaet luchshe menya:( ,no neznayu Hudo Hohlasa nasib kilar(

YA toje hochu,hudo hohlasa,u menya mama ne hochet toje,govorit ti ne smojesh ves' islamic code pravilno vipol'nyat',iz za etogo ya dumayu,muj ochen' hochet,Ishiqilib Allohim uzi kechirsin.Manga ham insof bersin

Mashaallah, ochen rada za vas, alhamdulillah hot' osoznali i ponimayete chto eto nado.
Znayete eto vsegda tak kajetsya, pered tem kak nachat' namaz dumayete, a vdrug ya ne smogu, pered tem kak nadet' hidjab toje a vdrug ne smogu. Vi predstavit' sebe ne mojete kak vam povezlo v etom plane s roditelyami/mujem (raz bratishka hodit v mechet ya sdelala zaklyucheniya chto roditeli ne protiv religiyi), samoye trudnoye kogda domashniye protiv.

Eto jizn' dana nam kak test, v techeniye jizni mi doljni mnogo chego pereodolevat, potom inshaallah nas i sudit' budut po etim veshyam, i kajdiy raz kajetysya trudno, no potom oglyadivayemsya i ponimayem chto eto stoila. Eta situaciya pohoje na : Chelovek stoit pered obrivom, emu kajetsya net ya ne doljen prigat' , ya upadu, a veleniya Allah govorit prigat', chelovek vsyo taki poslushav veleniya prigayet, da on prigayet no on ne padayet on naoborot vozvishayetsya. Takje v bivayut situaciyi kogda nam kajetsya net ne smogu, upadu , ne vipolnyu, no v takih situaciyah nado veleniya Allaha stavit' vishe i delat' po ego instruksiyam, i obyazatelno potom uvidete plodi. Shaytan toje bez dela ne sidit, vot i budet on eto pokazivat' vsyo trudneye i trudneye i budet ot vas otdalyat' i otdalayt' poka na nadenete.

Syostri dorogiye, eto Allah prikazal delat' znachet' on etogo uje hochet :) (hudo hohlayapti) :) .
Nadeyus vskore uslisham ot vas horoshih novostey, da pomojet vam Allah.

[lips]

Most women I know usually wear the hijab after marriage. Maybe those that got married have found the reason to wear. May be the single woman is still thinking... her environment..her workplace...the country she's in.......lots to think about I suppose...

[lost]

o'rgildim shu buyanib, qoshlari terib hijobsifat kiyimlarni reklama qiladiganlardanam, shu ishni supporterlaridanam, qoshnimiz pistachi Gulnora opadanam, u kishini har kuni marab odammi joniga tegadigan sigirlaridanam, hamma hammasidan.

taqsang, normalniy hijob taq. nima qilasan arosatda qolib?
konkurs krasoti' ya bu sanga.


heh...

[Alee]

Manimcha bu rasmlar hijob kiyishga hali tayyor bo'lmagan, ikkilanib turgan va imoning quvvati yetmasdan turgan ayollarga judayam foyda va turtki. Shuning uchun ja uncha o'rgilmasez bo'lardi. Noto'g'ri gapirgan bo'lsam Hudoni o'zi kechirsin.

[lost]

Manimcha bu rasmlar hijob kiyishga hali tayyor bo'lmagan, ikkilanib turgan va imoning quvvati yetmasdan turgan ayollarga judayam foyda va turtki. Shuning uchun ja uncha o'rgilmasez bo'lardi. Noto'g'ri gapirgan bo'lsam Hudoni o'zi kechirsin.

A.A.
noto'g'ri tomonga turtki qilgandan ko'ra ummuman turtki qilmagan ma'qul.
islomga, hijobga da'vat qilishni shar'iy yollari etarli.

: )

hammamizni xatolarimizni O'zi kechirsin.

[Professor]

Muslim women wear the niqab as they walk to Friday prayers at a mosque in Cairo in 1999. Cairo court ruled on Saturday that a private Egyptian university can not ban a visiting student from entering its premises in full Islamic veil, a judicial source said.
P.S. Insh'allah this is the good gesture for some moslem countries, where they ban entering universities in hijab.

