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MegaZ
09-24-2007, 01:10 AM
Good evening forumers,

This is not the first time I talk about security on forum and I would like to reiterate it again. I just got more evidence that this forum is under a close watch of SNB and certain individuals working for the government (A.K.A. "Rats"). They profile forum users, especially the ones that talk freely about the government and participate in political discussions. Please use the following guide to protect your online identity, especially on forum.

1) If you are located in Uzbekistan, please use programs that encrypt your traffic via SSL or some other secure method. There are many ways to do this and we can go into more details on how to do this.
2) Avoid using MSN, Yahoo Messenger and other chat software with anyone who is physically located in Uzbekistan. Chat software is NOT secure and all of your communication can be easily "sniffed".
3) If you think that your Voice communication over Skype, Yahoo Messenger or other Voice over IP (VoIP) communication is secure - you are WRONG! Any type of VoIP communication can be easily sniffed and recorded. The only way to communicate securely is to encrypt the whole VoIP traffic. This can be done with some software and we can also discuss this later on in this thread. Of course, I wouldn't be worried much if both parties are outside of Uzbekistan, but if you are talking to someone who is in Uzbekistan, please be extremely careful. This is almost like talking over the phone... By the way, ever wondered why the phone disconnects every hour when you call home? I used to joke saying "the tape ended". This is true - EVERY International call to Uzbekistan is recorded. Not everything is listened to, of course, but such things as "key/trigger words" do exist (for example "president", "birlik", "revolution", etc).
4) Do NOT use public computers (Internet cafe) in Uzbekistan! Even if you do, be very careful about what you visit. Do not chat online using public computers. Avoid signing in to any websites without SSL (https://).
5) Do NOT get too close to anyone on forum, unless you know who they are and know FOR SURE that they do not work for the government. Even then, be careful. Someone who does not work for the government today can be working for it tomorrow.
6) Those, who really want to find out who you are will try every method to get "closer" to you. They will PM you, email you, ask you to get online, ask you to share your contacts, etc. Stay away from them and ignore their requests.
7) If you have anything to be afraid of, do NOT share your pictures with other forum users. The world is small and people know you.
8) Nothing will protect you if a remote "worm" is executed on your PC. Goes without saying - install good virus/trojan/spyware protection software and make sure that it monitors your system well. Do not open email attachments from people you do not know. Right after rebooting your PC, before you open up any connections, go to the command prompt (Start->Run->cmd) and type "netstat -a" (close out of chat software and other software that connects to the Internet). Check out every line and make sure you do not have anything that says "ESTABLISHED". Use more-secure browsers such as Mozilla Firefox or Opera instead of Internet Explorer.

I will post more info later.

Please feel free to add more security-related stuff if you have any other suggestions.


Thank you!

Yours,
MegaZ

Legend
09-24-2007, 01:30 AM
Tolko hotel skazat ne davayte "Thanks" a to i zdes uznayut kto chem dishit :D. Uje opozdal.

Lady_G
09-24-2007, 01:32 AM
6) Those, who really want to find out who you are will try every method to get "closer" to you. They will PM you, email you, ask you to get online, ask you to share your contacts, etc. Stay away from them and ignore their requests.
Ndaa tovba! SHunaqala lek rosa bo'gan :rolleyes: .

studentaou
09-24-2007, 01:35 AM
Good evening forumers,

This is not the first time I talk about security on forum and I would like to reiterate it again. I just got more evidence that this forum is under a close watch of SNB and certain individuals working for the government (A.K.A. "Rats"). They profile forum users, especially the ones that talk freely about the government and participate in political discussions. Please use the following guide to protect your online identity, especially on forum.

