The squalid truth about Craig Murray in Uzbekistan and his belly dancer lover

[Legend]

Esli chesno, ya ne znal v kakoy razdel postavit etu statyu, i v konce reshil zapostit mejdu nami mujikami :).



The squalid truth about Our Man in Uzbekistan and his belly dancer lover
By BARBARA DAVIES.



Almost three years have passed since Her Majesty's Ambassador to Uzbekistan found Nadira Alieva bellydancing in a Tashkent nightclub, slipped $20 down the back of her embroidered knickers and gave her his number.

That scandalous affair left Craig Murray's 20-year marriage - and his high-flying diplomatic career - in tatters.

But against all the odds, the 49-year-old father-of-two and the 26-year-old he once paid to be his mistress are still together.

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Exotic allure: Nadira Alleva was a dancer in an Uzbek nightclub



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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=504117&in_page_id=1770

[Ulug'bek]

Esli chesno, ya ne znal v kakoy razdel postavit etu statyu, i v konce reshil zapostit mejdu nami mujikami :).



The squalid truth about Our Man in Uzbekistan and his belly dancer lover
By BARBARA DAVIES.



Almost three years have passed since Her Majesty's Ambassador to Uzbekistan found Nadira Alieva bellydancing in a Tashkent nightclub, slipped $20 down the back of her embroidered knickers and gave her his number.

That scandalous affair left Craig Murray's 20-year marriage - and his high-flying diplomatic career - in tatters.

But against all the odds, the 49-year-old father-of-two and the 26-year-old he once paid to be his mistress are still together.

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Exotic allure: Nadira Alleva was a dancer in an Uzbek nightclub



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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=504117&in_page_id=1770

I respect Craig Murray, because he cares about my nation, my people, while countless others don't! Yes I don't agree with him on many things, but I do respect him, besause he is a sincere man who is trying to fight unjust world as he himself defines it and the way he sees...

Even this danser uzbek lady, he tried somehow to help her, imo...

Those who portrate Craig Murray black, do that not because he married a danser, visited night clubs or divorced his wife, but do that in order to discredit his critiques against them. Otherwise, they themselves are also involved in night club life style...

[KissingeR]

I dislike his attitude, For me he seems to think that he is the big player in every game. Tries way too hard to get the publicity for everything he does, loves being in the media and prospers under attention. Some of his concepts do not have any base, some are very biased but yet some are very right things to worry about.

But, his attitude of being in love with attention gets to me and I hate him as a result.

I dont care about his personal life, I dont give monkeys kaka if he goes to night clubs, I do not certanily loose a sleep if he is black or white, I do not give a damn about who his wife is and what she does.

She can be a transplant from a deer and a lion but I do not care.

Hate the fact that he always thinks he is right and tries too hard for attention.

[smirnoff]

Jalab ekanda bu Nodira. I did read Nadira's story and it is disgusting. I think many details are made up just to draw more public attention. "I danced topless for Romanian man". bitch!

[Maroon]

Isn't she still a strip dancer in the UK? :rolleyes:

[dauphin]

Even this danser uzbek lady, he tried somehow to help her, imo...




To help her????:shock: Maybe he wanted to satisfy his sexual needs? Maybe he wanted get something that he was not getting from his wife? :lol: How about other ladies he hired? He wanted to help to all of them? Then only thing I have to do is to thank all foreigners and some of my fellow citizens for using services of our Uzbek prostitutes.
I think you have a strange reasoning...
There is a "white" side of every story.

[Vector]

govorili chto ona bila parihmahershoy...
pozor prosto chto ona vitvoryaet...odam bomasakan bunaqala barbir

[Masanori]

Ulug'bek,


Striptizer qizlarga yordam berish uchun night clublarga borarmush... philantrop grebanniy :lool: :lool: :lool:


Ulug`bekni gapida jon bor lekin...man ham mana yaponkalarga yordam berib yuribman:lool:

[Maroon]

I respect Craig Murray, because he cares about my nation, my people, while countless others don't! Yes I don't agree with him on many things, but I do respect him, besause he is a sincere man who is trying to fight unjust world as he himself defines it and the way he sees...

