The Wine Thread

[The Reaper]

Here's (http://www.colourlovers.com/blog/2007/08/07/wine-color-guide-for-quality-and-age/) a link to a guide to wine colours, what they say about its quality and age.

Personally, I'm more of a beer/whiskey guy, and therefore not that familiar with wines. However, I'd definitely like to hear from those who know more about this subject.

TOPIC: What is your favorite wine? What are the best/worst combinations of wine and meals? What factors should one consider when purchasing a bottle of wine in order to fully enjoy it?

[Demir Kağan]

Ttt, never drink wine when smoking. :D But it rocks with pizza.

[StU]

ya bolshaya poklonnica krasnogo vina ;). Kak pravilo deystvuet osnovnoy princip: krasnoe vino k temnomu myasu, beloe - k ribe, k svetlomu myasu.

Razlichayutsya vina na stolovie i kachestvennie - ne znayu pravilno li ya perevela na russkiy (na nem. - Qualitätswein). Pri etom - suhoe vino schitayetsya bolee iziskannim i dorogim. Chem slashe vino - tem deshevle.
Nu i razumeetsya moi lubimiy sort - Bordeaux... i samie luchshe vina - iz Franciyi. No est zamechatelnie sorta takje v Germaniyi, Italiyi i Chili.

Ne berus govorit za znatoka, no po-moemu kachestvennoe krasnoe vino na stenkah bokala nekotoroe vremya ostavlyaet razvodi, a ne stekaet kak voda. :? Da i eshe vino pyut, ne glotaya srazu - chtob vo rtu razvilsya vkus...

[alpum]

Вино саммый вредный из спертных напитков - если пить регулярно или больше одного бакала за присест.

он, особо сильно действует на печень, чем водка, пиво, вистки. особено плох красное вино.

поэтопу предпочитають пить хорошую водку,

вино можно - иногда и не много, один бокал за вечер

[Tokugawa]

Ttt, never drink wine when smoking. :D But it rocks with pizza.
It depends, but naaaah. With pizza it's beer.

Wine cellar in my living room... Vezunchik knows it :)

[StU]

tem kto ne razlichaet perepoy i degustaciyu - v etot thread mojno principialno ne zahodit... ;)

[alpum]

tem kto ne razlichaet perepoy i degustaciyu - v etot thread mojno principialno ne zahodit... ;)

Пальцем показвать не будем... на алкашей)))

[StU]

Пальцем показвать не будем... на алкашей)))

da peyte luchshe vistki :P

[alpum]

da peyte luchshe vistki :P

как хорошо мы разбираемся в названиях спиртных напитков... браво

[Tokugawa]

Честно говоря, рекламировать алкоголь - не понравится многим знающим меня друзьям на форуме.

Но вино имеет отдельное место. Щас наверно Немец-ака сюда забредет и всё досконально напишет, так что остальные долго не смогут прийти в себя :)

Для меня вино - ассоциируется с Грузией.

[Vezunchik]

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soglasen. vino dlya organizma odin iz sami`h opasni`h napitkov.:rolleyes:

[Vezunchik]

It depends, but naaaah. With pizza it's beer.

Wine cellar in my living room... Vezunchik knows it :)


cho menya komprometiruyesh???? ya daje ne otkri`l etot chertov chujbinu!!!!:evil::uups::uups::rolleyes:

[StU]

vino - ochen blagorodniy napitok i v pravilnih kolichestvah ne tolko ne vredit, a eshe i ukreplyaet zdorovye. (posmotrite na gruzin - sredi kogo bolshe vsego dolgojiteley?) Osobenno vino polezno k obedu - sposobstvuyet pishevareniyu, a pered snom - krepkomu i zdorovomu snu.

Tak naprimer - daje v stolovih francuzskih universitetov studentam na obed podayut bokal stolovogo vina. Nu uj ne znayu naskolko ono otrajaetsya na ih znaniyah :D.