1) If you are located in Uzbekistan, please use programs that encrypt your traffic via SSL or some other secure method. There are many ways to do this and we can go into more details on how to do this.
2) Avoid using MSN, Yahoo Messenger and other chat software with anyone who is physically located in Uzbekistan. Chat software is NOT secure and all of your communication can be easily "sniffed".
3) If you think that your Voice communication over Skype, Yahoo Messenger or other Voice over IP (VoIP) communication is secure - you are WRONG! Any type of VoIP communication can be easily sniffed and recorded. The only way to communicate securely is to encrypt the whole VoIP traffic. This can be done with some software and we can also discuss this later on in this thread. Of course, I wouldn't be worried much if both parties are outside of Uzbekistan, but if you are talking to someone who is in Uzbekistan, please be extremely careful. This is almost like talking over the phone... By the way, ever wondered why the phone disconnects every hour when you call home? I used to joke saying "the tape ended". This is true - EVERY International call to Uzbekistan is recorded. Not everything is listened to, of course, but such things as "key/trigger words" do exist (for example "president", "birlik", "revolution", etc).
4) Do NOT use public computers (Internet cafe) in Uzbekistan! Even if you do, be very careful about what you visit. Do not chat online using public computers. Avoid signing in to any websites without SSL (https://).
5) Do NOT get too close to anyone on forum, unless you know who they are and know FOR SURE that they do not work for the government. Even then, be careful. Someone who does not work for the government today can be working for it tomorrow.
6) Those, who really want to find out who you are will try every method to get "closer" to you. They will PM you, email you, ask you to get online, ask you to share your contacts, etc. Stay away from them and ignore their requests.
7) If you have anything to be afraid of, do NOT share your pictures with other forum users. The world is small and people know you.
8) Nothing will protect you if a remote "worm" is executed on your PC. Goes without saying - install good virus/trojan/spyware protection software and make sure that it monitors your system well. Do not open email attachments from people you do not know. Right after rebooting your PC, before you open up any connections, go to the command prompt (Start->Run->cmd) and type "netstat -a" (close out of chat software and other software that connects to the Internet). Check out every line and make sure you do not have anything that says "ESTABLISHED". Use more-secure browsers such as Mozilla Firefox or Opera instead of Internet Explorer.

I will post more info later.

Please feel free to add more security-related stuff if you have any other suggestions.


Thank you!

Yours,
MegaZ
Thank you, and what if it says "established", so what do we have to do?
I have checked my system and several "localhost:xxxx", "###.##.###.##:http" and some "xxxxxx.net or xxxxxxxx.glb" address says established, what does it mean? And have can I hide or secure my address? Thank you in advance.

Lady_G
09-24-2007, 01:44 AM
Tolko hotel skazat ne davayte "Thanks" a to i zdes uznayut kto chem dishit :D. Uje opozdal.
Thankslani uzhe optashabtilami :lool: :lool:
Bir balosii bo'lmasaaaaaaa :D

bacha
09-24-2007, 02:07 AM
I guess they are looking for specific people. People who are in politics, and do some activities in Uzb. Otherwise, it is such a useless thing to follow every one of us. If finding those who are critical of the current government is their goal, within Uzb. they will have to arrest much more than half of the population.

Yet, logic and rationalism are not some of the qualities of our government and anything can be true about them.

noodles
09-24-2007, 03:06 AM
Thank you, and what if it says "established", so what do we have to do?
I have checked my system and several "localhostxxx", "###.##.###.##:http" and some "xxxxxx.net or xxxxxxxx.glb" address says established, what does it mean? And have can I hide or secure my address? Thank you in advance.

It means that your computer has been infected and worm/trojan and your data is at risk. Install some antivirus software, for. e.g.: Kaspersky AntiVirus.

Amiri Turkiston
09-24-2007, 11:15 AM
What can you advice for this one?:

1) If you are located in Uzbekistan, please use programs that encrypt your traffic via SSL or some other secure method. There are many ways to do this and we can go into more details on how to do this.

how can I secure my private e-mail while Im working with The BAT?

UzLand
09-24-2007, 11:29 AM
6) Those, who really want to find out who you are will try every method to get "closer" to you. They will PM you, email you, ask you to get online, ask you to share your contacts, etc. Stay away from them and ignore their requests.

блин, мен форумда одамлар билан асосан шундай танишар эдим...to get to know the human face...энди мени игнор килишар эканда:)

~~NuR~~
09-24-2007, 11:50 AM
mendan kechani o'zida YM da 3ta,hotmailda 1ta odam add qilishimmi request qildi.Hammasi qizla :).Hayolimga kelgan fikr hammasiga call qildirdim.:) Ana undan keyin camerasini yoqtirdim.KEyin gaplashdim.Qilgan KICHKINA hatoim rasmlarimmi sharing qilib yubordim :/ Yahshilikka bo'lsin.

Asadbek
09-24-2007, 11:58 AM
Thank you, and what if it says "established", so what do we have to do?
I have checked my system and several "localhost:xxxx", "###.##.###.##:http" and some "xxxxxx.net or xxxxxxxx.glb" address says established, what does it mean? And have can I hide or secure my address? Thank you in advance.Antivirus-Programm nod32 helps you.
You can try with Trial-Version, it's full functionable.