Even this danser uzbek lady, he tried somehow to help her, imo...

Those who portrate Craig Murray black, do that not because he married a danser, visited night clubs or divorced his wife, but do that in order to discredit his critiques against them. Otherwise, they themselves are also involved in night club life style...



Did you read the article? The woman is openly saying that she flirts (and I am sure she has sex too) all the time with different men when he is not around.

She talks about how Murry loves to spank her around. :lol:

To be frank, I don't give crap what they do. They can go to Thailand and do sex shows for all I care but it is SOOO obvious that they are two attention whores and Murray is losing his credibility. He'll soon become some crackhead and land in some kind of rehabilitation center.

[smirnoff]

He'll soon become some crackhead and land in some kind of rehabilitation center.

Man buni bunaqa odam ekanligini bilmas edim. Churban ekanda. Odam shunchalik ham past ketadimi? O'sha yerda commentsnig o'qidiyzmi? Britsga atalgan zo'r bor edi.

[corsair]

I dont give a flying monkey, i dont care about somebody's personal life...

dont believe the truth! it might be fixed!
today's press dirtier than whores ...

PS: bu forumdagi userlarni birortasi ham hech qachon strip clubda bo'lmagan bulsa yoki belly dance ko'rmagan bulsa bu forumga "angels and saint's" deb nom berish kerak...

[lilbit]

I dont give a flying monkey, i dont care about somebody's personal life...

dont believe the truth! it might be fixed!
today's press dirtier than whores ...

PS: bu forumdagi userlarni birortasi ham hech qachon strip clubda bo'lmagan bulsa yoki belly dance ko'rmagan bulsa bu forumga "angels and saint's" deb nom berish kerak...

sounds funny and true :D))))

[corsair]

vse professii vajni, vse professii nujni...

[Maroon]

Ya angel! YA YA YA!!! :bounce:

[Ulug'bek]

Ulug`bekni gapida jon bor lekin...man ham mana yaponkalarga yordam berib yuribman:lool:

Bu e'tirofdan keyin Craig bilan sizning orangizda nima farq bor?!

Har kim o'z siyosiy qarashiga ega bo'lish huquqqiga ega emasmi?!

[Ulug'bek]

Ulug'bek,

dushmanimning dushmani meni do'stim qobilida ish tutayapsiz mi? Qozonga yaqin yursa, qorasi yuqadi deb shuni aytishar ekan de... Solihning Tohir Yoldosh bilan uchrashganlari ham shu seriyadan emas mi?


Striptizer qizlarga yordam berish uchun night clublarga borarmush... philantrop grebanniy :lool: :lool: :lool:

Mana Masanori ham borarkan o'sha yerlarga va ayni ishlarni qilarkan. Bu bilan endi uning siyosiy qarashlarini bir tinga chiqarishingiz lozimmi?!


Men Craigning hayot tarzini oqlamasligimni o'tgan postimda yozganman.

Ammo Men bu kabi xalqim ravnaqi uchun jon kuydirayotgan va umumiuy tarzda dunyo qabul etadigan yechim taqdim etayotgan jasur insonlarni hurmat qilmaslikni vijdonimga qarshi ish deb bilaman.

Men Uning vaziyatni baholashini, tahlilllarini va taqdim etayotgan yechimlarini savol ostiga olishim mumkin, ammo uning mening xalqimga yaxshilik istayotganiga shubha qilmayman va aynan shuning uchun uni hurmat qilaman.

[uzbekcfa2]

i totally agree with Mrs. reaper.

Craig Murray is not just a regular guy, he is a public figure. FYI, even US constitution allows the press to criticize public figures openly. Craig Murray's political campaign against uzbek government means nothing when he himself does such kind of stuff. Who is gonna take his word for serious after that? He is losing his credibility by doing that.