[alpum]

vino - ochen blagorodniy napitok i v pravilnih kolichestvah ne tolko ne vredit, a eshe i ukreplyaet zdorovye. (posmotrite na gruzin - sredi kogo bolshe vsego dolgojiteley?) Osobenno vino polezno k obedu - sposobstvuyet pishevareniyu, a pered snom - krepkomu i zdorovomu snu.

Tak naprimer - daje v stolovih francuzskih universitetov studentam na obed podayut bokal stolovogo vina. Nu uj ne znayu naskolko ono otrajaetsya na ih znaniyah :D.

Да и в обед и на ужин... хм а потом в 50 лет подтяжку лица делать....

А грузины живут долго потому что живут в горах, а не потому что пьют вино
У нас в узбекистане в горах люди живут тоже до 100 лет и без вина...

И не надо спаивать студентов, и вообще понятие женского пития и муржского это разные веши
женщина может понюхать вино и ей хватить
а вот по мужски то обязателно надо пропустить пору бакалов)))

[The Reaper]

Alpum: You're not helping here. We're trying to create a thread about wine, and I think anyone with at least basic level of intelligence understands that ANY alcoholic beverage is harmful when consumed in excessive amounts.

Let's move along with the thread!

TR

[alpum]

Alpum: You're not helping here. We're trying to create a thread about wine, and I think anyone with at least basic level of intelligence understands that ANY alcoholic beverage is harmful when consumed in excessive amounts.

Let's move along with the thread!

TR

Да, давайте по теме, но вы видите что некоторые леди, своими намеками провацируют на токого рода отношений.
Не знаю одни правокаторы... я не хотел если чесно...
сорри за офтоп

[nemets]

Всё что вы покупаете в магазинах по цене ниже 7-8 баксов, я предпочитаю выливать в раковину, ну на крайняк иногда в готовку уходит при тушении мяса.
Самые лучшие вина которые я пил- это самоддельные. Самое лучшее вино в моей жизни- это настоящая самоддельная Кванчкара из Грузии.
Я бы не пожалел 50-ти баксов сейчас за литр этого вина. Да да, ту которую ногами грузинки месили и в дубовых бочках держали для себя, а не для продажи. То есть тюнинговый вариант- а не серийный.

Самые НЕлюбимые серийные вина в доступных ценовых пределах (до 15-20 баксов) для меня- немецкие и франзуские.
Самы любимые в доступных ценовых пределах - испанские, южноафриканские, португальские, в общем те, где много солнца.
Самое лучшее дешёвое серийное вино, которое я пил- узбеккий Амар Хаям.
Потом расскажу почему плохи серийные вина.
А пока посмотрите, как я люблю пить выдержанное испанское немолодое терпкое вино с хорошо выдержанным Хамоном
http://www.ljplus.ru/img/k/a/kashnich/IMG_7627.jpg

Я в последнее время предпочитаю пить редко(раз в неделю или две бокал), но очень качественное вино. Всякие уксусные 2-х евровые Кабернеты на дух теперь не переношу.

[Frida]

(раз в неделю или две бокал)

:lol: not very clear, nemis aka.


Всякие уксусные 2-х евровые Кабернеты на дух теперь не переношу.

with this i have to agree. i have a stomach problem, "povyshennay kislotnost'" so I cannot really do more than one glass of red wine, but the worth is when it is that horrible, cheap, and "kisliy" wine :( that makes my stomach go crazy. Lately started getting white wine, especially considering that I am not a big "red meat" person, it works with fish or chicken stuff I make. also it seems it has less acid to me -- i am not sure though. please share your info, opinion and comments about white wine, please.

nemets --- that "hamon" is spanish smocked ham, right? i've heard that they make the best ones in Andalusia or somewhere there.

[nemets]

:lol: not very clear, nemis aka.




with this i have to agree. i have a stomach problem, "povyshennay kislotnost'" so I cannot really do more than one glass of red wine, but the worth is when it is that horrible, cheap, and "kisliy" wine :( that makes my stomach go crazy. Lately started getting white wine, especially considering that I am not a big "red meat" person, it works with fish or chicken stuff I make. also it seems it has less acid to me -- i am not sure though. please share your info, opinion and comments about white wine, please.

nemets --- that "hamon" is spanish smocked ham, right? i've heard that they make the best ones in Andalusia or somewhere there.

