Grajdanskiy Brak V Uzbekistane

[Princess Z]

Skajite, kak vi otnosites k grajdanskomu braku v Uzbekistane????
Podelites svoim mneniem, kto za, a kto protiv?I pochemu???

[Royal]

Skajite, kak vi otnosites k grajdanskomu braku v Uzbekistane????
Podelites svoim mneniem, kto za, a kto protiv?I pochemu???
otnoshenie k grajdanskomu braku s kakoe tochki zrenie

[Princess Z]

otnoshenie k grajdanskomu braku s kakoe tochki zrenie
Vopros zvuchit tak: Kak vi otnosites k grajdanskomu braku v Uzbekistane??Kakie vi vidite v etom voprose plusi i minusi??? Esli est chto skazat, podelites svoim mneniem.

[Princess Z]

V nastoyashee vremya v Uzbekistane ochen mnogo par probuyut pojit grajdanskim brakom, etu temu mojno rassmotret s raznih storon. Kto to schitaet chto neploho bilo bi uznat drug druga poblije, tem samim pojit v grajdanskom brake, uvidet sovmestimost dvuh storon vo vseh sferah, no ni dlya kajdoy uzbekskoy sem'i eto priemlimo, kak vi schitaete????Nujen li etot grajdanskiy brak???

[Royal]

V nastoyashee vremya v Uzbekistane ochen mnogo par probuyut pojit grajdanskim brakom, etu temu mojno rassmotret s raznih storon. Kto to schitaet chto neploho bilo bi uznat drug druga poblije, tem samim pojit v grajdanskom brake, uvidet sovmestimost dvuh storon vo vseh sferah, no ni dlya kajdoy uzbekskoy sem'i eto priemlimo, kak vi schitaete????Nujen li etot grajdanskiy brak???
vopros kak to bez smisla...pochemu potomu chto vopros otnositsa k opredelyonnomu territoriyu s opredelyonnim nravami....

grajdanskie brak vsegda schitalsa nujnim tolko dlya zakona, a tak vse mogli obhoditsa tolko religioznim brakom - no chto religioznie brake ne oformlyayutsa po zakonu, tak kak zakonadatelstva UZB ne priznayot i ne peredusmotreno nigde ob religioznom brako sochetanie i/ili registratsiya.

[lilbit]

esli eto brak, v smisle sozdanie sem'i, to nichego plohogo!

esli eto brak v smisle defekt, to . . . huje ne bivaet!

[Princess Z]

esli eto brak, v smisle sozdanie sem'i, to nichego plohogo!

esli eto brak v smisle defekt, to . . . huje ne bivaet!
Nu razumeetsya para jelala bi sozdat semyu, no predpochitayut v nachale pojit vmeste grajdanskim brakom, vse taki v sluchae chego, legche razbejatsya.

[Princess Z]

There must be a botton which means "useless post". Right now I need one. :D
So do you think it is better to live together before marriege??? Or it is not acceptable for you????

[Princess Z]

Lichno ya schitayu, grajdanskiy brak pomogaet nam opredelenno vibrat togo cheloveka, s kem tebe budet horosho. Pojiv vdvoyom, mojno uznat sovmestimost vashu. U nas ochen mnogo za poslednee vremya kolichestvo razvodov iz za nesovmestimosti par. No sdrugoy storoni, jit s kajdim v grajdanskom brake- toje ne delo, a uj tem bolee v nashey strane. Nado vse-taki priderjivatsya musulmanskih pravil i tradiciy. Kak vi schitaete, pravilno li ludi delayut chto jivut v nachale grajdanskim brakom?????

[Maroon]

Ya za grajdanskiy brak!!

Pozje obyasnu pochemu.

[JoJ]

Nu razumeetsya para jelala bi sozdat semyu, no predpochitayut v nachale pojit vmeste grajdanskim brakom, vse taki v sluchae chego, legche razbejatsya.

...nado otmetit shto ne vse grajdanskiyi braki zakanchivayutsa brakom ili broke upom. Ya znayu ochen mnogo lyudey, u kotoih est deti i vse esho jivut v grajdanskom brake.

[yuhakseng]

Ну зачем мучитьса люди добрые, любишь- женись на неё, естьли не уверен, нет. О чем еще можно говорить?

Вот такая у меня железная логика.

[Glance]

I am very against civil marriage. That conradicts religious ethics and most of the human made laws.

The most significant and important part of the whole marriage is how it is registered. For me importance of religious nikah is doubtless. Registering marriage according to country rules comes far next and is worth having registered in order not to break that country's rules.