[corsair]

i totally agree with Mrs. reaper.

Craig Murray is not just a regular guy, he is a public figure. FYI, even US constitution allows the press to criticize public figures openly. Craig Murray's political campaign against uzbek government means nothing when he himself does such kind of stuff. Who is gonna take his word for serious after that? He is losing his credibility by doing that.

i dont believe in everything i read these days... mass media is freaked up...

[Kolobok]

I don't really know the whole story,but...what the hell UK ambassador was doing in lap-dancing place in the first place? Man,if you do it - you don't go to public places where all eyes are on you...plunk. I wouldn't be suprised if our intelligence service had a hand on this. :D What a story it would have been: British Bond got done by Uzbek mirshab! :)
If she likes dancing - let her dance. Nothing is wrong with it,if she has an open relationship with Craig Murray and if it suits them both - let it go. This is what we do - judge people without ever knowing what is going on behind the doors. Sure it doesn't help our girls reputation abroad,but there is not much you can do about it.
Mr.Murray really seems to be very different person from other diplomatic community,which hasn't worked well for him or maybe it did. If it is true,that he divorced his wife over this girl,maybe it's love? :) Or maybe he has sent a messege to the foriegn office: "Screw you all - I'll take care of Uzbekistan",which hasn't worked well either. Man that "cares so much about Uzbekistan" wouldn't jeopordize his immunity and credibility for the sake of a girl. But deep down for some reason I feel for both of them.
Good girls go to heaven,bad ones come to London.

[PainKiller]

This is totally out of place, but she has a nice body:rolleyes:
Do not want to say anything about wether it is good or not that he did what he did. I think I have no rights as anybody else to discuss someone's personal life.

[Maroon]

This is totally out of place, but she has a nice body:rolleyes:
Do not want to say anything about wether it is good or not that he did what he did. I think I have no rights as anybody else to discuss someone's personal life.

Of course we have no right to discuss someones personal life, but once it is made public by the person themselves, people will discuss it. Plus, if you read the article she is making a play out of it.

I just think they are attention whoring because obviously the attention they had in the beginning has vanished.

[PainKiller]

Of course we have no right to discuss someones personal life, but once it is made public by the person themselves, people will discuss it. Plus, if you read the article she is making a play out of it.

I just think they are attention whoring because obviously the attention they had in the beginning has vanished.
I understand all you said, but I am sort of sympathetic to people who are being talked about like this. Plus, everything was already said before me, so I can keep my freaken chatter-box mouth shut, it is eager to say something negative, I swear.

[KissingeR]

I still think he reluctantly picked Uzbekistan to use for his attention whoring purposes.

I do not think he has the slightest worry about Uzbekistan and its situation. If you listen to what he says it is crystal clear: he is just mumbling his way out.

A person who divorces a wife with kids for another one does not have any self-esteem in front of my eyes.

[Zamon]

I still think he reluctantly picked Uzbekistan to use for his attention whoring purposes.

I do not think he has the slightest worry about Uzbekistan and its situation. If you listen to what he says it is crystal clear: he is just mumbling his way out.

A person who divorces a wife with kids for another one does not have any self-esteem in front of my eyes.

I agree with you , when he was in Uzbekistan as an ambassador, he didnt act like one. Guy with very low morale. He was, probably still, a populist, Diplomats job must be first to be more Diplomatic, i dont even feel sorry for him, he desreved, that was his choice, and i am sure he really dont care about Uzbekistan, he is talking about it coz he dont have anything to say, he needed attention, he choose Uzbekistan, like BORAT guy did with Kazakhstan, Many people here thinks he was PROTECTOR OF UZBEKS...that is bull crap! really first go to Bar get some hookers, have fun, next day morning say Uzbek governmet is horrible, yes they are horrible but first look at yourself? is there any respect for host country when he represent ALL UK nation to uzbeks? its like a spit at ur face,

but wait this guy gonna use Uzbekistan one day again, maybe drink some poison and blame Karimov for that.

