New Party- Young Generation Force

[receiver]

I am working on creating and registering new "Young Generation Force" party in Uzbekistan.
It is a force which will have a vote in the next presidential elections.
This is a party of young generation who lives across the globe and who truly believe that Uzbekistan is their home and believe in prosperity of this Country. Country of Freedom and Progress, Stability and Evolution, Peace and Determination.

I believe us, young generation, can put change Uzbekistan, Our country, make it more independent and strengthen international relations and boarder control and security. We can make our country a place where our people will never think about leaving abroad and look for better place to live. I want us to be a place of higher standards, freedom and entrepreneurial atmosphere.
I know that People of Uzbekistan never get tired to work if there are good perspectives in the near future.

Everyone says, even bad or good presidents, all say that future lays in our young generation. So here we are let's make a change. Let's start it now and let’s make it happen. I know this presidential election will be tough and we have to learn from each step and how to stand up for ourselves.

Let us come together!

Suggestions, solutions and feedback always welcome!

Want to make a difference? Share how you think you can contribute to this project.

Administrators- I would appreciate if you will make this thread sticky.

Receiver

[Demir Kağan]

More information requested.

[Royal]

why FORCE ???

[satik]

I am working on creating and registering new "Young Generation Force" party in Uzbekistan.
It is a force which will have a vote in the next presidential elections.
This is a party of young generation who lives across the globe and who truly believe that Uzbekistan is their home and believe in prosperity of this Country. Country of Freedom and Progress, Stability and Evolution, Peace and Determination.

I believe us, young generation, can put change Uzbekistan, Our country, make it more independent and strengthen international relations and boarder control and security. We can make our country a place where our people will never think about leaving abroad and look for better place to live. I want us to be a place of higher standards, freedom and entrepreneurial atmosphere.
I know that People of Uzbekistan never get tired to work if there are good perspectives in the near future.

Everyone says, even bad or good presidents, all say that future lays in our young generation. So here we are let's make a change. Let's start it now and let’s make it happen. I know this presidential election will be tough and we have to learn from each step and how to stand up for ourselves.

Let us come together!

Suggestions, solutions and feedback always welcome!

Want to make a difference? Share how you think you can contribute to this project.

Administrators- I would appreciate if you will make this thread sticky.

Receiver

The idea is good enough to try.
I am for such initiatives.
But, how could you support the argument that We should join YOU ?

[receiver]

Answers:
- Demir K.: Information is You. If you belive in the future change and you belive you can make a difference even tiny bit, even it is low scale. it counts. Eveyone has a dream on how they could make their country to make a better place. So Look for more information with-in. It is comining and will be coming more and more.

- Royal: Force because we have 7 more years to go and we need alot of power and motivation dedcation to make a change. we need your strength to make this party to move on and succeed. We will need great amount of time and effords to make our country to prosper. That's why it is FORCE of You and Me and all others who belive Uzbekistan should Stand Up and get out of this struggle.

- Satic: There is no Me. You joining US. We are a team. There is no personal gain. What ever We will do, We are going to do it for our country and our people, for our parents, for our brother and sisters. If anyone considering personal gain they are not supposed to be here. I know that We have to do this, and only US can do this!

[corsair]

"yosh kuch" ekanda ...

[Alee]

If this is a party/force to be established in UZbekistan, why are you writing in English, not national language - Uzbek?

[Ulug'bek]

I am working on creating and registering new "Young Generation Force" party in Uzbekistan.
It is a force which will have a vote in the next presidential elections.
This is a party of young generation who lives across the globe and who truly believe that Uzbekistan is their home and believe in prosperity of this Country. Country of Freedom and Progress, Stability and Evolution, Peace and Determination.

I believe us, young generation, can put change Uzbekistan, Our country, make it more independent and strengthen international relations and boarder control and security. We can make our country a place where our people will never think about leaving abroad and look for better place to live. I want us to be a place of higher standards, freedom and entrepreneurial atmosphere.
I know that People of Uzbekistan never get tired to work if there are good perspectives in the near future.

Everyone says, even bad or good presidents, all say that future lays in our young generation. So here we are let's make a change. Let's start it now and let’s make it happen. I know this presidential election will be tough and we have to learn from each step and how to stand up for ourselves.

Let us come together!