Royal
09-24-2007, 12:31 PM
блин, мен форумда одамлар билан асосан шундай танишар эдим...to get to know the human face...энди мени игнор килишар эканда:)

ana endi futbolam onasinikiga ketti...

UdachnicK
09-24-2007, 12:32 PM
mana shu ESTABLISHED lani nima qisa bo'ladi?

SAMARKANDI!
09-24-2007, 12:40 PM
do not download anything from here :) especially from this thread if anything comes up later.

get banned ASAP :D

p.s. i believe this is very serious

Delf
09-24-2007, 12:43 PM
- Установите (бесплатный) TOR: http://tor.eff.org/docs/tor-doc-win32.html.en для анонимности пользования Интернетом.
- Используйте (бесплатный) эл. ящик от гугл с применением безопасного SSL доступа через httpS://gmail.com
- Настоятельно советую пользоваться http://firegpg.tuxfamily.org/ для шифрования всей почты.
- Установите (бесплатный) Antivirus Shield: http://www.activevirusshield.com
- Установите (бесплатный) нормальный firewall: http://www.download.com/3000-2092-10039884.html

Delf.

master
09-24-2007, 12:47 PM
- Установите (бесплатный) Antivirus Shield: http://www.activevirusshield.com
We're Sorry!

* AOL® Active Virus Shield is no longer available

Delf
09-24-2007, 12:51 PM
Also, you may want to use https://www.hushmail.com

Delf.

Delf
09-24-2007, 12:56 PM
We're Sorry!

* AOL® Active Virus Shield is no longer available


They switched from Kaspersky to McAfee : http://safety.aol.com/isc/BasicSecurity/

Delf.

Octavarium
09-24-2007, 01:09 PM
Alright, here's a funny story with wiretapping.

My very close friend who worked for an NGO in Uzbekistan happened to be a Serbian. While talking over the phone, he would mostly use English (as he mostly spoke to local staff and since he spoke neither Russian, nor Uzbek they were forced to communicate in English), however, at some point he called his friend who also happened to a Serbian national and, naturally, they switched to Serbian [language]. They talked for quite a while and although I am not sure what they were talking about, I am sure it was of special interest for our secret service guys. So anyway, at some point of the conversation, a third person entered the conversation and asked them to switch to English (!!!), as, the third party said, he could not understand Serbian. Can you imagine this situation? I had hard time grasping the concept that the SNB did not even pretend not to be wiretapping my friend’s cell, but again, it’s a true story.

Darvesh
09-24-2007, 01:15 PM
Установив Tor для анонимности пользования Интернетом заходит например, Дельф на форум через анономайзер, и оставляет сообщение что он один из первых умидовцев, которые учились в Жоржия стэйт универе на программера. Также постит свою фотку в галереи. Вопрос: как быстро вычислят его настоящие данные, если Делфом заинтересуются компетентные органы? :) Примерно такая же картина и у всех нас. При желании можно составить полное досье на любого юзера, слишком уж много персональной информации разбросанно тут и там.

Но думаю, что основной массе форумчан беспокоиться не стоит, никому мы не нужны. А тем, кем заинтересовались спецслужбы уже ничто не поможет, те могут расслабиться и постараться получить удовольствие:)

Sag'bonlik_qiz
09-24-2007, 02:37 PM
Но думаю, что основной массе форумчан беспокоиться не стоит, никому мы не нужны. А тем, кем заинтересовались спецслужбы уже ничто не поможет, те могут расслабиться и постараться получить удовольствие:)

Согласна с Дервишем. Никому, по сути, нет дела до юзеров молодежного форума. Если на то пошло есть куда более серьезные форумы, но даже там за все эти годы (тьфу-тьфу, куз тегмасин) никого не теребили. Так что принимайте меры предосторожности, но не надо истерии, пожалуйста.

Пушкарева
09-24-2007, 02:38 PM
i smeh i greh. anekdot odnim slovom.

Alright, here's a funny story with wiretapping.

