Are you gonna go back home?

[lilbit]

The question is, are going to go back home if situation changes, you'll be paid well enough to live and will be treated accordingly to respect yourself?


The question for those who graduating, graduated or planning to do it abroad. It would be better to consider such an option that our home country asks for our help ASAP (of course after graduation).

[satik]

There are people who say "My home is where my ass is in comfort".
Why should we go home only after everything is all right?
Why not try to improve the situation ourselves?
Motherland is loved not for its welfare, it is loved because it is Motherland.
Personally I don't see my future out of Uzbekistan, and will return as soon as I get my diploma.

[Royal]

lilbit

do etogo toje bilo i eto vrode 1001 aya post ob etom voprose....

[bacha]

Why use the conditional? So that everyone will answer `yes`? The answer you like?

[The MINUSCULE MAN]

in 2 weeks :) can't wait for it :)))))))

[bello]

Manimcha sharoitning ozgarishini kutib otirish notogri fikr deb oylayman
Sharoitning ozgarishi sizu bizga bogliq hozirgi sharoitda, shuning uchun chet elda olingan tajribalarni sekin asta vatanga olib ishni boshlash kerak, inshaolloh daraht bir erda koaradi degan gap bor risqu nasibamiz boladi

[p@lgish]

Even if home doesn't kneel and beg one to come back it is one's duty to contribute to the prosperity of the nation.
When it comes to "paid well enough", my opinion is that money might not be the main intensive when one really wants to do something for her/his people.
As for "will be treated accordingly to respect yourself" let me quote M.Abdurashidkhonov: 'Xaq berilmas, olinur'. Lots in how people treat a person depend on her/himslef.

[anchio]

ya edu domoy bezuslovno.
ay keep on loving you more!!!

[benq35]

The question is, are going to go back home if situation changes, you'll be paid well enough to live and will be treated accordingly to respect yourself?


The question for those who graduating, graduated or planning to do it abroad. It would be better to consider such an option that our home country asks for our help ASAP (of course after graduation).

Без слов! я вернусь всегда когда понадобиться помощь моей родине.
но только для того чтобы помочь

[Prince]

Manimcha sharoitning ozgarishini kutib otirish notogri fikr deb oylayman
Sharoitning ozgarishi sizu bizga bogliq hozirgi sharoitda, shuning uchun chet elda olingan tajribalarni sekin asta vatanga olib ishni boshlash kerak, inshaolloh daraht bir erda koaradi degan gap bor risqu nasibamiz boladi



Yani? Kelasi xafta biet olib uchib ketaman dimoqchimisiz? Daraxtni Kochat Pochati bilan olib , oborib Amir Temur Haykali Yoniga Ekasmi? Yo OQsaroy tarafgami?

On: lekin gapizda jon bor! togri gap! Rizq Ollohdan! borib ishlasez! kam bolmaysiz!

[Пушкарева]

I liked most of the answers. Good for your guys.

[Sag'bonlik_qiz]

The question for those who graduating, graduated or planning to do it abroad. It would be better to consider such an option that our home country asks for our help ASAP (of course after graduation).

Для того чтобы вернуться в страну в глубоком кризисе надо задвинуть эгоизм подальше. Конечно, можно сетовать на все превратности судьбы на Родине, ругать систему, пересказывать страшилки про очереди за хлебом-маслом и из-за рубежа делать испуганные глазёнки...НО, пока мы САМИ не придем что-то менять, НИКТО ЗА НАС это не сделает. Мы должны все вместе взяться за дело, сломать, построить, созидать. Так что страна в нас всех нуждается. Не ждите официального призыва "Приезжайте", никто клич кидать не будет. Купите билет и возвращайтесь, когда почувствуете, что ваша помощь нужна как никогда...Родину не выбирают, так давайте ценить и любить то, что нам досталось. От нас зависит ее будущее. ТОЛЬКО ОТ НАС с ВАМИ!

[insider]

I have a dream ... :)
. that one day....I will go back to my adorable country...
. even if it doesn't need me

[Uyyonli]

one day I will be back home and serve my nation for the rest of my life.