Белое или красное- разницы нет. И красное и бело могут быть и хорошими и плохими. Кислотность в винах появляется из отчасти эфирных масел, которые выделяются из косточек при их раздавливании. В промышленном производстве тяжело добиться невыделения ненужных продуктов в вино.

Про Хамон я писал у себя в ЖЖ. Лучший - это из Иберии
http://kashnich.livejournal.com/6035.html
Вот он (да прости меня Аллах :)) красавчик
http://www.ljplus.ru/img/k/a/kashnich/IMG_7617.jpg

[Demir Kağan]

By the way, if you visit Turkey or if you have any chance to find the Turkish Wine: "Doluca", try it. ;)

[Karayılan]

What is your favorite wine? Kopek Olduren :lol::lol::lol:

I'm sure that it is Demir Kagan's choose as well. Demi la? :lol:

[Shambles]

Frantsuzy delyat vina na tri kategorii: krasnoe, beloe i rozovoye (rosee)... V krasnom vine mnogo energii - poetomu yego chasto rekomenduyut bol'nim i oslablennim lyudyam... Beloe vino, kak uje bylo skazano vyshe, horosho idet s ryboy i belym myasom... Rosee schitayetsya desertnim, no mne ono opredelenno ne nravitsya... Mojet s neprivychki...

Samoe sil'noe vino, kot. mne dovelos' otvedat' eto gruzinskaya "Hvanchkara" kakogo-to elitnogo rozliva...

Dlya lyubiteley i neznatokov vina mogu dat' odin sovet... yesli Vy glotnuli vina i Vam ne hochetsya yego nemedlenno proglotit', bolee togo, ono ostavlyayet vo rtu priyatniy vkus - to eto vino horoshee...

Peyte tol'ko horoshee vino i jivite dolgo...

[Vezunchik]

izvenite no ya ne ponimayu odnu vesh.
Vino Hvanchkara delayetsya tolko v odnom sele v Gorah Gruzii (kotori`y nedavno zatopilo Sel i tam v blijayshee 2-3 goda svejego vina uj tochno ne budet.).
Obyom proizvodstvo etogo sela 20 000 dekalitrov (esli esho ne menshe). iz etogo obyoma gdeto 50% raspredelyayetsya po vsey EU i US. 25% pyut sami Gruzini` i ostalnoe rashoditsya po lutshim restoranam i Kollektsionarem vsego SNG.

to est gdeto 5 tonn Vina Hvanchkara mojno nayti lutshih kollektsiyah VinoLyubiteley SNG.

A to chto, Gruziya eksportiruyet vsemu miru millioni` dekalitrov Hvanchkari` - eta Brend name , no ne samo Vino Hvanchkara. Prosto eti vina ochen pohoja na Hvanchkaru kogda molodi`e , no cherez pol goda mojno zametit bolshoe razlichie ot Originala.

p.s.

Ne ujeli vse nashi useri` imeeyut dostup originalnomu Hvanchkara, kotori`y obi`chno ne prodoyotsya v magazinah, a mojno lish poprobi`vat u havastlivogo oblodatelya takogo Dobra, gde to pogrebe v domah Rublyovki ili gdeto esho... Nu togda ya shlyapu snimayu pered vashimi vozmojnostyami...:P:P:P

[nemets]

izvenite no ya ne ponimayu odnu vesh.
Vino Hvanchkara delayetsya tolko v odnom sele v Gorah Gruzii (kotori`y nedavno zatopilo Sel i tam v blijayshee 2-3 goda svejego vina uj tochno ne budet.).
Obyom proizvodstvo etogo sela 20 000 dekalitrov (esli esho ne menshe). iz etogo obyoma gdeto 50% raspredelyayetsya po vsey EU i US. 25% pyut sami Gruzini` i ostalnoe rashoditsya po lutshim restoranam i Kollektsionarem vsego SNG.

to est gdeto 5 tonn Vina Hvanchkara mojno nayti lutshih kollektsiyah VinoLyubiteley SNG.

