Nice Guys Finish Last?

[The Reaper]

Found this piece today, called "Ode to the Nice Guys".

Ode to the Nice Guys

This is a tribute to the nice guys. The nice guys that finish last, that never become more than friends, that endure hours of whining and bitching about what assholes guys are, while disproving the very point. This is dedicated to those guys who always provide a shoulder to lean on but restrain themselves to tentative hugs, those guys who hold open doors and give reassuring pats on the back and sit patiently outside the changing room at department stores. This is in honor of the guys that obligingly reiterate how cute/beautiful/smart/funny/sexy their female friends are at the appropriate moment, because they know most girls need that litany of support. This is in honor of the guys with open minds, with laid-back attitudes, with honest concern. This is in honor of the guys who respect a girl’s every facet, from her privacy to her theology to her clothing style.

This is for the guys who escort their drunk, bewildered female friends back from parties and never take advantage once they’re at her door, for the guys who accompany girls to bars as buffers against the rest of the creepy male population, for the guys who know a girl is fishing for compliments but give them out anyway, for the guys who always play by the rules in a game where the rules favor cheaters, for the guys who are accredited as boyfriend material but somehow don’t end up being boyfriends, for all the nice guys who are overlooked, underestimated, and unappreciated, for all the nice guys who are manipulated, misled, and unjustly abandoned, this is for you.

This is for that time she left 40 urgent messages on your cell phone, and when you called her back, she spent three hours painstakingly dissecting two sentences her boyfriend said to her over dinner. And even though you thought her boyfriend was a chump and a jerk, you assured her that it was all ok and she shouldn’t worry about it. This is for that time she interrupted the best killing spree you’d ever orchestrated in GTA3 to rant about a rumor that romantically linked her and the guy she thinks is the most repulsive person in the world. And even though you thought it was immature and you had nothing against the guy, you paused the game for two hours and helped her concoct a counter-rumor to spread around the floor. This is also for that time she didn’t have a date, so after numerous vows that there was nothing “serious” between the two of you, she dragged you to a party where you knew nobody, the beer was awful, and she flirted shamelessly with you, justifying each fit of reckless teasing by announcing to everyone: “oh, but we’re just friends!” And even though you were invited purely as a symbolic warm body for her ego, you went anyways. Because you’re nice like that.

The nice guys don’t often get credit where credit is due. And perhaps more disturbing, the nice guys don’t seem to get laid as often as they should. And I wish I could logically explain this trend, but I can’t. From what I have observed on campus and what I have learned from talking to friends at other schools and in the workplace, the only conclusion I can form is that many girls are just illogical, manipulative bitches. Many of them claim they just want to date a nice guy, but when presented with such a specimen, they say irrational, confusing things such as “oh, he’s too nice to date” or “he would be a good boyfriend but he’s not for me” or “he already puts up with so much from me, I couldn’t possibly ask him out!” or the most frustrating of all: “no, it would ruin our friendship.” Yet, they continue to lament the lack of datable men in the world, and they expect their too-nice-to-date male friends to sympathize and apologize for the men that are jerks. Sorry, guys, girls like that are beyond my ability to fathom. I can’t figure out why the connection breaks down between what they say (I want a nice guy!) and what they do (I’m going to sleep with this complete ass now!). But one thing I can do, is say that the nice-guy-finishes-last phenomenon doesn’t last forever. There are definitely many girls who grow out of that train of thought and realize they should be dating the nice guys, not taking them for granted. The tricky part is finding those girls, and even trickier, finding the ones that are single.

So, until those girls are found, I propose a toast to all the nice guys. You know who you are, and I know you’re sick of hearing yourself described as ubiquitously nice. But the truth of the matter is, the world needs your patience in the department store, your holding open of doors, your party escorting services, your propensity to be a sucker for a pretty smile. For all the crazy, inane, absurd things you tolerate, for all the situations where you are the faceless, nameless hero, my accolades, my acknowledgement, and my gratitude go out to you. You do have credibility in this society, and your well deserved vindication is coming.



TOPIC: Is the saying, "Nice guys finish last" still valid, or no? Are/were you a nice guy, and how did it turn out for you? Ladies, what is your take on this?

[Frida]

naturally, girls like Alpha dogs, oh, I am sorry, Alpha man. :) Nice guys do not seem to be one. They do not look very confident, I guess.

[KissingeR]

Nice guys are those who lack confidence and cant decide about doing thins.