[Kaptan-i Derya]

Muslim women wear the niqab as they walk to Friday prayers at a mosque in Cairo in 1999. Cairo court ruled on Saturday that a private Egyptian university can not ban a visiting student from entering its premises in full Islamic veil, a judicial source said.
P.S. Insh'allah this is the good gesture for some moslem countries, where they ban entering universities in hijab.



dont be upset but after i saw that picture i thought it is darthvader or something from the star wars :shock:

[Professor]

dont be upset but after i saw that picture i thought it is darthvader or something from the star wars :shock:
abi osmanli cokmesinin asl sebebida oydu..yani artik adamlar kendi baslarina sapmaya basladilar...ve her sey gozlerine uzay savaslari haline gelmis.
tabiiki herkesin kendine gore ducuncesi vardir.

[SmIlIk]

abi osmanli cokmesinin asl sebebida oydu..yani artik adamlar kendi baslarina sapmaya basladilar...ve her sey gozlerine uzay savaslari haline gelmis.
tabiiki herkesin kendine gore ducuncesi vardir.

Herkesin kendine gore dusuncesi olabilirde (bu yog'i o'zbekchada) lekin ba'zi bir fikrlar odamni lol qoldirmasdan bo'lmadi. Bu ekstrimdan, u ekstrimga otilishning nima keragi bor? Yana bir birimizga oshirib yubormanglar, deb o'tiribmiz. Hamma o'z bilganini maqullayveradi va shu yo'sinda yonidagi odamni turtib, o'zingga qarab ol to'g'risi mana shu, deydi. E'ronga borsen Quronda bundoq yozilgan, buni kiy deydi. Saudiada o'zgacha, Turkiyada o'zgcha, Pokistonda o'zgacha... bu forumdayam hamma gruppa, gruppa bo'lvogan. Haligacha boshim qotgan. Qanaqa qilib shunchaadan shuncha muslimalar hijob deb kiyib yurgan narsani bu yerda HIJOB emas, deb turish normal hol bo'lganiga. Gap aynan tepadagi modellar to'g'risida ketayotgani yo'q. Umuman olib gapirayapman.

[SmIlIk]

Assalamu alaykum,
the term HIJAB might not be used in Quran. However, in our daily life we use this word to mean woman's covering according to Quran and Sunnah
At least in uzbek, when someone says "hijobli qiz", a woman covered with appliance to Shariah dresscode is understood



The term used in arabic is jilbab or "jalaba" and many tafseer scholars have explained it being one single piece of cloth from shoulder to feet to cover everything apart from face and hands. It has to be thick, loose enough not to show body's shape, modest(not fancy) enough not to attract a men's attention.

Also the surah says not to display adornments (zeb-ziynat) and this doesnt mean woman's body but things like bracelets/ornamented belts and the like. Because the next line talks about adornments again and says not to reveal them from mahrams: husbands,fathers,sons,milk-sons etc. Please note that if adornment meant woman's body like you said, the verse would be saying not to reveal body from those mentioned people which is incorrect.

Cover the neck and head with veil that should be drawn over bosoms as well

All these criteries taken from Quran and Hadith(ask for proof if you want or do a research yourself) and none of the girls pictured above fall under the right category of wearing hijab. And none is judging them.We're just saying that's not the proper islamic dresscode that Allah has ordered to wear and the Prophet has explained furthermore in a number of hadiths.Amri maruf, nahiy munkar-enjoin the good, forbid the wrong. It just gives the wrong image to female users who one day want to wear hijab inshaAllah(if not covered yet:) ). Maybe, that's what the users are trying to prevent

I personally dont care what these models wear. However, when they display HIJAB, I'd like it to be displayed approporiately according to Quran and Sunnah.

infolife, mana shu yeriga oid info topolmadim man. Jilbabni men kiyim deb yurardim. Agar sizga shuni support qiladigan Sahih hadith bo'lsa, please share. Yordamingiz uchun Alloh sizdan rozi bo'lsin.