A person should be careful while chosing a partner, consider all aspects of life and character of the person (get to know each other)..

As for me, I don't need to live with some one if i want to know him more. Talking to him, watching his actions in different situations is enough for me to undrestand whether we suit each other or not. Sometimes even one word is enough to understand that you were born to be together :D or vice versa :)..

[lilbit]

Nu razumeetsya para jelala bi sozdat semyu, no predpochitayut v nachale pojit vmeste grajdanskim brakom, vse taki v sluchae chego, legche razbejatsya.
ya vsegda govoryu odno: nikakoi shtamp v passporte ne uderjit menya ryadom s kakim libo chelovekom!

[Magnolia]

I look at it this way (looking mostly at american society)

1.people live together as "engaged" couple for 5-6 years
2.have couple of kids during that time
3.finally get married
4.six months later they get divorce...

why?if you have lived with that person for 6 years why after registration in cityhall you feel as if you are being robbed of your freedom?
Makes sense? not really :)
so how come its ok to live in civil marriage?
btw in our culture it is usually judged and looked down upon...:)

P.S. if you dont have the guts to legalize and get into commitment then don't bother with civil marriage as well,because it is commitment for life (kids) as apposed to commitment on paper ("штамп в паспорте")
P.P.S. I dunno the situation of "гражданский брак" in UZB but in TM it was day-to-day routine :?

[Princess Z]

I am very against civil marriage. That conradicts religious ethics and most of the human made laws.

The most significant and important part of the whole marriage is how it is registered. For me importance of religious nikah is doubtless. Registering marriage according to country rules comes far next and is worth having registered in order not to break that country's rules.

A person should be careful while chosing a partner, consider all aspects of life and character of the person (get to know each other)..

As for me, I don't need to live with some one if i want to know him more. Talking to him, watching his actions in different situations is enough for me to undrestand whether we suit each other or not. Sometimes even one word is enough to understand that you were born to be together :D or vice versa :)..
Right, I am agree with you, but sometimes you are sure a 100% that you are doing properly choice, you think you know this person for years and be happy with all his actions but unfortunately after marriage everything is changing. And you are asking yourself "Who is this guy"?????? It is not that person that i knew him for long time!!! That is really interesting point.......

[Maroon]

You can never know a person fully. Even if you date him for 10 years, there always will be a situation, good or bad, where you will see another side of your partner.

[munisa]

You can never know a person fully. Even if you date him for 10 years, there always will be a situation, good or bad, where you will see another side of your partner.

Ayajonim doim shunaqa deydi.......................

Ne ojiday i ne obijaysya - dadangni haligacha bilmaymanku - deb qo'yadi :lol:

ON:

GB v Uzb....Rabotaet,,,, kak vse ostal'nie ustanovlennie sistemi.

[Princess Z]

I vse je interesno poluchaetsya, po bolshomu schetu mujchini chashe podderjivayut Grajdanskiy Brak, Jenshini na eto smotryat inache, dlya mujchin ne vsegda vajna eta shtampovaya pechat kak vajno dlya jenshini. Navernoe ogromneyshee znachenie v etom voprose dlya jenshini eto imet' titul "JENI", a mujchine legche v luboe vremya sebya nazvat MUJEM i bez rospiski.

[Magnolia]

You can never know a person fully. Even if you date him for 10 years, there always will be a situation, good or bad, where you will see another side of your partner.

words of wisdom :D
no matter how much you claim to "know" person there are always situations where that person will act differently or make different choices and they might not be what you expected

I vse je interesno poluchaetsya, po bolshomu schetu mujchini chashe podderjivayut Grajdanskiy Brak, Jenshini na eto smotryat inache, dlya mujchin ne vsegda vajna eta shtampovaya pechat kak vajno dlya jenshini. Navernoe ogromneyshee znachenie v etom voprose dlya jenshini eto imet' titul "JENI", a mujchine legche v luboe vremya sebya nazvat MUJEM i bez rospiski.

I guess the stamp in the passport gives a woman a sense of security for tomorrow (btw I dont see how that works since the divorces are so usual and easy to get :?)
For a man a stamp means "клеймо/хомут" :lol:

[lyalyapo]

Po zakonu Uzbekistana jit' v grajdanskom brake nelsya

[Princess Z]

words of wisdom :D
no matter how much you claim to "know" person there are always situations where that person will act differently or make different choices and they might not be what you expected



I guess the stamp in the passport gives a woman a sense of security for tomorrow (btw I dont see how that works since the divorces are so usual and easy to get :?)
For a man a stamp means "клеймо/хомут" :lol:
THAT'S RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!:)))))))))))
Dlya nih eto kak bojee nakazanie!