A to chto, Gruziya eksportiruyet vsemu miru millioni` dekalitrov Hvanchkari` - eta Brend name , no ne samo Vino Hvanchkara. Prosto eti vina ochen pohoja na Hvanchkaru kogda molodi`e , no cherez pol goda mojno zametit bolshoe razlichie ot Originala.

p.s.

Ne ujeli vse nashi useri` imeeyut dostup originalnomu Hvanchkara, kotori`y obi`chno ne prodoyotsya v magazinah, a mojno lish poprobi`vat u havastlivogo oblodatelya takogo Dobra, gde to pogrebe v domah Rublyovki ili gdeto esho... Nu togda ya shlyapu snimayu pered vashimi vozmojnostyami...:P:P:P


Меня Хванчкарой угощал тренер грузинской сборной по горнолыжному спорту за кое какую помощь в Германии. Его родители живут в той самой Хванчкаре и он привёз это вино в большом пластиковом герметичном пакете с краником. Попробовав его, я понял, что Хванчкара в магазинах - фуфло, как и большинство других грузинских вин. Хванчкары много быть не может и соответсвенно нарваться на настоящую- это удача большая.

У моей жены есть подружка - красавица полячка, и как -то я, когда мы только встречались, угостил их всего по одному бокалу(150 мл) обоих за хорошим ужином, которое я приготовил. Вино пилось как сок- легко, но девчонок так разнесло, что их можно было брать руками "тёпленькими". Как мы тогда не нагрешили, сам удивляюсь. :lol:

[lilbit]

...Вино пилось как сок- легко, но девчонок так разнесло, что их можно было брать руками "тёпленькими". Как мы тогда не нагрешили, сам удивляюсь. :lol:
raskaji, ne stesnyaisya! ;)


Kaliforniyskoe vino kto nibud' pil? iz Napa valley. Kak ya znayu eto vino vigralo u Franzuskih vin zvanie na samoe luchshee vino v mire. Provodilas' degustaciya vo Francii, goda 2-3 nazad.

Mne nravitsya Shabli Shato (ne nayu kak pravil'no pishetsya) kotoriy ya poproboval v samoi vinodel'ne na na visote 1500 metrov. Jaleyu chto ne privez s soboi pobol'she.
A voobshe . . . lyublyu vino, kotoroe delaet otec. Uchitivaya chto ono ne kreplennoe, bashnyu mne ot ne srivaet bistro :)

[Vezunchik]

Меня Хванчкарой угощал тренер грузинской сборной по горнолыжному спорту за кое какую помощь в Германии. Его родители живут в той самой Хванчкаре и он привёз это вино в большом пластиковом герметичном пакете с краником. Попробовав его, я понял, что Хванчкара в магазинах - фуфло, как и большинство других грузинских вин. Хванчкары много быть не может и соответсвенно нарваться на настоящую- это удача большая.

У моей жены есть подружка - красавица полячка, и как -то я, когда мы только встречались, угостил их всего по одному бокалу(150 мл) обоих за хорошим ужином, которое я приготовил. Вино пилось как сок- легко, но девчонок так разнесло, что их можно было брать руками "тёпленькими". Как мы тогда не нагрешили, сам удивляюсь. :lol:

Ya Stanislavskiy, po etomu mogu tvyordo skazt - Veryu, Veryu!!!:P:P:P

nemets, nu obyazatelno - da, putat Jensshin na temu Vino?? nu niiiiiikak nelzya eti dve razni`e kategorii obsujdat po otdelnosti- da??? :P:P:P jk

[nemets]

Ya Stanislavskiy, po etomu mogu tvyordo skazt - Veryu, Veryu!!!:P:P:P

nemets, nu obyazatelno - da, putat Jensshin na temu Vino?? nu niiiiiikak nelzya eti dve razni`e kategorii obsujdat po otdelnosti- da??? :P:P:P jk

Сорри, что то меня не в ту степь занесло, хотя если вернуться в прошлое, я до сих пор не уверен, как бы я себя там опять повёл :lol:

Всё всё заканчиваю, я женатый человек, джентельмен и папа.:)

[Vezunchik]

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eta odna iz sammi`y dorogih i bolshih magazinov Vin v Tokyo (posetil kogda delat nechego bi`lo i jdal Tokugawa) v Yeibisu Garden Palace.

tam etogo kaliforniyskogo, afrikanskogo, israilskogo , ispanskogo i daje chiliyskogo bi`lo navalom. No ne bi`lo Kavkazskogo i Uzbekskogo...

[Vezunchik]

Сорри, что то меня не в ту степь занесло, хотя если вернуться в прошлое, я до сих пор не уверен, как бы я себя там опять повёл :lol:

Всё всё заканчиваю, я женатый человек, джентельмен и папа.:)


na schet Djentelmena anekdot :

u armyanskogo radio sprashivayut:
- Kto takoe Djentelmen??
- nuuuu, takoy Dobri`y, Taktichni`y, Vejlivi`y Mujchina i v otlichi nashih armyan, ne obijayet Damm....
- horoSho uMnik, taagda sleduyushiy voprosik. Esli u etogo porshivogo Djentelmena ryadom saditsya Dammmmma, i budet boltattttt do 3 chi`sov nochi o glupi`h i nevajni`h veshah, yavno namekaya na chto to Razumnoe.... Chto doljen sdelat etot bedni`y Djentelmen-aaa??
- .....hmmmm, Araaa, ti` vo-pervi`h ne Djentelmen, i ne stanish im, vizu ne dadut. Vo vtori`h, vremya seychas vsego lish bez 15 dva nochi, a ne 3... i v Tretih, esli hochesh usli`shat ot menya Blogoslovleniya , to ne dojdyoshsya.... Cho hochesh to i delay, a utrom otprav v redaktsiyu pismo s podrobnostyami ot "Djentelmena...".....:P:P

soryyyy za off-top.:P

[Tokugawa]

Меня Хванчкарой угощал тренер грузинской сборной по горнолыжному спорту ...

Eto kto-kogo pereplyunet? :)
Menya (t.e. nas neskol'kih Uzbekov) Viktor Onopko ugoshal Vodkoi, a my yego Kinzmarauli (v russkom restorane Baikal, v Tokyo). Uje na vysokih gradusah, kogda on skazal chto sil'no drujit s Mirjalolom i Andreyem (Pyatnitskim), u nas beseda poshla v stile "Viktor aka, ty menya uvajaesh'?" :D:D:D

[Vezunchik]

Eto kto-kogo pereplyunet? :)
Menya (t.e. nas neskol'kih Uzbekov) Viktor Onopko ugoshal Vodkoi, a my yego Kinzmarauli (v russkom restorane Baikal, v Tokyo). Uje na vysokih gradusah, kogda on skazal chto sil'no drujit s Mirjalolom i Andreyem (Pyatnitskim), u nas beseda poshla v stile "Viktor aka, ty menya uiajaesh'?" :D:D:D


LOLOLOLOLO:P

a MENYA ugoshali v Vene nachalnik Yuridicheskogo Departamenta MinFIn Gruzii i zampred TsB Armenii svoimi shtuchkamiiii. No ne pomnyu i nazvanie i tsveta.....:lol::P

utrom mi` drug drugu skazali chto vsyo ponravilos, hotya ne hrena ne pomnil, tak kak, posle Gostepriimstva pomoshnika Grefa (iz Rossii) nam bi`lo tri`n tri`nva..... zemlya v illyuminatore.... :P:P

kto bolshe?????

p.s.

bo`ldi yeee , yig`ishtirila maqtanishniiii, maynavozchilk qivordilayuuuu:P

[mana sizga]

Hi guys , please just chill out !!!!!!!!!!!

