Ireland

[Shambles]

Inspired by Martingale (sorry man, don't really like your current nick):)

Since I live in Ireland at the moment and we (Uzbek nationals) don't know much about this country, I would like to give you some basic info about the Emerald Island (or Eire - this is how Irish people call their country). It's not the type of info you might easily find in Google, it's just my understanding and experience.

Ireland's a tiny but a cozy place (amaaaaazing landscapes and beautiful nature). Irish people don't know anything about Uzbekistan that's why they keep asking me where Borat comes from. They are very very friendly if you speak decent English and willing to assimilate with local culture which is, surprisingly, very similar to our Uzbek culture. They drink a lot of tea (British influence) and they have a traditional dish which tastes exactly like our "qaynatma shurva". A good sense of humour and adequacy (not like Swedes or Germans) are other attributes to appreciate in Irish people. The Irish economy did an amazing job in last 10 years (10 years ago this country was very poor) due to openning its attractive market (geographically, linguistically) for foreign investors by providing the tax privileges and other perks. The US helped a lot as well - which is another significant aspect to mention.

Irish people do not really hate Brits, but they dont really love them either. 700 years under Britain is still in minds of some Irish nationalists. Otherwise, the Irish/British relationships are somewhat identical to the Uzbek/Russian relationships.

A life for immigrants is quite ok, unless you're black (they have some preconceptions towards them) or don't speak English. People are friendly and helpful, since they were wandering themselves everywhere in search for a better life in not that distant past. But two-three generations and they would become less-friendly towards immigrants, since Irish kids are living a posh life nowadays.

It doesn't really matter whether you're a muslim or a buddhist, unless you try to impose your values and beliefs upon them.

Irish people drink a lot of beer and drink it almost every day (Guinness is very good in here). Furthermore, they are not that sporty, that is why to see people with huge bellies is an ordinary thing (that was a bit shocking to me after spending some time in Sweden).

Instead of conclusion: I enjoy it so far!

If you have any questions feel free to post them here and I get back to you as soon as I can.

[uzbekcfa2]

Thanks, mate. it's always more interesting to hear from someone who's got first-hand experience than reading those stuff online. i didn't know that irish people call their country "Eire". actually all i knew is Guinness.:D

[Shambles]

Thanks, mate. it's always more interesting to hear from someone who's got first-hand experience than reading those stuff online. i didn't know that irish people call their country "Eire". actually all i knew is Guinness.:D

No prob! All I knew before moving here was the Guinness and its Records Book, Irish football team (since I'm a big fan of football) and their passion towards Rugby, Collin Farrell, Enya and U2. So, you're not alone!:D

BTW, do u know that leprechauns (funny midgets) are from Ireland???:)

[melo]

No prob! All I knew before moving here was the Guinness and its Records Book, Irish football team (since I'm a big fan of football) and their passion towards Rugby, Collin Farrell, Enya and U2. So, you're not alone!:D

BTW, do u know that leprechauns (funny midgets) are from Ireland???:)

I thought all the Irish people moved to the US. :lol: It seems like everyone in the US claims to be Irish :rolleyes:

[uzbekcfa2]

No prob! All I knew before moving here was the Guinness and its Records Book, Irish football team (since I'm a big fan of football) and their passion towards Rugby, Collin Farrell, Enya and U2. So, you're not alone!:D

BTW, do u know that leprechauns (funny midgets) are from Ireland???:)

enya, u2 and rugby - those are well known. but what kind of passion irish people have towards colin farrell?

