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supervisor
11-25-2007, 04:17 PM
Hi guys. I am sure there are quite a few people in the forum who practised "Empty hand fighting". Some got interested in it but never had a chance to take serious look into Karate. Finally, 90% of members have watched movies with fast and strong kicks, jumps, strikes. Share your opinion on Karate as a sports type. Give information or learn more about Karate schools.
supervisor
11-25-2007, 04:40 PM
Well, so far no one has written anything. I would presume, I will be the first to write something on the topic. Cool, as far as I know there is a Kyokushin and Shotokan ways of Karate each one outcoming from a different master. Now How correct it is? I need to double check. The other day I was looking through some KATA videos and was a bit surprised because it was written Okunawa school of Karate. Any info concerning that school?
alpum
02-25-2008, 06:39 AM
Well... let me share my point of view on karate
Kyokushin - this way is not so good becoz they teach you to fight without punchs to head of opponent. One can be used to do it and will lose in street fight.
The other way Shotokan - is pretty good, but IMHO it gives to much effort to Kick and Punch skills so that you train alwais the same exercise.
I think that shotakan is better than Kokshin.
And theres the other way called Karate-Do. Do anybody know ab this way?
corsair
02-25-2008, 12:05 PM
everything about Karate or karate-do ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karate-do
i had couple of lessons of shotokan and by the way Karate team of uzb practices shotokan too...
Shahnoz
02-25-2008, 06:17 PM
I was in judo for 2 years, and in karate for 3 years. Scary, huh? :-)
Oh, stop hiding..... it was a long time ago.
I think a girl needs to learn some way of self-defense. Screaming and trying to rip a bunch of hair out of some maniacs head leaves a very small chance of survival.
My children will do some kind of sports. Any kind of sports.
So... I approve. :-)
Ma'ruf
02-25-2008, 10:25 PM
Karatedi nima qilasilar?
Muay-Thai is the deadliest Martial Arts...:death::war:
Have a look at this: Ramon Dekkers
alpum
02-26-2008, 02:30 AM
мау - тай билан шугунлангандан киен еейй бир 40-50 ёшларда бошланади киен аёк огриш, бош огриш...
кто знает ушу клуб в ташкенте, я ищу мастера ушу - хочу взять уроки боевой гимнастики. подскажите люди если кто знеает.
VatanparvaR
02-26-2008, 02:35 AM
Bu Yakshanbada imtixonim bor. Agar o'ta olsam, Taekwondo WTF 1-DAN qora belbog' olaman.
WTF siz o'ylagan narsa emas lekin :lol:
O'tsam rasm qo'yaman, o'tmasam, o'ziladan ko'rila :)
Lekin bir narsani aytib o'tishim kerak. Bu turdagi sportlar bilan shug'illanish, meni nazarimda, faqat sog'likni yahshi darajada tutish uchun kerak xolos. Ko'cha urishida, afsus, bular yordam bermaydi. Ko'cha urishida biror natijaga erishish uchun, albatta va albatta ko'cha urishida tajriba orttirish zarur, boshqa yo'li yo'q :)
B.TURKISTANI
02-26-2008, 02:44 AM
Tag'in yuziga tepib o'tirmang. Alloh yuzni chiroyli qilib yaratgan.:)
Ilohim qo'lingiz baland bo'lsin!
erkak#1
02-26-2008, 05:01 AM
Bu Yakshanbada imtixonim bor. Agar o'ta olsam, Taekwondo WTF 1-DAN qora belbog' olaman.
WTF siz o'ylagan narsa emas lekin :lol:
O'tsam rasm qo'yaman, o'tmasam, o'ziladan ko'rila :)
Lekin bir narsani aytib o'tishim kerak. Bu turdagi sportlar bilan shug'illanish, meni nazarimda, faqat sog'likni yahshi darajada tutish uchun kerak xolos. Ko'cha urishida, afsus, bular yordam bermaydi. Ko'cha urishida biror natijaga erishish uchun, albatta va albatta ko'cha urishida tajriba orttirish zarur, boshqa yo'li yo'q :)
Fight clublarda qatnashsez, opit oshirasiz :D
Taekwondo da 1-2-DAN lar qora belbog'ga qiyin bo'miydi deb aytgandi trenerimiz. 10-ga chiqqanizda tabrigimni olasiz, ungacha fshshshsht :lol:
Asadbek
02-26-2008, 05:06 AM
Bu Yakshanbada imtixonim bor. Agar o'ta olsam, Taekwondo WTF 1-DAN qora belbog' olaman.