My very close friend who worked for an NGO in Uzbekistan happened to be a Serbian. While talking over the phone, he would mostly use English (as he mostly spoke to local staff and since he spoke neither Russian, nor Uzbek they were forced to communicate in English), however, at some point he called his friend who also happened to a Serbian national and, naturally, they switched to Serbian [language]. They talked for quite a while and although I am not sure what they were talking about, I am sure it was of special interest for our secret service guys. So anyway, at some point of the conversation, a third person entered the conversation and asked them to switch to English (!!!), as, the third party said, he could not understand Serbian. Can you imagine this situation? I had hard time grasping the concept that the SNB did not even pretend not to be wiretapping my friend’s cell, but again, it’s a true story.

lilbit
09-24-2007, 02:45 PM
При желании можно составить полное досье на любого юзера, слишком уж много персональной информации разбросанно тут и там.



absolyutno verno!
Na kajdogo iz nas, kto za granicey, est' papka, s nadpis'yu DELO N 23423423 (ili chto to vrode). I komu nado, tot vsyo znaet.

Po postu Octuvariuma - tipichnaya kishlachnaya, topornaya rabota. Etot debil eshe b stenogrammu poprosil :D)))). K sojaleniyu v SNB stanovitsya takih vse bol'she i bol'she. Hotya vo vremya Soyuza tam rabotali speci visshego klasa, osobenno v kontrrazvedke!

SAMARKANDI!
09-24-2007, 02:46 PM
Alright, here's a funny story with wiretapping.

My very close friend who worked for an NGO in Uzbekistan happened to be a Serbian. While talking over the phone, he would mostly use English (as he mostly spoke to local staff and since he spoke neither Russian, nor Uzbek they were forced to communicate in English), however, at some point he called his friend who also happened to a Serbian national and, naturally, they switched to Serbian [language]. They talked for quite a while and although I am not sure what they were talking about, I am sure it was of special interest for our secret service guys. So anyway, at some point of the conversation, a third person entered the conversation and asked them to switch to English (!!!), as, the third party said, he could not understand Serbian. Can you imagine this situation? I had hard time grasping the concept that the SNB did not even pretend not to be wiretapping my friend’s cell, but again, it’s a true story.


LOL, interesting people. It gets even funnier when you sit face to face and chat with SNB official and he doesnt realize that you know who he is :D Pathetic Secret Service

Demir Kağan
09-24-2007, 04:16 PM
Alright, here's a funny story with wiretapping.

My very close friend who worked for an NGO in Uzbekistan happened to be a Serbian. While talking over the phone, he would mostly use English (as he mostly spoke to local staff and since he spoke neither Russian, nor Uzbek they were forced to communicate in English), however, at some point he called his friend who also happened to a Serbian national and, naturally, they switched to Serbian [language]. They talked for quite a while and although I am not sure what they were talking about, I am sure it was of special interest for our secret service guys. So anyway, at some point of the conversation, a third person entered the conversation and asked them to switch to English (!!!), as, the third party said, he could not understand Serbian. Can you imagine this situation? I had hard time grasping the concept that the SNB did not even pretend not to be wiretapping my friend’s cell, but again, it’s a true story.

What the hell! :shock:

Octavarium
09-24-2007, 04:49 PM
What the hell! :shock:

Nah, not hell, it's Uzbekistan.


p.s. God bless Uzbekistan.

lilbit
09-24-2007, 04:53 PM
this is not madness, this is Uzbekistan!!! (C) a la "300" :D)))))

Lady_G
09-24-2007, 05:00 PM
блин, мен форумда одамлар билан асосан шундай танишар эдим...to get to know the human face...энди мени игнор килишар экандаSen yolg'izmassan :lol:!

LOL

Maniyam Nezabudka bitta hazilimni deb Y!larida ignore, block, report spam qip tashadila :lol:

eto orxan? :lol:

Yo'g'a bu orxan emas :D
A tak uzhe ko'rgansiz orxanni

Lady G, qattan hamma narsa bilas, a? Man oz haqimda bilmagan narsalani ham bilasmi? :)

Ha Nezabudkaxon bilaman :)

~*NeZaBudkA*~, man anaqa SNBda ishliman, MegaZni kollegasiman :D .

bugun shu o'y hayolimga kegandi, galleryni ochib qarsam, siz oziz confess qilibsiz :D ushatta ishlidigan 2chi tanishim bolasiz :)

Vot mani endi agentshaga chiqarib qo'ydila :lool:

Пушкарева
09-24-2007, 06:03 PM
Lady G, are you silly?? I am working full-time, sign in to YM only late in the evening and therefore we keep missing each other! Jinnivoy! I never ignored you! Vot masalan hozir, nime manga YM-da javob yo sizga yozsam?