[Abdug'ofur]

Vatanga qaytishning harakatini qilish kerak. Biroz qiyin bo'ladi, ammo vatanni ko'tarish kerak, mayli, bugungi bizning avlod qiynalsin, ammo ertaga farzandlarimiz ham bunaqa qiyinchilikda yashamasin. Hamma aqlli odamlar chet elga chiqib ketyapti, bu yaxshi emas!

[ferghaner]

manimcha hamma baribir vatanga qaytsa kere. 2 ta scenani oling:

--siz bolalaringiz bilan utiribsiz i uzizi hayotizi gapirib beryapsiz, sizga "bolam, ancha chet elda malaka oshirgandan keyin vatanga qaytib ishladik va mana kam bumadik. tugri millioner masdirman, lekin manda silardaqa qaytarilmas boyliklar bor, silar tarbiyali va zur avlodsilar. biz kurganni silarga kemasin"

--"man usha paytlarda qiyin bugani uchun u yerdan ketib qoldim va qayta olmadim." manimcha bu gapdan keyin bolez sizning maslahatlarizga umuman kirmedi, chunki siz uziz qiyinchilikdan qochib ketgansiz deydi.

[alpum]

manimcha hamma baribir vatanga qaytsa kere. 2 ta scenani oling:

--siz bolalaringiz bilan utiribsiz i uzizi hayotizi gapirib beryapsiz, sizga "bolam, ancha chet elda malaka oshirgandan keyin vatanga qaytib ishladik va mana kam bumadik. tugri millioner masdirman, lekin manda silardaqa qaytarilmas boyliklar bor, silar tarbiyali va zur avlodsilar. biz kurganni silarga kemasin"

--"man usha paytlarda qiyin bugani uchun u yerdan ketib qoldim va qayta olmadim." manimcha bu gapdan keyin bolez sizning maslahatlarizga umuman kirmedi, chunki siz uziz qiyinchilikdan qochib ketgansiz deydi.
третий вариант:

--" Balam ya tvoi geroy - v te trudnye dni ya smog vybratsya v bolee prosvetayoushuyou stranu i takim obrazom ty poluchil lutchuyou jizn v novoi dlya nas strane - ty doljen byt' mne blagodaren"

otvet - Yes Daddy you are right, thank you for our happy childhood)))

[Frida]

ovoz bermadim. chunki hozir bitta gapni aytib keyin kelajak boshqa yo'ldan ketsa, yolg'onchi bo'lib qolmay dedim. shu kunlarda dissertatsiyamning mavzusini tanlayapman, kim bilan gaplashmasam - hammasining birinchi savoli, kelajakda AQShda qolmoqchimsan degan savol. Men bilan ishlaydigan professordan nimaga hamma shunday deydi desam, "san AQShda qolib biror univerda dars berishingga hammaning ko'zi yetadi, ammo dissertatsiyangning mavzusi bunda eng katta rol' o'ynaydi. Agar AQSh muammolarini o'zida mujassam etsa, keyin ish topish bemalol" deb aytdi. Shunaqa gaplar. Hozirgi tanlamoqchi bo'lgan mavzum, menimcha, universal. Ta'limning turli yo'nalishiga qo'llasa bo'ladi.

Mavzuga qaytsak -- iloji boricha, O'zbekistonga qaytish imkoniyat tug'ilguncha o'z kelajagimni AQShda qurishga harakat qilaman. Menimcha, AQSh univer.larida biror yutuqqa erishganimdan so'ng O'zbekistonga ochiq yuz, biror maqsad va eng asosiysi o'zgarish qila oladigan bilim va tajriba "bagaji" bilan qaytish mumkin. Bu yerga kelganimdan beri Toshga 2 marta bordim, oddiy aspirant bo'lgan odamning ovozi hech qachon hech qayerga yetmaydi. Bizda faqat kuchli bilan boyni hurmat qilishadi. Shu ikkisidan biri bo'lsa, O'zbekistonda biror o'zgarish qilish mumkin. Ungacha hech kim bizga o'z tengidek qaramaydi. Eng achinarlisi, biror narsa bilan yordam beraman desangiz, yuzingizga qarab turib: yaxshi qiz, ja evropalashib ketibsiz, sal yerga tushing deyishadi. Bir qadam yerga tushsangiz, tuproqqa qorib, o'zlarining kundalik ishlarida qilayotgan ba'zi narsalarga qo'shib yuborishadi, bilmay ham qolasiz.