Suggestions, solutions and feedback always welcome!

Want to make a difference? Share how you think you can contribute to this project.

Administrators- I would appreciate if you will make this thread sticky.

Receiver

Interesting.

Registering where? In Uzb.? If so, did you ever hear what "Birlik" has faced in this regard for the past several years?


Which elections? late this year on the 23rd?
Aren't you too late?

Is it a type of new "Bolg'a, demokratiya uchun olg'a'!" :)

I would be looking forward to recieve more info about this, because I myself was thinking a little bit :) about establishing a political party "Musulmon Demokratlar" (Muslim Democrats) or something like that...

Just a daydream...:)


ps. Based on your answers, I would make further comments...

[UzLand]

Interesting.

Registering where? In Uzb.? If so, did you ever hear what "Birlik" has faced in this regard for the past several years?

Birlik is not the best example in this case. It is possible for Uzbeks to organize into a group and register their party. A new one. Without any baggage.

But like it was said here, people would like to know more about it. In Uzbek as well.

[receiver]

- Alee: Tanqid Kelajakni mevasi degande... Maslahatiz uchun rahmat. inobatka olamiza va to'g'irlimiza!

- Ulug'bek: Partiyani O'zbekistanoda royhatka tushiramiza. Bu partiyani kengi saylovga tayorlab borish niyatimiz bor... Bu degani kelasi 6yilda kuchimizni birlashtirib O'zbekistonga tog'ri va sog'lom yolga qoyishka harakat qilamiza.
Qorqishka kelsek... u narsa (qorquv) hammada bor. Lekin boshqalar undan fydalanishga ruhsat va yol bermimiz. Agar hammamiz birga bo'lsak, qorquv va hiyonatlarni, hammasini yengamiza.

[Пушкарева]

receiver - what do you do in DC?

[corsair]

we need more info...

-partiya qaysi tuzumni qo'llab quvatlaydi?
-g'oya bormi? siyosiy yo'nalish/din...
-kimlarga mo'lgallangan, qaysi qatlam, yosh/jins?
-siz kimsiz, nima bilan shug'ullanasiz, nimaga endi hozir partiya tuzush haqida o'ylab qoldingiz?
-o'tmishda partiya azosi bo'lganmisiz?
-oz'ingiz bilasangiz kerak, partiya bu juda qimmat tashkilot... kim sponsorlik qiladi, uzbekistonliklar, evropaliklar, amerikaliklarmi?
-nima uchun "bulajak sponsorlar" bu partiyani qo'llab quvatlashadi? qiziqishlari nimada? hech kim bekorga bir nima qilmaydi...


omad...

[Ulug'bek]

Birlik is not the best example in this case. It is possible for Uzbeks to organize into a group and register their party. A new one. Without any baggage.

But like it was said here, people would like to know more about it. In Uzbek as well.


What I ment was that if he is planning to establish a real opposition party and register it in Uzb., then he must know that it is a hard mission if not impossible, as it happened to Birlik and even to Sunshine Uzbekistan, I guess...


- Ulug'bek: Partiyani O'zbekistanoda royhatka tushiramiza. Bu partiyani kengi saylovga tayorlab borish niyatimiz bor... Bu degani kelasi 6yilda kuchimizni birlashtirib O'zbekistonga tog'ri va sog'lom yolga qoyishka harakat qilamiza.
Qorqishka kelsek... u narsa (qorquv) hammada bor. Lekin boshqalar undan fydalanishga ruhsat va yol bermimiz. Agar hammamiz birga bo'lsak, qorquv va hiyonatlarni, hammasini yengamiza.

So it was all about the elections in 2014...
Well, if our king lives until then, there will be no elections, we will opt for turkmeni way, wich is the safest for him...:)

Too long to wait for, although it is possible that this might be the right way of dealing with situation in Uzb.

Anyway, I wish you all the best...

By the way, did you get married or not yet? :)

[corsair]

btw, uzbekchasiga partiyani nomi nima bo'ladi?

"yosh avlod kuchi" bo'lmasa keragov...

[MUHLIS]

- Alee: Tanqid Kelajakni mevasi degande... Maslahatiz uchun rahmat. inobatka olamiza va to'g'irlimiza!

