View Full Version : Want to invest dunno how?
passer_by
12-25-2007, 02:38 PM
I want to learn how to invest and i dunnow how? help plz.
corsair
12-25-2007, 05:19 PM
I want to learn how to invest and i dunnow how? help plz.
:-D
let me know how much u ve got... i need some investments in myself ...
lilbit
12-25-2007, 05:28 PM
I want to learn how to invest and i dunnow how? help plz.
what do you want to invest in??? Then we might discuss . . .
passer_by
12-25-2007, 07:34 PM
what do you want to invest in??? Then we might discuss . . .
Anything, stocks bonds cds, mutual funds,
lilbit
12-25-2007, 07:43 PM
Anything, stocks bonds cds, mutual funds,
what's you level of risk tolerance? Can you afford to lose all you money, that you are planning to invest? How much you could loose without pain? :D)))
I am investing only in stocks, that's why I am asking. And what ROI you are expecting to get? For example my favorite stock gave me ROI in 3 months of 47% and I expect much much more. Bot some people prefer money market with interest of 5,2% a year (a year, not a month! :D))) )
SO, ask all this questions and answer them by yourself.
Samimiy
12-25-2007, 08:38 PM
Open an account on Scottrade (or another discount online brokerage) and buy one of the index mutual funds. For example, Vanguard has an index mutual fund that mimics the S&P500 index. It's free to buy and sell mutual funds on Scottrade.
passer_by
12-25-2007, 11:47 PM
what's you level of risk tolerance? Can you afford to lose all you money, that you are planning to invest? How much you could loose without pain? :D)))
I am investing only in stocks, that's why I am asking. And what ROI you are expecting to get? For example my favorite stock gave me ROI in 3 months of 47% and I expect much much more. Bot some people prefer money market with interest of 5,2% a year (a year, not a month! :D))) )
SO, ask all this questions and answer them by yourself.
what is ROI?
passer_by
12-25-2007, 11:48 PM
Open an account on Scottrade (or another discount online brokerage) and buy one of the index mutual funds. For example, Vanguard has an index mutual fund that mimics the S&P500 index. It's free to buy and sell mutual funds on Scottrade.
It says 17 dollars to buy and sell :?
lilbit
12-25-2007, 11:52 PM
what is ROI?
Return on investment. Simply how much money you gonna make on the money you will spend for CD, mutual fund, stock, etc.
And I would advise to use Ameritrade or zecco.com (new brokerage with very low fees)!!! Here on forum we have an employee from Ameritrade. So take a look for thread about stocks.
Samimiy
12-26-2007, 12:04 AM
It says 17 dollars to buy and sell :?
That must be to buy and sell individual shares. I am pretty sure buying and selling mutual funds is free. Even if it's not free, $17 is a very small fee to pay, since this should be a long-term investment.
lilbit
12-26-2007, 12:06 AM
That must be to buy and sell individual shares. I am pretty sure buying and selling mutual funds is free. Even if it's not free, $17 is a very small fee to pay, since this should be a long-term investment.
the guy doesn't know what he wants from his money. that's a problem. As soon as he knows he will or will not be concerned about those fees.
Atomic
12-26-2007, 01:56 AM
what's you level of risk tolerance? Can you afford to lose all you money, that you are planning to invest? How much you could loose without pain? :D)))
I am investing only in stocks, that's why I am asking. And what ROI you are expecting to get? For example my favorite stock gave me ROI in 3 months of 47% and I expect much much more. Bot some people prefer money market with interest of 5,2% a year (a year, not a month! :D))) )
SO, ask all this questions and answer them by yourself.
47%- its not bad for blue apache!
lilbit
12-26-2007, 02:11 AM
47%- its not bad for blue apache!
if 47% is not bad what is your expectation from you investments? :D))))
Prenomad
12-26-2007, 03:12 AM
Anything, stocks bonds cds, mutual funds,
Investing in anything ?!, this kind of attitude will bring no good to you. You sound like - “I want to marry, any girl or women will do!” :).
Investing is like choosing your girlfriend or future wife. People (parents, friends or colleagues) can recommend a girl for you, but you have to make a decision. If you follow such advices blindly (without knowing the girl and having a decent feelings about her) your life will end up with pain and misery.
As forum users noted correctly, all depend on your investment objectives and risk attitude. Especially, you have to ponder carefully on the risks that investing involves. Say, you have $10 000 dollars to invest, can you afford loosing 25% of that money within a month or 6 months, or a year? Or the worth scenario – what you will do if you loose all of your $10 000 dollars, can you live through it?
Generally, you should consider following 4 common forms of investing; stocks, bonds, property and cash deposits.
There are some well-explained useful info about investing at Wikipedia.org, it is free. Alternatively, you have to read some books and manuals about investing such as The Intelligent Investor by Benjamin Graham , it is not expensive – about $11 dollars (used).