Im tellin you...there's always sth weird about europeans.:lol:

leprechauns? got no idea, man. ask me sth easier.:lol:

[Shambles]

I thought all the Irish people moved to the US. :lol: It seems like everyone in the US claims to be Irish :rolleyes:

Yeap, you're right, there are a lot of Irish in the US and they love the US very much...:)

[uzbekcfa2]

I thought all the Irish people moved to the US. :lol: It seems like everyone in the US claims to be Irish :rolleyes:

do you claim to be irish too?:)

i cant agree on that. i've never seen any american saying "oh Im an irish man". instead, they are always proud of being american, although there is no such a nation.

well, actually, they are more proud to be a fan of their football teams than being an american. :lol:

BTW, I am a proud member of Bulldog nation. :lol:

[melo]

do you claim to be irish too?:)

i cant agree on that. i've never seen any american saying "oh Im an irish man". instead, they are always proud of being american, although there is no such a nation.

well, actually, they are more proud to be a fan of their football teams than being an american. :lol:

Nope, not Irish. I am not really into claiming certain ethnicities anyways.

there is no such nation??? :shock: Thats surprising.

Everyone always claims to be Irish. Look for the really white people with red hair. :lol: And they always seem to wear green Ireland t-shirts.

[Shambles]

enya, u2 and rugby - those are well known. but what kind of passion irish people have towards colin farrell?

Im tellin you...there's always sth weird about europeans.:lol:

leprechauns? got no idea, man. ask me sth easier.:lol:

Collin is damn popular here... They generally dont think he's a great actor but find him cute (esp. girls, of course)...:D

I really enjoyed one joke about Bono from U2... I was on a sight-seeing tour when the guide asked us whether we know the difference between Bono and the God? Well, we obviously didn't... Then the guide said: "Ok, let me tell you then - you'll never be able to see the God walking down the O'Connell Street (the main street in Dublin) pretending that he is Bono, whereas...":D:D:D That was hillarious!!!:D:D:D

[Shambles]

there is no such nation??? :shock: Thats surprising.

Everyone always claims to be Irish. Look for the really white people with red hair. :lol: And they always seem to wear green Ireland t-shirts.

Hahaha, that's exactly how Irish people look like...:D

[uzbekcfa2]

there is no such nation??? :shock: Thats surprising.

Everyone always claims to be Irish. Look for the really white people with red hair. :lol: And they always seem to wear Ireland t-shirts.

I was referring to "american" when I said there is no such a nation.

I have met very few people down here with red hair. maybe all irish people are in your state?:lol: Maybe you have stolen them from us. Give our irish people back ASAP!:twisted::lol:

[melo]

I was referring to "american" when I said there is no such a nation.

I have met very few people down here with red hair. maybe all irish people are in your state?:lol: Maybe you have stolen them from us. Give our irish people back ASAP!:twisted::lol:

Go to New York or Massachusetts. :lol:

[uzbekcfa2]

Collin is damn popular here... They generally dont think he's a great actor but find him cute (esp. girls, of course)...:D


you were talkin about how irish people are passionate about rugby, U2 and you put farrell in the same line, so just to make sure i asked that question.:D

[uzbekcfa2]

Go to New York or Massachusetts. :lol:

have been to boston, MA and New york. i can tell you this. new york is a real melting pot. A real metropolitan city. boston reminded me some old european cities. Im saying "reminded" as if i've been to european cities.:lol: but yeah, i had that kinda feeling.

irish people are everywhere in US, melo. but we are talkin about real irish people from ireland. not the ones who immigrated to america a long time ago.
I had some irish friends on campus and they were all exchange students. they all used to drink a lot. irish girls looked like pamela anderson.:lol:

[melo]

have been to boston, MA and New york. i can tell you this. new york is a real melting pot. A real metropolitan city. boston reminded me some old european cities. Im saying "reminded" as if i've been to european cities.:lol: but yeah, i had that kinda feeling.

irish people are everywhere in US, melo. but we are talkin about real irish people from ireland. not the ones who immigrated to america a long time ago.
I had some irish friends on campus and they were all exchange students. they all used to drink a lot. irish girls looked like pamela anderson.:lol:


They are no longer real irish people when they live in the US? :lol: everyone always tells me American is not an ethnicity. They have to be something, right??? :lol:

[uzbekcfa2]

They are no longer real irish people when they live in the US? :lol:

yes, thats what i mean. not only irish...but any other nation. just look at the kids of first-generation russian immigrants. america has its own unique culture. and when we say irish-americans, we are talkin about people whose ancestors came to this land mor than 200 years ago. so no irish left in them. excpet for red hair:lol:

[Shambles]

irish girls looked like pamela anderson.:lol:

You mean they had a huge breast?:D

[Elegance]

Very interesting and informative thread. Molodec, Shambles! :D

Could you share some information about the living expenses, plz.