[Princess Z]

Po zakonu Uzbekistana jit' v grajdanskom brake nelsya
Soglasna, poetomu mnogie i pryachutsya po storonam i jivut taykom:)

[Glance]

I agree, you might not know a person fully..

After getting married if you start to think that "in reality" he's completely different person, or he starts to irritate you, you can easily divorce. According to islamic law, a person can divorce if he/she wants to. (if it's lady, she asks her husband to let her go, and he must do it. If it's guy he should say that 3 times, and that's it). As i told before, the most important thing for me is religious sides of the issue.

So, if you want to break up, no problem. Go ahead. Again, no need for civil marriage.

Nikah (may be stamp as well :)) gives sense of security to a woman
and great feeling of responsibility and pride to a man :D

[Magnolia]

I agree, you might not know a person fully..

After getting married if you start to think that "in reality" he's completely different person, or he starts to irritate you, you can easily divorce. According to islamic law, a person can divorce if he/she wants to. (if it's lady, she asks her husband to let her go, and he must do it. If it's guy he should say that 3 times, and that's it). As i told before, the most important thing for me is religious sides of the issue.

So, if you want to break up, no problem. Go ahead. Again, no need for civil marriage.

Nikah (may be stamp as well :)) gives sense of security to a woman
and great feeling of responsibility and pride to a man :D

Agree,
As I said if you dont have the guts to commit on "paper" then dont commit in life...b/c kids do happen even in civil marriage :lol:

P.S. strongly against!

[Gareeb]

Grajdanskiy brak nima zags qilinmagan nikohmi?

[lyalyapo]

Grajdanskiy brak nima zags qilinmagan nikohmi?
:lool: Shunaqa desayam buladi :P
To'g'rirog'i umuman nikohsiz, zagsiz, boyfriend girlfriend bup yashash.

Bizda zags nikohdan yarim yilcha keyin bulganda, hujaynimga prikol ushirdim grajdanskiy brakda yashavommizmi deb :P, ulani yomoooon jahllari chiqardi.

[Sirena]

Grajdanskiy brak nima zags qilinmagan nikohmi?
Shunaqaroq :) Lekin nikoh bo'lsa GB hisoblanadimi yoqmi bilmiman, qaysi nuqtai nazardan kelib chiqib qarashga bog'liq, davlat tomonidan qaralsa Gb hisoblanadi, Islom tarafidan qaralsa umuman boshqa ma'nolar kelib chiqadi, nikohsiz yashash bo'ladi.
Grajdanskiy brak desa bo'ladimi bilmiman, birga yashash, sojitel'stvo desak to'griroq bo'ladi, O'zbekistonda "manimcha" bir marta bo'lsa ham uylanmaganlar kamdan kam GB da yashasa kerak, yashasa ham keyinchalik yo o'sha qizga uylansa kerak (balki?, sovsem ne uverena) yo ko'pchilik holda ota onasi uylantiradi boshqasiga, shunday qilib ham Zags dan o'tgan oilasi va Zags dan o'tmagan oilasi bo'ladi. Bu holda zagsdan o'tmagan ikkinchi hotin GBda yashayotgan bo'lib chiqadi.
Gap shundaki O'zbekistonda kamdan kam oila to'ysiz nikohsiz oila quradi, Zags bo'lmasa ham diniy nikoh bo'ladi. O'zbeklar uchun obro' e'tibor, atrof muhitni gap so'zi juda muhim. Shuning uchun "hozircha" o'zbeklar GB ga salbiy qaraydi deb o'ylayman

[gulya_21]

A chto plohogo v grajdanskom brake,esli oba lyubyat drug druga to pochemu bi i net ,neujeli chtobi bit' vmeste nujen shtamp v pasporte,eto nujno vsego lish dlya formal'nostey,a sushnost vse ravno v oboih sluchayah odinakova,
u nas tupie tradisii,kotorie nelzya rasional'no obyasnit',iz za etogo eshe rabo jenyatsya i delayut srazu rebenka ne dumaya chto budet s nimi zavtra ,voobshem oblom,nado menyat' soznaniye nashih lyudey!