- Ulug'bek: Partiyani O'zbekistanoda royhatka tushiramiza. Bu partiyani kengi saylovga tayorlab borish niyatimiz bor... Bu degani kelasi 6yilda kuchimizni birlashtirib O'zbekistonga tog'ri va sog'lom yolga qoyishka harakat qilamiza.
Qorqishka kelsek... u narsa (qorquv) hammada bor. Lekin boshqalar undan fydalanishga ruhsat va yol bermimiz. Agar hammamiz birga bo'lsak, qorquv va hiyonatlarni, hammasini yengamiza.
Kegin nima qiluvuza?

[corsair]

Kegin nima qiluvuza?

"indan keyinch" debsizda ... :-D

[Aziz]

The idea is great...but as brothers and sisters asked: what are your goals? we need more details.

[cianore]

Qiziq... juda ham qiziq...
bu yerdagi hammani partiyaning asosiy g'oyasi va 'orqasida turadiganlar' juda va juda qiziqtiradi. Harqalay, bizga Otpor kere-mas, keyin O'zbekistonni kimningdir marionetkasiga aylantiradigan...

2-dan, kelgusi prezident saylovlariga... Demak, kimdadir prezidentlik orzusi tug'ilgan va biz uni qo'llav quvvatlashimiz kere-mi? Siz va Biz deb murojaat qilish to'g'ri, lekin bo'lg'usi Prezidentimiz Siz va Bizni o'ylaydilarmi yoki asl maqsad 'jiz va biz' mi?

va hokazo...
ko'p masalaga avval oydinlik kiritish kerak ekan shekilli...

[1985eva]

I am working on creating and registering new "Young Generation Force" party in Uzbekistan.
It is a force which will have a vote in the next presidential elections.
This is a party of young generation who lives across the globe and who truly believe that Uzbekistan is their home and believe in prosperity of this Country. Country of Freedom and Progress, Stability and Evolution, Peace and Determination.

I believe us, young generation, can put change Uzbekistan, Our country, make it more independent and strengthen international relations and boarder control and security. We can make our country a place where our people will never think about leaving abroad and look for better place to live. I want us to be a place of higher standards, freedom and entrepreneurial atmosphere.
I know that People of Uzbekistan never get tired to work if there are good perspectives in the near future.

Everyone says, even bad or good presidents, all say that future lays in our young generation. So here we are let's make a change. Let's start it now and let’s make it happen. I know this presidential election will be tough and we have to learn from each step and how to stand up for ourselves.

Let us come together!

Suggestions, solutions and feedback always welcome!

Want to make a difference? Share how you think you can contribute to this project.

Administrators- I would appreciate if you will make this thread sticky.

Receiver


Receiver,

I think it is a good initiative. Don't let criticism and cautiousness of users here discourage your goals.
To ALL USERS, I would like to note that we all know Uzbeks in general are passive, everybody you speak to say they don't want to be involved in politics, nobody until lately, until it became unbearable, complained about Karimov. I mean come on, for the sake of developing an independent mindset and a civic society we need to encourage independent movements, especially among young people! Our population is largely under 25! This is our future...
Ask the right questions and the right way, and offer constructive feedback. Some questions here are like, "you want to sell me a product, so I want to know all the disclaimers in addition to the advertising."
USERS, how many, please tell me how many independent Uzbek active youth movements are there?!

To Receiver: I think you need to share your ideas and vision. Also, describe the status of the movement. Is it just you, 2 people, 10? What is already done, or is it in the initial stage?Say what kind of help is needed on this stage. The more information you provide in an educational way, and also asking for support, the more people will be willing to discuss it.

PS. TO EVERYBODY: Please, keep it in ENGLISH. More people speak/understand English here than either Russian or Uzbek. Some users on the Forum do not understand Uzbek.
THANKS FOR CONSIDERATION.

[gentle]

receiver - what do you do in DC?


Getting knowledge of democracy in WH:D

[kipchak]

why don't you start from making yourself public to forum users?

Hint: make up a good story, find a decent picture, and find a good name. And then start writing your fairytale here.

[UzLand]

Hint: make up a good story, find a decent picture, and find a good name. And then start writing your fairytale here.

:lool: :lool: :lool: :lool:

[1985eva]

why don't you start from making yourself public to forum users?