I own up I was a nice guy till I finished school then I became a wild asshole. I still am and it helps me out a lot.

Personally, I think it is very handy to be a nice guy in Uzbekistan but in the west it just does not work.

[dauphin]

naturally, girls like Alpha dogs, oh, I am sorry, Alpha man. :) Nice guys do not seem to be one. They do not look very confident, I guess.

Frida hanum, shu joyini bitta ashula qilib aytib bering, grek alfabetini birinchi harfidan boshqa hech narsa tushunmadim o'le agar.:lol:

[uzbekcfa2]

Frida hanum, shu joyini bitta ashula qilib aytib bering, grek alfabetini birinchi harfidan boshqa hech narsa tushunmadim o'le agar.:lol:


to understand, you should've watched the move "Alpha dog"
a great gangster/crime movie. ;)

[Пушкарева]

Nice :) Always wished to have one, but it just did not happen. If there are guys like that, I'd love to have one as a real friend.

Question: What does it mean "Nice guys finish last"? Does it mean "last longer", ir what? Did not get it.

Found this piece today, called "Ode to the Nice Guys".



TOPIC: Is the saying, "Nice guys finish last" still valid, or no? Are/were you a nice guy, and how did it turn out for you? Ladies, what is your take on this?

[Researche maker]

Found this piece today, called "Ode to the Nice Guys".
TOPIC: Is the saying, "Nice guys finish last" still valid, or no? Are/were you a nice guy, and how did it turn out for you? Ladies, what is your take on this?
Bizda siz ta'riflagan g'arbona yigitlarni latta deyishadi, nice guy emas. Nice guy esa qadr-qimmatini biladigan yigitdir, menga uhshab:cool:.

[Frida]

Frida hanum, shu joyini bitta ashula qilib aytib bering, grek alfabetini birinchi harfidan boshqa hech narsa tushunmadim o'le agar.:lol:

Alpha Male (http://c2.com/cgi/fullSearch)

A term originating from the animal kingdom, in which some species arrange individuals into a ranked order. For example in wolves, the pack order is split into two chains of command, one chain for the male, and one for the female. At the top of each chain is the 'Alpha' animal, and at the lowest of the chain is the 'omega' animal. Thus, the position of 'Alpha Male' means the male in charge of all the other males in his social group. This position can be seen being fought for, for example in school, by way of social interactions, group contests, or simply fighting to determine who is the 'hardest'. The position of Alpha Male is seen as one of the most socially desirable (in wolves as well as humans) as having it enables a male to make decisions about how their social group/pack is run, to exact submission and obedience from subordinates, and generally to control things and boss others around at will. The power of the alpha male is matched only by that of the alpha female, who is just as in control as the alpha male is. Though in human society, individual ego and desire for authority often exclude the possibility of a partnership at the top. Humans seem to have a remarkable tendency for aggregating ultimate authority to one (usually male) person. Little has changed from wolves to humans in this regard; humans still fight for the dominant position, but unlike wolves (continuing the example), who challenge for dominance and alpha status nonviolently using visual, auditory and smell clues, humans often get in bloody, protracted, and vicious fights/wars to determine who is the most powerful, and hence can dominate the rest of the pack. This can be regarded as one of the great failings of humanity, the desire for dominance and control and doing things one's own way destroying social ties to the extent fighting is necessary to enforce a social order, and that fighting actively harms, even kills, members of that social order.
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?AlphaMale

[Samimiy]

Nice guys don't finish last! If you want proof, look at yours truly :D

We may not finish first, but we don't finish last either. Guys who finish last are called losers :)

[uzbekcfa2]

look at yours truly :D



does that mean "samimiy"?


i thought samimiy means sincere.

hence, it's sincerely, not yours truly.:lol:

[Samimiy]

does that mean "samimiy"?


i thought samimiy means sincere.

hence, it's sincerely, not yours truly.:lol:

Yours truly is a fancy way of saying "me". Look it up in Webster's/Oxford/Longman/dictionary.com.

[Frida]

does that mean "samimiy"?



no, in uzbek it means kamina

[uzbekcfa2]

Yours truly is a fancy way of saying "me". Look it up in Webster's/Oxford/Longman/dictionary.com.

no, in uzbek it means kamina

thanks.;) need to freshen up my english.

[Sagittarius]

man nice guys eng ohirgi bo'lib kon4at' qilishadi deb tushunibman threadni nomidan, undo bo'lsa zo'r ku?! :)

[Vector]

nice guys finish last :lol:
the most important they finish, at least at last! :lool:
nice guys-who are they? non-confident? not necessarily i think...

