What makes you stronger? Nima sizni kuchliroq qiladi?

[Uzbekxonim]

Dear forumers,
some of us are abroad, some of us at home. In our everyday life we face difficulties, go through them, then face other difficulties....

what makes you stronger? psycologically?
what do you think about when you feel weak and helpless?
how do you make yorself to go ahead regardles any dificulties?

Let's share here our techniques and strategies of becoming a stronger personality.

ps. if somebody can, please, translate the above paragraph into Uzbek and i will add it to initial post, thanx.

[Darvesh]

Dear forumers,
some of us are abroad, some of us at home. In our everyday life we face difficulties, go through them, then face other difficulties....

what makes you stronger? psycologically?
what do you think about when you feel weak and helpless?
how do you make yorself to go ahead regardles any dificulties?

Let's share here our techniques and strategies of becoming a stronger personality.

ps. if somebody can, please, translate the above paragraph into Uzbek and i will add it to initial post, thanx.


Salom,

Juda zo'r mavzu, bunaqa mavzuni ziyouz.com'da ko'proq uchratish mumkin, forum.uz'ga ko'ra:). Yoki odinvopros.ru'da.


Bilasiz mi, Uzbekxonim, "strong personality" haqida konsensus bo'lmagani uchun, "kuchli inson" bo'lishga olib boradigan ham yagona yo'l yo'q. Men o'zim hayotimga retrospektivadan qarasam, "strong personality"ning ma'nosi men uchun ikki martda o'zgargan ekan, chunki hayotimni ham nisbiy ikki bosqichga ajratsa bo'ladi:

1. "Chisto technichiy bola" bosqichi, litsey va universitetning bakalavri vaqtlarimga to'gri keladi, bu vaqt men uchun "citius, altius, fortius" shiori ostida o'tgan. Yani, universitetni bitirib, mexnat bozoriga kirgandan so'ng, raketa kabi kariera qilish, universitet vaqtida menga yoqgan qizlarni bittada o'rash kabi maqsadlarimga yetish uchun, men, hech qanday ko'zga tashlanadigan talantsiz inson, aynan siz aytgan "strong personality" ega bo'lishim kerak edi va shunday personality'ni qurishga harakat qilganman.

Oddiy insonlarni bolasi bo'lganim uchun, bizni muxitda "krutoy"lar yo'q edi, maslaxatlari bilan o'rtoqlashadigan. Shuning uchun, javobni asosan dunyo adabiyotidan qidirganman, baxtimga yosh yigitga hayotdagi o'rnini topishda yordam beradigan maslaxatlar deyarlik har-bitta buyuk yozuvchi, shoirda bor ekan. Shulardan harakterni tarbiyalash uchun eng asosiylari Lord Chesterfieldning o'g'liga hatlari, Ben.Franklinning Avtobiografiyasi, Moruaning "Pismo molodomu cheloveku o nauke jit", Baltazar Grazian, Stendal, Balzak va falsafa, ayniqsa stoik falsafasi bo'lsa kerak + self-improvement tools like time management, NLP and books by Brian Tracy, Steven Covey etc.

Xullas, bu bosqichda asosiy maqsadim "wordly success by all means" edi, va shu orzuyim menga kuch-quvvat bergan, qiyinchiliklarni ham odatda yuqoridagi kitoblarni qayta qayta o'qib, yengar edim. Agarda Goncharovning "Oblomov" degan romanini o'qigan bo'lsangiz, o'sha yerdagi nemets Stolz kabi edim:).

2. Darveshlik vaqti.

Lekin dunyoni butun boyligini yeg'a olmasligimni, butun lavozimlarni ham egalla olmasligimni, va hamma menga yoqgan qizlarni seva olmasligimni anglab yetganimda, Sidharta Gautama kabi, hafa bo'lib kettim:). Mlyat dedim...

Va "hayotni ma'nosi nimada?", "men kim?" kabi, shu vaqtgacha ignor qilib kelayotgan savollarga javob qidirishni boshladim. Hullas, bu yerda yaqin insonlarim, hususan onamning va turk litseydagi "bratanim"ni hayotga bo'lgan munosabati diqqatimni chekdi, ja hayot bilan garmonyada yashab qo'yishadi de.

Ana shu insonlar bilan uzun suxbat + yana o'sha qadimgi grek va Rim falsafasi + va yaxshi, mumtoz adabiyoti + hayotni open mind bilan kuzatish meni asta sekin Islomga olib keldi, Islomda butun meni qiynayotgan savollarga javob topdim. Va bu o'zimga bo'lgan sayohat hali ham davom etmoqda.