Some time ago I was dealing with this type of job at intercontinental London during my student year as bartender ( tirikchilik))))))))) )
I would like to share my experience if you do not mind
This topic rather interesting who thinks its beneficial in his daily life or it depends on his own lifestyle. Anyway
There about 1000 verities of wine grapes in worldwide and out of this there are more than 300 types wines
To make easier to understand the classification of wines we can divide them mainly into 3 categories:
1. Table wines. Its also called natural wines and its consumed mostly food and good match for specific meal ( example: Chatou latour, Kendel Jackson chardoney)
2. Fortified wines. These type of wines are mostly consumed before or after the food and for cooking ( example: Sherrys , Vermouth “ cinzano, martini” and its perfect match for cocktails such as Dry martini, Vodka Martini
3. Sparkling wines. Champagnes and Bruts these type of wines are recommended festivals, birthdays and parties Note: Champagne means the wine from Champagne region in France

Table wines are further classified by color, as red, white, or rose (pink); and by character, as sweet or dry. Red wines are made from the skins of dark grapes. White wines may be
made from “white” (that is, green) grapes or from dark grapes, but with white wine the grape skins and pressed juice do not come into contact unlike” red” wine. True rose
wines are the products of dark grapes; their skins remain in contact with the juice only until it has turned into a pale pink.

There is one more wine we call it “Rose wine”, this is accepted as “wine of the night”

Despite there are traditional wines such Greek “OZZO”, Japanese “SAKEY” and etc.

So nashie milie dami bolshinstvo predpochitayut polu suhoye ( chardoney) Beloe vino ili 70% sladdchee ( reizling) I cocktail “ Fazy navel, White Russian and Uznek special margarita”))))

East and west Uzbekistan is best deb gapni tugata qolay chunki ichishni hech kimga tavsiya qilmayman I ozim ham ichmayman hudo hohlasa)))) agar manaviyatimizga qarshi u bu gap otgan bolsa oldindan uzr va hammalaringa sogliq salomatlik qilab qoluvchii “” mana sizga” chill out gusy chilllllll:D:D:D

[eBouncer]

I like Riesling wines: white, light and slightly sweet

[Vezunchik]

East and west Uzbekistan is best deb gapni tugata qolay chunki ichishni hech kimga tavsiya qilmayman I ozim ham ichmayman hudo hohlasa)))) agar manaviyatimizga qarshi u bu gap otgan bolsa oldindan uzr va hammalaringa sogliq salomatlik qilab qoluvchii “” mana sizga” chill out gusy chilllllll:D:D:D


to`ppa to`g`ri 2 yildan beri biz ham Vino-pinoladan uzomiz....:uups::uups::uups::uups::uups:

[Legend]

"Khvanchkara" and "Kindzmarauli" are the favourite ones, both semi-sweet and are available in our local market :).
All I drink is wine actually, very rarely any other kind of alcohol.
Those red wines are good with any meat meal(steaks, kebabs and so on).
Don't know about white wine much, coz not a big favourite of it,but sometimes drink White Zi (Zinfandel) coz of a semi sweet flavour.Maybe post more later.

[StU]

Ponyatno chto u vina kak i u shampanskogo est svoi cenovie kategoriyi: kto-to pyet sovetskoe polusladkoe, a kto-to iskluchitelno Moët & Chandon.

Kstaty - nemets mestnost Stuttgartskaya, gde ti projivaesh toje ved bogata na vina (belie) - nu i kak oni tam?

Iz togo chto ya probovala v rayone Rhein-Hessen ochen ponravilos - yagodnoe - Beerenauslese, pokupala ego v chastnom vinnom pogrebe...

[NYyankNY]

I love Wine :)
Only Drink Lunch time "20.oz Steak 2 Glass of (CHATEAU) Red wine
Blieve me you well Enjoy rest of the day :D

[MDB]

I always wanted to drink the Wine which was produced in between 14th and 18th centuries...But this have not happened yet(it will)...Have you guys tried such a Wine?If yes what year was Wine produced?By which family?What kind of flavor?Did it taste different?