Hint: make up a good story, find a decent picture, and find a good name. And then start writing your fairytale here.

Mr.Kipchak sounds soo cynical. I don't know to smile or to cry...

[SAMARKANDI!]

Is this Uzland trying to realize his dream ? :D Who is behind this? :D

IAK dan soradilarmi buni? :)

[Uyyonli]

How about another type party might be popular, and has the same meaning the powerfull ones existed? let's Say " Yosh O'zbeklar" yoki Yosh Turkistonlik

[receiver]

I see everyone busy analyzing why me and who am i, what are my goal.

My main idea is not about being a president, but about making our country a better place to live.

My concern is why Uzbeks why you guys hesitate to go back home, why everyone is trying to escape? why don't you like living in Uzbekistan.

I am starting a party so you guys can share what needs to be done and if we are together what we can do to make this change.
If it was to me to be a president i would be running as a independent candidate. I would not need your opinion about anything.

The party is in very initial stage. it is just here and there in writing but nothing official as yet.
Someone asked what i am doing in US or Washington DC. trying to make a ground so i can go back home and start concentrating on this issue.

The idea to make a country a better place to live and there are a lot of ways to achieve it. Particularly for our country, it is much to be done and a lot to be changed. I cannot say we have to just change this or that.

That's why i would like us to debate and how to proceed in the future. you cannot expect only one person to be savvy in all fields.
First step to make a web site, and make everyone to register to it and participate and read the updates...

it is a long way to go and if everyone will join and act as one piece we can make a difference.

I will release my identity as time will come...

if anyone interested in helping in this matter. please let me know

thanks for cooperation and support

receiver

[Delf]

Receiver, if you are serious, please post some information about yourself, particularly:

Full Name,
Education
Brief biography
Current employer
Previous experience in founding/leading organization, especially politically-oriented.

Otherwise your post is just one big BS.

Sincerely,
Delf.

[kipchak]

I see everyone busy analyzing why me and who am i, what are my goal.

My main idea is not about being a president, but about making our country a better place to live.

My concern is why Uzbeks why you guys hesitate to go back home, why everyone is trying to escape? why don't you like living in Uzbekistan.

I am starting a party so you guys can share what needs to be done and if we are together what we can do to make this change.
If it was to me to be a president i would be running as a independent candidate. I would not need your opinion about anything.

The party is in very initial stage. it is just here and there in writing but nothing official as yet.
Someone asked what i am doing in US or Washington DC. trying to make a ground so i can go back home and start concentrating on this issue.

The idea to make a country a better place to live and there are a lot of ways to achieve it. Particularly for our country, it is much to be done and a lot to be changed. I cannot say we have to just change this or that.

That's why i would like us to debate and how to proceed in the future. you cannot expect only one person to be savvy in all fields.
First step to make a web site, and make everyone to register to it and participate and read the updates...

it is a long way to go and if everyone will join and act as one piece we can make a difference.

I will release my identity as time will come...

if anyone interested in helping in this matter. please let me know

thanks for cooperation and support

receiver


По моему этот юзер точно в сказку попал:))

[receiver]

Delf:
I am 28 Years Old, and i have business degree from University in Tashkent.
I have no experience running political organization.
Currently affiliated with non-profit orgnaization.

Kipchak:
You have 3 options
1. To live in IAK sufferland
2. Hide in US/Foreign wonderland
3. Join my dreamland where you will make a difference.

Again, this is not about me. it is about you, about what you can do for the future of Uzbekistan. What you will do for your borthers and sisters. It is about future of our Country.


Thanks:

[UzLand]

Delf:
I am 28 Years Old, and i have business degree from University in Tashkent.
I have no experience running political organization.
Currently affiliated with non-profit orgnaization.

Kipchak:
You have 3 options
1. To live in IAK sufferland
2. Hide in US/Foreign wonderland
3. Join my dreamland where you will make a difference.

Again, this is not about me. it is about you, about what you can do for the future of Uzbekistan. What you will do for your borthers and sisters. It is about future of our Country.


Thanks:

If you get a team, talk to IRI and/or NDI and they will help you with training on how to run a political organization. That's what they usually do, work with political groups.