Gap shu, bu yerdagi har xil his tuyg'uga berilgan, 'mardlarcha' maslahat bergan kishilar diqqatiga -- hammani bir xil o'lchamang. Hamma ham O'zbekistonga borib biznes bilan shug'ullanmaydi. Ta'lim tizimida, siyosat, jamiyat, yoki davlat tizimida ishlamoqchi bo'lgan, u yerda o'zgartirish kirgizmoqchi bo'lgan odamlar, tomdan tarasha tushgandek, "men qaytdim" desa, hech kim ularni ochiq chehra bilan kutib olmaydi. Shuning eng asosiysi, hozir bilimni, tajribani kuchli qilish kerak.

[Abu-Hafiza]

ovoz bermadim. chunki hozir bitta gapni aytib keyin kelajak boshqa yo'ldan ketsa, yolg'onchi bo'lib qolmay dedim.

Mana shu gapingiz uchun THANKS, baraka toping

[Asadbek]

Are you going to go back home if your country really needs you?

Buning O'zbek tilida tarjimasi "Agar Ona Vataningiz (mamlakatingiz) sizga juda muhtoj bo'lsa, siz u yerga qaytib borarmidingiz?" bo'ladimi?

"Yo'q" deb belgilaganlarning yuragiga qoyil lekin...

[satik]

Undergraduateni tugatganimdan keyin Masterdi boshlagunimcha O'zbekistonda 1 yil qolishimga to'g'ri keldi. Shaharimdagi bitta akadem litseyda dars berdim. Hohlang maqtanish hohlang boshqacha, lekin undergraduateda orttirgan bilim ko'nikmalarim o'qituvchiligimda juda juda qo'l keldi va meni litseyda eng yaxshi dars beruvchi chet tili o'qituvchisi deb e'lon qilishdi. Bundan tashqari litsey miqyosida faqat meni o'quvchilarimdan budjetga kirganlar bo'ldi. Aytmoqchi bo'ganim maqtanishmas, balki chetta orttirgan bilimizi O'zbekistonga olib borsea, u yerda bunga ehtiyoj bor. Mehnatizi natijasi ko'rinadiyam. Kelgindi kuyov filmini ko'rganmisilar? Uncha yoqmediyu bitta joyi yoqadi. Haligi kuyov qishlaqqa kelib ahsetta izzat topadi muallim bo'lib, i qopketadi.
O'quvchiz bitta narsani yaxshi o'rgansina, shunga sizga minnatdor bo'sina, bu narsanichi hich qanaqa moddiy ekvivalenti yo'q. (Fikrlarim ko'proq pedagoglarga oid, lekin boshqa sohalargayam to'g'ri kesa kerak.)

[Frida]

Я так поняла это опус мне предназначался? Оставайтесь там где вам удобно, никто ведь не тащит в Ташкент. Всегда и везде удобней go with the flow, к чему лишние трудности?!Жизнью не раз доказывалось, разговоры об "опыте" -бесконечная история, которая скорее всего приведет к удобному гражданству, нежели реальному участию в жизни своей страны. Каждому-свою. Удачи.

Sag'bonlik-qiz, get over yourself. believe me, not everything is about you. not one bit of my post has anything to do with you or your intentions! And do not rush into conclusions, without knowing anything about me. I am only 26, I have all my life to work for my country. You talk as if every single twenty something person in Uzbekistan is just working his ass off to help Uzbekistan's economy. If your short term plans include going to Uzbekistan and work there, good luck. I already discussed this with you, and do not have any intention to continue. Your life is your life, I have nothing to say about it. If you decided so, flag vam v ruki! I wish you all the best. But please do not discuss my future intentions as if they were your own, or as if you are so sure about them. And please calm down a notch, as I said not everything is about you.

