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eBouncer
09-26-2007, 05:49 AM
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/09/25/murray_usmanov_defiant/

Downed blogger Murray vows to continue Usmanov attacks

Ex-ambassador defiant in libel row
By Chris Williams → More by this author
Published Tuesday 25th September 2007 15:46 GMT

Former UK ambassador to Uzbekistan Craig Murray has vowed to carry on making allegations against billionaire Arsenal shareholder Alisher Usmanov, despite attempts to silence him and his supporters.

Murray told The Reg: "If the man believes he was libelled then he should take me to court."

Murray's blog was deleted by its host on Friday after threats from Usmanov's UK legal team. It's expected to reappear in the early hours of tomorrow on an overseas server, and will repeat the charges that drew heavy fire from specialist libel firm Schillings.

The ex-diplomat says he has contacted Schillings to ask for clarification of which specific aspect of his allegations they contest, but has not received a response. "They say my book [Murder in Samarkand] is 'grossly libellous and defamatory', yet it has been widely available for a year and has sold 25,000 copies, without their actually taking any legal action," he added.

Murray's criticism of Usmanov stems from his rise in Uzbekistan following the collapse of communism to become one of Russia's richest men. He denies the accusations. His profile in the UK has skyrocketed since he followed Chelsea chairman and fellow oligarch Roman Abramovich into football investment.

Murray's blog entry about Usmanov, made September 2, were picked up by many political and Arsenal websites which later also received complaints from Schillings. It became the third-highest hit on Google for the search "usmanov", but was quickly removed from Murray's site after the first legal letter.

Tim Ireland, who runs the political site Bloggerheads.com, which was downed along with Murray's site, has slammed Fasthosts' action, and denied the claim that they refused to comply with takedown requests after he repeated Murray's allegations.

Fasthosts says it acted according to standard industy practice and has declined to answer Reg questions.

Ireland said Fasthosts has so far failed to provide copies of two of the three complaints made by Schillings. "We don't have any of the correspondence despite multiple requests," he said.

The third complaint was made weeks after the September 2 post was removed. The takedown meant the Google robot instead indexed another piece Murray had penned in October 2005 that included the name.

On contact from Fasthosts, site administrator Clive Summerfield suspended the site and wrote back to Fasthosts to suggest that it, Schillings, Ireland and Murray liase on what was acceptable. Fasthosts responded by pulling the plug on his two dedicated servers on Friday.

Bloggerheads and crsigmurray.co.uk were part of a small stable of sites run by Summerfield. This connection explains the deletion of Tory mayoral hopeful Boris Johnson's site, despite it having no involvement in the Usmanov affair. The action also downed the website of the London Bach Society and an independent record label.

The new hosting has been arranged separately from the rest of Summerfield's sites - Murray believes that Usmanov's lawyers are trying to make him back down by attacking others.

We asked Murray if he intends to stay on Usmanov's back. He replied: "There is room on Usmanov's back for an awful lot of people. You could get even more on his stomach, and possibly lose some under the overlap of his chins."

We think that's a "yes".

Delf
09-26-2007, 08:05 AM
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kudrin
09-26-2007, 08:17 AM
Let him do his business. none of us perfect.

eBouncer
09-26-2007, 01:07 PM
Let him do his business. none of us perfect.

So can be said about any crooks and thugs, but it won't make them saints...

melo
09-26-2007, 01:40 PM
Let him do his business. none of us perfect.

you don't ever wonder how some people get rich so fast at the expense of everyone else? People always think I am crazy because I don't like rich people. But guess what, there are millions poor so one person can become rich. I think this is what we are talking about here too.

kudrin
09-27-2007, 08:34 AM
you don\'t ever wonder how some people get rich so fast at the expense of everyone else? People always think I am crazy because I don\'t like rich people. But guess what, there are millions poor so one person can become rich. I think this is what we are talking about here too.

dont hate rich people and dont hate noone. no point in doing this. at least this person doesnt take your money. he works in russia.

kudrin
09-27-2007, 08:39 AM
So can be said about any crooks and thugs, but it won\'t make them saints...

according to presumption of innocence noone is guilty until this is not proven. By the way this quote would better suite your signature dude. Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind. Albert Einstein

eBouncer
09-28-2007, 10:30 AM
according to presumption of innocence noone is guilty until this is not proven. By the way this quote would better suite your signature dude. Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind. Albert Einstein

This is not a theological discussion, so don't try to incite one. And it's none of your business what my signature should be, stick to your own. Speaking of presumption of innocence, would you also state that George Bush and his cronies are not the war profiteers just because there is no proof or compelling evidence ? The absence of evidence, is not the evidence of absence. Try not to obfuscate the obvious.

kudrin
09-28-2007, 01:22 PM
you are too smart. i give up.

eBouncer
09-28-2007, 02:30 PM
“A sarcastic person has a superiority complex that can be cured only by the honesty of humility.” - Lawrence G.Lovasik

melo
09-28-2007, 02:32 PM
dont hate rich people and dont hate noone. no point in doing this. at least this person doesnt take your money. he works in russia.

so based on this reasoning the US and western europe have the same right to steal from everyone to make themselves richer? :rolleyes:

kudrin
09-28-2007, 05:42 PM
melo.
you are totally right. otherwise let poor countries fight with them and get killed. have you ever thought is it natural to have super rich countries and super poor countries. or is it they are poor because they have no other choice?

kudrin
09-28-2007, 05:48 PM
ebouncer,
dont get mad at me. i really mean it.

idiom
09-28-2007, 11:24 PM
Jalkiy primer togo kak dengi vzyali vverh nad chestyu i chestnostyu.