[uzbekcfa2]

You mean they had a huge breast?:D

:lol:

yeah, but i also meant their look. blonde, green eyes, etc. :D

[Shambles]

:lol:

yeah, but i also meant their look. blonde, green eyes, etc. :D

Are you sure that you are not confusing them with Scandinavian girls???:D

[Shambles]

Very interesting and informative thread. Molodec, Shambles! :D

Could you share some information about the living expenses, plz.


No prob! The living expenses look as follows:

1. Accommodation: a decent room is not less than 400 Euro per month (excluding other bills such as electricity)

2. Meal: really depends on your taste and money you can afford to spend on food (from 250 if you cook at home to "sky is the limit")

3. Transport: 80 euros for a monthly pass in public transport

4. Social life:
Public Museums - free of charge
Theaters - from 25 Euro and above
Cinema - 6-10 Euro
Pubs - from 5 Euro for a pint of beer
Restaurants - from 20 Euro and above

5. Health and Medical Insurance:
Insurance - 300 Euro annually (student insurance) and above
Gym and Fitness - from 300-400 Euro annually

Elegance, is this info sufficient? If not, please let me know and I can elaborate more on any of these points.

[Shambles]

BTW, are you in Denmark, Elegance? Could you open a new thread and tell us sth interesting about Denmark? We would appreciate that!:)

[uzbekcfa2]

Are you sure that you are not confusing them with Scandinavian girls???:D

No. why?:D

yeah, my description fits more scandinavian girls, especially swedish:D

[Elegance]

BTW, are you in Denmark, Elegance? Could you open a new thread and tell us sth interesting about Denmark? We would appreciate that!:)

Yes, I am in Denmark.
Good idea! I will open a new thread about Denmark later. :)

Elegance, is this info sufficient? If not, please let me know and I can elaborate more on any of these points.

Thanx a lot. Almost the same price as in Denmark. Well, a bit expensive. :rolleyes:

Next question:

Don't you know any international architectural companies in Dublin? I googled, but could find nothing.

[corsair]

qachon o'zini orolini maqtashni boshlar ekan deb yurgan edim... ana, boshlandi...

:-D

[Elegance]

qachon o'zini orolini maqtashni boshlar ekan deb yurgan edim... ana, boshlandi...

:-D

Corsair, siz ham maqtashni boshlasangiz yomon bo'lmas edi. Ayniqsa, architectural company haqida ma'lumot bersangiz juda ham minnatdor bo'lar edim sizdan. :D

[Googler]

3. Transport: 80 euros for a monthly pass in public transport


Much more expensive.

In Moscow a monthly pass (underground/subway, trolley, tram, bus) costs 20-25 Euro.
If u're a student it costs 10-11 Euro per month.

[Iqbol]

fransiya ham yomon mamlakat emas :)

[corsair]

fransiya ham yomon mamlakat emas :)

qatta u? :-D

[Googler]

Don't you know any international architectural companies in Dublin? I googled, but could find nothing.

You may find some of them at:
http://www.idaireland.com/home/index.aspx?id=158

[corsair]

:lol:

yeah, but i also meant their look. blonde, green eyes, etc. :D

irish ladies... uh... they drink a lot... :lol:

[corsair]

shambles, i decided to move to your island... it sounds great... :-D

[corsair]

architectural company :D
aniqroq qilib yozsangiz yordam berishga harakat qilib ko'rar edim...

