Rinat Dasayev is a Muslim

[UzLand]

Не знал я этого. Вчера ему исполнилось 50 лет. Вот только узнал.

http://dynamo.kiev.ua/Press/interv_b.htm

- Вы - мусульманин. Во времена Союза проблем из-за вероисповедания не было?

- Были. Тогда даже в христианство не позволяли верить, что уже говорить об исламе? В начале карьеры меня преследовали. Потом сыграл свою роль мой авторитет - первый номер "Спартака" и сборной все-таки. Я открыто исповедовал любимую религию. В сетку ворот ставил сумочку, куда вкладывал запасные вратарские перчатки и Коран.

[Emil_Diniyev]

Rinat Dasayev is an Tatar TURK. And of course muslim.


Rinat Fayzrakhmanovich Dasayev (Russian: Ринат Файзрахманович Дасаев) (born June 13, 1957 in Astrakhan, Soviet Union) is a Russian former football goalkeeper of Tatar ethnicity.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rinat_Dasayev

[UzLand]

В честь Дасаева заключили мировую

Вчера в “Лужниках” состоялся матч, посвященный 50-летнему юбилею легендарного голкипера Рината Дасаева. В нем встретились сборные ветеранов СССР и остального мира. Игра проходила по усеченному регламенту — 2 тайма по 35 минут — и закончилась со счетом 5:5 (Буряк, 5-п, Родионов, 14, Бородюк, 51, 56, 66; Пеле, 2, Руфер, 16-п, 19, Веа, 21, Польстер, 55). Звезды остального мира имели преимущество. Это легко объяснимо: средний возраст “советской” команды приблизительно на 10 лет больше. В первом тайме Дасаев защищал ворота сборной СССР, после перерыва поменял команду, а в середине второй половины, передав капитанскую повязку Андони Субисарретте, покинул поле. В игре принял участие и наш соотечественник Сергей Алейников. Причем он выступал на несвойственной для себя позиции защитника.

http://www.pressball.by/news.php?t=0101&id=19269

[UzLand]

Rinat Dasayev is an Tatar TURK. And of course muslim.

Not all Tatars are Muslims. There are many baptized Tatars too. Also I should have never thought that during the Soviet time, Dasayev, even if he were a Muslim, would carry Koran with him.

[Octavarium]

Alsu is a Muslim, too -- well at least was a Muslim before she got married, not sure if she hasn't converted to Judaism, though. Zemfira is a Muslim, too. Malcolm X also was a Muslim.

[_uSu_]

Govoryat chto Michael Jackson tozhe hochet prinyat islam..., u nego brat muslim, vot on ego, navernoe, i ubezhdaet stat musilmaninom.

[abcd]

Sergey Aleynikov is not uzbeki, :cool: В честь Дасаева заключили мировую

Вчера в “Лужниках” состоялся матч, посвященный 50-летнему юбилею легендарного голкипера Рината Дасаева. В нем встретились сборные ветеранов СССР и остального мира. Игра проходила по усеченному регламенту — 2 тайма по 35 минут — и закончилась со счетом 5:5 (Буряк, 5-п, Родионов, 14, Бородюк, 51, 56, 66; Пеле, 2, Руфер, 16-п, 19, Веа, 21, Польстер, 55). Звезды остального мира имели преимущество. Это легко объяснимо: средний возраст “советской” команды приблизительно на 10 лет больше. В первом тайме Дасаев защищал ворота сборной СССР, после перерыва поменял команду, а в середине второй половины, передав капитанскую повязку Андони Субисарретте, покинул поле. В игре принял участие и наш соотечественник Сергей Алейников. Причем он выступал на несвойственной для себя позиции защитника.

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[Emil_Diniyev]

Hmmmm do u guys know Anatoly Banishevski :d He was greatest scorer after Blokhin in soviet and he was Azeri :d. Well he was not Azeri TURK etnithicy but he was an Azeri slav.

[nemets]

Not all Tatars are Muslims. There are many baptized Tatars too. Also I should have never thought that during the Soviet time, Dasayev, even if he were a Muslim, would carry Koran with him.
do you have any statistics to claim there are many baptized Tatars? I guess there are as many baptized tatars as baptized uzbeks.

[Abu-Hafiza]

Govoryat chto Michael Jackson tozhe hochet prinyat islam..., u nego brat muslim, vot on ego, navernoe, i ubezhdaet stat musilmaninom.
On uje 20 let hochit stat' musulmaninom :lool:

do you have any statistics to claim there are many baptized Tatars? I guess there are as many baptized tatars as baptized uzbeks.

I recently seen a tatar movie (dont remember the name of it, somehting like Jamila or something of that sort) and it was showing forced christianisation of tatars, very touching film. I didnt know that many tatars were forced to accept christianity all the way from the times of Grozniy.

[lilbit]

On uje 20 let hochit stat' musulmaninom :lool:



I recently seen a tatar movie (dont remember the name of it, somehting like Jamila or something of that sort) and it was showing forced christianisation of tatars, very touching film. I didnt know that many tatars were forced to accept christianity all the way from the times of Grozniy.
many tatars also were forced to accept Islam, so . . .stop this discussions, please!

[Emil_Diniyev]

Tatars is TURK and Muslim so finish it her.

[Karayılan]

I recently seen a tatar movie (dont remember the name of it, somehting like Jamila or something of that sort) and it was showing forced christianisation of tatars, very touching film. I didnt know that many tatars were forced to accept christianity all the way from the times of Grozniy.That's true. Kazan and Cyrimea saw sad dayz after r.u.s. Ethnicially and religionally Tatars saw the hardest asimilation policy from r.u.s among other Turks...

[Abu-Hafiza]

many tatars also were forced to accept Islam, so . . .stop this discussions, please!
lilbit

first of all, I am not discussing, there was a statement by UzLand, nemets asked the question and I only told about the movie I have watched.

Secondly do you have any proof of tatars being FORCED to accept islam?

Thirdly the forcing to accept christianity was very different from what you might come up with. If you watch that movie, you would understand what I am talkign about and by the way, movie I think was called Zileyha

[lilbit]

Salafi!
I don have a proof, coz am not a specialist and did not live in those times. But all magor religion were forced in order to be accepted! Read history of them!

So telling that acceptance of christianity was forceful, one should mention that with Islam it was not so quiet either.

[Abu-Hafiza]

Well, you have to read it again brother especially acceptance of Islam by tatars, mongolian golden horde, caucasus, indonesia, malasia and many many more examples

And besides we are not discussing the history so no need to get pissed off here.

[UzLand]

That's true. Kazan and Cyrimea saw sad dayz after r.u.s. Ethnicially and religionally Tatars saw the hardest asimilation policy from r.u.s among other Turks...

Catherine the Whore was behind the christinization of the Tatars.

Nemets, read the history and you won't even need the statistics. There are much more Christian Tartars than Uzbeks.

[Sigma]

Кстати, Иван Грозный пошёл войной против своих же; его мать была татарской княжной. Так же и род графов Юсуповых, самая влиятельная и богатая семья после императорской, были крещены в православие из Ислама. Сам Феликс Юсупов писал в биографии что якобы ихний род ведёт своё начало от сподвижника Пророка.
Родовое проклятие князей Юсуповых (http://www.rian.ru/zabytoe/20061018/54913755.html)