[Shambles]

A ya skaju, chto pravil'nogo otveta zdes' net... Kak zametila Sag'bonlik qiz, kajdomu-svoe... Daje za predelami Rodiny mojno byt' yey poleznoy i nujnoy... I daje na Rodine mojno byt' absolyutno bespoleznim... Tak chto delo ne v geograficheskom mestopolojenii, a v mental'no-patrioticheskom...

[alpum]

(Fikrlarim ko'proq pedagoglarga oid, lekin boshqa sohalargayam to'g'ri kesa kerak.)

Бошка сохаларга тугри келмасов.

масалан банк ишини олсак, битта одам утта хеч нарса килолмайди, банкга бориб ундок буддок деверсангиз - сизни ты что самый умный что-ли диешади, клиентларнихам рози килолмайсиз сизни барибир ланатлаб кетишади - кредит бермагандан киен)

[Shambles]

oooo, tough debates... reminds me hardtalk on BBC!!!:D

[Frida]

Undergraduateni tugatganimdan keyin Masterdi boshlagunimcha O'zbekistonda 1 yil qolishimga to'g'ri keldi. Shaharimdagi bitta akadem litseyda dars berdim. Hohlang maqtanish hohlang boshqacha, lekin undergraduateda orttirgan bilim ko'nikmalarim o'qituvchiligimda juda juda qo'l keldi va meni litseyda eng yaxshi dars beruvchi chet tili o'qituvchisi deb e'lon qilishdi. Bundan tashqari litsey miqyosida faqat meni o'quvchilarimdan budjetga kirganlar bo'ldi. Aytmoqchi bo'ganim maqtanishmas, balki chetta orttirgan bilimizi O'zbekistonga olib borsea, u yerda bunga ehtiyoj bor. Mehnatizi natijasi ko'rinadiyam. Kelgindi kuyov filmini ko'rganmisilar? Uncha yoqmediyu bitta joyi yoqadi. Haligi kuyov qishlaqqa kelib ahsetta izzat topadi muallim bo'lib, i qopketadi.
O'quvchiz bitta narsani yaxshi o'rgansina, shunga sizga minnatdor bo'sina, bu narsanichi hich qanaqa moddiy ekvivalenti yo'q. (Fikrlarim ko'proq pedagoglarga oid, lekin boshqa sohalargayam to'g'ri kesa kerak.)

satik, maladec. ta'lim sohasida ishlaganda har doim mehnatingiz ko'rinadi. men ham Inyazda bir yil dars bergan vaqtlarimni quvonch bilan eslayman. Hali hali talabalarim email yozib turishadi... xudo xohlasa dilda bor, ta'lim sohasida biror o'zgarish qilish... ishqilib umid so'nmasin.

[Sag'bonlik_qiz]

Sag'bonlik-qiz, get over yourself. believe me, not everything is about you. not one bit of my post has anything to do with you or your intentions! And do not rush into conclusions, without knowing anything about me. I am only 26, I have all my life to work for my country. You talk as if every single twenty something person in Uzbekistan is just working his ass off to help Uzbekistan's economy. If your short term plans include going to Uzbekistan and work there, good luck. I already discussed this with you, and do not have any intention to continue. Your life is your life, I have nothing to say about it. If you decided so, flag vam v ruki! I wish you all the best. But please do not discuss my future intentions as if they were your own, or as if you are so sure about them. And please calm down a notch, as I said not everything is about you.

"Gap shu, bu yerdagi har xil his tuyg'uga berilgan, 'mardlarcha' maslahat bergan kishilar diqqatiga -- hammani bir xil o'lchamang. Hamma ham O'zbekistonga borib biznes bilan shug'ullanmaydi."

Просто после таких слов показалось, что вы обращаетесь ко тем, кто упомянул бизнес. Извиняюсь, если вы обращались к кому-то пятому-десятому, а мне, грешным делом, показалось что к тем кто пишет на ветке. И не надо нервничать, ТАФ лэди. Здесь каждый высказывает свое мнение, только у вас почти всегда оно получается в агрессивно-огрызающейся манере.;) If you fail to see the tone of your post above, I'm amazed.