Nezabudka hapa.

ps: nime keragi bor edi gallerydan betga gap opchiqish? ;)

furik
09-24-2007, 07:02 PM
Good evening forumers,

This is not the first time I talk about security on forum and I would like to reiterate it again. I just got more evidence that this forum is under a close watch of SNB and certain individuals working for the government (A.K.A. "Rats"). They profile forum users, especially the ones that talk freely about the government and participate in political discussions. Please use the following guide to protect your online identity, especially on forum.

1) If you are located in Uzbekistan, please use programs that encrypt your traffic via SSL or some other secure method. There are many ways to do this and we can go into more details on how to do this.
2) Avoid using MSN, Yahoo Messenger and other chat software with anyone who is physically located in Uzbekistan. Chat software is NOT secure and all of your communication can be easily "sniffed".
3) If you think that your Voice communication over Skype, Yahoo Messenger or other Voice over IP (VoIP) communication is secure - you are WRONG! Any type of VoIP communication can be easily sniffed and recorded. The only way to communicate securely is to encrypt the whole VoIP traffic. This can be done with some software and we can also discuss this later on in this thread. Of course, I wouldn't be worried much if both parties are outside of Uzbekistan, but if you are talking to someone who is in Uzbekistan, please be extremely careful. This is almost like talking over the phone... By the way, ever wondered why the phone disconnects every hour when you call home? I used to joke saying "the tape ended". This is true - EVERY International call to Uzbekistan is recorded. Not everything is listened to, of course, but such things as "key/trigger words" do exist (for example "president", "birlik", "revolution", etc).
4) Do NOT use public computers (Internet cafe) in Uzbekistan! Even if you do, be very careful about what you visit. Do not chat online using public computers. Avoid signing in to any websites without SSL (https://).
5) Do NOT get too close to anyone on forum, unless you know who they are and know FOR SURE that they do not work for the government. Even then, be careful. Someone who does not work for the government today can be working for it tomorrow.
6) Those, who really want to find out who you are will try every method to get "closer" to you. They will PM you, email you, ask you to get online, ask you to share your contacts, etc. Stay away from them and ignore their requests.
7) If you have anything to be afraid of, do NOT share your pictures with other forum users. The world is small and people know you.
8) Nothing will protect you if a remote "worm" is executed on your PC. Goes without saying - install good virus/trojan/spyware protection software and make sure that it monitors your system well. Do not open email attachments from people you do not know. Right after rebooting your PC, before you open up any connections, go to the command prompt (Start->Run->cmd) and type "netstat -a" (close out of chat software and other software that connects to the Internet). Check out every line and make sure you do not have anything that says "ESTABLISHED". Use more-secure browsers such as Mozilla Firefox or Opera instead of Internet Explorer.

I will post more info later.

Please feel free to add more security-related stuff if you have any other suggestions.


Thank you!

Yours,
MegaZ

If I use VPN to place phone calls to Uzbekistan (I call outside of Uzbekistan), will that encrypt my phone calls?

What software can I use to encrypt my VoIP phone calls?

Qarama
09-24-2007, 07:35 PM
http://xerobank.com/xB_browser.html
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The main advantages compared to other anonymous web browsers is that xB Browser requires no configuration, technical knowledge, or installation in order to achieve anonymity. xB Browser is open source so you can feel safe knowing what goes into xB Browser. Additionally, it is even portable on a USB stick so you can take it to work, school, or on vacation."

http://noscript.net/
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spoon
09-24-2007, 08:33 PM
Megaz, what was the cause that made you to issue such a critical warning, if I may ask?
I think the affected users have the right to know if they're under online surveilance.

Auditor
09-24-2007, 10:52 PM
probably Megaz gets some WARNING from somewhere ...

maybe his investigations of shows that somebody is looking at us ...

who knows

n0xyl
09-25-2007, 01:53 AM
What can you advice for this one?:

1) If you are located in Uzbekistan, please use programs that encrypt your traffic via SSL or some other secure method. There are many ways to do this and we can go into more details on how to do this.

how can I secure my private e-mail while Im working with The BAT?

Используй gmail. В нем есть поддержка email клиентов. Google Talk можно использовать в качестве instant messenger по умолчанию.