[uzbekcfa2]

shambles, i decided to move to your island... it sounds great... :-D

yeah, seems like a paradise island:lol:

[corsair]

yeah, seems like a paradise island:lol:

guiness ni ichib olib "line dance" qilishadi, keyin ko'chaga chiqib irish fight ...

shambles, i am serious about moving to RI...

[Elegance]

Well, guys, very soon (in spring 2009 :D) I have to begin my internship. So have to find an appropriate place. Will disturb you with all kind of possible questions. :rolleyes:

fransiya ham yomon mamlakat emas :)

Iqbol, France damisiz? Qaysi shahardasiz? Siz ham bitta thread oching, iltimos. Sizga ham savollarim bor edi. :)

P.S.: Shambles, sorry for the offtop.

[uzbekcfa2]

guiness ni ichib olib "line dance" qilishadi...
like this?:D

YouTube - IRISH DANCE!!


proof for "paradise island":D:

YouTube - Irish Dance

[Elegance]

like this?:D

YouTube - IRISH DANCE!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W22gpBv00gg&feature=related)


proof for "paradise island":D:

YouTube - Irish Dance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSaa-2t2zmQ)

Wow, Martingale...

Michael Flatley.. He is recognized as the Lord of the Irish Dance... :D
He is amazing...

[corsair]

Well, guys, very soon (in spring 2009 :D) I have to begin my internship. So have to find an appropriate place. Will disturb you with all kind of possible questions. :rolleyes:



Iqbol, France damisiz? Qaysi shahardasiz? Siz ham bitta thread oching, iltimos. Sizga ham savollarim bor edi. :)

P.S.: Shambles, sorry for the offtop.

offtopchidan offtop uchun uzur so'ramang... :D:D

[RockerDen]

Much more expensive.

In Moscow a monthly pass (underground/subway, trolley, tram, bus) costs 20-25 Euro.
If u're a student it costs 10-11 Euro per month.

E X P E N S I V E!!!!!!!!!!

I have a semestrial pass, which I bought for about 130 Euro.

[corsair]

vo, semeyka v sbore... :-D

manda umuman pass yo'q... pay as you go...

[RockerDen]

vo, semeyka v sbore... :-D

manda umuman pass yo'q... pay as you go...

Piratam - tankistam on i ne nujen;)

[corsair]

Piratam - tankistam on i ne nujen;)

agar anabu istinniy irlandetc mehmonga chaqirsa boramizmi maqtovga sazovor irlandiyaga...

irlandiyani duBlin midi? :-D

[Shambles]

Yes, I am in Denmark.
Good idea! I will open a new thread about Denmark later. :)



Thanx a lot. Almost the same price as in Denmark. Well, a bit expensive. :rolleyes:

Next question:

Don't you know any international architectural companies in Dublin? I googled, but could find nothing.

Looking forward to your thread. I liked Copenhagen very much. It's a cute city and vivid city.

I don't know much about architectural companies (since it's not my profile) but will try to find out for you.

[Shambles]

No. why?:D

yeah, my description fits more scandinavian girls, especially swedish:D

Oh, Swedish girls: very cute outside and corrupted inside...:?

[corsair]

Oh, Swedish girls: very cute outside and corrupted inside...:?

IKEA furniture ga o'hshar ekanda... :lool:

[Shambles]

Much more expensive.

In Moscow a monthly pass (underground/subway, trolley, tram, bus) costs 20-25 Euro.
If u're a student it costs 10-11 Euro per month.

Here you pay 80 Euro monthly just for a bus. For Luas (aka trams) and DARTs (short distance trains) you pay extra. And if you're a student you pay 65 Euro monthly.

In general, the public transport system is not that good in here. I would say one of the worst in Europe.

P.S. There is no underground.

[corsair]

Here you pay 80 Euro monthly just for a bus. For Luas (aka trams) and DARTs (short distance trains) you pay extra. And if you're a student you pay 65 Euro monthly.