[FaraDxb]

да здраствуют рожденные в совке!!! наша отличительная черта что, когда возникает новое предложение или идея мы всегда начинаем искать только негативные стороны типа: не пойдет, бомиди, а вдруг так, а вдруг через ж. получится.. и все стоп, так и остается идеей.. а про бенефиты даже не думаем даже не пытаемся.. а не наоборот... не заметили? типа инан кейинчи..касается и бизнеса. надесь не оффтоп.

[SAMARKANDI!]

да здраствуют рожденные в совке!!! наша отличительная черта что, когда возникает новое предложение или идея мы всегда начинаем искать только негативные стороны типа: не пойдет, бомиди, а вдруг так, а вдруг через ж. получится.. и все стоп, так и остается идеей.. а про бенефиты даже не думаем даже не пытаемся.. а не наоборот... не заметили? типа инан кейинчи..касается и бизнеса. надесь не оффтоп.

No i think this is offtop :lol: this contradicts uzbek mentality, so must be offtop :D

p.s. u r right

[Delf]

So, you are trying to register a political party in Uzbekistan being anonymous? :lool::lool::lool:

Delf.

Delf:
I am 28 Years Old, and i have business degree from University in Tashkent.
I have no experience running political organization.
Currently affiliated with non-profit orgnaization.

Kipchak:
You have 3 options
1. To live in IAK sufferland
2. Hide in US/Foreign wonderland
3. Join my dreamland where you will make a difference.

Again, this is not about me. it is about you, about what you can do for the future of Uzbekistan. What you will do for your borthers and sisters. It is about future of our Country.


Thanks:

[erkak#1]

One more blind-patriot :lol:

[receiver]

Dear everyone:

I understand that my anonymity creates doubt in you.

But again. even you know my name, i do not think it will change anything. It is just what you need at this moment. Like my son was aking me to buy a firetruck in walmart.

Just imagine my name of Mr. Receiver Tolqinovich. will it change anything to you. it will be another topic to lough. that's the way i see it.

Instead, i would say some useful ideas on how to make this thing work and make it to reality.

You are like "ne ribo-ne myaso", if you do not like the idea and movement, create your own, maybe i will follow you, or say something useful, which will make me act and think on this or that issue.

make a suggestion on how we have to act and what has to be done.

you guys talk about the current news. but anyone of you come-up with idea how to prevent it in the future? or how to change it or how to protest against anything like that?

what i see in your discussions your opinion about some news you got from Internet. even polls do not reflect actual results. in one poll you had only 54 votes?

If you guys, are serious enough, everyone can bring something to the table. and we can change it. I do not want to be limited on users in this forum... I started here, and we have to go around the globe. engage in media and make ourselves public when time comes and we will have a full force.

Again it is not only about me, and being a president and that's it. As to me, i would sit at home with my kids and do not worry about political pressure i will have on me and my family. I have fear too, not for myself but for my family. and you think i am risking all this just for fun? Is it a fairy tale?

Hurmat ila

Receiver.

[Uzbekxonim]

Good idea, but unfortunately, unrealistic one.

[1985eva]

Good idea, but unfortunately, unrealistic one.

I believe Receiver didn't open this thread here for Users to qualify it as either "realistic" or "unrealistic" or in any other way to categorize it. If you are not interested, at least don't put someone's efforts down. If you have recommendations, do just that constructively.

[cianore]

I see everyone busy analyzing why me and who am i, what are my goal.

My main idea is not about being a president, but about making our country a better place to live.

My concern is why Uzbeks why you guys hesitate to go back home, why everyone is trying to escape? why don't you like living in Uzbekistan.

I am starting a party so you guys can share what needs to be done and if we are together what we can do to make this change.
If it was to me to be a president i would be running as a independent candidate. I would not need your opinion about anything.

The party is in very initial stage. it is just here and there in writing but nothing official as yet.
Someone asked what i am doing in US or Washington DC. trying to make a ground so i can go back home and start concentrating on this issue.

The idea to make a country a better place to live and there are a lot of ways to achieve it. Particularly for our country, it is much to be done and a lot to be changed. I cannot say we have to just change this or that.

That's why i would like us to debate and how to proceed in the future. you cannot expect only one person to be savvy in all fields.
First step to make a web site, and make everyone to register to it and participate and read the updates...

it is a long way to go and if everyone will join and act as one piece we can make a difference.