[uzbekcfa2]

man nice guys eng ohirgi bo'lib kon4at' qilishadi deb tushunibman threadni nomidan, undo bo'lsa zo'r ku?! :)


:lool:

well...actually the original meaning of this phrase is the same as you stated.:lol:

depends where and how u use this phrase. friends, social etc. maybe, but not in more serios conversations.

[HustleR]

Found this piece today, called "Ode to the Nice Guys".



TOPIC: Is the saying, "Nice guys finish last" still valid, or no? Are/were you a nice guy, and how did it turn out for you? Ladies, what is your take on this?

well, I would look at it, from different perspective:
a) Guys that are nice could be interpreted different ways just like in that article above, one should also have some kind of charisma that will make that niceness barrier go away so girls actually ask that nice guy out or whatever in that nature;
b) No matter how nice one could be, chemistry and affection plays big role when it comes to having any kind of relationship.
c) If you are too nice and lame: sucks to be you. learn to find your own niche and try to determine what could you have done differently in each failed situation that niceness caused.

weird article though.

[The Reaper]

Question: What does it mean "Nice guys finish last"? Does it mean "last longer", ir what? Did not get it.

The term is more connected to racing - those who finish first are winners, and those who finish last are losers.

My take on this situation is that it boils down to the level of confidence a man possesses. "Bad guys" are perceived as being much more assertive, agressive, and adventurous - all of which are direct signs of male confidence.

However, there is a big difference between acting like an asshole, and being confident. You have either side playing their part in order to achieve self-acceptance and self-affirmation through all sorts of psychological manipulations. One can play the role (the game) for only a certain period of time, after which his true identity will start showing colors.
A fully confident person needs to constantly look within, understand his true nature, be ready to face the truth (sometimes unpleasant), and, most importantly, be comfortable about who/what he is. All this other noise (relationships, career, etc.) will fall in its place - right where you want it to be.

Human psychology is a fascinating thing, because our mind can either be our best friend or our worst enemy.

TR

[Uyyonli]

I'm sorry I can't be a nice guy. In school I was an A$$hole, I'm an A$$hole squad leader in the Army too. I'm like :hey private come hether, why didn't shave your nose hair? Give me million push ups in ten seconds" they get confused??? then I'm like "that means do some push up till I tell u to get up" I'm always leading this E4-E5 Mafia doing crazi stuff to even higher ranking dudes. Some higher ranked soldier are scared of us. They call me "red Evil"...
In the weekends everybody is in my room looking for some party. Too Bad I quit drinking and smoking. But I let them drink and do whatever. But a day before workday starts, I call them and make them clean my room. :twisted:

[Maroon]

I'm sorry I can't be a nice guy. In school I was an A$$hole, I'm an A$$hole squad leader in the Army too. I'm like :hey private come hether, why didn't shave your nose hair? Give me million push ups in ten seconds" they get confused??? then I'm like "that means do some push up till I tell u to get up" I'm always leading this E4-E5 Mafia doing crazi stuff to even higher ranking dudes. Some higher ranked soldier are scared of us. They call me "red Evil"...
I the weekends everybody is in my room looking some party. Too Bad I quit drinking and smoking. But I let them drink and do whatever, but a day before workday starts I call them and make them clean my room. :twisted:

Now in English please.

[dauphin]

Now in English please.

It was in English, but it was new generation English. After couple decades everyone in US will speak the same way he does. I think we should better get used to it. :lol:

[Luganos]

O'lay agar biror narsa tushungan busam . o'zbekchayam yozilar odamlar :lol:

[Researche maker]

I'm sorry I can't be a nice guy. In school I was an A$$hole, I'm an A$$hole squad leader in the Army too. I'm like :hey private come hether, why didn't shave your nose hair? Give me million push ups in ten seconds" they get confused??? then I'm like "that means do some push up till I tell u to get up" I'm always leading this E4-E5 Mafia doing crazi stuff to even higher ranking dudes. Some higher ranked soldier are scared of us. They call me "red Evil"...
In the weekends everybody is in my room looking for some party. Too Bad I quit drinking and smoking. But I let them drink and do whatever. But a day before workday starts, I call them and make them clean my room. :twisted:
You forgot to tell us about first half of your time in the army, when you were learning from A**holes.:cool:
Just A**holes can be proud of being A**hole:twisted:

[Frida]

uuufff, Uyyonli, we got that you are an asshole. what a feature to be proud of :D move on.