In general, the public transport system is not that good in here. I would say one of the worst in Europe.

P.S. There is no underground.

no underground... to'nel qazishsa relslar uzunligidan to'nillariga sig'mas emish. orol kichkina, bir boshidan ikkinchi boshiga overground 10 minutda piyoda borsa bo'ladi... :-D

[Shambles]

fransiya ham yomon mamlakat emas :)

qatta u? :-D

Shu kup gapirmasdan bitta bitta thread ochvorsela ancha yahshiroq bulardi...;)

[corsair]

Shu kup gapirmasdan bitta bitta thread ochvorsela ancha yahshiroq bulardi...;)


uh, super offtobchi kam gapirish bo'yicha maslahat berdilar...

agar thread ochsam ko'p gapirishga majbur bo'laman, yana buni ustiga bizani orolda uzbeklar ko'p. maslahat bilan jonga tegishadi...

threadni nomini UK yoki the great british empire deb nomlaymi? ;)

[Shambles]

shambles, i decided to move to your island... it sounds great... :-D

yeah, seems like a paradise island:lol:

guiness ni ichib olib "line dance" qilishadi, keyin ko'chaga chiqib irish fight ...

shambles, i am serious about moving to RI...


You are NOT welcome... :-D

P.S. RI emas, ROI buladi...Shu isolated qishlog'izda yashab elementarniy narsalarni bilmas ekansiz...:lol:

[Shambles]

E X P E N S I V E!!!!!!!!!!

I have a semestrial pass, which I bought for about 130 Euro.

Then open a new thread and tell us more about it... Especially, I'm interested in knowing more about Israelians, since I see some major discrepancies between your information and my friends' information who currently reside in Israel.

No offence, Rocker, just being curious!;)

[Shambles]

like this?:D

YouTube - IRISH DANCE!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W22gpBv00gg&feature=related)


proof for "paradise island":D:

YouTube - Irish Dance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSaa-2t2zmQ)

I went to watch them live last summer! Fantabulous!:P

[Shambles]

uh, super offtobchi kam gapirish bo'yicha maslahat berdilar...

agar thread ochsam ko'p gapirishga majbur bo'laman, yana buni ustiga bizani orolda uzbeklar ko'p. maslahat bilan jonga tegishadi...

threadni nomini UK yoki the great british empire deb nomlaymi? ;)

Voy qurqog' -e!!! Qimirlagan qir oshar degan gapni eshitganmisiz, janob Corsair???;)

Qani tez borib bitta thread oching, biz ham bililu qushni davlatda nimalar buvotganini...:D

[corsair]

is there any immigration program something like "highly skilled migrant worker"...

[uzbekcfa2]

What's the difference between Irish pub and British pub?

Have you been to "Irish pub" in Tashkent? Say that it sucks!:lol:

[Shambles]

is there any immigration program something like "highly skilled migrant worker"...

Yes, there is! But only for doctors and accountants...

P.S. I'm none of the two, btw :)))

[Shambles]

What's the difference between Irish pub and British pub?

Have you been to "Irish pub" in Tashkent? Say that it sucks!:lol:

Martin, dont really know the difference, since I've never been to a British pub.

However, I've been to one Irish pub in Tashkent (hope we are talking about the same pub). In that pub everything was decorated according to the Irish standards and by the Irish designer.. Nevertheless, it sucks big time! Disgusting beer and awful service!

[corsair]

What's the difference between Irish pub and British pub?

Have you been to "Irish pub" in Tashkent? Say that it sucks!:lol:

irish pub- the place to drink and fight during or between your drinks
british pub - the place to drink and fight only after you finished with all your drinks... :-D

irish pub in tash... is that the one on darhan... i wouldnt call it a pub... cafe...

[Ma'ruf]

Don't they speak Irish in Ireland?

[Shambles]

Don't they speak Irish in Ireland?