[Superior]

Nashemu obshestvu chto grajdanskiy brak, chto shtamp v passporte odin fig.
Eto vse pokazuha s Nikohom, i shtampami samouspokoeniem dushi zanimautsya, a esli posmotret realno, to mujskoe nasilenie imeyut po 2 3 4 jeni, i ni kakogo shtampa, i nikakogo nikoha, a doma imeyut pridmet dlya obshestvennogo uvajenia "JENA" nazivaetsya. A pochemu, a potomuchto tak NADO, potomuchto roditeli i socium trebuet etogo, i nado ne oblajatsya. Za to rassujdat s penoi u rta na eti temi , kak eto vse amoralno, ploho, i voobshe protiv religii, eto pojalusta.
Ili je dlinnaya lapsha naushi devushki, chto on eyo lyubit i jit bez neyo ne mojet, i chto tut net nichego takogo, esli oni budut jit do tipa svadbi, potomuchto vse ravno pojenyatsya, a potom v odin den on ey govorit, chto ego jenyat na drugoi i on ne mojet soprativlyatsya roditelyam, eto normalno, ne amoralno. absurd koroche.

Poetomu daje esli razreshit (esli mojno tak skazat) etot grajdanskiy brak, nichego eto ne izmenit, esli tolko ne uhudshit.

[Mr.Bit]

Po zakonu Uzbekistana jit' v grajdanskom brake nelsya
otkuda takoi zakon??? :D)))))


ne zakon gor eto sluchayno???

[glamur]

Skajite, kak vi otnosites k grajdanskomu braku v Uzbekistane????
Podelites svoim mneniem, kto za, a kto protiv?I pochemu???
boje v uzbekistane eto vozmojno tolko tem komu po koleno mneniya obshetva ved u nas jivut lydi s mislyu karindoshlar nima dide?koshnilar? toysiz kanak boladi? i eto pugaet nash mentalitet ne gotov k takim perevorotam,,,,

[gulamus]

tratatatatatatata tratatatata dib otib tashash kerak ieeeeeeeee orgildim... ;)
Grajdanskiy brakmush, hoy Allohni oldida javobgarsan, ZINO qivosan birodar NIkohadan otmasang, lubop shmubop o'tib ketadi Allah hapa bolsa lekin tomom uka sinding... Chiroylik qilib etib qoyibdi DURRRRRAAAAAK bolma bandam.. Uylan, oila qur man rizqini, barakeni beramaaaaaaan..
Bolar bolmas garb value larini kiritaslarmi yeeey..
hurmat ila
GA

[Пушкарева]

"grajdanskiy brak" it is the soviet definition of GF and BF living together, isnt it?

Skajite, kak vi otnosites k grajdanskomu braku v Uzbekistane????
Podelites svoim mneniem, kto za, a kto protiv?I pochemu???

[lilbit]

"grajdanskiy brak" it is the soviet definition of GF and BF living together, isnt it?
it's definition of family in which man and woman are living together without registering their relationships.

GF and BF is just BF and GF

[Пушкарева]

o velikiy vojd, vi uj prostite menya temnuyu, no ya ne viju nikakoi raznici mejdu maen and woman living together without registering their relationship and bf and gf living together and having same sort of relationship.

it's definition of family in which man and woman are living together without registering their relationships.

GF and BF is just BF and GF

[lilbit]

o velikiy vojd, vi uj prostite menya temnuyu, no ya ne viju nikakoi raznici mejdu maen and woman living together without registering their relationship and bf and gf living together and having same sort of relationship.
Budochka, skol'ko ti znaesh' BF/GF relationships, kogda u nih i deti i dom i sem'ya i t.d. obshee ???

[Пушкарева]

polnim polno takih vokrug.

Budochka, skol'ko ti znaesh' BF/GF relationships, kogda u nih i deti i dom i sem'ya i t.d. obshee ???

[lilbit]

kstati znayu primer Grajdanskogo braka, kotoriy na moih glazah dlilsya 14 let. U nee bilo 2 detey do nego i odin ot nego, i nichego, jili. A to, chto seychas nazivaetsya Bf/Gf - eto grubo povalaylis' vmeste i vsyo! Vsyo interesnoe, t.e. responsibility, nachinaetsya u nih posle registration

[lilbit]

polnim polno takih vokrug.

ah daaa, ti j v US :D)))) Zdes' esli chestno ya ne znayu skol'ko takih

[PainKiller]

Esli lyubish', to shtamp pshtamp farki yok. Esli nelyubish', hot' i so sta shtampami v passporte i eshe gde mira nebudet v dome.

[lilbit]

Painkiller, 100 raz prava. Hot' gde-to nashol kogo-to, kto razdelyaet moi vzglyadi ;)

[SweetHeart]

A chto tak toje mojno?Daje ne prihodilos dumat o takih semyah,pomoemu eto ne pravilno