[Royal]

"Khvanchkara" and "Kindzmarauli" are the favourite ones, both semi-sweet and are available in our local market :).
All I drink is wine actually, very rarely any other kind of alcohol.
Those red wines are good with any meat meal(steaks, kebabs and so on).
Don't know about white wine much, coz not a big favourite of it,but sometimes drink White Zi (Zinfandel) coz of a semi sweet flavour.Maybe post more later.

kto-to kogda-to pisal:

- "V Gruzie sorta Vin delyatsa na 3:
1. Dlya Exporta, sort: Pervie
2. Dlya Moskvi, sort: Vtaroe
3. Dlya sebya, sort: Tretaya..

a sami gruzini nikogda ne upotreblyali plohuyu vino...."

[Oyaji]

white meat - white wine, red meat - red wine :D

about hazzard of wine: university of columbia or smth after years of research found that people having upto 2 glasses of wine a day showed healthier heart than those who had other alcoholic beverages and even than those who had nothing! :D

i read it in some article sometime ago, unfortunately that article said nothing about it's effect on liver, stomach and other parts of mail/femail/email body :D

me likes dry wines, sweet wines no good. however me greately enjoyed this wine-tasting of Massandra Wine Company in Crimea this summer (дегустационный зал завода Массандра) where the guide-lady told many interesting things about wine with poems between sessions from some famous and not-so-famous Persian poets . Great stuff! :D

unfortunately all massandra wines were sweet, like Port, Heres, Madera, Cagor, etc.

Here are some pics :D

[Kolobok]

I've done some consultancy work for a new wine company just recently had to do loads of tasting and I've noticed that Argentinian wines are doing very well. However,my favorite is still Pinot Noir.

[Maroon]

I like Pinot Gris/Pinot Grigio, and Riesling.

I do not really like Chardonnay.

With red wines I prefer Pinot Noir.

I like Californian wine as well. I enjoy the wines of Ernest & Julio Gallo.

When it comes to champagne I like Veuve Clicquot and Louis Roederer Cristal.

I want to learn more about wine, I am still of a beginner.

Have you ever watched Sideways? Because there is this adorable moment which I absolutely love.

Here are some quotes:

- Why are you so in to Pinot?

- Uh, I don't know, I don't know. Um, it's a hard grape to grow, as you know. Right? It's uh, it's thin-skinned, temperamental, ripens early. It's, you know, it's not a survivor like Cabernet, which can just grow anywhere and uh, thrive even when it's neglected. No, Pinot needs constant care and attention. You know? And in fact it can only grow in these really specific, little, tucked away corners of the world. And, and only the most patient and nurturing of growers can do it, really. Only somebody who really takes the time to understand Pinot's potential can then coax it into its fullest expression. Then, I mean, oh its flavors, they're just the most haunting and brilliant and thrilling and subtle and... ancient on the planet.


- What about you?

..............................

- How it's a living thing. I like to think about what was going on the year the grapes were growing; how the sun was shining; if it rained. I like to think about all the people who tended and picked the grapes. And if it's an old wine, how many of them must be dead by now. I like how wine continues to evolve, like if I opened a bottle of wine today it would taste different than if I'd opened it on any other day, because a bottle of wine is actually alive. And it's constantly evolving and gaining complexity. That is, until it peaks, like your '61. And then it begins its steady, inevitable decline.

[Kolobok]

I have always wondered, how come Uzbekistan doesn't produce quality wines that could get into Western market. I've seen some amazing vineyards back at home,yet no production.
Kazakhstan produces Snow Queen Vodka, that has taken UK market by storm and it's challenging Grey Goose and Belvedere. No offence,but Kazakh people tend to be a bit lazy comparing to other Central Asian nations,yet they succeed in whatever they lay their hands on.
And finally on champagne, Veuve has fallen into the worst category last week when we held a blind tasting among 30 other champagnes. Top tree were DP,DP Rose and Tattinger.