I will release my identity as time will come...

if anyone interested in helping in this matter. please let me know

thanks for cooperation and support

receiver

Zo'r gaplar bo'ptiyu, inglizcha bo'ptida..

Gap shundaki, DC da demokratiyani o'rganishizni o'zi userlarning yarmida shubha uyg'otadi: yana bitta pro-american?

Hech kim sizni shaxsan yoki umuman bilmaydi. savol tug'iladi: kim o'zi bu va asl maqsadi nima?

Uchinchidan: olg'a yurish uchun eng yaxshisi o'z maqsad va rejalarizni, xayolizdagi harakat qanday bo'lish kerakligi haqidagi g'oyalarizni biroz baham ko'ring, yordam bersa ajab emas.

To'g'risi, man harakat a'zosi bo'lishim mumkin, lekin harakat g'oyalari mandagi dunyoqarash va fikrlarga mos ham kelishi kerak-ku.

[UzLand]

To'g'risi, man harakat a'zosi bo'lishim mumkin, lekin harakat g'oyalari mandagi dunyoqarash va fikrlarga mos ham kelishi kerak-ku.

Сиз дунекарашизи белгилаб берадиган сиесий тестимиздан утдингизми?:)

http://forum.arbuz.com/showthread.php?t=42186

[cianore]

Сиз дунекарашизи белгилаб берадиган сиесий тестимиздан утдингизми?:)

http://forum.arbuz.com/showthread.php?t=42186

Avvalo, link uchun tashakkur.
Kim ekanligimni, bu testsiz ham aytib bera olaman zarur bo'lsa. Har qalay partiyaning o'ng va so'l qanotlarini ham kimdir shakllantirishi kerak-ku...:D

[Sag'bonlik_qiz]

если подобная структура не будет пропитана дешевыми речевками о демократии в духе вашингтонских Ndi и Iri, я с вами, ребята!..только давайте поскорее,а то с такими темпами реформ в узбекистане, скоро мы благополучно состаримся ;)

[UzLand]

если подобная структура не будет пропитана дешевыми речевками о демократии в духе вашингтонских Ndi и Iri, я с вами, ребята!..только давайте поскорее,а то с такими темпами реформ в узбекистане, скоро мы благополучно состаримся ;)

Не смешите, сагбонлик...вас уже на работу в фонд "Политика" взяли? звучите также как и Ахборот...

ну, давайте, толкните тут тогда свою речевку про великое будущее...

[Uzbekxonim]

I believe Receiver didn't open this thread here for Users to qualify it as either "realistic" or "unrealistic" or in any other way to categorize it. If you are not interested, at least don't put someone's efforts down. If you have recommendations, do just that constructively.
Dear 1985eva,
i consider my comment as a constructive critique as the idea is good (as i told before) but wrap up of it is unrealistic. if one has clear goal and wants to succeed in reaching it, he/she would never attaract supporters without clear strategy and anonimously

[melo]

From experience I believe anything coming out of Washington DC should be scrutinized completely. Sorry but that alone makes me very suspicious. I am guessing you have wonderful funding then too? :lol:

Also, it is very ironic Washington DC would be the place a new political party would form. :lol: Despite what you may have heard it is not exactly the center of democracy.

[UzLand]

From experience I believe anything coming out of Washington DC should be scrutinized completely. Sorry but that alone makes me very suspicious. I am guessing you have wonderful funding then too? :lol:

Also, it is very ironic Washington DC would be the place a new political party would form. :lol: Despite what you may have heard it is not exactly the center of democracy.

would you, guys, be ok if it came from, let's say, New Jersey:) or, hmm, Las-Vegas?:)

[melo]

would you, guys, be ok if it came from, let's say, New Jersey:) or, hmm, Las-Vegas?:)

How about a place that doesn't have a long and troubled history with meddling in other governments? It just looks better. We could just list the address as Langley, VA. :lol:

[UzLand]

How about a place that doesn't have a long and troubled history with meddling in other governments? It just looks better. We could just list the address as Langley, VA. :lol:

:lool: :lool: :lool:

[cianore]

would you, guys, be ok if it came from, let's say, New Jersey:) or, hmm, Las-Vegas?:)

I strongly believe it should come out somewhere from Uzbekistan. Otherwise, we are all strangers for the entire conservative nation of Uzbekistan..