[Frida]

"Gap shu, bu yerdagi har xil his tuyg'uga berilgan, 'mardlarcha' maslahat bergan kishilar diqqatiga -- hammani bir xil o'lchamang. Hamma ham O'zbekistonga borib biznes bilan shug'ullanmaydi."

Просто после таких слов показалось, что вы обращаетесь ко тем, кто упомянул бизнес. Извиняюсь, если вы обращались к кому-то пятому-десятому, а мне, грешным делом, показалось что к тем кто пишет на ветке. И не надо нервничать, ТАФ лэди. Здесь каждый высказывает свое мнение, только у вас почти всегда оно получается в агрессивно-огрызающейся манере.;) If you fail to see the tone of your post above, I'm amazed.

Sag'bonlik-qiz, I honestly did not mean you. As far as I know you are interested in area studies and/or security issues, right? so, it never even crossed my mind. As for the tone of my post if I came off very tough :) as you say, then I apologize. However, in a very friendly note, you yourself, sometime sound quite condescending. So, I guess a food for thought for both of us.

PS. I guess I am to blame for not reading all the posts in this thread. I am working on it. If I made anyone else angry, my sincere apologies.

[alpum]

Эй девушки, что-то вы пасивны сегодня, так не интересно
давайте побейте друг друга еще, народ требует зрелищ

[Shambles]

Zreeeeeeelisch, zreeeeeeeeeeeelisch...:D:D:D

[Darvesh]

Возвращаться или нет? Быть или нет? Вечные вопросы на этом форуме:)

Каждый решает сам для себя, стоит ли ему возвращаться. Возвращаетесь? Хорошо. Решили остатся? Тоже не беда, ничего зазорного в этом нет, у каждого есть свои обстоятельства, побудившие его остаться.

Только пожалуйста, если решили все таки остаться, признайтесь хотя бы себе, что причины побудившие вас на этот шаг имеют сугубо личный или экономический характер. Смешно читать когда кто-то, не сумевший отказаться от прелестей Запада в виде хорошей зарплаты, чистых городков, опрятных людей и т.д., оправдывает свое решение плохим социо-политическим климатом в Узбекистане. Что-то наподобие вот этого опуса:

Mavzuga qaytsak -- iloji boricha, 1 O'zbekistonga qaytish imkoniyat tug'ilguncha o'z kelajagimni AQShda qurishga harakat qilaman. Menimcha, AQSh univer.larida biror yutuqqa erishganimdan so'ng O'zbekistonga ochiq yuz, biror maqsad va eng asosiysi o'zgarish qila oladigan bilim va tajriba "bagaji" bilan qaytish mumkin.

Всего лишь пара вопросов:
1. Какие изменения должны произойти в Узбекистане, чтобы Фридахон вернулась? И произойдут ли эти изменения на нашем с вами веку? Если произойдут, то будете ли Вы там нужны ?
B]Bu yerga kelganimdan beri Toshga 2 marta bordim, oddiy aspirant bo'lgan odamning ovozi hech qachon hech qayerga yetmaydi. Bizda faqat kuchli bilan boyni hurmat qilishadi.[/B] Ungacha hech kim bizga o'z tengidek qaramaydi.

2. Ок, мы поняли что в Узб оддий аспирант-никто. А в США, наверное оддий аспирант может достучаться до Буша? Или, хотя бы до вице? :lol:

3. Дуненинг каерида "кучли ва бойни" хурмат килишмайди?
Shu ikkisidan biri bo'lsa, O'zbekistonda biror o'zgarish qilish mumkin.
Я так понял, что Вас интересуют только грандиозные проекты и на меньшее чем изменения в общенациональном масштабе Вы не согласны?

Вообще, кажется на форуме бытует мнение, что в Узбекистане сидят только мракобесы, которые всячески гнобят наших "патриотов" с их западными дипломами. Бечора, нозик "американецларимиз" :lol:.

[The MINUSCULE MAN]

Bir hafta qoldi, Biiiiir hafta. :))))

[benq35]

А у меня Home - теперь Америка.

[abcd]

Are you going to go back home if your country really needs you?