Once you decide the types of investment you want to make, then, it would be easy to exchange info and thoughts.
lilbit
12-26-2007, 03:23 AM
gosh, this stock should have a huge undiversifiable risk.
are you counting only change in price of the stock?
Well, check this stock (NASDAQ:RMBS). Only 2 analysts follow this stock and I'll tell you their analysis reports are not as smart (may be because the are writing 100 of reports :))
Regarding the stock, it's the only in my portfolio after 3 months of analyzing everything. My risk assessment was based only on probabilities of winning in court, new patents, signing new license contracts.
For sure, RMBS has very huge undiversifiable risk because of uncertainty. And uncertainty was everywhere. Now it's kind of .6 probability that the price of it be $64 by the end of the year (analyst's assessment) . So basic decison tree and you'll get actual, theoretical stock price. But, I found stock market's high level of psychopathy.
You also might be interested in SanDisc (SNDK). Very high probability of increasing in price by at least 40% by the end of the next year.
Atomic
12-27-2007, 02:03 PM
if 47% is not bad what is your expectation from you investments? :D))))
I do only for 100% and more. Don't like risks.
insider
12-27-2007, 02:39 PM
I believe the best investments are the ones that:
-you understand best (just because someone made a fortune on an asset does not mean you will be equally successfull)
-suites your risk-return appetite (simply said, to make 50% return on an asset, be prepared to lose all of your initial investment)
-suites your investment horizon (do you have patience to wait 6m, 1y, or 2y? )
You have many asset classes to chose from : stocks, bonds, money-market instruments, CFD, property, FX and so on)
Also, when your initial capital is relatively small, you will be restricted to a few asset classes (because of transaction costs, and inability to sufficiently diversify your investments)
On the other hand, if you bought a property in Tashkent 2 years ago, your investment would have doubled by now. (thought process of an obsessed investor :-D )
Disclaimer: The above is not investment recommendation. So if you lose your shirt because of it, dont say it was me :D
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Atomic
12-27-2007, 02:54 PM
insider malades, man qo'shilishaman. agar ja pulni qatga quyishni bilmay turgan busez, ozginasina bolalar uyga hadiya qiling va qolgani yostiqni tagiga quyib moment kelishini kutib utiring. yurak sezadi uzi, o'shanda sarflisiz. mana sizga olam olam gul, etakinga siqqanicha ol.
passer_by
12-27-2007, 09:14 PM
I do only for 100% and more. Don't like risks.
what do u mean?
Uzbek German
12-28-2007, 08:08 PM
Hi,
a german Banker wrote in a book Whom ever want to invest but dont know how. they are leiing or the mony belongs not to them.
and i say easy come easy go
passer_by
12-28-2007, 09:10 PM
I hear that a lot, Bears and Bulls. What is it, anyone knows?
Uyyonli
12-28-2007, 09:11 PM
well if u got about 100 grand I want to use it. I know what to invest it for. And I'll pay u interest and some percentage money. If u want to do that we can do it via some sort of a bank or some other organizations so I won't break the deal. I don't know how it works but right now I am looking for some great opportunities but I have no money :( If I had 100 more grand money I would triple triple that money(200x3=600) by the end of next year!!! if u want to cooperate I can help u. But wait till I get a good internet and phone connection.
So u got 100 grand? PM me ok ;)
lilbit
12-28-2007, 09:13 PM
I hear that a lot, Bears and Bulls. What is it, anyone knows?
go and get some books on making money! ;)
or, keep your money in the bank. It's the only way to make you . . . :D
passer_by
12-28-2007, 09:21 PM
go and get some books on making money! ;)
or, keep your money in the bank. It's the only way to make you . . . :D
books will not help me, advice will.
lilbit
12-28-2007, 09:41 PM
If Books Cannot Help Then . . . Keep You Money In The Bank!!!!
insider
12-29-2007, 06:19 PM
well if u got about 100 grand I want to use it. I know what to invest it for. And I'll pay u interest and some percentage money. If u want to do that we can do it via some sort of a bank or some other organizations so I won't break the deal. I don't know how it works but right now I am looking for some great opportunities but I have no money :( If I had 100 more grand money I would triple triple that money(200x3=600) by the end of next year!!! if u want to cooperate I can help u. But wait till I get a good internet and phone connection.
So u got 100 grand? PM me ok ;)
It is sounding like a "lottery effect" -
the more return you promise, the more chance that someone will end up giving you money. :lol:
On a serious note, I find generating ideas the easiest (how many do you need?! :-D), and funding the second easiest. The hardest part is execution. Because that is where there is the greatest chance for things to go wrong.