[Welsh]

Пусть клянет тебя последними словами, пусть ругает, называет эгоистом, свиньей или уродом. Все это допустимо. Но если она сказала: «Ты славный», следующей ее фразой будет: «Прощай».
Вот тебе еще одна особенность пресловутой женской логики.....
www.kabluchok.ru/article/commented/186/index.html

[melo]

Nice :) Always wished to have one, but it just did not happen. If there are guys like that, I'd love to have one as a real friend.


I would consier myself a nice guy and it just took much longer to get recognized for it. Girls like jackasses. I think that is fairly universal too, not just in particular cultures. :lol:

And the statement you made is exactly what a nice guy is tired of hearing. :lol:

[cianore]

Nice :) Always wished to have one, but it just did not happen. If there are guys like that, I'd love to have one as a real friend.



Just as a real friend. You'd never want one as a real boyfriend, would you?
No way...

I know one in Uzb who was nice and did his best to the girl he loved. Do you know what he got in turn?
She married to his best friend...

"Qizga mehring berguncha, qizga bag'ring ber ekan..."

[Пушкарева]

Yep, have the nice guy as a friend only. Believe it or not.

As BF or husband, I need someone with a stronger personality :) Otherwise, boshiga chiqib otirvolaman :lol:

Just as a real friend. You'd never want one as a real boyfriend, would you?
No way...

[Researche maker]

Yep, have the nice guy as a friend only. Believe it or not.

As BF or husband, I need someone with a stronger personality :) Otherwise, boshiga chiqib otirvolaman :lol:
Ya'ni zarur paytlarda qo'l ko'tarishiga roziman demoqchmisiz?

P.S albatda Mr.& Mrs.Smithdagidek dupposlash haqida gap ketmayapti, shapaloq va shunga uhshash.

[Prince]

Yo manimcha topolon qisa, Honasiga qamab qoyish xaqida gap ketvoti ilije Topolon qisa - Ugolga turkazib qoysa kere , tagin bilmadim .... :rolleyes:

A labbe?

[1985eva]

"Nice guy" just as a "nice girl" is a temporary phenomenon. They get corrupted eventually- grow up, take off pink glasses, learn from experience, just like nice girls, and become regular guys. Regular guys are like regular girls, they all do good and bad things.

[melo]

Yep, have the nice guy as a friend only. Believe it or not.

As BF or husband, I need someone with a stronger personality :) Otherwise, boshiga chiqib otirvolaman :lol:


So basically I should never feel bad for girls then? Even when they know better they make bad choices. :rolleyes: Which of the above characteristics is so bad? You want to be taken advantage of when you leave the party? You want a guy not to listen to you? Well you are in luck because these guys are everywhere. :lool:


"Nice guy" just as a "nice girl" is a temporary phenomenon. They get corrupted eventually- grow up, take off pink glasses, learn from experience, just like nice girls, and become regular guys. Regular guys are like regular girls, they all do good and bad things.

Maybe you have never met real nice boys or girls before. I do not think everyone changes. Genuinely nice people do exist.

[Shambles]

"Nice guy" just as a "nice girl" is a temporary phenomenon. They get corrupted eventually- grow up, take off pink glasses, learn from experience, just like nice girls, and become regular guys. Regular guys are like regular girls, they all do good and bad things.

Ms. Precious One,

can you really generalise that easy on this issue? Evidence? Examples? Case studies?
I think some nice guys will remain nice guys forever, imho...

[1985eva]

So basically I should never feel bad for girls then? Even when they know better they make bad choices. :rolleyes:



Maybe you have never met real nice boys or girls before. I do not think everyone changes. Genuinely nice people do exist.

Yes, "genuinely nice people" do exist.But that "nice" is not the same as in a relationship. Is "nice" in your understanding - a guy who is very laid back and can be a good friend to a girl? Then, yes maybe he doesn't change.
But "nice guys" and "nice girls" are so because of innocence. Once you take that away they become regular people. And what's wrong with that? Real jerks are more of a rarity, most of the time it's normal people in different situations in life.

[1985eva]

Ms. Precious One,

can you really generalise that easy on this issue? Evidence? Examples? Case studies?
I think some nice guys will remain nice guys forever, imho...

Mr. Shambles,

Long time no see...
Don't you remember that I CAN all I want?:cool:
Your response screams: "I'M THAT FOREVER NICE GUY!" ...