[1985eva]

I strongly believe it should come out somewhere from Uzbekistan. Otherwise, we are all strangers for the entire conservative nation of Uzbekistan..

It would be valid to say that the entire nation of Uzbekistan has one foot outside of it. Almost everybody I know has some immediate family member abroad. We are not strangers.Most of those inside are- taboo topics are expanding in size.

[Sag'bonlik_qiz]

Не смешите, сагбонлик...вас уже на работу в фонд "Политика" взяли? звучите также как и Ахборот...

ну, давайте, толкните тут тогда свою речевку про великое будущее...

Слышьте, Узланд, на работу меня взяли сразу и без разговоров. Но вот КАК я думаю о гнилых IRI и NDI будет отличаться от вашего, даже если придется драить полы в посольстве США...

[cianore]

It would be valid to say that the entire nation of Uzbekistan has one foot outside of it. Almost everybody I know has some immediate family member abroad. We are not strangers.Most of those inside are- taboo topics are expanding in size.

I partially agree with you, but when it comes to political movement the nation of Uzbekistan believes that any party born in abroad is an absurd, and I think it's because of Erk, Birlik, etc. and the propaganda of Uzbek mass media.

[1985eva]

I partially agree with you, but when it comes to political movement the nation of Uzbekistan believes that any party born in abroad is an absurd, and I think it's because of Erk, Birlik, etc. and the propaganda of Uzbek mass media.

The nation of Uzbekistan believes in homegrown political movements then. Yeah, in fact let's do away with those abroad. We have plenty of movements at home. Except maybe Greenpeace, right?

[Factory girl]

I am working on creating and registering new "Young Generation Force" party in Uzbekistan.
It is a force which will have a vote in the next presidential elections.
This is a party of young generation who lives across the globe and who truly believe that Uzbekistan is their home and believe in prosperity of this Country. Country of Freedom and Progress, Stability and Evolution, Peace and Determination.

I believe us, young generation, can put change Uzbekistan, Our country, make it more independent and strengthen international relations and boarder control and security. We can make our country a place where our people will never think about leaving abroad and look for better place to live. I want us to be a place of higher standards, freedom and entrepreneurial atmosphere.
I know that People of Uzbekistan never get tired to work if there are good perspectives in the near future.

Everyone says, even bad or good presidents, all say that future lays in our young generation. So here we are let's make a change. Let's start it now and let’s make it happen. I know this presidential election will be tough and we have to learn from each step and how to stand up for ourselves.

Let us come together!

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Receiver

eto konechno je ochen' interesnoe predlojenie...
no kak mojno ob etom govoit' znaya situaciyu kotoraya proishodit v Uzbekistane, nikto ne dast molodomu pokoleniyu chto libo sdelat'
nash President "soglasilsa eshe odin srok pobit' presidento":rolleyes:
zvuchit tak budto bi ego kajdiy den' narod ugovarival eto sdelat'...
sama lichno slishala o tom chto sluchilos' s lyud'mi kotorie popitalis' hot' chto-to sdelat', chtobi izmenit' politicheskiy stroy v Uzbekistane, I GDE ONI VSE SEYCHAS????
Young generation Force po sravneniyu s Old Generation of Politics--- eto kak pil' v pustine...
u menya nekotorie voprosi:
1. kakie konstruktivnie idei so storoni procvetayushey molodeji, ne pokajutsya nashemu pravitel'stvu "teoriey zagovora"
2. otkuda vi predpochitaete nachat' deystvovat' s zagranici ili v Uzbekistane?
3. Esli deystvovat' sidya v Uzb, gde garantaiya o tom chto zavtra ne pridut i ne posadat? Where is safety?
4. Deystvovat' iz zagranici???? kak?


vot naprimer sobralis' silnie molodie lyudi (puskay oni vo vsem mire) poyavilas' genial'naya ideya...
a teper' eyo nado voploshat' v jizn', kto etim budet zanimatsya? podrazdeleniye v Uzb, kotoroe ne budet funkcional'no uje cherez 1-2 posle poyavleniya?