WTF siz o'ylagan narsa emas lekin :lol:
GAIshnik bo'larkansiz-da unda :D
Omad tilab turamiz! :)
supervisor
03-01-2008, 03:01 PM
Bu Yakshanbada imtixonim bor. Agar o'ta olsam, Taekwondo WTF 1-DAN qora belbog' olaman.
WTF siz o'ylagan narsa emas lekin :lol:
O'tsam rasm qo'yaman, o'tmasam, o'ziladan ko'rila :)
Lekin bir narsani aytib o'tishim kerak. Bu turdagi sportlar bilan shug'illanish, meni nazarimda, faqat sog'likni yahshi darajada tutish uchun kerak xolos. Ko'cha urishida, afsus, bular yordam bermaydi. Ko'cha urishida biror natijaga erishish uchun, albatta va albatta ko'cha urishida tajriba orttirish zarur, boshqa yo'li yo'q :)
GOOD Luck
Fighter
daejeon
03-01-2008, 04:05 PM
bitta dokumentalni kino kurgandim hammasidan bokserni udari kuchli bular ekan,
tepish buyicha takvando udari ikinchi urinda ekan birinchi urinda tayboksni tizza
bilan udari ekan. lekin hammsidan ham eng kuchligi ninza ekan odamdagi qanqadir
tochkalarga urib uhlatarkan. atak hammasini bitta uq bilan tinchitsa buladi :lol:
SAMARKANDI!
03-01-2008, 04:16 PM
Karatedi nima qilasilar?
Muay-Thai is the deadliest Martial Arts...:death::war:
Have a look at this: Ramon Dekkers (http://youtube.com/watch?v=SrGrqplgGoA)
Indeed my favorite, most effective type of martial arts, Mai Thai, besides box :)
YouTube - The Baddest Thai Boxer in the World
he rocks
EastEnder
03-01-2008, 05:51 PM
Salom bolla!
Kyokishinkaymi, Shotokanmi, Muy-Tai mi ,Taekwondomi, Ninzya mi , Wushumi , lyuboyida odam expert darajasiga yetsa , ana usha raqibini yengide, o'ta chaqqonlik bilan.
Hali yuqorida yozilgan gapga uncha qo'shilolmiman, Kyokinshikay style to'g'risini e'tganda full contact, boshga urish mumkin lekin zapret qo'ishgandirde, chunki bitta zarba bilan raqibini o'ldirib qo'ishi mumkin.
Kyokinshinkay styleni topgan odam Masutacu Oyama, toqqa chiqib ketib bir uzi ancha mashq qilgan, forumchalarimiz Oyamasanni o'ynab chiqqan Soni Chibani kinosini ko'rgandir, rus tilida Obrechenni'y na Odinochestvo, ingliz tilida BullFighter digan kino bir paytla kinoteatrlarimizda namoyish e'tilgan.
Taekwondo bo'yicha Toshkentda bir odam boride E'duard Li chempion mejdunarodnogo klassa e'di manimcha, musoboqalaga chiqarmi qo'yishgandi, chunki yakka zarbasi bilan raqibini o'ldirib qo'yishi mumkin e'di .
Kaminani uzi Toshkentda Dinamo sport kompleksida 90chi yilarda Rukopashniy boy bilan shug'ullanganman, Dilshodaka digan trenerimiz bore'dila, haliyam ushattadirla, bilmadim, glavniy trener Rustamaka e'dila (vietnam veteran), Dusimon digan vietnam style emblemasini kimonomizga tiktirgandik, usha style bo'yicha trenirovka qildirshgan manimcha.
Musoboqalarda pryamoy udar rukoy v golovu, udar s pronosom rukoy v golovu va udar s pronosom nogoy v golovu lar mumkin e'mas e'di .