Buning O'zbek tilida tarjimasi "Agar Ona Vataningiz (mamlakatingiz) sizga juda muhtoj bo'lsa, siz u yerga qaytib borarmidingiz?" bo'ladimi?

"Yo'q" deb belgilaganlarning yuragiga qoyil lekin...

Nahotki O'zbekiston hozir sizga bizga muhtoj emas. O'zbekistonda nima yuz berishi kerakki YES deb belgilagan janobi oliy/oliyalari issiq o'rindiqlaridan turib O'zbekistonga qarab survorishsa? O'zbekistonda qahatchilik, qurg'oqchilik, fuqarolar urushi, zilzilani kutyapsizlarmi?

Mana O'zbekistonda o'qish susayib ketyapti, qanchadan qancha malakali mutahassislarga ehtiyoj bor. Sekin ko'ch ko'lanlarni yig'ishtirib bormesilarmi?

Man YOQ dedim. Chunki publikaga oynashni yomon ko'raman. Qo'limdan kelamydigan ishga ham va'da berolmayman. Agar hozir O'zbekistonga borganimda hech bo'lmaganda bitta maktabga ingliz tili o'qituvchisi bo'lib joylashvosam ancha nafim tekkan bo'lar edi. Nafaqat man balkim chetda yurgan hamma ham shu narsani qilishga qurbi yetadi, shu jumladan YES deb javob berganlarni ham.

[insider]

I dont know.

I cant say anything right now but for the long term definitely one big YES! And when I go back I want to live in my own village - enjoy the place once I enjoyed growing up. Enjoy the peaceful afternoons of summer and peaceful and chilly nights of the winter.

When I go back my dream would be opening one school where I would be able to teach English and mathematics combined with computer sciences (programming) at an advanced level. Now that would just flourish the potential of my village. There are some very talented people there but not everyone can afford to lash out money on education I am afraid. :( SO, my purpose is going back and do something useful for the benefit of my village.

ehh, mashunaqa...
you are sounding like my flatmate. aren't you one by any chance? :D

ON: I am going home soon!!! ....for two weeks only :(

[nemets]

Я отпахал с государством 5 лет, после чего понял, что хожу по краю ножа. Я даже уехав, первые года два не мог спокойно заснуть- думал придут за мной, хотя все свои дела закрыл. Но все же знают как у нас бывает- "был бы человек, а срок придумаем". До 1997-го года я был на 1000% уверен, что я станусь жить в Узбекистане и рвал глотки любому, кто осмеливался критиковать страну. Но, чем дальше в лес- тем больше дров. В один момент я понял, что хочу просто спокойно жить, с детьми, с женой, чтобы мои родные были уверены, что со мной ничего не случится.
В общем я не революционер, а жена моя - не жена декабриста. А так, я никогда не забываю помогать своим родным в Ташкенте, можно сказать, я только о них и думаю после моей семьи.

[The MINUSCULE MAN]

В один момент я понял, что хочу просто спокойно жить, с детьми, с женой

Vot izza chego ya domoy edu. :( Hochetsya spokoystviya, sem'i, detey. Reshil dlya sebya, esli za opredelenniy srok nichego ne izmenitsya s momenta moego pribitiya v Uzb, smativayu udochki, uje permanently. Bezdeystvovat' ne budu, esli net peremen k luchshemu - vse, kak tam v pesne, Goodbye America, oh (c) Nautilus.:?

[lilbit]

Вопрос был - ДА - НЕТ! Говорить о частностях мне было не интересно. Передо мнои стоял вопрос, каков процент сидящих на форуме согласится, при оптимальных для него/нее условиях, вернуться в Узб. Пока 80%, как я и ожидал и ето радует.




Как сказал один из героев фильма Брат 2, "Родина там, где твоя %опа в тепле". Отчасти он был прав, но . . .

[bacha]

Вопрос был - ДА - НЕТ! Говорить о частностях мне было не интересно. Передо мнои стоял вопрос, каков процент сидящих на форуме согласится, при оптимальных для него/нее условиях, вернуться в Узб. Пока 80%, как я и ожидал и ето радует.




Как сказал один из героев фильма Брат 2, "Родина там, где твоя %опа в тепле". Отчасти он был прав, но . . .
You asked the question a wrong way. Do you think it is ever going to happen that our help will be needed there ASAP?