[Ulug'bek]

I do not think he has the slightest worry about Uzbekistan and its situation. If you listen to what he says it is crystal clear: he is just mumbling his way out..

I disagree. There is no logic behind taking such a risk in his diplomatic career other than that he wanted to see positive changes in Uzb.

Please read a little about what he did while in Uzb and how he stood up against USA and others who prefered to be silent because of then existing US-Uzbek strategic relations in so-called the war against terror:

http://www.indexonline.org/en/news/articles/2005/2/uzbekistan-craig-murray-interviewed.shtml

Look what he said at that time, when all needed Uzb government:

Uzbekistan is not a functioning democracy, nor does it appear to be moving in the direction of democracy. The major political parties are banned; parliament is not subject to democratic election and checks and balances on the authority of the executive are lacking.
October 17, 2002

http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2002/10/speech_by_ambas.html

Look how he praises our people, culture, history and land:


It is the land of the Oxus and the Jaxartes, where Alexander the Great was entranced by and married Roxanne and held court for the longest period of stationary rule anywhere in his short life; where the Greek state of Bactria flourished for many centuries after his passing, producing art of rare beauty.
It is the land of Tamburlaine, the wrack of whose mighty monuments still stand and whose tomb is still there, to bring us face to face with the reality of legend. It is the land of the sweet airs and delicious fruits of the Ferghana valley, for which Babur ever pined as he rode off into exile to conquer India and found the Mughal dynasty.
It was also, of course, the very centre of Islamic culture. I had not realised that the scientific advances which I learnt at school were brought by the Moors into Europe, had in fact originated in a great cultural flourishing in Central Asia. The great medic, Avicenna,
and the inventor of Algebra and other mathematical advances, both hailed from Uzbekistan, not to mention the astronomy of the Emperor Ulugbek, the elegant remains of whose observatory are for me the most arresting of all the wonders of Samarkand. This same golden period saw great advances in architecture, which spread, throughout the Islamic world. Sadly centuries of earthquake and the almost equally devastating heavy-handed restoration of the Soviet period, disastrously still continued by UNESCO, have left little of the original. But there is still much to thrill the soul.
Samarkand has long held a place in the British poetic imagination that is difficult to explain. A more recent layer of romance was added by the Great game, of which Bokhara, Khiva and Samarkand are perhaps most redolent to British minds today. To imagine myself in the footsteps of Alexander Burnes, to wander the outside the Ark of Bokhara speculating where lie the decapitated corpses of Stoddart and Connolly, and how to honour them, these were to me great private joys.
The British Embassy itself has its own romance. It was the Kerensky family home, birthplace of Alexander Fyodorovich Kerensky, who led Russia from February to October 1917, in that brief dawn of hope when Russia might have entered mainstream European history and economic development. It was he who proclaimed Russia a Republic in
September 1917. I used to hold conversations with Uzbek dissidents in my office and wonder what other whispered words those bricks had heard. Somewhere inside the building Kerensky's brother Nikolai was shot by the Bolsheviks in 1922.
The Uzbeks today are a hard-working people, greatly hospitable to strangers. Sadly they are living in a period of decline; economic decline, decline in standards of living and population decline. You will find that this short lecture is devoid of statistics; partly this is because I never remember them, and partly because there simply are no reliable statistics on Uzbekistan. Government sees statistics as largely an instrument of propaganda.

http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2004/11/speech_to_royal.html


Please be just in your judgements against such a person.
There might exist only few brave diplomats like him in the world today, who really care to make a positive changes for ordinary people of the countries they are in, imo.

[Atomic]

Who can not keep himself from such an immoral action is not a brave man/diplomat in general. Yes, all we can do such a mistake, but for diplomats its deadly mistake.