Good question. They have to, but nowadays only people in rural areas use it as a communication tool. Most of Irish people understand Irish but don't speak it. It's a compulsory language in schools where English is the medium of instruction, but you can also find loads of Irish-speaking schools and generally the quality of education in Irish-speaking schools is considered somewhat better.

Frankly speaking, no need to learn Irish, coz everything you can imagine is in English (with tiny subtitles in Irish sometimes and only sometimes).

NB: The Irish language sounds like the Latin language sometimes (Yes, I heard the Latin language:D)

P.S. Don't really know why, but the Irish government has recently lobbied and included the Irish language into the list of official languages of the EU. Now all EU documentation should be translated into Irish as well. These guys don't know what to do with the EU taxpayers' money, do they???:)

[Frida]

P.S. Don't really know why, but the Irish government has recently lobbied and included the Irish language into the list of official languages of the EU. Now all EU documentation should be translated into Irish as well. These guys don't know what to do with the EU taxpayers' money, do they???:)

things should be that way in civic countries. everybody's native language should be protected, not only the "powerful" ones. this started in Europe after they launched "European Charter on languages". it is a good thing, overall. it helps to protect marginalized languages.

[Demir Kağan]

EU is trying to have a common language, for 2 years, they are facing problems about the union.

Shambles, how Irish people see IRA? What they think about them?

[Shambles]

things should be that way in civic countries. everybody's native language should be protected, not only the "powerful" ones. this started in Europe after they launched "European Charter on languages". it is a good thing, overall. it helps to protect marginalized languages.

That really depends... From a linguistic or cultural perspective you are 100 per cent right, however I do not see any economic rationale behind that, since the language itself is far from being popular even in Ireland... Therefore, I do doubt that someone would read those documents in Irish... So what's the point in translating everything if you could preserve your language within your country using different methods?

[Frida]

That really depends... From a linguistic or cultural perspective you are 100 per cent right, however I do not see any economic rationale behind that, since the language itself is far from being popular even in Ireland... Therefore, I do doubt that someone would read those documents in Irish... So what's the point in translating everything if you could preserve your language within your country using different methods?

yeah, i understand what you mean. sometimes language status is more about the people's attitude to their language. they might not use it in the parliament, but the idea that it is actually an official language will help to keep it alive, and maybe 20 years from now it might even get revitalized. i mean, look at Hebrew, they could revitalize it, and from scripture language it turned to a spoken language just in several decades.

language parallels identity and if Irish people will want to keep their identity apart from English identity, they need to keep their language, even just on the paper -- but they'll still keep their language as a symbol of Irishness. (in any form, just a single song, or little poem, doesn't matter, most important it goes from one generation to another).

[melo]

things should be that way in civic countries. everybody's native language should be protected, not only the "powerful" ones. this started in Europe after they launched "European Charter on languages". it is a good thing, overall. it helps to protect marginalized languages.

Frida sounds more like a linguist than an economist. Anything to keep alive a language that nobody cares about now. :lol:

[Frida]

Frida sounds more like a linguist than an economist. Anything to keep alive a language that nobody cares about now. :lol:

that is true. economic part of it bothers me the least. just thinking about encroachment of powerful languages is kind of scary. imagine there wont be any other languages but english or chinese. that is so boring, and sad.

but i understand, that people go with the most cost effective programs/policies. and it is usually a simple assimilation in culture and language. or sometimes even more cost effective one - a genocide. :?

[melo]

that is true. economic part of it bothers me the least. just thinking about encroachment of powerful languages is kind of scary. imagine there wont be any other languages but english or chinese. that is so boring, and sad.

but i understand, that people go with the most cost effective programs/policies. and it is usually a simple assimilation in culture and language. or sometimes even more cost effective one - a genocide. :?