Although most of us are useless anyways.

[lilbit]

You asked the question a wrong way. Do you think it is ever going to happen that our help will be needed there ASAP?

Although most of us are useless anyways.

look at my first post in the thread! Have I written about ASAP terms??? The question weather it's going to happen or not is a subject of another thread.


A man cannot be useful in one place and useless in another!!!

[MUHLIS]

no. but i will go there to visit my parents and relatives.....i don't think anyone except them need will ever need me there.....not anymore.....

[bacha]

Lilbit, don`t be nervous. The first post of yours, with which you opened this thread reads:
The question is, are going to go back home if situation changes, you'll be paid well enough to live and will be treated accordingly to respect yourself?


The question for those who graduating, graduated or planning to do it abroad. It would be better to consider such an option that our home country asks for our help ASAP (of course after graduation).
That`s the part I was referring to.

And even about the first question;
Situation will change. One might even be paid really good and treated accordingly. Which is also possible. But if you put this into a framework of several years. Will it take ten years, or twenty, or more for this to happen?

The above being said, why not just simply ask if users are gonna go back.
My answer then would be, I am going to combine both till I will be sure which one is better.

[lilbit]

My answer then would be, I am going to combine both till I will be sure which one is better.
that's all I wanted to know!! :D)))))

P.S. I am not nervous. ;)

[kudrin]

Kop davlatlarni kordim, bu degani kop harhil insonlarni. lekin ozbek millati kabi millatni uchratganim yoq. ozbek millati oz urf odat va madaniyati, an\'analariga, tarihiga va diniga sadoqatli. bu bilan birga tarki dunyo qiladiganlardan ham emas. yahshilikka va rivojlanishga intiladi. boshqa millat va halqlarga ochiq va mehmondost. ularning tajribasini ham qollay oladi. beruni, ibni sino, ulugbek, amir temur kabi buyuk shahislarni yetishtirgan bu muqaddas tuproqlar yana kerak bolsa shular kabi buyuk shahslarni yateshtira olishiga ishonaman. shu forumda ham oramizda bunday shahslar bolishi mumkin. yani sizlar orangizda. faqat oldinga intilishimiz kerak, ham ozimiz uchun hamda bizni ostirgan vatanimiz uchun nimadir yahshilik olib kelishimiz kerak. Olimning uyqusi johilning ishidan ustundir degan gap bor. agar chet elda yurgan vatandoshlarimiz uhlayotgan olim bolsalar ham johil kimsalardan koproq foyda keltira olishlariga ishonchim komil. vatanimizda ham kop yahshilikka intiluvchi insonlarni uchratsa boladi. lekin shuni aytib otish kerakki hardoim uygoq bolish zarur. har hil yovuz kuchlardan. hoh islom niqobi ostida oz gariz niyatlarini amalga oshirmoqchi bolgan guruhlar bolsin yoki, oz garb madaniyatini va ongini targib qilmoqchi bolgan oqimlar.
hammaga qilayotgan ezgu ishlarida omad tilab. kudrin.

[lips]

We should think about homeland when we can. Unless you have already made your life in the new country and don't wish to return and give up your citizenship. Everybody loves their home country even if there is a pot of gold in a foreign land.

[Professor]