Abu Hurayra
09-25-2007, 04:31 AM
Hi there,
I think Spoon and Auditor have reasonable arguement. Due to Presidental elections coming soon, maybe those people* want to warn or limit the free speech of Uzbek people. Thus opened any forum discussions about Politics in Uzb may "misslead" Uzbek online visitor of this forum or other parties.

whatever,
Keep strong people.

Inspiredmind
09-25-2007, 07:12 AM
Установив Tor для анонимности пользования Интернетом заходит например, Дельф на форум через анономайзер, и оставляет сообщение что он один из первых умидовцев, которые учились в Жоржия стэйт универе на программера. Также постит свою фотку в галереи. Вопрос: как быстро вычислят его настоящие данные, если Делфом заинтересуются компетентные органы? :) Примерно такая же картина и у всех нас. При желании можно составить полное досье на любого юзера, слишком уж много персональной информации разбросанно тут и там.

Но думаю, что основной массе форумчан беспокоиться не стоит, никому мы не нужны. А тем, кем заинтересовались спецслужбы уже ничто не поможет, те могут расслабиться и постараться получить удовольствие:)

soglasen, za chem i komu nujna molodejniy i studentcheskiy forum.
Da, ti prav,, nad kem uje specslujba zainteresovana uje nichego ne pomojet, a predyprejdeniya Megaza naoborot uskorayat' ix process sledstviya.:)

ya sam malen'kiy chelovek bez specialnix navikov, esli mne nado kakoy nib user naydu ix bez bolshix zatrudneniy, a spec slujbam delo ne do foruma. :D

I samoe glavnoe, ot 4ego mi boimsya a?
Ved' mi ne prestupniki, ne revolusioneri, etcc...xm...ne znayu mojet tyt ryadom sidet' bivshiy ili potensialniy prestupnik....

R.Azimov
09-25-2007, 01:24 PM
Men o'zimga to'g'ri odamman va shuning uchun hech qanaqa narsadan xavfsiramayman, qo'rqmayman ham! ;)


MegaZ ning "warning"i mening fikrimcha usha har xil bo'lmag'ur oqimlargayu, chalasavodlardan tashkil topgan dovdir muxolifatchilarga ilakishib qolishga moyil bo'lgan forum userlariga tegishli bo'lsa kerak...


O'zingga ehtiyot bo'l, qo'shningni o'g'ri tutma.





RA

Googler
09-25-2007, 01:43 PM
Если Вы находитесь "под разработкой" заинтересованных служб РУз или третьих стран, то Вас моментально вычислят, а это не составит для данных служб ни малейшего труда.

Мораль threadа автора в том, что -
Как таджики говорят - Шахар бедарвоза нест. :)

Пушкарева
09-25-2007, 01:51 PM
eto yest' novaya harakteristika stran 3go mira v dopolneniye k takoi kak uroven GDP na dushu i quality of life? :)

Если Вы находитесь "под разработкой" заинтересованных служб РУз или третьих стран, то Вас моментально вычислят, а это не составит для данных служб ни малейшего труда.

Мораль threadа автора в том, что -
Как таджики говорят - Шахар бедарвоза нест. :)

Darvesh
09-25-2007, 02:10 PM
eto yest' novaya harakteristika stran 3go mira v dopolneniye k takoi kak uroven GDP na dushu i quality of life? :)

Не дождетесь. :lol: Должен Вас разочаровать, Незабудка.. "Третья сторона, третье лицо" в русском языке означает foreigner, stranger, third party. Соответственно, термин "третьие страны" означает всего лишь "другие" страны.

Aziz
09-26-2007, 06:56 AM
guys...
for a safe web surfing I recommend "your freedom (http://forum.arbuz.com/www.your-freedom.net/)". It simply works as follows. You launch the program then you choose a server from a list of servers around the world including USA, Germany and France. After choosing the server you get connected to it and surf the web through that server. In other words, whoever is watching you thinks you're just browsing a page in that server. He doesn't know what you're doing. Unfortunately it gives you a maximum of 6 hours a day with 24 kbps. If you want full access and higher speed you have to pay:?.