v nashem pravitel'stve est' svoi ustanovlennie pravila, i ih nikto ne sobiraetsya narasht', i nikomu ne nujna zolotaya molodej s genial'nimi ideyami...
esli bi bili nujni molodie talanti, nikto bi ne sidel za granicey, i ne skuchal bi po rodnim, i ne prigovarival "a chto tam delat'?"

respect

[Factory girl]

:) Mojno etot post spokoyno skopirovat' v nashu besedu o tzinizme/idealizme.

da vi pravi :)
inogda v jizni prihoditsya mislit' kak cinnik...
no soglasites' na politicheskuyu problemu v Uzb bez cinizma ne posmotrish
no eto skoree ne cinizm, tak kak vsem izvestno chto seychas proishodit, eto skoree konstataciya facta v lichno izlojennoy tochke zreniya...

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[Darvesh]

:) Mojno etot post spokoyno skopirovat' v nashu besedu o tzinizme/idealizme.

Только поправте пожалуйста некоторые термины, которые вы используете в своей беседе, если хотите чтобы это была именно беседа, а не шоу-офф. Например, можно смело убрать словосочетание "золотая молодежь" из текста, так как этот термин обозначает совсем другие понятия. Термин "теория заговора" тоже не к месту использован, имхо. И так далее и тому подобное.

[Factory girl]

ne nado obrashat' vnimaniya na detali, samoe glavnoe chtobi smisl bil ponayaten...
pod slovom "zolotaya molodej"---ya imela vvidu ne papinkih dochek i sinkov, a deystvitel'no dostoynih lyudey

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Только поправте пожалуйста некоторые термины, которые вы используете в своей беседе, если хотите чтобы это была именно беседа, а не шоу-офф. Например, можно смело убрать словосочетание "золотая молодежь" из текста, так как этот термин обозначает совсем другие понятия. Термин "теория заговора" тоже не к месту использован, имхо. И так далее и тому подобное.

[cianore]

The nation of Uzbekistan believes in homegrown political movements then. Yeah, in fact let's do away with those abroad. We have plenty of movements at home. Except maybe Greenpeace, right?

Of course, they do, if any political party can show up as a real political/national movement. Unfortunately, I didn't see it yet..

I wish I did... :)

[1985eva]

Receiver:

Does your initiative here have any relation to Uyg'on O'zbekiston?

[askarovd]

good idea.

good idea.

good idea.

[UzLand]

good idea.

good idea.

good idea.

Агент Аскаров. Ваш первый пост удачно принят:)

[Octavarium]

One quick note – Uzbek Ministry of Justice will never register a party called Young Generation Force – they strongly detest any word combination involving force, it was just a friendly piece of advice; otherwise, go for it, good idea.

[cianore]

Агент Аскаров. Ваш первый пост удачно принят:)

Qo'ysangizchi, janob UzLand, endi hamma agent, shpion, o'g'ri, muttaham, qaroqchi bo'laverarkanda... Bechora, xali endi ilk marotaba post submit qilgan bo'lsa, xali uni tanimasak ham...

[UzLand]

Qo'ysangizchi, janob UzLand, endi hamma agent, shpion, o'g'ri, muttaham, qaroqchi bo'laverarkanda... Bechora, xali endi ilk marotaba post submit qilgan bo'lsa, xali uni tanimasak ham...

Америкада сугурта агенти, брокерлик агенти булиш мумкин ва яна куплаб бошка агентлар:)

[cianore]

Америкада сугурта агенти, брокерлик агенти булиш мумкин ва яна куплаб бошка агентлар:)

Kechirasiz, masalaga faqat siyosiy yondoshganim uchun, yoshmizda xali...

[Shokirbek]

Америкада сугурта агенти, брокерлик агенти булиш мумкин ва яна куплаб бошка агентлар:)

Axborot agentligini ham qo'shib qo'ying.. :)

[UzLand]

Axborot agentligini ham qo'shib qo'ying.. :)



Ахборот агентлиги бор-у, лекин ахборот агентлари йук-да:)

[cianore]

Ахборот агентлиги бор-у, лекин ахборот агентлари йук-да:)

Axborot agentlari, asli ularni shunday deyish kerak, bor, lekin baribir ular biroz so'zga qolganlardan ko'ra ustaroq bo'lganliklari uchun, o'zlariga boshqa, unchalik ham quloqqa g'alati eshitilmaydigan qilib nom tanlab olishgan...