Kop davlatlarni kordim, bu degani kop harhil insonlarni. lekin ozbek millati kabi millatni uchratganim yoq. ozbek millati oz urf odat va madaniyati, an\'analariga, tarihiga va diniga sadoqatli. bu bilan birga tarki dunyo qiladiganlardan ham emas. yahshilikka va rivojlanishga intiladi. boshqa millat va halqlarga ochiq va mehmondost. ularning tajribasini ham qollay oladi. beruni, ibni sino, ulugbek, amir temur kabi buyuk shahislarni yetishtirgan bu muqaddas tuproqlar yana kerak bolsa shular kabi buyuk shahslarni yateshtira olishiga ishonaman. shu forumda ham oramizda bunday shahslar bolishi mumkin. yani sizlar orangizda. faqat oldinga intilishimiz kerak, ham ozimiz uchun hamda bizni ostirgan vatanimiz uchun nimadir yahshilik olib kelishimiz kerak. Olimning uyqusi johilning ishidan ustundir degan gap bor. agar chet elda yurgan vatandoshlarimiz uhlayotgan olim bolsalar ham johil kimsalardan koproq foyda keltira olishlariga ishonchim komil. vatanimizda ham kop yahshilikka intiluvchi insonlarni uchratsa boladi. lekin shuni aytib otish kerakki hardoim uygoq bolish zarur. har hil yovuz kuchlardan. hoh islom niqobi ostida oz gariz niyatlarini amalga oshirmoqchi bolgan guruhlar bolsin yoki, oz garb madaniyatini va ongini targib qilmoqchi bolgan oqimlar.
hammaga qilayotgan ezgu ishlarida omad tilab. kudrin.
Qaysi davlatlarda ekan usha o'zbeklar...biz ham borib kuraylik.

[Odildustov]

hell no, never ever i stay abroad. mayli mani uzlari safiga kutarishmasin, manga davlatdan ish berishmasin, baribir qaytaman. nisbatan kereli bilimni ham oldim, dunyoni bu tomonidan kirib u tomonidan chiqdim lekin uzimni jonajon vatanimdek joyni halqni topolmadim. tugri giybatchi, kuromeydigan, manfatiga ters kep qolsez uldirvorishdan ham qaytmeydigan halqim bor, lekin mashu mentalitetda usgandan keyin boshqasiga kunikish qiyin ekan, borib yashashni uzi bir baht-ku. ;) ikkinchi tomondan endi man uchun u yerda yashash oson. tugri birinchi chiqayotganimda qqaytib kelmayman degandim.

[Professor]

hell no, never ever i stay abroad. mayli mani uzlari safiga kutarishmasin, manga davlatdan ish berishmasin, baribir qaytaman. nisbatan kereli bilimni ham oldim, dunyoni bu tomonidan kirib u tomonidan chiqdim lekin uzimni jonajon vatanimdek joyni halqni topolmadim. tugri giybatchi, kuromeydigan, manfatiga ters kep qolsez uldirvorishdan ham qaytmeydigan halqim bor, lekin mashu mentalitetda usgandan keyin boshqasiga kunikish qiyin ekan, borib yashashni uzi bir baht-ku. ;) ikkinchi tomondan endi man uchun u yerda yashash oson. tugri birinchi chiqayotganimda qqaytib kelmayman degandim.

Ishonasizmi.....1 yil oldin uyga aynan shunaqa ishonch va suzlar bilan borgandim...lekin 1 oydan keyin halol va odam sifatida yashash uchun chet el man uchun hozircha eng qulay variant deb orqaga qaytganman.....faqat shu sog'inch yana orqaga yetaklaydi.

[Odildustov]

Ishonasizmi.....1 yil oldin uyga aynan shunaqa ishonch va suzlar bilan borgandim...lekin 1 oydan keyin halol va odam sifatida yashash uchun chet el man uchun hozircha eng qulay variant deb orqaga qaytganman.....faqat shu sog'inch yana orqaga yetaklaydi.
bilmadim professor, man-ku bir yil hech qachon qolib ketmaganman chetda. hozir ham har 4-5 oyda borib turaman. lekin 1 yil qolib ketsam qaytib uzb dan chiqmasam kere. 2- tomondan qarasa borgandan keyin 2 haftadan keyin zerikadigan bulibman. balki aniq qaytishimni bilganim uchunmi, balki aytganizde sharoitga qarabmi???:(

[gentle]

in 2 weeks :) can't wait for it :)))))))

Davayte mestami pomenyaemsya
:(

[1985eva]

Lillbit,

Your question doesn't make sense. If you want an objective answer, you have to ask the question in a neutral format.
It's like you are asking: "would you eat really delicious ice cream, if it didn't make you fat and wasn't bad for you?" Well, duh,..
That's why the answers reflect the question asked, "I would really love to eat the ice cream, but unfortunately it still makes me fat and it's bad for me"...
Waste of forum space!

[cianore]

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