KeSha
09-26-2007, 10:46 AM
Good evening forumers,

This is not the first time I talk about security on forum and I would like to reiterate it again. I just got more evidence that this forum is under a close watch of SNB and certain individuals working for the government (A.K.A. "Rats"). They profile forum users, especially the ones that talk freely about the government and participate in political discussions. Please use the following guide to protect your online identity, especially on forum.
You've noticed all users about monitoring that's real good job. Very well :Thank you:

[quote]1) If you are located in Uzbekistan, please use programs that encrypt your traffic via SSL or some other secure method. There are many ways to do this and we can go into more details on how to do this.

Could you describe it in advantage way. Such as what kind of software we should use for securely surfing on WWW?- You should know better us.
Thank you.

2) Avoid using MSN, Yahoo Messenger and other chat software with anyone who is physically located in Uzbekistan. Chat software is NOT secure and all of your communication can be easily "sniffed".

Yeah, they was start it to sniffining all ip packeges since 2005. I heard about that before. But, I didn't pay attention for that. Because, I don't have nothing to hide from our Government and against 'em. I don't care what's goin' on!

3) If you think that your Voice communication over Skype, Yahoo Messenger or other Voice over IP (VoIP) communication is secure - you are WRONG! Any type of VoIP communication can be easily sniffed and recorded. The only way to communicate securely is to encrypt the whole VoIP traffic. This can be done with some software and we can also discuss this later on in this thread. Of course, I wouldn't be worried much if both parties are outside of Uzbekistan, but if you are talking to someone who is in Uzbekistan, please be extremely careful. This is almost like talking over the phone... By the way, ever wondered why the phone disconnects every hour when you call home? I used to joke saying "the tape ended". This is true - EVERY International call to Uzbekistan is recorded. Not everything is listened to, of course, but such things as "key/trigger words" do exist (for example "president", "birlik", "revolution", etc).

At this point. Please, be so kind and let us know. Which software is better for enctypting all data's in the circle?
Thank you.

5) Do NOT get too close to anyone on forum, unless you know who they are and know FOR SURE that they do not work for the government. Even then, be careful. Someone who does not work for the government today can be working for it tomorrow.
So, now we can not get intouch each other even through online?- That was some weird notice from you :P

P.S. What about if you setup for UZ's people. Deny to get registered member at forum.uz or even if you want to leave that without permissions to signing up. Let's just do moderated registration system?

6) Those, who really want to find out who you are will try every method to get "closer" to you. They will PM you, email you, ask you to get online, ask you to share your contacts, etc. Stay away from them and ignore their requests.

Okay, now I got it. For what reasons online conference center it doesn't work anymore. I was thinkin' about it. May be everybody got scared from sneaky people Gov's authorities =))

I will post more info later.
Yes please keep noticed us. Thank you!

P.S. Now, I got scared after that MegaZ. What I'm gonna do now? =)

Please feel free to add more security-related stuff if you have any other suggestions.

Oh, definately I will do my best for all other members...

Thank you!

Yours,
a.k.a. KeSha

Atomic
09-27-2007, 02:23 AM
whatismyipaddress.com
buscatube.com/watch/y/xbbrowser/1/kzSaYxJjTRg/re-report-it.aspx

Odildustov
10-05-2007, 12:07 AM
Man tushunmadim; "forumdoshlaga portret" post qilingandan keyin bu post chiqarildi.
Lekin Atomicning linkidan uzimni qayerda turganimni kurib kuzim chiqib ketdi. bu dunyoda mahfiy narsa qolmadi uzi.
Megaz- bu forumni qachondan beri tekshirishayotganidan habariz yuqmi mabodo? yangi kirgan vaqtlarim juda siyosatshunostlik qilganakanman uziyam. :)
Yana bir fikr- forumga yangi kirayotganlaga mana shu shartlarni uqishga majbur qilib keyin azolikka utadigan qilib quyish kere programmani.

salom_alik
12-04-2007, 09:10 PM
salom o'ptim

menimcha sizlar yahoo messenger, msn, google talk.... etc.... shularni inernet orqali ishlatsangizlar balki install qilingan messengerdan ko'ra yahshiroq bo'lsa kerak...

masalan... www.ebuddy.com, www.meebo.com

va forum uz ga kirayotganda Unblock web saytlardan foydalansangizlar qaysi internet cafe da ekanligilar aniq bilisholmaydi...

masalan... www.live2you.info (yana ko'p kegincha qo'yaman hoz esimda yo'q)

UZB dagi haqiqatchilar o'zilani protect qililade nohaqlikdan OMAD yor bo'lsin :D... omadla