Once you have shown that you made sound decisions (which made money) on a couple of projects/ventures (however small in scale), people will come to you by themselves to invest their money.
Good luck in your business!
corsair
12-29-2007, 06:36 PM
well if u got about 100 grand I want to use it. I know what to invest it for. And I'll pay u interest and some percentage money. If u want to do that we can do it via some sort of a bank or some other organizations so I won't break the deal. I don't know how it works but right now I am looking for some great opportunities but I have no money :( If I had 100 more grand money I would triple triple that money(200x3=600) by the end of next year!!! if u want to cooperate I can help u. But wait till I get a good internet and phone connection.
So u got 100 grand? PM me ok ;)
what, have you still got them connections in iraq? :-D
PS: have you seen the movie "The Lord of War"? :-D
lilbit
12-29-2007, 07:51 PM
It is sounding like a "lottery effect" -
the more return you promise, the more chance that someone will end up giving you money. :lol:
On a serious note, I find generating ideas the easiest (how many do you need?! :-D), and funding the second easiest. The hardest part is execution. Because that is where there is the greatest chance for things to go wrong.
Once you have shown that you made sound decisions (which made money) on a couple of projects/ventures (however small in scale), people will come to you by themselves to invest their money.
Good luck in your business!
Oh man, I'd like to hear some ideas from you and everybody else. Of course if that's idea is not stolen from somebody or already has been generated and failed in execution. Let's say I'm looking for something that is more an idea than a dream. Something realizable, workable, and not so f&ckin expensive as get to the Mars ;)
To generate an idea is a big pain.
I would put funding to the first place in the list as it's not as hard to be funded if you have an idea, not just dumb business plan (here I agree with you in some ways).
So . . . :D))))
idiom
12-29-2007, 09:16 PM
Bir uzimiz firma ochmaimizmi? Forumdigilar birlashsa biron tuzuk ishni boshlasek bulardi.
Shambles
12-29-2007, 09:40 PM
Bir uzimiz firma ochmaimizmi? Forumdigilar birlashsa biron tuzuk ishni boshlasek bulardi.
Yoki hamma urishib ketardi...;)
ikbaljohn
12-30-2007, 12:00 AM
Paynet ochish kere,xoz hamma Paynet ochyapti.Jaa borsa 300 $ tushadi:lol:
Vector
12-30-2007, 12:07 AM
Paynet ochish kere,xoz hamma Paynet ochyapti.Jaa borsa 300 $ tushadi:lol:
kak raztaki hamma ochvatgani uchunam ochish keremas, undan kop pul tushimidi, uldi u biznes...
ikbaljohn
12-30-2007, 12:10 AM
kak raztaki hamma ochvatgani uchunam ochish keremas, undan kop pul tushimidi, uldi u biznes...
Siz odamlarga o'xshab 100 ushlab qomasangiz,hamma sizga keladi.O'lmaydi bu biznes.Kompga chiroyli,oyoqlari uzun qizni o'tqazib qo'ysangiz,hamma bo'ydoq yigitlar o'sha yerda to'laydi.Ana marketingu,mana marketing.Odamlar 5-6 yil marketolog bo'laman deb o'qiydi,hayotni o'zi marketolog qip qo'yarkan:mrgreen:
Крейсер
12-30-2007, 07:52 PM
you are a sheep when it comes to trading US stocks/bonds!
(so am I; so are the 99.9% of people in this forum). there are wolves out there. you will not make money from trading individual stocks. one-two times you'll get lucky but you'll loose in the long run. My sincere advice (but God knows best):
(1) if you have debt, use your money to repay it
(2) if ever wanted to share something with your parents, this is the time.
(3) if your can wait for 3-5 yrs, buy an index. use ETFs to buy any index you want, not the mutual funds (you can learn more from finance.yahoo.com).
wow_kabob
12-30-2007, 08:03 PM
you are a sheep when it comes to trading US stocks/bonds!
(so am I; so are the 99.9% of people in this forum). there are wolves out there. you will not make money from trading individual stocks. one-two times you'll get lucky but you'll loose in the long run. My sincere advice (but God knows best):
(1) if you have debt, use your money to repay it
(2) if ever wanted to share something with your parents, this is the time.
(3) if your can wait for 3-5 yrs, buy an index. use ETFs to buy any index you want, not the mutual funds (you can learn more from finance.yahoo.com).
Makes sense.......!:shock:
lilbit
12-30-2007, 08:05 PM
you are a sheep when it comes to trading US stocks/bonds!
(so am I; so are the 99.9% of people in this forum). there are wolves out there. you will not make money from trading individual stocks. one-two times you'll get lucky but you'll loose in the long run. My sincere advice (but God knows best):
(1) if you have debt, use your money to repay it
(2) if ever wanted to share something with your parents, this is the time.