[real_life]

infolife, mana shu yeriga oid info topolmadim man. Jilbabni men kiyim deb yurardim. Agar sizga shuni support qiladigan Sahih hadith bo'lsa, please share. Yordamingiz uchun Alloh sizdan rozi bo'lsin.
Assalamu alaykum
Smilik qarshi bolmasangiz shu savolingizga men javob bersam.
Jilbab sozi kiyimdan kora koprok yopinchiqqa yaqinroq, hozirda kop hijob savdosi leksikonida bu koylak sifatida ishlatiladi lekin bu haqiqatga yaqin emas huddi hijabni romol deyishgani kabi.
Arab tilida jilbab sozi butun tanani, boshdan oyoqqacha yopib turuvchi keng yopinchiq sifatida ishlatiladi. Bu oddiy kiyimni ustidan kiyiluvchi kiyim/yopinchiqdir.
endi ushbu atamani Quron va hadislarda ishlatilishini keltiraman:
In the Quran, Surah al-Ahzab ayah 59 (33:59) says: Ya ayyuha an-Nabiyy qul li azwajika wa banatika wa nisa al-mu'minin yudnina alayhinna min jalabib hinna; dhalika adna an yu'rafna fa laa yu'dhayn. Wa kana Allahu Ghafur Rahim
O Prophet! Say to your wives and your daughters and the women of the faithful to draw their JALABIB close around them; that is better that they will be recognized and not annoyed. And God is ever Forgiving, Gentle.
The word "jalabib" is the plural of "jilbab". Clearly, this ayah states a command for Muslim women to wear a garment which Allah SWT has called "jilbab".
Beyond this, the hadiths record how the sahabiyat (rAa) went about obeying Surah al-Ahzab ayah 59 when it was revealed:
Sunan Abu Dawud Book 32 #4090. Narrated Umm Salama, Umm al-Mu'minin: When the verse, "That they should draw their jalabib close around them" was revealed, the women of Ansar came out as if they had crows over their heads by wearing jalabib.
In case there is any confusion about how the Muslim sister is supposed to go about obeying Surah al-Ahzab ayah 59, this hadith shows that the correct way to obey it is to wear the garment called "jilbab", since that is what the sahabiyat (rAa) did. Note that they did not hesitate or delay or make excuses: when they were told by Allah SWT to wear the garment called "jilbab", they did, right away.
And there is more even than this. Some of the women remained in seclusion and never went out so that they did not own the garment called "jilbab". The hadiths record that the Prophet (sAas) commanded the women to come out for the Eid gathering, and what he said about the issue of the garment called "jilbab":
Sahih Bukhari Book 8 #347. Narrated Umm Atiyya: We were ordered to bring out our menstruating women and screened women to the religious gatherings and invocation of the Muslims on the two Eid festivals. These menstruating women were to keep away from the musalla. A woman asked, "O Messenger of Allah! What about one who does not have a jilbab?". He said, "Let her borrow the jilbab of her companion".
My dear sisters, surely the meaning of this is clear enough to you. If it were halal for a sister to go outdoors without the garment called "jilbab", why didn't the Prophet (sAas) allow the women to do this? But instead, he told them that they must find the garment called "jilbab" to wear, even if they had to borrow one from a friend. The rule is plain: it is a disobedience of Allah SWT and of His messenger for a woman to go outdoors if she is not wearing the garment called "jilbab".


There is one thing that all the scholars referenced above are agreed on and that is that the garment called "jilbab" is an outergarment. Their only disagreement is in how much of the body the jilbab is to cover. How did the scholars derive that the jilbab is an outergarment? There are two ways to do this. First, they might just look up the definition of the word "jilbab" in a dictionary of classical Arabic. Second, they might verify for themselves by intelligent analysis of the Quran that the jilbab is an outergarment. We can look at both of these sources.

What is the defintion of the word "jilbab" in Arabic?
The definitive dictionary of classical Arabic, Lisan al-Arab by ibn al-Mandhur, provides the following definition, "The jilbab is the outergarment, mantle, or cloak. It is derived from the word tajalbaba, which means to clothe. Jilbab is the outer sheet or covering which a woman wraps around her ON TOP OF HER GARMENTS to cover herself from head to toe. It hides her body completely" (Lisan al-Arab, volume 7, page 273)

The dictionary Al-Qamus al-Muhit by Abu Tahir al-Fayruzabadi provides the definition, "The jilbab...is that which CONCEALS THE CLOTHES like a cover"

The dictionary Al-Sihah by Jawhari provides the definition, "The jilbab is the cover and some say it is a sheet. Jilbab has been mentioned in the hadiths with the meaning of sheet, which the woman WRAPPED OVER HER CLOTHES"

Intelligent Analysis of the Quran 1: An argument why the jilbab is not just modest clothing but must be an OUTERGARMENT
Quran Surah an-Nur ayah 31 (24:31) reads as follows:

Wa qul li al-mu'minat yaghdudna min absarihinna wa yahfazna furujahunna wa laa yubdina zenatahunna illa maa zahara min haa wal-yadribna bi khumurihinna ala juyubihinna; wa laa yubdina zenatahunna illa li bu'ulatihinna aw aba'ihinna aw aba'i bu'ulatihinna aw abna'ihinna aw abna'i bu'ulatihinna aw ikhwanihinna aw bani ikhwanihinna aw bani akhawatihinna aw nisa'ihinna aw maa malakat aymanu hunna aw at-tabi'ina ghayri ulu'l-irbat min ar-rijal aw at-tifl alladhina lam yazharu ala awrat an-nisa wa laa yadribna bi arjulihinna li yu'lama maa yukhfina min zenatahinna. Wa tubu ilaAllahi jami'an, ayyuha al-mu'minun la'allakum tuflihun

And say to the faithful women to lower their gazes, and to guard their private parts, and not to display their adornment except what is apparent of it, and to extend their headcoverings (khimars) to cover their bosoms, and not to display their adornment except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband's fathers, or their sons, or their husband's sons, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their womenfolk, or what their right hands rule (slaves), or the followers from the men who do not feel sexual desire, or the small children to whom the nakedness of women is not apparent, and not to strike their feet (on the ground) so as to make known what they hide of their adornments. And turn in repentance to Allah together, O you the faithful, in order that you are successful.

This ayah lists a number of things that Muslim sisters are to do:

1) Lower the gaze (from looking at what is haram to be seen of men).

2) Guard the private parts. This means not to let them be seen or touched by who is haram to see or touch.

3) Conceal all of the body and its decorations except "what is apparent of it". Most scholars are agreed that the face and the hands are "what is apparent of it". Some scholars say that only the eyes are "what is apparent of it". See also point 5 below.

4) Wear a khimar (headcovering) and extend it to cover the bosom. This means that it covers the hair, the neck, the shoulders, and the upper chest.

5) That the husband, mahram relatives, women, slaves, male servants who do not feel sexual desire, and children are the only people who can see more of the woman than "what is apparent of it".

6) Not stamp the feet or otherwise act so that what is hidden becomes known to others.

It can clearly be seen from this analysis that Allah SWT in Suran an-Nur ayah 31 already commands a woman that when non-mahram men are present, she is to wear clothing that is loose and opaque plus a headscarf (referred to in the Quran as khimar) so that with these garments, she covers everything but her face and her hands. If this were all that was necessary, why has Allah SWT also revealed Surah al-Ahzab ayah 59? For this reason, the garment called "jilbab" that has been commanded in Surah al-Ahzab ayah 59 must be something in addition to the modest clothing. The only obvious interpretation is that the garment called "jilbab" is some type of outergarment, something that is worn on top of the modest clothing commanded in Surah an-Nur ayah 31.

davomi (http://www.muhajabah.com/jilbab.htm)

[Abu-Bakr]

real_life, jazakumullahu khairan
Alloh ilmingizni bundan ham ziyoda qilsin, Din yo'lidagi harakatingizga Rabbim o'zi buyuk ajrlar bersin.

[SmIlIk]

Assalamu alaykum
Smilik qarshi bolmasangiz shu savolingizga men javob bersam.
Jilbab sozi kiyimdan kora koprok yopinchiqqa yaqinroq, hozirda kop hijob savdosi leksikonida bu koylak sifatida ishlatiladi lekin bu haqiqatga yaqin emas huddi hijabni romol deyishgani kabi.
Arab tilida jilbab sozi butun tanani, boshdan oyoqqacha yopib turuvchi keng yopinchiq sifatida ishlatiladi. Bu oddiy kiyimni ustidan kiyiluvchi kiyim/yopinchiqdir.
endi ushbu atamani Quron va hadislarda ishlatilishini keltiraman:
In the Quran, Surah al-Ahzab ayah 59 (33:59) says: [INDENT] Ya ayyuha an-Nabiyy qul li azwajika wa banatika wa nisa al-mu'minin yudnina alayhinna min jalabib hinna; dhalika adna an yu'rafna fa laa yu'dhayn. Wa kana Allahu Ghafur Rahim

Dear real_life, thank you for the response.
I read this article before and unfortunately this was the only article on net to talk about Jilbab in this context. Clearly jilbab is a piece of clothing (not necessarily one piece). But what I do not understand is even if modern clothing fullfils the requirement of islamic adornment, it is still not welcomed by most of our forum users. Clearly, I am no scholar but I will investigate this issue as much as I can for the name of those who does not necessarily wear one solid idea of jilbab (which means so many things according to so many cultures).

In case of this particular article: It does not include arguments g iven by some or most of the scholars on this issue stating that jilbab is interpreted in the meaning of the word according to our time and that there were no remaining example of it from times of our prophet to make example from. Or that muslimas of that time did not have current capabilties and technology to make something more of what they were wearing.

In the end Allah knows the best and if he wills we will wear jilbab as described in article you provided or if he wills we will be able to seak other types of adornments which in many muslim women's mind is enough to fulfill the requirement. In any case I would call muslim sisters and brothers to pray for the true meaning of everything to be kept sacred and make a dua for every other muslim sister to find the right path without being forced or brainwashed in doing so. I hope Allah forgives me if I am being wronged and vice versa. Hence, non of us know 100% if our doings are 100%. Otherwise, Islam wouldn't have fallouts like we witness almost every day.

[JustME]

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[infolife]

Real_Life, yana bir bor Alloh rozi bolsin.
Aslida Quran va Sunnatdagi jilbabdan keyin bu mavzuni davom qilishga umuman hojat qolmagandi. Wa billahit Tawfiq

Jilbab so'ziniyam har tomonlama tahlil qilib beribsiz. Ilmingizni bundan ham ziyoda qilsin.Jilbab haqida shu va siz ochgan threadda toliq malumot berildi deb oylayman.Shariatni jilbab haqida hukmi shu. bunga unamagan insonni Allohga osiy bolgan johil deyishadi. Johillar bilan bahs qilish foyda olib kelmaydi.ojiz bandamiz, doim ozimizga bahona qidirishga shoshamiz. Albatta Alloh korguvchi va bilguvchi zot kimni qalbida nima bor.Hammamizniyam Haq Yo'lda barqaror qilsin

ps:2kundan beri mehmondamiz.ornimga javob berganiz uchun rahmat:)
Belka qizizni opib qoyinga.

[Joha]

Allah rozi bo'lsin barcha opa singillarmizdan. Savol berib iznaluvchi va javob berib charchamayapkan opa singillarimiz yanada koproq bolishini Allah swt sorab qolamiz.

[Odildustov]

Kelin oyimla muslima ayolni kiyinishini tariflaganlarida hijobdan tashqari yana bir narsani aytib utuvdila. Uzun kuylagiga "bel bog' " tortishi uzi harom devdila. manashuni esimda qolgan. Va paygambarimiz AW ning ohir zamonda "yalangon kiyinganlar" deb tariflab bergan kiyinishidan hudo saqlasin.

[real_life]

Dear real_life, thank you for the response.
I read this article before and unfortunately this was the only article on net to talk about Jilbab in this context. Clearly jilbab is a piece of clothing (not necessarily one piece). But what I do not understand is even if modern clothing fullfils the requirement of islamic adornment, it is still not welcomed by most of our forum users. Clearly, I am no scholar but I will investigate this issue as much as I can for the name of those who does not necessarily wear one solid idea of jilbab (which means so many things according to so many cultures).

In case of this particular article: It does not include arguments given by some or most of the scholars on this issue stating that jilbab is interpreted in the meaning of the word according to our time and that there were no remaining example of it from times of our prophet to make example from. Or that muslimas of that time did not have current capabilties and technology to make something more of what they were wearing.

In the end Allah knows the best and if he wills we will wear jilbab as described in article you provided or if he wills we will be able to seak other types of adornments which in many muslim women's mind is enough to fulfill the requirement. In any case I would call muslim sisters and brothers to pray for the true meaning of everything to be kept sacred and make a dua for every other muslim sister to find the right path without being forced or brainwashed in doing so. I hope Allah forgives me if I am being wronged and vice versa. Hence, non of us know 100% if our doings are 100%. Otherwise, Islam wouldn't have fallouts like we witness almost every day.
Smilik i am trying to understand the point u don't understand. I didn't want to go so deep as people of banu Israil did. But i want the point of hijab according to sahih daleels to be clear for u, and want to understand the reason of your resisting, is it because of not understanding or not wanting to understand.
About first bold sentence, in fact, it is not the only article dealing with this context, in this page there are dozens of links that interpret the meaning of jilbab. i ll copy/paste it for convenience:

What do the scholars say about the garment called "jilbab"? I have provided above evidence from the Quran and Sunna that it is fard for the Muslim sister to wear the garment called "jilbab" when she goes out from her house. This is not just my opinion but the opinion of most of the scholars (ulama). The next question is: what type of garment is the jilbab? There are two opinions among the scholars on this matter:
1) That it is a loose outergarment like a coat or cloak.
2) That it is a sheet covering the entire body except for the eyes.
Notice that neither of these opinions mentions "conservative clothing" or "loose clothing" nor does either opinion say "shalwar kameez are OK".

Section A: Verification that these are the two opinions of the scholars
Some well-known modern scholars who support the first opinion
1) Shaykh Yusuf Qaradawi (Shafi'i) - see Women's Awrah (http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/Q_LP/ch3s1pre.htm#Women%27s%20%27Awrah) - Qaradawi describes the jilbab as "a loose outergarment"
2) Shaykh Muhammad Nasir ad-Din Albani (Salafi) - Shaykh Albani had written an essay called "Women's Dress". Unfortunately, that web page seems to have vanished. He describes the jilbab as "an outergarment that is thick and opaque and covers the clothing under it and the woman's form".
Some well-known modern scholars who support the second opinion
1) Syed Abu-Ala' Maududi (Hanafi) - see Introduction to Surah al-Ahzab (http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/maududi/mau33.html#S33) - Maududi describes the jilbab as an "outergarment covering the face".
2) Shaykh Abdul-Aziz ibn Baz, Chief Mufti of Saudi Arabia (Salafi) - see The Danger of Women at Work (http://www.themuslimwoman.com/herrole/dangerofwomenatwork.htm) - Ibn Baz describes the jilbab as "covering all of the body except the eyes".
Some webpages that support the first opinion