Agar men og'limga maslaxat beradigan bo'lsam, hayotida yaxshi kitob o'qishini, Islomni chuqur o'rganishini va hurmatga sazovor bir kishiga taqlid qilishini maslaxat qilgan bo'lar edim.

[corsair]

what makes you stronger? psycologically?
what do you think about when you feel weak and helpless?
how do you make yorself to go ahead regardles any dificulties?


What makes me stronger? Meat, especially Lamb :-D

well, life itself makes me stronger.
life has black and white days (sometimes they are gray), sometimes you got to say yourself "i am gonna get trough this" and push it...

when i was a young kid i used to feel weak and helpless but now i dont feel that way because if i cant do the thing the way i want, i certainly come back to that thing some other day with better plan...

how do i make myself to go ahead? i dont have any other choice, do i? :-D

PS: that don't kill me can only make me stronger...

[zumrad]

I am weak , but I am afraid to look weak....it makes me stronger:lol:

[Shambles]

what makes you stronger?

Confidence!!! Confidence that I'm not the first and I'm not the last who face such a tough situation... And the problem is just a temporary setback which makes me stronger and more experienced...

[corsair]

Salom,

Juda zo'r mavzu, bunaqa mavzuni ziyouz.com'da ko'proq uchratish mumkin, forum.uz'ga ko'ra:). Yoki odinvopros.ru'da.


Bilasiz mi, Uzbekxonim, "strong personality" haqida konsensus bo'lmagani uchun, "kuchli inson" bo'lishga olib boradigan ham yagona yo'l yo'q. Men o'zim hayotimga retrospektivadan qarasam, "strong personality"ning ma'nosi men uchun ikki martda o'zgargan ekan, chunki hayotimni ham nisbiy ikki bosqichga ajratsa bo'ladi:

1. "Chisto technichiy bola" bosqichi, litsey va universitetning bakalavri vaqtlarimga to'gri keladi, bu vaqt men uchun "citius, altius, fortius" shiori ostida o'tgan. Yani, universitetni bitirib, mexnat bozoriga kirgandan so'ng, raketa kabi kariera qilish, universitet vaqtida menga yoqgan qizlarni bittada o'rash kabi maqsadlarimga yetish uchun, men, hech qanday ko'zga tashlanadigan talantsiz inson, aynan siz aytgan "strong personality" ega bo'lishim kerak edi va shunday personality'ni qurishga harakat qilganman.

Oddiy insonlarni bolasi bo'lganim uchun, bizni muxitda "krutoy"lar yo'q edi, maslaxatlari bilan o'rtoqlashadigan. Shuning uchun, javobni asosan dunyo adabiyotidan qidirganman, baxtimga yosh yigitga hayotdagi o'rnini topishda yordam beradigan maslaxatlar deyarlik har-bitta buyuk yozuvchi, shoirda bor ekan. Shulardan harakterni tarbiyalash uchun eng asosiylari Lord Chesterfieldning o'g'liga hatlari, Ben.Franklinning Avtobiografiyasi, Moruaning "Pismo molodomu cheloveku o nauke jit", Baltazar Grazian, Stendal, Balzak va falsafa, ayniqsa stoik falsafasi bo'lsa kerak + self-improvement tools like time management, NLP and books by Brian Tracy, Steven Covey etc.

Xullas, bu bosqichda asosiy maqsadim "wordly success by all means" edi, va shu orzuyim menga kuch-quvvat bergan, qiyinchiliklarni ham odatda yuqoridagi kitoblarni qayta qayta o'qib, yengar edim. Agarda Goncharovning "Oblomov" degan romanini o'qigan bo'lsangiz, o'sha yerdagi nemets Stolz kabi edim:).

2. Darveshlik vaqti.

Lekin dunyoni butun boyligini yeg'a olmasligimni, butun lavozimlarni ham egalla olmasligimni, va hamma menga yoqgan qizlarni seva olmasligimni anglab yetganimda, Sidharta Gautama kabi, hafa bo'lib kettim:). Mlyat dedim...

Va "hayotni ma'nosi nimada?", "men kim?" kabi, shu vaqtgacha ignor qilib kelayotgan savollarga javob qidirishni boshladim. Hullas, bu yerda yaqin insonlarim, hususan onamning va turk litseydagi "bratanim"ni hayotga bo'lgan munosabati diqqatimni chekdi, ja hayot bilan garmonyada yashab qo'yishadi de.

Ana shu insonlar bilan uzun suxbat + yana o'sha qadimgi grek va Rim falsafasi + va yaxshi, mumtoz adabiyoti + hayotni open mind bilan kuzatish meni asta sekin Islomga olib keldi, Islomda butun meni qiynayotgan savollarga javob topdim. Va bu o'zimga bo'lgan sayohat hali ham davom etmoqda.