(3) if your can wait for 3-5 yrs, buy an index. use ETFs to buy any index you want, not the mutual funds (you can learn more from finance.yahoo.com).
with such a psychology "you are a sheep" one might blame himself when hi is in trouble. You are right that there are 99.9% sheep. But don't be stupid! Have your own head on your shoulders not some analyst's or adviser's especially when it comes to investments.
And BTW, I agree with N1 and N2. Don't invest money you are gonna spend for you living, debt, parents and etc.
IMHO
L.
P.S. N3 is not for me.
Uyyonli
01-01-2008, 05:17 AM
I have done couple of businesses and it worked... but right now I am f@dging stuck, no time, no connections, stock in between desicions. But I know I can wait for another 7 months and I'll be back in business again !!!
I don't go for heavy and complicated business... I start small where I can take the fail and redo it again. I start with a little practice and if my plans to fail then I'll try something else. Of course buddie, I'm not gonna use all of my money on the business even if I am 110% sure. Besides I know many mexicans cavron :lool:
passer_by
01-02-2008, 05:57 PM
what do you think about gold? Will it go up.
lilbit
01-02-2008, 06:03 PM
what do you think about gold? Will it go up.
yes! it will go up!
go and by anything you want!!! :D))))
BTW, if you buy this forum, it's a good investment ;)
passer_by
01-02-2008, 06:19 PM
yes! it will go up!
go and by anything you want!!! :D))))
BTW, if you buy this forum, it's a good investment ;)
What about silver? :rolleyes:
lilbit
01-02-2008, 06:29 PM
passer_by, read my post http://forum.arbuz.com/showpost.php?p=879263&postcount=41
pay attention!!! read it! there is everything you should know!
uzbekcfa2
01-02-2008, 06:49 PM
BTW, if you buy this forum, it's a good investment ;)
why do you think so? because you wanna own it and sit here forever?:twisted:
lilbit
01-02-2008, 08:25 PM
why do you think so? because you wanna own it and sit here forever?:twisted:
because I wanna ban everybody and sit here alone!!! :D))))
Amiri Turkiston
01-02-2008, 10:54 PM
uzbekcfa2
Siz ishingiz nima buldi taqsir?
Uzir usha kuni hayir demasdan ketishimga to'g'ri keldi...chunki uchrashuvga odamlar pryamoy honamga kirib kelishdi...darrow chiqib ketishga to'g'ri keldi
lekin usha niznesni unutganingiz ham ma'qul....osilganga yarasha oyoq etadigan osilish afzalroq....baland dorda tomoq qiynalib qolisihi mumkin .... :P
Amiri Turkiston
01-02-2008, 10:59 PM
o'zi hamma 1 so'mni 2 so'm qilmoqchi bulganlar shutta eg'ilar ekande :-)
ee baraka topilar!
manim bitta maslahatim - tushungan ishingizni qilinglar - va pulingiz etadigan maydaroq ishdan boshlanglar!
bulmasam kishkasi kichiklik qilgan biznessmenlar bir tonna - polniy qarzga botib bor yog'idan ayrilib qolganlar!
lekin hamisha bitta ish bilan emas...qo'shimcha yana ul-bul bilan shug'ullaning - bir birini strahovka qiladi ular!
$Dollar AkA$
01-10-2008, 05:48 AM
if you wanna make big investment in IT branch some thing over 5 milion$ then let me know .
$Dollar AkA$
01-12-2008, 02:38 PM
It is Unbliveble investing in Tashkints Aparments .
you can make 100% profit .
SAMARKANDI!
01-12-2008, 03:03 PM
I want to learn how to invest and i dunnow how? help plz.
Seems like you have to invest in yourself first i.e. buy some good books, do some research online or attend some good classes or use networking :)
My friendly advice would be, be little conservative as you start and till u get a grip :)
what books? there are 1000 books
Start from number One
passer_by
01-12-2008, 06:44 PM
It is Unbliveble investing in Tashkints Aparments .
you can make 100% profit .
Can you elaborate more?
passer_by
01-12-2008, 06:45 PM
what books? there are 1000 books Seems like you have to invest in yourself first i.e. buy some good books, do some research online or attend some good classes or use networking :)
My friendly advice would be, be little conservative as you start and till u get a grip :)
passer_by
01-12-2008, 10:29 PM
http://www.global-derivatives.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=5&id=13&Itemid=31/o-types.php nice website for newbies. I am reading now.
Tough_guY
01-17-2008, 02:10 AM
I hear that a lot, Bears and Bulls. What is it, anyone knows?
Hi,
Bulls and bears are different types of investors, the bulls are being those who expect stock prices to rise, the bears are being those who believe stock prices are about to decline.
uzbekcfa2
04-27-2008, 04:03 PM
abcd(efgh), :)
how about zecco?
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