[Shambles]

Mr. Shambles,

Long time no see...
Don't you remember that I CAN all I want?:cool:
Your response screams: "I'M THAT FOREVER NICE GUY!" ...

Indeed, Ms. Precious One... Missed u much...:D

But this time you got a wrong message... I've never been a nice guy and unlikely will become one in the future... My apologies for misleading you (oops, I sound like a nice guy:D)...

I know a couple of nice nice guys and nothing tells me that they gonna change in the future to come...;)

[1985eva]

Indeed, Ms. Precious One... Missed u much...:D

But this time you got a wrong message... I've never been a nice guy and unlikely will become one in the future... My apologies for misleading you (oops, I sound like a nice guy:D)...

I know a couple of nice nice guys and nothing tells me that they gonna change in the future to come...;)

Have you dated them? :cool:

[Shambles]

Have you dated them? :cool:

Not yet!

P.S. I prefer bad girls!!!

[1985eva]

Not yet!

P.S. I prefer bad girls!!!

Can't wait to hear about your case study on dating "nice" guys then! Tell us all about it!

[Shambles]

Can't wait to hear about your case study on dating "nice" guys then! Tell us all about it!

I'll let you know when I wrap up the case study...

P.S. Are you trying to be a bad girl???;)

[melo]

Yes, "genuinely nice people" do exist.But that "nice" is not the same as in a relationship. Is "nice" in your understanding - a guy who is very laid back and can be a good friend to a girl? Then, yes maybe he doesn't change.
But "nice guys" and "nice girls" are so because of innocence. Once you take that away they become regular people. And what's wrong with that? Real jerks are more of a rarity, most of the time it's normal people in different situations in life.


My wife says I am still a nice guy. :D

[1985eva]

I'll let you know when I wrap up the case study...

P.S. Are you trying to be a bad girl???;)

No, I am a very good girl.
If you haven't noticed.

[Awesome-O]

What's the definition of a nice guy or a nice girl anyway. Looks and behavior can be deceptive or misleading (whether intentionally or not).

[Shambles]

No, I am a very good girl.
If you haven't noticed.

I've just noticed that you're a modest girl!!!;)

P.S. Gotta go to bed... It was nice to chat with you, Ms. Precious One!
Take care!

Mr. Shambles

[cianore]

Nice Guy lar odatda g'irt avtoritar bo'lib qoladi, yoshi ulg'aygach. Ulardan, badjahl va qattiqqo'l diktator chiqishi mumkin..

[Aziz]

Can we translate "Nice guy" into "Sodda" in Uzbek?

[Uyyonli]

Can we translate "Nice guy" into "Sodda" in Uzbek?

Yeah that's what i was wondering too.
I know u'r uzbek :-D

[Aziz]

Yeah that's what i was wondering too.
I know u'r uzbek :-D

looooool
I know that word because we have a lot of them in our family :D. But maybe they've changed now.

[cianore]

Can we translate "Nice guy" into "Sodda" in Uzbek?

I don't think so..
From context we can obtain more apt meaning in uzbek, and I think it is " Lapashang..."

[Uyyonli]

I don't think so..
From context we can obtain more apt meaning in uzbek, and I think it is " Lapashang..."

:lool: :lool: Lapashang...
such funni uzbek word :-D sometimes it is used to swear at someone!!!

[Awesome-O]

I don't think so..
From context we can obtain more apt meaning in uzbek, and I think it is " Lapashang..."


I don't agree with this definition of the word for "nice guy". "Nice guy" in overall context defines a personality of a guy as far as his "love life" goes, right ? A guy could be a very shrewd businessman, have a sharp analytical skills, and also respect women, which the representatives of the opposite sex may take it for "sodda" as it has been described before ? Just because a guy is not a "slime bag" (which women happen to not like as well), does not qualify the guy to be called sodda or lapashang.

[Sagittarius]

"Yaxshi Bola" is the right translation of this word. Girls love bad guys, at least wild good guys.

[RockerDen]

naturally, girls like Alpha dogs, oh, I am sorry, Alpha man. :) Nice guys do not seem to be one. They do not look very confident, I guess.
Takie devushki obychno lyubyat iskat' s "bad boys" priklyucheniya koe na chto, a potom - iznasilovaniya, izmeny i t.p so vsemi vytekayuschimi posledstviyami.

[El Greco]

Alpha Male (http://c2.com/cgi/fullSearch)

A term originating from the animal kingdom, in which some species arrange individuals into a ranked order. For example in wolves, the pack order is split into two chains of command, one chain for the male, and one for the female. At the top of each chain is the 'Alpha' animal, and at the lowest of the chain is the 'omega' animal. Thus, the position of 'Alpha Male' means the male in charge of all the other males in his social group. This position can be seen being fought for, for example in school, by way of social interactions, group contests, or simply fighting to determine who is the 'hardest'. The position of Alpha Male is seen as one of the most socially desirable (in wolves as well as humans) as having it enables a male to make decisions about how their social group/pack is run, to exact submission and obedience from subordinates, and generally to control things and boss others around at will. The power of the alpha male is matched only by that of the alpha female, who is just as in control as the alpha male is. Though in human society, individual ego and desire for authority often exclude the possibility of a partnership at the top. Humans seem to have a remarkable tendency for aggregating ultimate authority to one (usually male) person. Little has changed from wolves to humans in this regard; humans still fight for the dominant position, but unlike wolves (continuing the example), who challenge for dominance and alpha status nonviolently using visual, auditory and smell clues, humans often get in bloody, protracted, and vicious fights/wars to determine who is the most powerful, and hence can dominate the rest of the pack. This can be regarded as one of the great failings of humanity, the desire for dominance and control and doing things one's own way destroying social ties to the extent fighting is necessary to enforce a social order, and that fighting actively harms, even kills, members of that social order.
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?AlphaMale

A woman with brain and attitude, at last!:)

[Uz_Yasmin]

im waiting for that nice guy to come

[Uz_Yasmin]

At least u know more than I do :) ;) what do u think ?

oh please, don't embarrass me like that:uups:
i can barely speak uzbek how am i supposed to understand russian:lol:


i know two words, privet && poka:lol:
how is that for revolution lol

[Uyyonli]

oh please, don't embarrass me like that:uups:
i can barely speak uzbek how am i supposed to understand russian:lol:


i know two words, privet && poka:lol:
how is that for revolution lol
o.k I will be the nice guy and I wil not embarras u. We can learn Russian together...
PMed u

[Princess Z]

Na samom dele, interesno poluchaetsya, bol'shinstvo devushek vsegda tyanutsya k bad guys....pochemu nice guys sovsem ne cenyat?
Schiaetsya,chto s nimi skuchno, neinteresno, a hochetsya oshutit' eti ostrie oshusheniya, videt' drammi, revnostnie sceni i t.d., nervnichat, perenosit stressi iz za izmen bad guys, voobshem kucha vsyakih minusov v nih no vse je......jenshini predpochitayu shumnih i bespredel'nih rebyat. Vot stranniy paradox.....:)

[Africa]

Na samom dele, interesno poluchaetsya, bol'shinstvo devushek vsegda tyanutsya k bad guys....pochemu nice guys sovsem ne cenyat?
Schiaetsya,chto s nimi skuchno, neinteresno, a hochetsya oshutit' eti ostrie oshusheniya, videt' drammi, revnostnie sceni i t.d., nervnichat, perenosit stressi iz za izmen bad guys, voobshem kucha vsyakih minusov v nih no vse je......jenshini predpochitayu shumnih i bespredel'nih rebyat. Vot stranniy paradox.....:)
от того и увеличивается число матерей-одиночек

[fidis]

so, reading through the posts, i came to conclusion that if one wants to keep a woman at his side, he should treat her bad.

hmm, because both men and women do not want it, feminism sucks?

:D

[AL-Midwest]

I am different at my job and personnel life.
My job is not for nice guys-) man you dare to challenge me i will walk on you and rewalk again just to make sure you will think twice next time. But try to do it molcha..usually the loudest in the room is the weakest. So i believe it's good when people keep guessing what's the next thing you bring to the table.

Personnel life hmmm i got no personnel life

[Uyyonli]

I am different at my job and personnel life.
My job is not for nice guys-) man you dare to challenge me i will walk on you and rewalk again just to make sure you will think twice next time. But try to do it molcha..usually the loudest in the room is the weakest. So i believe it's good when people keep guessing what's the next thing you bring to the table.

Personnel life hmmm i got no personnel life
It's something like "dudes chill out the Boss is coming" :)
See I kind of don't like however if my men that I am in charge tries to be a smarta$$ I will smoke them untill they bleed out of their eyes(if I get mad)
So my guys know I am @$$ at work