Agar men og'limga maslaxat beradigan bo'lsam, hayotida yaxshi kitob o'qishini, Islomni chuqur o'rganishini va hurmatga sazovor bir kishiga taqlid qilishini maslaxat qilgan bo'lar edim.

akya, savollarga javob bermabsizku? :-D

[Masanori]

Uzbekxonimda fantaziya degan narsa jaaa rivojlangande. Muhimi har bir ochgan mavzusi juda qiziq.

savolga keladigan bulsak, hmmm...har qanday muammo yoki qiyinchilikni kungilga yaqin olmaslikka harakat qilaman. Bundan ham battar bulishi mumkin ediku deb uylayman.
Bugun qilingan bir hato, ertaga qaytarilmasligiga ishonaman, har holda ana shu hatoni boshqa qaytarmaslikka harakat qilaman.

Bir haftalar oldin bir dustim savol suragan edi. Qachon uzingni comfortable yoki relaxed his qilasan deb...birdaniga javob bera olmadim...keyin uylab qarasam, toat-ibodatda muqim bulgan davrlarim eng comfortable va relaxed paytlarim bulgan ekan.

Ha aytgancha, hidoyatga bulgan umid makes me stronger. Asl haqiqtaga qaytmoq, unga erishish ilinji bilan yashayman.

[Mr. Putin]

Ha aytgancha, hidoyatga bulgan umid makes me stronger. Asl haqiqtaga qaytmoq, unga erishish ilinji bilan yashayman.

Mashi joyida fikrlarimiz 100% to'gri keldi.;)

[Magnolia]

100% support from my family makes me hell of a lot stronger :)


P.S. besides that its mostly broccoli,spinach and zucchini :D

[Ulug'bek]

Dear forumers,
some of us are abroad, some of us at home. In our everyday life we face difficulties, go through them, then face other difficulties....

1. what makes you stronger? psycologically?
2. what do you think about when you feel weak and helpless?
3. how do you make yorself to go ahead regardles any dificulties?

Let's share here our techniques and strategies of becoming a stronger personality.

ps. if somebody can, please, translate the above paragraph into Uzbek and i will add it to initial post, thanx.

My answers based on my understanding of the questions:

1. It is my faith in Allah SWT and hereafter and reminding my self att all these diffuculties I might be facing are very short timed tests, different tests i am put through by Allah SWT, this faith gives me strength. For, the limited time given for life is almost nothing when compared with the eternity in the life hereafter.
2. I try to forget it, consider it another test, do something else useful that makes me busy with, socialise with people, meet my friends, talk to the closest ones, etc. I also evaluate real value of forces/things/concepts that position me in the weak side, many times I reposition them weaker than they seem to be and gain strength myself.
3. I will try reevaluate the circumstances to see if I had planed realistically in the first place. If I assume that my goal lays above 50 % (sometimes it may require much higer degree of certainty, based on different consequences that a particular action may carry) of possiblity to achieve, I will go ahead with, but i prepare myself from the beginning for the worse cenario as well. This way, i can keep my self advancing towards my goals and at the same time suffer less if i face problems, difficulties or setbacks.

[uzbekcfa2]

This song :lol:

[Charmed]

"To chto ne ubivaet nas delaet nas sil'nimi...."

[Demir Kağan]

Maybe the pain, maybe the love, maybe the God..

[Glance]

"Birovga qarab fikr qil, birovga qarab shukur qil" deyishadi.. Shu gab menga juda yoqadi. Chunki bu narsani har jabhada ham qo'llay olishimiz mumkin.

Inson tushkunlikka tushganda hamma narsasi gullab yashnayotgan bir insonga qarab fikr yuritadi, shu narsa meni ham qo'limdan keladiku deya yana intilishda davom etadi. Aynan maqolning ikkinchi tarafi esa inson ruhini ko'tarishga yanada undaydi, chunki bundan ham yomon holatga tushishi mumkin edi, ahir undan ham 10-100 marta battar qiynalayotganlar bor ekanligini anglab yetadi.

Bir tanishim, "oson kelgan narsa, oson ketadi" derdi, shuni ham eslayman, qiyinchilik bilan erishilgan narsani gashti ham o'zgacha bo'ladi, shunday holatlarda odam "pishadi" deb o'ylayman, va ko'ynimmi shunday ko'tarishga harakat qilaman.

Eng muhim narsa ishonch, doimo ishonch - umidni yo'qotmaslik zarur. Hatto duo qilganda ham shu duoni qabul bo'lishiga ishonish, umid qilish zarur. O'zim harakatni kuchaytirib va amalga oshmayotgan ishimni amalga oshishini Allohdan so'ragan onlarimda hech qachon umid bilan Alloh duoga ochgan qo'limni quruq qaytarganini eslolmayman. Shuning uchun ham doim har narsaning ustida tanho hukumdor bo'lgan Zodga tavakkal qilaman.

[G-man]

"Birovga qarab fikr qil, birovga qarab shukur qil" deyishadi..
Mana shu gap.
Also, during the hard times I believe I have no choice but to be patient. And my faith gives me this patience.

[PainKiller]

batmanni korgan bosangiz, otasi ugliga aytadi, "people fall so they can get up". The more problems you have in your past, the stronger you get. Seeing people, trying to understand their problems, being positive is what makes me stronger. And plus I have a person who is super supportive. I talk to him, share my thoughts with him and Nothing really matters after that. How can I be weak with such background?)))

[Uzbekxonim]

My personal observations: when a person faces a difficulty his/her first reaction is usually negative (anger, sadness, dis-orientation...), the next step he/she tries and finds whom to blame in order to protect and justify him/herself. After that, one starts feeling weak. that is very interesting point - some people have tendency to make themselves "victims" of the circumstances, as general practice, the victim is weak and desperate in his/her weakness. When one feels as victim he/she has much less chances to go through the difficulty. What i do when i catch myself feeling or behaving as "victim" i say to myself "I am not victim, I am the WINNER!!!" that's how you sub-consiously instruct yourself to mobilize and find the way out/through.

[Uzbekxonim]

Oddiy insonlarni bolasi bo'lganim uchun, bizni muxitda "krutoy"lar yo'q edi, maslaxatlari bilan o'rtoqlashadigan. Shuning uchun, javobni asosan dunyo adabiyotidan qidirganman, baxtimga yosh yigitga hayotdagi o'rnini topishda yordam beradigan maslaxatlar deyarlik har-bitta buyuk yozuvchi, shoirda bor ekan. Shulardan harakterni tarbiyalash uchun eng asosiylari Lord Chesterfieldning o'g'liga hatlari, Ben.Franklinning Avtobiografiyasi, Moruaning "Pismo molodomu cheloveku o nauke jit", Baltazar Grazian, Stendal, Balzak va falsafa, ayniqsa stoik falsafasi bo'lsa kerak + self-improvement tools like time management, NLP and books by Brian Tracy, Steven Covey etc.

....

haqiatdan, kitoblar juda yordam etar ekan. Men Ozbekistonga ohirgi martda borganimda juda kop kitoblar sotib oldim, bizning Ozbek domishmand va faylasuflarning kitobi ("Oz-z o'rganib dono bo'lur", Sharq 2006 - juda zo'r kitob). Shu kitoblarni oqib juda ko'p narsa organdim... Baz'an ota-ona, aka-opalarni disturb qilgin kelmaydi, uzoqda bolganingda uydakilarni dissappoint qalmay deb ko'p narsani aytmaysan. o'zing o'ylab, kitoblardan oqib yolini topar ekansan.

O'zbek, O'rta Osiyo donishmandlarning kitoblarini oqishni juda tavsiya qilaman, chunki bizga yaqin mentalitet, biznin values va hurmat qilishimiz kerakli narsalar shunday kitoblarda yozilar ekan.

[Uzbekxonim]

I am weak , but I am afraid to look weak....it makes me stronger:lol:

it means that ur actions are external world oriented, i think that it will not make u very strong. for example, in my case i also tried to look stronger for others, this thought made me stronger. then, i realised that when i'm trying to be stronger because of making others think that i am - it is not efficient and profitable for me. then i started to prove to my ownself, to compete with my the weak part of me - as a result i can feel the stregth and experience i gained, which i like a lot :)

[Uzbekxonim]

Confidence!!! Confidence that I'm not the first and I'm not the last who face such a tough situation... ...
i also say the same... but don't u have this affirmation followed by a question: "but how they did it? how they went through that? real practical steps?"

[Uzbekxonim]

Ha aytgancha, hidoyatga bulgan umid makes me stronger. Asl haqiqtaga qaytmoq, unga erishish ilinji bilan yashayman.

shu joyini batafsilroq yozib o'tsangiz...

[Uzbekxonim]

batmanni korgan bosangiz, otasi ugliga aytadi, "people fall so they can get up". The more problems you have in your past, the stronger you get. Seeing people, trying to understand their problems, being positive is what makes me stronger. And plus I have a person who is super supportive. I talk to him, share my thoughts with him and Nothing really matters after that. How can I be weak with such background?)))

u r seem to be a lucky girl :) but in cases when you have problems/conflicts with this supportive person, what do you do? ;)

[Uzbek German]

salom,

My attituds,prancips idea personality and the way of my liveing makes me most strong also Hope for the better tommorow,faith to Alah are too.