(http://www.islamzine.com/hijab/shari32.html)
Hijab: How It Protects And Benefits (http://eudoxus.usc.edu/fahmad/pub/Quran/Hijab1.html) - The jilbab is "a large loose overcoat".
The Islamic Hijab (Cover for Muslim Women) (http://www.islam1.org/khutub/Hijab.htm) - The jilbab is "a dress that covers the whole body of a woman from top to bottom...worn over her normal clothing".
Must a Muslim Woman Hide Her Face? (http://www.understanding-islam.com/rs/s-084.htm) - The jilbab is "a large cloak".
The Quraanic Concept of Hijaab (http://www.understanding-islam.com/articles/society/hijaab.htm) - The jilbab is "a large cloak".
Road to Hijab (http://www.themuslimwoman.com/HerDress/RoadtoHijab.htm) - The purpose of the jilbab is "...to cover the clothes a woman wears in her house".
Women in Islam (http://www.islamiska.org/e/chap3.htm) - The jilbab is "an outergarment, a cloth that covers a person from head to foot". Some webpages that support the second opinion
Different Rulings in Favor of Niqab (http://www.alsalafyoon.com/EnglishPosts/niqqab.html) - The jilbab is "a sheet...covers her body except one eye".
Evidences on an-Niqab (http://www.angelfire.com/ma/AdhaanulMuminaat/niqab.html) - The jilbab is "a cloak that covers her entire body so that nothing appears of her but one eye".
Niqab (http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Plaza/8909/niqab.html) - The jilbab is "a loose outer cloak which totally conceals her entire body including her face".
Niqab: According to Quran and Sunnah (http://www.muttaqun.com/niqab.html) - The jilbab is "a loose outergarment that covers all of a woman's body...over her head and her face".
Niqab an Act of Obedience (http://www.almuminoon.org/majida/niqab.htm) - The jilbab is "a cloth which covers the entire body from head to toe including the face".
Niqaab in Light of Quran and Sahih Hadith (http://members.tripod.com/ibnfarooq/niqaab.htm) - The jilbab is "a cloak covering the entire body including the face and hands".
Hijaab - Women's Dress Code and Conduct (http://www.inter-islam.org/Actions/Hijbdu.html) - The jilbab is "the outer sheet or cloak worn in such a way as to cover her entire person from head to toe including the face".
The Second Category of Hijaab (http://www.shariah.net/hijaab/second_category_of_hijaab.htm) - The jilbab is "a cover from head to foot

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as for your next statement, what do you mean by saying not necessarily one piece? in what combination do you think it can be? please clarify this point.

which clothes do you mean by modern clothing that fulfills the requirement of islamic hijab? can you describe that modern clothing with examples?

I am not talking about cultures, but real islamic commandments, i think we shouldnt deal with cultures while discussing this issue.

what do u mean by this statement, even if there is no examples left from that times we have so many years muslim countries and muslims that adhere islamic clothing, we have so many scholars who know Quran and ahadeeth and can explain us what is what, more over i have given the interpretations of the word from classic arabic dictionaries, which is almost the same language as in Quran and ahadeeth. Are not these enough to derive what exactly this thing is? Or should we reject all these and stay in the opinion that there is no examples and we dont know what exactly it is?

As for the technology statement it is completely out of question, for i have explained everything that doesnt leave a room for such arguments. It s not about cultures and technologies, pls understand its about Allah's commandments, and giving such argument is just "bahona".

pls dont take my words offensive, i am just trying to clarify the issue.
and to all your duas i say ameen!
wassalamu alaykum

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Real_life
I just looooove the way you express yourself.simple and clear and with so many evidences. MashAllah, well done.

one more point I'de like to mention
none of us is perfect and we never say our doings is 100%correct. But Shariah rules are 100%. Islam is perfect and what Allah has commanded is perfect 100%. We-as muslims-have to submit. We hear,listen and accept.

Smilik, I dont understand why you have to look the word "jilbab" in different contexts and cultures. Look what Shariah says about it,simple is that. And when a muslim sister shows the right way of doing something, it is unjust to point her a finger and say "You cant say that because your doings arent 100%"

Alloh ilmiga amal qiladiganlardan qilsin hammamizni ham. Ibodatni shariatga muvofiqmi muvofiq emasmi qilaveradigan johil obidlardan, haq kelganda qabul qilmaydigan keyin Qiyomat kunida barmog'ini tishlab qoladigan zulm egalaridan qilib qoymasin.omiyn.