Uzim, musoboqada e'mas, oddiy trenerovkani sparringida Vandamskiy pryjok vertushkani zarbasi bunimga tegib knockout bo'p qoganman.
Hozirgi kunlarda qaniyde voht bo'sa, yana jon dib shug'ullanardim shu sport bilan.
Hurmat ila.
meksikanes
03-01-2008, 06:28 PM
samarqandiy bu muiy tai chiga haqqatda gap yoq lekin, rasa boylarini korganman,lekin zordan zori chiqanidek ohiringi boylarida bu bolayam yutqazip qoydi.bu bolani oti porparamuk edi manimcha, taylandlik.
mui aty ham kocha boylariga uncha yordam bermidi manimcha, shu turganda urishsa adarishi mumkin , yotgandan kegin hech narsa qilomidi.
shunga mixfight bilan shugullanish kere, ja bomasa rukapashka bilan.
VatanparvaR
03-02-2008, 12:29 AM
Mujik obeshal, mujik sdelal :)
Taekwondo WTF bo'yicha 1-DAN qora belbog' !
NanOnaN
03-02-2008, 02:15 AM
Tabriklimiz !
Endi sal ihtiyot bolip muomila qilarkanmizde:)
etgancha RAsim qani?:)
qoygandayam uzoqdan yoki teskari turgan joylaridan bomasin:)))
SAMARKANDI!
03-02-2008, 02:41 AM
samarqandiy bu muiy tai chiga haqqatda gap yoq lekin, rasa boylarini korganman,lekin zordan zori chiqanidek ohiringi boylarida bu bolayam yutqazip qoydi.bu bolani oti porparamuk edi manimcha, taylandlik.
mui aty ham kocha boylariga uncha yordam bermidi manimcha, shu turganda urishsa adarishi mumkin , yotgandan kegin hech narsa qilomidi.
shunga mixfight bilan shugullanish kere, ja bomasa rukapashka bilan.
Manimcha siz mai thai bilan anchadan beri shugillangan odamlarni bilmesiz shekilli. Mani bir tanishim bor man uni korganman, qande urishishini, agar yerga sizi yotqizgan bolsa uje turmesiz :) umuman turmedigan qilib qoyadi hojat qomedi va uni ustiga yotgan odamni urish yahshi ish emas, kochadami ringdami yotgan odamga turib olishga vazmojnost berish kerek, erkakchasiga boladi ushanda :)
eusko
03-02-2008, 03:43 AM
в защиту кёкусина скажу, что удары в голову руками тренируются, и даже локтями. просто в боях их не используют. слишком много летальных исходов было. а грамотный боец на улице и их применит если нужно.
а шотокан - это не фул контакт и там нет лоу киков и ударов коленями. так что еще большой вопрос, что эффективнее на улице. но наверное самый прогрессивный стиль - ояма карате. это усовершенствованный кекусин с ударами в голову. просто там "спасительные" маски надевают на соревнованиях.
VatanparvaR
03-02-2008, 11:22 PM
Tabriklimiz !
Endi sal ihtiyot bolip muomila qilarkanmizde
etgancha RAsim qani?
qoygandayam uzoqdan yoki teskari turgan joylaridan bomasin
Raxmat :)
Lekin borku, rasm xaqida bilib etganakansiz. Rasmga ogan odam, muhlisla o'tiradigan joydan ogande, chunki ulani zalga tushirmaydi. Odam juda ko'p. Shunga rasmlaram butun orqadan, yoki yonboshdan olinibdi.
So'z bergandim, rasmla yomon busayam qo'yaman.
Bunday boshlandi. Bilganizdek, o'zi bitta chet ellik bor
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Boshida pumse 8 qilinadi
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Undan keyin, master o'zi holagan pumseni bajartiradi 1-7 gacha, bizga teaguk chil-chan, yani 7 ni bajarishni buyurdi
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Undan keyin tepish mashqlarini bajarasiz, shuni xam tekshiradi
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Ana undan keyin sparring
Oyog'imga tepdi ablex
2 ta ekspert sizni kuzatib o'tiradi, baholab
Shu bilan, tamom.
Sertifikat 10-15 kunlaga qo'limga kelib tushsa kerak.
NanOnaN
03-02-2008, 11:44 PM
batafsil fotoreportaj uchun rahmat
voy voy mashu joyi yoqdide rossa, a tak tori basharaga ketvotide oyo.
Anu karis nakaut bogan rasim yomi:))
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4008/dsc09924hj7.jpg
VatanparvaR
03-02-2008, 11:47 PM
batafsil fotoreportaj uchun rahmat
voy voy mashu joyi yoqdide rossa, a tak tori basharaga ketvotide oyo.
Anu karis nakaut bogan rasim yomi:))
:lool::lool::lool:
nakaut bugan joyini omapti rasmga, rasmchiyam karis edide :rofl::rofl::rofl:
:lol::lol::lol:
corsair
03-03-2008, 12:47 PM
porum to'la qoratoychilar ekan... :-D arigato...
erkak#1
03-04-2008, 03:49 PM
Indeed my favorite, most effective type of martial arts, Mai Thai, besides box :)
YouTube - The Baddest Thai Boxer in the World (http://youtube.com/watch?v=LW40EVsjH-8)
he rocks
Buakaw Por Pramuk(Assassin from Thailand midi?) =)
Muay Thai haqida etgan gapiz to'g'ri. Muay Thai dunyo bo'yicha blijniy boyda martial artlani orasida the most effective hisoblanadi. Lekin Boks haqida aytgan gapizga qo'shilmiyman =) Bokserning stoykasini o'zi notog'ri. Har qanaqa bokser ham stoykada turganida vesini oyoqqa tashiydi, sal qattiqroq oyog'iga "low kick" bersez, qando dumalaganini o'zi sezmiy qoladi. Keyin u bilan bilganizzi qilasiz =)
Here is the example:
YouTube - Boxing vs Muay Thai
samarqandiy bu muiy tai chiga haqqatda gap yoq lekin, rasa boylarini korganman,lekin zordan zori chiqanidek ohiringi boylarida bu bolayam yutqazip qoydi.bu bolani oti porparamuk edi manimcha, taylandlik.
mui aty ham kocha boylariga uncha yordam bermidi manimcha, shu turganda urishsa adarishi mumkin , yotgandan kegin hech narsa qilomidi.
shunga mixfight bilan shugullanish kere, ja bomasa rukapashka bilan.
Uni mixed martial atrs deydi =)
Har qanaqa sport turiga qatnashseyizam, hamma narsa sizzi trenirovkezga va sizzi trenerizga bog'liq. Treneriz ko'cha urushidayam turib beroladigan qilib tarbiyalasa, bemalol sizga 10ta keladigan buqaniyam qoqib ketasiz. =)
Bo'masa, ming qo'lizda avtomat bo'sayam, lallayib qarab turovurasiz =)
Muay Thai ga qatnashgan odam, ko'chada turib bera olmasligiga uncha ishonqiramiyroq turibman. Sababi Muay Thai 400-500 yillardan beri mavjud, va Muay Thai Thailand armiyasining asosiy qurollaridan biri hisoblangan. Muay Thai tanani har bir qismini maksimal ishlatishga undiydigan karatmonchilik turi :-)
erkak#1
03-04-2008, 08:33 PM
VatanparvaR og'a, man sizzi duelga chaqiraman :-D
Man sizzi kelasi yili, ya'ni, 2009-yil yoz oyida O'zbekiston Respublikasining liboy yerida yakkama yakka olishuvga chaqiraman. :-D
Duelga chaqirish qo'lqoplari:
http://ebay.mortimports.com/twins_gloves_dragon_gld-blk.jpg
Bir mavzu ochaman, g'olibga nima berilishini kelishib olamiz. Qalay? Rozimisiz? :-D
Asosiy Qoida: Barcha qoidalarga rioya qilgan holda olishamiz :-D
P.S.: To'xtang, Uzbga qachon qaytishimni o'zim bilmiymanu, kelasi yilimush... Ishqilib, ikkalamiz UZBda bir vaqtni o'zida bo'ganimizada duel qilamiz :-D
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