I was just being sarcastic. :D I agree with you about the importance of language in culture. I am the last one who would promote english or wants to see english as the only language left in the world. :rolleyes:

[Shambles]

yeah, i understand what you mean. sometimes language status is more about the people's attitude to their language. they might not use it in the parliament, but the idea that it is actually an official language will help to keep it alive, and maybe 20 years from now it might even get revitalized. i mean, look at Hebrew, they could revitalize it, and from scripture language it turned to a spoken language just in several decades.

language parallels identity and if Irish people will want to keep their identity apart from English identity, they need to keep their language, even just on the paper -- but they'll still keep their language as a symbol of Irishness. (in any form, just a single song, or little poem, doesn't matter, most important it goes from one generation to another).

I agree with the points you make... However, spending so much money on translations doesnt make much sense to me... I think it's more than enough what they do within Ireland to keep the language alive... For instance, they have loads of incentives for people who want to study in Irish but even Irish people agree that it was unnecessary to include the Irish language in the the list of the official languages of the EU...

[Frida]

ok, enough about language, i guess. :) tell us about that whole "Irish guilt" thing. do they try to make themselves feel bad after they enjoy something (good food, laughter, etc?). i have heard about it, but i do not know much.

[insider]

I have just came back from a weekly (business)trip to Dublin. Great city to live, and friendly people. Although found food more expensive compared to London (at least at the financial district). At some stage, would happily second for 2-3months. Guinness seems their national pride, damn.
What else are they proud of Shambles?

[Пушкарева]

I knew that Ireland existed, and where it was on the map, but never really googled any info on it or looked up for the pictures. However, the "PS: I love you" movie that I've watched, made quite positive impressions about Ireland and its culture. I especially liked its beautiful landscape.

Is the whole country in the "country" style? Do they have downtown centers as well?

[corsair]

I knew that Ireland existed, and where it was on the map, but never really googled any info on it or looked up for the pictures. However, the "PS: I love you" movie that I've watched, made quite positive impressions about Ireland and its culture. I especially liked its beautiful landscape.

Is the whole country in the "country" style? Do they have downtown centers as well?

:-D

Nezabudka :-D

shemblesu prosto obidno za ireland...
malenkaya strana i vse govoryat na lomanom angliyskom...

PS: samiy bolshoy shopping centre nahoditsya v northern ireland kotoraya vhodit v territoriyu THE GREAT BRITAIN :-D

[Frida]

i guess people are really busy in Ireland. :rolleyes: no time to check arbuzistan. :? :)
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ON: Did you already write about Irish cuisine? I am not particularly fan of Irish cuisine. It is fine, but quite "blunt" for my taste. i have been to four different irish clubs (besides two in my city, I have been in one in Chicago and one in Madison) so besides "fried fish with potato", "fried or roasted duck with potato", "roasted beef with potato" i did not see anything else.

so what do you think? do you like their food, or good (and lots of) beer makes up for lack of flavorful, tasty food. kolis' :)

[Frida]

Oh, Swedish girls: very cute outside and corrupted inside...:?

IKEA furniture ga o'hshar ekanda... :lool:


:lol::lol: this just killed me, i am still laughing. :lool: this should go to forum.uz shedevri.

[odish]

bu irishlar bilan scottishlarni gaplashish aksentlari bir biriga o'xshab ketadi ,
"milk" ni , yomon zo'r etadi lekin ular, eshitib qotib qolibman...

[corsair]

mlk, blue-dy mlk... :-D

[odish]

:-D

Nezabudka :-D

shemblesu prosto obidno za ireland...
malenkaya strana i vse govoryat na lomanom angliyskom...

PS: samiy bolshoy shopping centre nahoditsya v northern ireland kotoraya vhodit v territoriyu THE GREAT BRITAIN :-D

Samiy bolshoy shopping centre naxoditsya v birmingeme , As far i know
Bull ring shopping centre (in birm city centre) is largest in the uk, and Merry Hill shopping centre (in Dudley) is 2nd it is also near Birm, strange i haven.t heard yet the biggest one in N Ireland...

[odish]

mlk, blue-dy mlk... :-D

yea mlq is correct i think ...:lol: